Celebration Florida: Disney's Not So Perfect Town

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When Celebration saw its first residents move into town during the summer of 1996, everything seemed great. The town center was beautiful, the houses looked idyllic, the streets cozy and inviting. It was figuratively a Main Street USA that you could actually live in. However it wouldn’t be long before the flaws and troubles of the town began to surface and it would start to receive criticism from the outside. What was meant to be a perfect town was apparently not so perfect.
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Back in its initial stages, Disney opted to use contractors to build the homes of Celebration rather than building the houses themselves. It would hurt their bottom line since they had to pay the third party companies to do the building, but the benefit was that they wouldn’t have to manage the logistics of constructing thousands of homes over the decade or so they expected it would take to complete the town. So they reached out to a number of different companies who specialized in home construction and put them to work as fast as they could, and while that speedy construction would prove helpful in the growth of Celebration, it would ultimately hurt the homes themselves.
Problems with the houses began to spring up, and they ranged from small issues like outlets not working to major ones like leaking roofs and moldy walls. Many residents found themselves requesting repair after repair. Some of the contractors would later argue that a large factor in the sub-par construction was the time crunch they were under and the sheer number of homes they had to complete. On top of that, the quick turnaround between planning and building meant that many of the out-of-state companies had no time to foster working relationships with good local subcontractors who would provide quality building supplies and additional labor. They also claimed that having to stick to Disney’s strict style guidelines ultimately slowed them down and increased costs. Lastly, Celebration came about at a time where there was a housing boom in central Florida, which led to a shortage in skilled workers who really knew what they were doing.
Some outlets, like the Tampa Tribune, also made the case that perception played a big role in how bad the situation looked. Many of these homeowners were die-hard Disney fans, and they bought into the idea of a house in Disney’s town on Disney’s property with the idea that Disney would be the ones involved and taking care of everything. Yet the reality of the situation was that once that contract was signed, it was pretty much out Disney’s hands.
Sources
📰The Orlando Sentinel
"Celebration Draws Crowd for Drawing" (Nov 27 1995)
"Disney cash puts Celebration School on Track" (Dec 15 1995)
"Celebration focuses on future without Disney magic, rules" (Dec 26 2003)
"Disney shares its vision for city, dazzles officials" (Jan 22 1993)
"As Celebration nears completion, Disney puts downtown up for sale" (Jun 23 2003)
"SunTrust to test cashless smart card at Disney's Celebration" (Sep 22 1997)
"Disney officials say homes may start in $125,000 range" (Jan 16 1994)
"Home buyers are eager to join Disney's town" (Jan 16 1994)
"Father calls pond a danger" (Nov 22 1998)
"Arvida to run Celebration center" (Feb 27 2003)
"In Celebration, some are losing faith in Disney" (Jun 20 2002)
"Disney plans a Celebration of life, work, play in Osceola" (Apr 30 1991)
"1st robber strikes at Disney's Celebration" (Aug 12 1998)
📰The Florida Today Sun
"First phase nearly sold out" (Aug 10 1997)
📰The South Florida Sun
"House Mouse" (Oct 21 1995)
📰Tampa Bay Times
"Another line forms at Disney for a lottery for houses" (Oct 6 1995)
📰The Tampa Tribune
"Some parents find little to cheer in Disney's Celebration school" (Jun 8 1997)
"Reality check on Disney dream homes" (Jul 1 1999)
📔Celebration, U.S.A.: Living in Disney's Brave New Town by Douglas Frantz and Catherine Collins

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@Skillseboy1 5 жыл бұрын

I've been at Celebration and although everything looked nice, it felt like I was inside the Truman Show.

@talen1406 5 жыл бұрын

That’s Seaside, also in Florida.

@bee4907 5 жыл бұрын

That's what it looks like 😂

@Alphalifestylecommunity 5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@TerryB751 5 жыл бұрын

I've always had the impression that every blade of grass had to follow Disney's standards or the Mickey police would be knocking on your door.

@xenianino6851 5 жыл бұрын

But you have to fallow RULES

@chambergambit 5 жыл бұрын

I got lost driving across Florida once and ended up in Celebration. It was so disturbing. I was like, "Wait, how did I get to Connecticut?"

@donut5818 5 жыл бұрын

I live in CT & it indeed looks like my town.

@Frost517 5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@emmaleebuzzard1023 5 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment. 🤣🤣

@AmericanGirl0410 5 жыл бұрын

Haha I live in CT and my parents originally were going to purchase a house in Celebration for my family to grow up in because Disney is such a big part of our lives

@malloryscherff2299 5 жыл бұрын

as someone who lives in ct, i can attest to this. celebration looks like all the wealthier coast towns here.

@Bitchtheman 5 жыл бұрын

So it's a town that's pretending it's still the 50's

@ElementofKindness 5 жыл бұрын

For the betterment of the world, maybe more should?

@jaymeeleighjx1x 5 жыл бұрын

Id love to live in the 50s

@benconnor3206 5 жыл бұрын

Bitchtheman that is a great way to put it! But not anymore really, my mother works for Disney at a building there and growing up it was always wild traveling in there, but now it’s quite normalized

@NIN10DOXD 5 жыл бұрын

@@ElementofKindness That would be terrible for everyone who isn't a straight white Christian man.

@Farrell0208 5 жыл бұрын

What your reffering to is what's portrayed in typical TV shows as how the 50s we're. The 50s we're nothing like "leave it to beaver" portrays.

@GwenWittig 5 жыл бұрын

A friend and I drove around Celebration late one night just for kicks..it was like stepping into the twilight zone..no animals neither wild nor domestic..bird song piped in through hidden loud speakers..it was bizarre..I'm a Native Floridian, and this was strange and so artificial..no thanks

@GwenWittig 5 жыл бұрын

@@oldisnew3967 oh hey God..I didn't know you liked to watch KZfaq..I would have thought it would be rather tedious for you since you know all see all are all...and all...can't wait to celebrate Jesus's birthday Merry Merry God!

@ImmolationBloom 5 жыл бұрын

Celebration has nature walks that span several in an throughout its perimeter; its had a bear or two, wild boar, bald eagles, owls, soft-shell turtles, foxes, otters, deer of course, gators (goes without saying), rabbits, bobcats - green anole lizards but also the violet looking salamanders that are really rare. The fishing is fun there too. I think at a glance I understand where you’re coming from if you’re just driving through, but if you went for a walk on those trails which connect you to the various villages (ex: Downtown to Artisan Park & vice versa) you would see more different animal species than you could count with your fingers and toes. There’s also that giant grasshopper that’s seasonal through the Summer & Spring months which is pretty peculiar - it is strange when a squirrel runs toward you though I’ll give you that lolol

@Natalie-lw2cn 5 жыл бұрын

U expect birds to be singing at night? Lol that happens in the morning

@GwenWittig 5 жыл бұрын

@@Natalie-lw2cn I expected to hear the usual night noises..and I heard bird song..and I wasn't there in the morning as you astutely pointed out..look I'm not saying Celebration now sucks..this was about 20 years ago..it was all brand new, well what was there..me and my friend found it odd that we did hear birds singing..we would hear it out of the trees the very young trees, with nothing flying around or on power wires..it was coming in loops since you could hear it driving from spot to spot, the same bird song, sounding exactly like it did a tree or too back..and I am a native Floridian who has spent a lot of time outside in this fair state. The lack of normal nocturnal sounds was actually deafening. There were not cats lurking, no dogs barking and very little movement coming from the houses that were there. And btw that is standard Disney S.O.P. They use both smells and audio repetitions throughout the parks, so piping in some birdsong at 11 pm is not a big deal to them.

@Natalie-lw2cn 5 жыл бұрын

@@GwenWittig oh I live in Florida as well and I remember when I went there (which was pretty recently like I don't remember when I went there but it was this year)it seemed cute but at the same time idk everything is too close to each other plus it's not even affordable I never noticed that speaker thing there since I went there in the morning but I have seen those speakers in their hotels before its just odd to put fake bird noises lol real ones are better

@lukewatto8223 4 жыл бұрын

I'm from Ireland and Celebration was the first town I visited in the US. It was absolutely bizarre, I initially wondered if all American towns felt so surreal and artificial. I quickly learned that Celebration is a strange anomaly.

@daininsurance 4 жыл бұрын

Lol that had to be mind boggling

@user-ut2dl4yo5n 5 ай бұрын

I'm from Ireland as well. Whoops wrong comment. Haha. Thumbs up my man.

@stylecr8r 5 жыл бұрын

"People working in the town shops that couldn't afford to live there..." Florida in a nutshell.

@GuadalupeGuacamole 5 жыл бұрын

style creator same for living in New York City, Los Angeles or a my asshole big city amiright?!? :)

@ArturoVilchez92 5 жыл бұрын

Any part of the states

@thatrandomchannel8589 5 жыл бұрын

American workers in general really.

@adamflake3276 5 жыл бұрын

You're joking right? Florida's cost of living is so cheap lmao

@adamflake3276 5 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Boyce people working at Disney make more than 99% of other companies in similar occupations.

@TheBisonBunch 5 жыл бұрын

I was the 7th resident that moved there in 1996 and lived there for 6 years. It was an exciting time then and had that small town feel for the first couple of years. After a recent visit, though, it just seemed very overcrowded and a tourist destination. I’m glad I lived there in the early years....great memories for sure.

@StrangerHappened 4 жыл бұрын

You had to move eventually. Bad roofs caught you up or just because of job/family?

@arbonneladyTN 4 ай бұрын

Why the move out? Very curious as I have heard about crime that also came there, very sad.

@Larry 5 жыл бұрын

Looks like the town in The Truman Show!

@danielmalone1689 5 жыл бұрын

Cricket noises*

@adanactnomew7085 2 жыл бұрын

Which is also a new urbanist town built in the postmodern style in Florida.

@stirgy4312 2 жыл бұрын

or Hot Fuzz.

@eyannaanais 2 жыл бұрын

I have said the same thing

@zerogeass21 5 жыл бұрын

Its kinda weird how Celebration and Kissimmee are right next to each other yet so so different.

@supremeleaderharryballs8104 5 жыл бұрын

Celebration is in kissimme

@victorm2129 5 жыл бұрын

@jakerrr celebration is in Kissimmee technically. For example if you live in celebration you can put Kissimmee,FL in your address .

@ShidaiTaino 4 жыл бұрын

Lord Harry Balls celebration is not an official town

@vulpin7150 4 жыл бұрын

I live in Kissimmee and sometimes visit Celebration, it's a pretty cool. I have a friend who lives there and he says it's a pretty great place.

@wav177 4 жыл бұрын

Im from Kissimmee... Celebration is a good safe place to pull over and count the bullet holes in your car you got while driving around in Central Florida..

@toribrynna 5 жыл бұрын

As a kid who grew up in Celebration since the age of 2, I can say this is the best video I’ve seen on the town. Thank you for being honest and not sensationalizing the downsides. And as for the comment about children growing up there getting hit in the face by reality, I can say that is partly true. Thankfully, I spent a good amount of time out of the town though. There really is nowhere else like it.

@spicewave8244 5 жыл бұрын

I’m a Floridian. I prefer old, beach cottages over these artificial weird “perfection” homes. In a theme park-

@somethingwithbungalows 5 жыл бұрын

Spiceyspoon :3 not Floridian but I agree.

@jackieskint4177 4 жыл бұрын

I grew up in Davenport, right next to celebration, and actually I always wanted to live there, I thought it was perfect, I would love visiting it, but idk I feel like I’m the only one..

@fuxan 4 жыл бұрын

Can I get a "hell yeh" here?! Former Floridian and you cant pay me to live in this corporate pile of forced dreams. Give me a shanty with the bare essentials in a modest 1 story made ood school with care, craftmanship and uniqueness.

@goatcatofchaos 4 жыл бұрын

@@fuxan HECK YAH

@goatcatofchaos 4 жыл бұрын

I laughed at "perfection"

@Cydonia2020 5 жыл бұрын

I remember the old Benny Hill joke when he described making a movie: the scenery was beautiful, the only problem was that people kept getting in front of it. If you want a perfect town, don’t let people move into it.

@TheChoochooboy99 5 жыл бұрын

There is a book published about 20 years ago entitled Celebration USA. It’s a first resident point of view that pretty much tells this exact story. I have read it many times and it is a good read. I would recommend it very much.

@likira111 4 жыл бұрын

What I really wanna know is do convenience stores in towns owned by Disney still sell condoms?

@zach8569 4 жыл бұрын

This is beyond science

@uraniumsoup1 4 жыл бұрын

oh shit- probably not.

@mrmaniac3 4 жыл бұрын

Of course not, remember, Disney's entire goal is more kids to watch more vids.

@CountryFriedCG 4 жыл бұрын

They sell condoms in on-property gift shops so I would assume the answer is yes.

@evandrocarlociaccia9877 4 жыл бұрын

@LA-li4yw 5 жыл бұрын

The people in celebration work outside of celebration to afford to live there and the people that work in celebration have to live outside of there..

@alishaohara6986 5 жыл бұрын

I used to live and work in Celebration and I know many people that still do. It is beautiful. Most business owners in Celebration, live there as well as hospital staff and college students... they do have to roommate though. Lol

@Imperial0666 4 жыл бұрын

It's more likely Lockheed than Disney employees living there.

@TahtahmesDiary 3 жыл бұрын

There’s lots of cities like that here in CA. SF and Santa Cruz come to mind. Some people take the train for an hour just to work at Safeway in San Carlos. The wealthy could care less if there’s anywhere for these people to live locally.

@lw9924 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like the Bluth Company built those homes..

@TheRubinre 4 жыл бұрын

I think that's why the school there failed. They needed one where children were not SEEN or HEARD.

@KMcNally117 4 жыл бұрын

Solid like a rock!

@luisguzman3657 4 жыл бұрын

Oh sure blame the guy in the $10,000 Mickey Mouse suit

@boltinabottle6307 3 жыл бұрын

Sweetwater is really terrible in that area as well.

@Champigne 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like just about every suburban housing development.

@desp8161 5 жыл бұрын

It's actually got a nice town centre instead of a strip mall

@LucasFernandez-fk8se 4 жыл бұрын

de sp the town center isn’t my favorite, thats the place I woulda changed to be a strip mall

@sailorqueen2013 5 жыл бұрын

You can’t make a perfect town because humans are flawed

@vincevegacustoms754 5 жыл бұрын

If everyone would have their place in every communities..there would be no robbing or even crimes. Humans are flawed because of money

@connorscanlan1736 5 жыл бұрын

r/iam14andthisisdeep

@christianfaux736 5 жыл бұрын

@@vincevegacustoms754 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man... good one! Oh wait, you were serious? You know people still robbed people and committed crimes before money existed right? Like, crimes of passion are still a thing?

@capeewee 5 жыл бұрын

Vince Vega Customs Not Money. Just Material Wealth in General.

@barackobama4100 5 жыл бұрын

Vince Vega Customs hey you do know uhh that society is built around money like how would that even work currency is need because stores wouldn’t exist things would just be taken and probably a lot more problems money is needed for a society and I think someone as deep as you can realise we live in a society

@purselmer5931 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, who would have thunk that only wealthier people could live in an expensive town?

@joshusdog7677 5 жыл бұрын

I used to live in Celebration and I loved every moment of it. The scenery was idyllic, i felt safe going out for a walk alone even at midnight everyone you met was nice. Not that it didn't have its problems. Everything mentioned about the homes here is correct and the majority of the people that lived in Celebration did have a higher median income than the rest of the country and yes the majority of the people that worked inside of Celebration could not even afford to live there. I myself worked in Orlando because that was the only place i could find a job that payed me enough to live in Celebration, but the town was not a disaster. If you could afford to live there its like living the dream. I still go there on occasion to catch a movie or go to a bar because i know i probably won't have to deal with rowdy patrons or high crime.

@craigcode7103 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like most of Canada except everybody's broke.

@takoyarobinson5708 5 жыл бұрын

Sick Game Squad Or white people strung out on meth

@fakename287 5 жыл бұрын

@gilbert martinez what the fuck does that have anything to do with this

@119Agent 5 жыл бұрын

It is a great place to live. None of these things mentioned here outweigh the positives of the community.

@J.D.Vision 5 жыл бұрын

I rented a top garage apartment there for 5 years... It was awesome.

@srabchun 5 жыл бұрын

When celebration was newer, I remember that there were income restrictions you had to qualify for to live there. And when I visited it, it creeped me out. Because you got a sense of it being a fake, artificial and unrealistic world. It was like being on the set of Leave it to Beaver. That was in the early 2000’s, so things may have changed. But that was my impression of the place.

@vistaramicphotography9865 4 жыл бұрын

Very entertaining! As someone who's lived in Celebration since day 1, I had no idea people had such strong feelings about a place they don't live in.

@spider-rick 9 ай бұрын

Yeah they’re all delusional it ain’t that bad 😂

@dog2man1994 4 жыл бұрын

"there were people working in the shops here that couldn't even afford to live there" sounds like the San Francisco Bay area

@trevor7520 4 жыл бұрын

San diego too!!

@anaz4350 4 жыл бұрын

That’s exact,y what I was thinking

@kathyyoung1774 4 жыл бұрын

Or ANY upscale community. Laborers can’t afford to live in every community they help build.

@TahtahmesDiary 3 жыл бұрын

I just commented that on someone else’s comment: There’s lots of cities like that here in CA. SF and Santa Cruz come to mind. Some people take the train for an hour just to work at Safeway in San Carlos. The wealthy could care less if there’s anywhere for these people to live locally.

@TahtahmesDiary 3 жыл бұрын

@@kathyyoung1774 Yeah the wealthy expect us to commute hours to get minimum wage in their upscale neighborhoods and many have no choice but to do this to survive.

@amandajoyce7608 4 жыл бұрын

Kinda sounds like they’re trying to build “Pleasantville.”

@Habri 4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing too. Now I got to watch that movie again.

@kiwikiwi2483 3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh I remember Lorax. Love that movie

@tobyfinney768 5 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of a horror movie. Your car falls into a ditch and you look for help. Turns out you’re in a perfect little town, but there’s a dark secret that everyone is forced to keep.

@wendybusby9415 4 жыл бұрын

Do you think Walt Disney had any idea that he was starting a cult? Did he do it on purpose or was it just a development that his followers believed?

@troyevitt2437 4 жыл бұрын

Why do I see the bodies of self-poisoned disciples along the side of the road with "Small, Small World" playing on a maddeningly endless loop?

@NotaPizzaGRL 4 жыл бұрын

Walt Disney was obsessed with controlling the lives of those who worked for him so Celebration would be his ideal society. No filith, no poors, no foreigners, and everyone's lives built around supporting his company. Kinda like Henry Ford in that regard.

@AMPProf 4 жыл бұрын

Cult? Noooooo! Now now nothing's wrong with being a crazy-nutty Micky mouse fan dressed as Cinderella!

@joeyvindictive3552 4 жыл бұрын

@@NotaPizzaGRL just like henry Ford. Did you ever read up on fordlandia? That's some crazy scary stuff!

@user-nf9xc7ww7m 4 жыл бұрын

Cult leaders didnt have prime time channels. 😋

@jeremyud 5 жыл бұрын

It'll be really interesting to see what the town looks like in another 25 years. By that point, the original homes are either going to be demolished and rebuilt, or completely refurbished.

@jljljjljlj7529 3 жыл бұрын

It's still here.

@TheDisney1901 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone back here after Disney just announced Storyliving, or is it just me?

@marisela7825 2 жыл бұрын

That's how I got here! Never heard of anything like this! Did you come from the Jason video (I think that's his name)

@marisela7825 2 жыл бұрын

Yea the Jason A Chan. I love his videos.

@KadenRenz 5 жыл бұрын

My mom and her family lived in celebration, they were actually part of the initial wave. So after the video I asked my mom about the school there and she laughed and said "it was such a joke"

@WinstonPoptart 5 жыл бұрын

I've been to Celebration school

@craigcode7103 5 жыл бұрын

@@WinstonPoptart details please!

@jaymeeleighjx1x 5 жыл бұрын

Clearly wasnt that bad if she managed to get an education and a job and afford you

@AmericanGirlGymnasts 5 жыл бұрын

Jaymee McAliece her mom might have left before she went to school

@WinstonPoptart 5 жыл бұрын

@@craigcode7103 What details would you like to know about the school? It is very close from Celebration. Like a good 20 minute walking distance.

@beefyking775 4 жыл бұрын

I own a mold remediation company in orlando and have been called to celebration so many times for mold and water damage.

@jljljjljlj7529 3 жыл бұрын

That is everywhere in Florida. It downpours for 30mins everyday here. What do you expect?

@MerryPippins. 4 жыл бұрын

I worked at the hospital in Celebration. They were incredibly focused on creating a facade. They didn’t allow overhead announcements unless there was a code blue. They had strict dress codes. They made the hospital look like a hotel that reflected Epcot, where different areas of the hospital represented different countries around the world.

@spider-rick 9 ай бұрын

Wow they want you to wear a uniform, what monsters 🤡

@mattmajors 5 жыл бұрын

Now it time for one on Golden Oak

@SteveIsSleeve 5 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@hirolives 5 жыл бұрын

I was about to say the same thing.

@supernanners3217 5 жыл бұрын

Any house there is my dream house

@cartonet8186 5 жыл бұрын

It's not even finished. Also, it's a completely different kind of community. Celebration is more like a regular upper-Middle Class neighborhood with properties starting at $200,000 or something, whereas Golden Oak is just a multimillionaire gated subdivision. I still think Orlando in general is not very "classy." It just doesn't have enough wealthy like most other parts of the country. There's not enough restaurants, clubs, high-end stores to cater to the wealthy the way other major cities could.

@kraftykay4276 5 жыл бұрын

Karlton est do you live in orlando? Celebration has millions of dollar homes. High end stores are millenia mall and outlet mall. Lots of high end shops.

@MyriadGinger 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I was trying so hard to find this through google searches last year and came up with NOTHING! This is what I remember from childhood - that Celebration was riddled with construction problems and unhappy residents! I felt like history was being wiped out! Thank you for compiling this video!

@VictorianRabbit3456 5 жыл бұрын

Long Schnozzed Tribesman why are you people so up your own ass about this place? Do you ever leave and think about other people and communities?

@marisa7482 5 жыл бұрын

The thing this, Celebration inspired other neighborhoods in Central Florida. I live in Avalon park, which is one of them. I should also mention that Celebration Hospital is amazing. It looks like a hotel and the rooms are beautiful. It’s great being able to watch the Disney fireworks after giving birth.

@possiblyagriffincosplay2279 4 жыл бұрын

I went there a few years ago with my brother. He said he was scared to sneeze. Creepy and I can't get it into my head that the shops are real, the hospital is real etc. Just all seems like a toy town

@shop99er 5 жыл бұрын

I visited Celebration several years ago, and all I could think was I was in the Stepford Town.

@e-mananimates2274 5 жыл бұрын

Even if Celebration wasn't the ideal model town, I still think there are plenty of lesson you can learn from it to further improve existing communities.

@emilewillaerts6368 5 жыл бұрын

E-ManAnimates it’s still beautiful, the park is pretty cool too there’s also Christmas in celebration that gets pretty fun

@e-mananimates2274 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, a part of me wants to live there.

@ernestinemaloy6752 5 жыл бұрын

E-ManAnimates I'd Move there...

@gissneric 5 жыл бұрын

I also go there to relax and eat. Such a peaceful neighborhood with lots of places to stroll.

@colormedubious4747 5 жыл бұрын

Those lessons have been compiled by the Congress for the New Urbanism. Celebration followed most of the same guidelines.

@DuchessRococoPuff 5 жыл бұрын

I think these past two videos have been some of your best, Rob! The production values are beautiful, and I love the use of the old Disney cartoons with certain segments!

@MidwaytoMainStreet 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That means a lot to me! I was a little worried about deciding to make them right before a trip, but I'm happy with them!

@boredmillionaire9914 5 жыл бұрын

lmao’d at the part where the painters were moving their butts 😅

@mattwolf7698 5 жыл бұрын

This town slightly creeps me out, it reminds me of The Truman Show.

@ainemairead4542 5 жыл бұрын

Celebration remiands me of ''Stepford''

@Arvak777 5 жыл бұрын

Well the town In The Truman Show is in Florida. :o

@ImmolationBloom 5 жыл бұрын

Mostly it’s because we’re used to Metropolitan life that involves a different level of crime lol

@soyboylatte 5 жыл бұрын

@jakerrr the movie was filmed in Seaside, Florida.

@joeurquiola3123 4 жыл бұрын

jakerrr wrong in Florida

@tylers6058 5 жыл бұрын

I lived here and it’s really awesome, all of these issues are literally from when the town was first started initially, and now it’s really one of the best schools in the state

@rexmonarch2 4 жыл бұрын

When I was in Orange County CA in 2003, the builders called it "90 days from pour to door" -- they would build the houses so fast. And then the shit would hit the fan when folks moved in.

@johncase1353 5 жыл бұрын

My home there caught on fire. When the fire department showed up they were all dressed as Disney characters. The guy in the Mickey costume passed out of heat exhaustion. All in all it was a interesting day.

@couchgamingnews9379 5 жыл бұрын

Lol what the heck

@zuzoscorner 5 жыл бұрын

Dress in very flammable costumes..yup can't see that backfiring horribly

@MichaelAivaliotis 5 жыл бұрын

I believe everything I read on the internet

@jaysmith1408 5 жыл бұрын

Strange, if i’m not mistaken, Celebration is covered by Reedy Creek’s emergency services, which although heavily influenced and managed by Disney Corp, is exempt from the Disney World nonsense. Another point is apparently Disney has their own security, and at times qazi police force. Wouldn’t Reedy Creek or the local sheriff be responsible for legitimate police force, not a private company?

@seagrape2881 5 жыл бұрын

@@jaysmith1408 dude the guy is joking.

@Yensid951927 5 жыл бұрын

As much as many fans love and respect Walt's final dream of Epcot being the city that could redefine the future of cities and communities, Celebration shows that (even on a smaller scale) it would have been almost impossible to hold onto the planed happiness of having everything remain perfect for everyone who lived in and around it, despite any progress it could have made.

@raphaelmarquez9650 5 жыл бұрын

I would take that over the reality of dysfunctional families seen from Seth McFarlene's shows.

@yehonatanomer158 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but I'm also pretty sure that many rich (or at least above average socio-economicly) suburbs are already that today... I don't think celebration is actually any different...

@mfitzburger5137 5 жыл бұрын

@@yehonatanomer158 Many suburbs had the same issues, but not as severe an extent as described here (I can't imagine many places in my town that would get away having 80% of its residents be white).

@promontorium 5 жыл бұрын

Unless you never relinquish ownership. A hotel or apartment building can maintain standards and atmosphere its entire length of operation.

@solarmoth4628 5 жыл бұрын

M Fitzburger my town is 77.9% white and that matches most of the surrounding towns in the area.

@prestondial1992 5 жыл бұрын

It’s okay. No school in Osceola country has a capable faculty. Also, you are really heavily emphasizing the teething years. Celebration is stupidly different now and it a great town. My only complaint is that demand to live there is still so high that the housing is wildly overpriced. Sincerely, -Florida Man (oh wait.. no, not that)

@mustdieproductions 4 жыл бұрын

*BREAKING NEWS: Florida Man Detained For Alledged Connection To Real Estate Money Laundering Scheme Ran By Cultists Who Worship Cartoon Mouse.*

@Imperial0666 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure if they could have they would have gotten their own local school district just for Celebration, but Florida doesn't allow that. they have county based school districts. I suspect a lot of people use private schools there as well.

@barbyoung7601 4 жыл бұрын

@@Imperial0666 That is true. As a former teacher at the high school as well as Celebration resident, the high school has a very low percentage of Celebration students. Most are bused in. The teachers are fantastic; it's the system that stinks. My older two kids went to the high school for all four of their years, my youngest began in the first grade at the K-8 (which is small). We chose to move, but not due to the school or town. (Love Merritt Island!) We enjoyed living there and I'm laughing at this thread. It is a unique place, but the people are nice, everyday people. Not snobby. We still have friends there and frequently are there. It is not all "white" people! People are too quick to judge or believe everything they hear.

@officialmichaelcarrasco 4 жыл бұрын

@@mustdieproductions Cartoon thumbnail and fake name. Troll.

@prestondial1992 3 жыл бұрын

@Crystal Method uhhh... as far as I know nobody does that. What you on about mate?

@BonnieCribbs 5 жыл бұрын

I live in Celebration and absolutely love it. ...but Disney selling Town Center to Lexin was a horrible decision. Lexin is a horrible company and has zero quality standards. Their buildings are filthy, in need of major repair and they definitely are not honoring their agreement with Disney. ......but I definitely love living in Celebration. It's so incredible here!

@jjthomas2297 5 жыл бұрын

I was there recently and that is what I noticed the most. I expected something out of "The Truman Show" but in that movie, the town seemed new and maintained. Celebration seems old and neglected

@susanknight5884 5 жыл бұрын

Bonnie Cribbs clarification needs to be addressed. Lexin controls DOWNTOWN, not the rest of the town.

@BonnieCribbs 5 жыл бұрын

Susan, I specified Town Center.

@susanknight5884 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, Bonnie. I should have read it more carefully.

@swtchs. 5 жыл бұрын

I live there two

@spinningninja2 5 жыл бұрын

I grew up in celebration. Lived there from when I was five to when I was eleven. It was a very interesting experience. The town itself is beautiful, and there’s a lot of things for kids to do in the town center. The people however leave a lot to be desired. I can’t remember the details but my parents were always aware of some new drama that everyone was going through. It was always such basic suburbian stuff too, like person x didn’t attend person y’s barbecue. They would just get real nasty with each other over really petty stuff.

@captaintalon4485 3 жыл бұрын

This town gives me Wandavision vibes

@josettearismendi6779 5 жыл бұрын

I love walking around celebration with my kids... there are plenty of parks, boardwalks, and the people are usually friendly. I have friends who own homes there and they joke around that they can never build a pool or put up a fence... Almost like they own the house just not the land....

@MollyOmigosh 5 жыл бұрын

This was fascinating! The whole concept of “Celebration” is so interesting and strange-I sort of can’t believe it exists. Thanks for putting this awesome video together!

@Tom-vy3cb 5 жыл бұрын

Moved here from the U.K. 3 years ago and I love living here. It’s a great place to live

@troyevitt2437 4 жыл бұрын

Well, you know occasionally dump tea in the harbor while dressed as indigenous natives, right?

@neodoesmakeup 5 жыл бұрын

As someone who just recently moved from Celebration, I really appreciated this two part series. My experience with Celebration started in 2005 and technically still continues to today. This town is special because it's close enough to everything, but it's basically secluded. You're right next to the tourist traps and multiple families that need help, but you rarely see it. Celebration is a conundrum to many, but it used to be home.

@AlextheHistorian 5 жыл бұрын

These videos about Celebration were AMAZING. I have been waiting a very long time for someone to delve this deep into the story behind the town. Thanks Rob!

@colonial6452 4 жыл бұрын

We visited several years ago and thought that we had entered Stepford.

@MidwaytoMainStreet 5 жыл бұрын

Obviously there's lots of vocal feedback in regards to the premieres. I appreciate that! I just got the feature today so I'm testing it out with this video, but I currently don't have any plans set in stone for the future beyond that. I like the idea of being able to watch with other subscribers and chat, but I also understand that having a non-live video sit in a sub box for days can be annoying. So in the future if I use it again I'll try to set it up the night before rather than days before.

@Bunjamin27 5 жыл бұрын

I just wish we could toggle premiers on/off.. I had 3 premier videos waiting in my subscription feed recently, so I think they're rolling it out more. It's just like a tease/"gotchya!"/psych! kind of thing when we realize it's not actually a video we can watch. Maybe some people like that, which is fine, but gah! Need to option to toggle off premiers! :)

@saadiqsmith297 5 жыл бұрын

Hey rob plays can you make a Disney history video on golden oaks

@AndrewSkow1 5 жыл бұрын

How about exercising restraint and just using it for special/big productions? There's no reason to use it on every video.

@edvaira6891 5 жыл бұрын

Please don’t use this feature...it’s annoying

@ScrimbloMan 5 жыл бұрын

I live in celebration so the place is actually really nice. The place has nice houses,great community, I go to school there and I go downtown often right after school. This place is quite great. The place also has rich and medium houses to make everyone not feel like their poor and everyone’s rich. Our school is now k-8. Also it is the same as most schools. It is very easy to be active hear. Yes celebration was bad at first but now it’s nice. Looking at the old time and not the new can really ruin our economy. This place isn’t perfect btw it is normal. We also have the town center that is great and a great place to go is upper crust. It is for some rich people and yes I have rich fwiends, but I live moderately. Showing these videos also shows that it hasn’t changed and it’s nice it really doesn’t need to. The only thing that changed is how great it is now and the f***in theater is closed. And to the end part this place is great and I took this entire video + some more to write this so saying the worst place to live is not very kind and while it might help you please be considering what effect it has on us. People on the internet can change people’s opinions so can you please at least change the title to “celebration,a nice place with a bad history” or something like that? If you do thank and if you don’t screw you(the aithiest way of saying bless you but I don’t believe in god).

@rocdocs 2 жыл бұрын

Fabulous use of Mickey cartoon B-Roll. The construction, the school. Aweosme!

@Bordalini 4 жыл бұрын

im 20 now and to see how i lived there in my early child hood i had no idea how different the real world was

@janbaer3241 5 жыл бұрын

The architectural style is very nice. I hope that it all stays well-maintained.

@AstronautOtto 5 жыл бұрын

To me its a success. It is a beautiful, functional town near Disney. Of course it would not be perfect, but it is certainly better than most towns in the U.S

@Nocturne22 3 жыл бұрын

It's falling apart, nobody owns anything because a company owns it, it's insanely expensive for what you get, the schools are garbage but pretends it's not garbage, and the HOA is utterly tyrannical in their policies. No city should take any planning advice from this place, as it seems like a total joke.

@TahtahmesDiary 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nocturne22 8:20 It says Disney was selling the houses. That’s a real thing that some companies own entire neighborhoods but that’s not what’s happening here specifically. People DO own those homes.

@drewk4655 5 жыл бұрын

I lived there for about 11 years. Loved every single bit of it. Mad lots of friends and memories.

@lissettet 5 жыл бұрын

as someone who lives in Orlando and visits celebration frequently I love this video and this channel. keep it up rob, I love all the detail you put in these videos

@MidwaytoMainStreet 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@martinpetersson4350 5 жыл бұрын

So what's Celebration like?

@RariettyC 5 жыл бұрын

Martin Petersson Not OP but I was surprised by how community-oriented it was when I visited. Disney definitely achieved their goal on that front. Like, if you've lived there for a while and hang out in the local pub alone, you're probably going to end up seeing people you know anyway. To be honest, before I visited for the first time, I was expecting that everyone would be uptight and just keep to themselves and only live there because it's Disney, but there seems to be a real sense of comradery between the locals.

@martinpetersson4350 5 жыл бұрын

Nice, seems like a good place to live :)

@darlingdeb7010 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not going to lie, I absolutely love the idea of Celebration. I really want to visit! I wouldn't mind living in this type of a place either.

@vivalanina 5 жыл бұрын

this was really fun! I loved the sense of community and being able to have questions answered, I didn't have to wait too long because I only saw the premier thumbnail in my feed this morning. So the only con would probably be the wait, but it was still as entertaining, if not more than a regular upload!

@lordfly911 5 жыл бұрын

My best friend dad collapsed at Cirque de Solei and was taken to Celebration Hospital. We were there and so went to the Hospital and I was freaked out. I didn't see but a few people and one person I saw literally popped out of one door and into another one. No one was in the hallways. It was too perfect and weird.

@mkuti-childress3625 4 жыл бұрын

It still looks like a great place to me! It’s beautiful, and it looks safe and clean. I’d live there if I had the opportunity!

@robertchristian4473 5 жыл бұрын

If Disney wanted a perfect town they shouldn’t have put it in Kissimmee...🤦‍♂️😂🤣

@johnstanley8324 5 жыл бұрын

If Disney wanted a perfect town they shouldn't have let people move in to it.

@kgal1298 4 жыл бұрын

John Stanley facts they should have just turned it into more theme park.

@wav177 4 жыл бұрын

LMAO!!!

@BeJazziFashion 4 жыл бұрын

disney world is in kissimmee where else they gon put it 😭

@thatonevik2188 5 жыл бұрын

I was actually born there in the Celebration hospital. Lived there up until 2015 but overall, it gave me a lot of good memories and helped me grow as a person later on.

@Welldeservedvacation 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome how close is it to the theme parks? Can you walk there?

@drewamezquita776 5 жыл бұрын

WellDeservedVacation.com no lmao it’s not a walking distance but Disney world is close by I’d say about 10 minutes away

@VictorianRabbit3456 5 жыл бұрын

Did it though? You guys were basically isolated from real people outside the bubble.

@user-fr4qe6lg4p 5 жыл бұрын

I live in celebration! It is really nice with a great school. We do have a lot of people from other places. We have people knocking on are doors sometimes. But it’s actually really nice. Kids walk down town to go eat after school.

@thebunnyfoofoo 5 жыл бұрын

I do not feel it was much like EPCOT. EPCOT was to be only for people who worked at Disney. They were not to own any property, and could not stay after retirement. In exchange of not owning, they would always have the most up-to-date technologies in their homes, be able to use the monorail, have energy produced, food grown, and large international food/shopping areas. The schools, I imagine, would also (like everything else there) only be for residents.

@a_cowwithlegs 5 жыл бұрын

no epcot was for everyone to live in

@P.J.MartyCone 5 жыл бұрын

That's da culprit in your profile pic. I knew I recognized him. He was the lil bastard sweepin up all da field mice.

@tomservo56954 4 жыл бұрын

@@a_cowwithlegs Yes...that was the original concept for Epcot (acronym for Experimental Planned Community Of Tomorrow).Walt was still alive when it was first proposed,, but those who knew better told him as residents would have all those strictures and regulations, and no representational government--only the Disney organization--he would have to pay people to live there.

@user-nf9xc7ww7m 4 жыл бұрын

Still don't understand why disney had an issue with residents voting rather than just landowners. If he could create districts that allowed only landowner voting, why didn't that extend to a housing district too?

@JoshuaNicholas650 5 жыл бұрын

Celebration should have been used for the DCP housing instead of the apartments they live

@xxthadx 5 жыл бұрын

I miss the movie theater no one thought of it. Could always see shows on opening weekend with minimal crowds. Hinch it closed lol

@J.D.Vision 5 жыл бұрын

Same here😯

@evanh.6462 5 жыл бұрын

You were the other 2 that always shared the theater with me?

@OMGWTFLOLSMH 5 жыл бұрын

"Hinch it closed lol" Zero idea what this means.

@xxthadx 5 жыл бұрын

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH hence *

@hectort1473 4 жыл бұрын

I was born in Celebration. It is in fact a cult town. If you walk through the wood path behind the school that connects to downtown you'll see some black balloons hanging from the trees

@cja_824 4 жыл бұрын

I would just like to thank you for providing such great content during these uncertain times

@TH-dc3fg 5 жыл бұрын

I can see why you would think Disney making ”the perfect town” would be a good idea, but look any deeper and you will easily see that perfection in impossible, especially when a huge company is doing it on their own dime

@The_Dirt_Merchant 5 жыл бұрын

I had no clue that Celebration was a part of Disney! Every time I go to Orlando I make a special trip to Celebration to eat at the Boston Seafood Restaurant.

@The_Dirt_Merchant 2 жыл бұрын

@Tiny Princess I didn't know that either. But the way the town is laid out, you can tell Disney definitely had their input on the design. I swear I could picture 60's era cars in there and a community where everyone knows everyone. It almost looks like you are stepping back in time.

@haileyshannon7548 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we all want to live in the leftover sets from Pleasantville. I personally would prefer a Norman Rockwell inspired place or the town from Edward Scissorhands!

@pairoleggs 4 жыл бұрын

my sister works at disney and lives in celebration and i've been several times. it looks like it's straight out of a hallmark movie

@richardcasias7754 5 жыл бұрын

I couldn't live in a state who's flower is mildew. To much humidity no thanks.

@MsDemanuel 4 жыл бұрын

We dont care if you would live here or not lol. Thanks for playing

@eduardocolon6333 5 жыл бұрын

I live in Celebration. I can tell that, at least right now, it’s like any other town.

@troyevitt2437 4 жыл бұрын

You're saying this so they don't have to "use the bees" again, aren't you?

@AMPProf 4 жыл бұрын

What....???? You might want to drive round Florida again! Need some instate vacation time lol!

@MarkCuda 5 жыл бұрын

Guy, you are such a great storyteller! Love the way you navigated this one. Cheers!

@MyWestiesTV 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! Glad I didn’t bye when we had the opportunity back in the 90’s thanks for sharing

@Masterge77 5 жыл бұрын

This town is the closest we'll ever get to EPCOT actually happening, only for it to become like every other American town in the end.

@mitchg7809 4 жыл бұрын

I suppose live in the "single man's" version of this community. An ultra modern, 500 unit high-rise Condominium. Everything is astheticly pleasing if not a bit too uniform. When it's time for the orchid in my elevator vestibule to be replaced another one exactly like it is brought in. The staff is very nice but you can't get away with anything. Cameras track your every move. I can't even go from one residential floor to another without obtaining a six diget elevator code. I even had to attend a new resident orientation after I bought my place. Me & one other new home owner were inundated with rules. Just when I think it's all a little too perfect I walk outside & see a homeless man beating a shopping cart with a baseball bat.

@ffletch5277 5 жыл бұрын

I grew up around Orlando and lived in a nice exclusive part of winter park when they announced celebration. They were able to sell those things for way more than the bank said they were worth so the appraisals often came in low. It was gimmicky and cheesy.

@redgar6467 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see some history and glad you included the Celebration Marathon. I am doing my third half there next year.

@SteveIsSleeve 5 жыл бұрын

I think I would have been disappointed if I was one of those original buyers. Expectations were too high in terms of what it was going to be like. However, if I were to buy now, I think I'd have a better chance of being happy there. My expectations would be that it's a nice community of people who want to live close to the happiest place on earth. Plus, even for some of the most expensive houses up for sale, the real estate is actually more bang for your buck than Toronto (my home), so that would be great too! Ultimately, I think it would depend on whether or not the reality of living near Disney would live up to the ideal of living near Disney.

@NewWaveArch90 5 жыл бұрын

It wasn't groundbreaking even at the time, it was riding a wave of neo-traditional communities begun primarily by the architectural firm Duany Plater-Zyberk. There was also Kentlands in Maryland, and Seaside in Florida (where The Truman Show was filmed).

@KevinBlank 5 жыл бұрын

Seaside and Watercolor Florida definitely have a creepy vibe under the surface.

@ForLoveoftheMouse 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Love the editing and the older footage you toss in

@seanquirk8935 5 жыл бұрын

I like the feature, this is pretty cool. I think your idea of setting it up the night before, or the morning of, is a good idea!

@jrasicmark1 4 жыл бұрын

I always wondered what the apartments looked like on the inside, but since I knew I couldn't afford them, and traffic always looked like a nightmare at the entrance of Celebration, I never took the time to look at the apartments on the inside. I did drive around the town once. I just thought the houses were a little too close together considering how much they cost. Oh, and I heard some horror stories about local Orlando area builders who built homes on the opposite side of Orlando during the boom. I heard of walls of new homes that just soaked up water like sponges when it rained (and it rained a lot in Florida).

@user-nf9xc7ww7m 4 жыл бұрын

Wish the housing would be pedestrian only streets like in disney. Mix some commercial in there too (still no vehicular traffic).

@tonyro66 5 жыл бұрын

A lot of new construction right now is having the same problem. Be careful what companies you buy from

@samsabeeble3431 4 жыл бұрын

I grew up in a town similar to Celebration (and by that I mean it had also been built and designed by Arvida, which had been one of the main contractors Disney sourced stuff from for Celebration); it's funky to see how similar our "town center" shopping areas are.

@pearson94 5 жыл бұрын

My daughter participated in the Disney College Program last fall and I had to take her to a post office while I was there visiting. We ended up in Celebration. I had heard of it and had always wanted to see the town. Such a creepy weird vibe there.

@ugdseegfdwa4552 5 жыл бұрын

Im a teen and I live here, it’s pretty nice and fun to live here.

@troyevitt2437 4 жыл бұрын

Are you being held against your will? Married to an adult? Fed only gruel and bread? Wink once for "Yes!"

@officialmichaelcarrasco 4 жыл бұрын

@@snapnclap Awww...another sad soul who wished they lived there. 😂

@officialmichaelcarrasco 4 жыл бұрын

@@troyevitt2437 Troll

@jjthomas2297 5 жыл бұрын

Was in Celebration recently and I was surprised at how old things looked. Peeling paint, roads that need resurfacing, etc. Not nearly as nice as the Truman Show. It looked like the whole place was in need of major maintenance.

@campydeweysmommy5078 5 жыл бұрын

When I visited celebration in my early 20’s, I wanted to live there so badly. This was late 90’s

@cedricscott6622 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. I didn't know anything about celebration and I've stayed in houses there several times during vacations. Never knew it was so...new nor that it was a disney venture.

@darkbrilliance9815 5 жыл бұрын

There already qas a town built by a company for its workers that was quaint, quiet and for the most part crime free with great school. It's been around for about 100 years and is still going strong!

@pickeljarsforhillary102 5 жыл бұрын

Boulder City?

@jenniesweetcheeks 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like what has happened in Santa Fe New Mexico! All the rich Californians moved in, started causing the price of real estate up. They got into the local government and started passing laws to make sure that all the homes in a certain area had to conform to certain criteria. The people that work in Santa Fe, for the most part, can't afford to live there!

@bandombeviews6035 5 жыл бұрын

Jennie Frank *Cough*Toronto*Cough*

@JokerL1000 5 жыл бұрын

You know how white people do

@TaKevinT 5 жыл бұрын

That's just gross.

@mfitzburger5137 5 жыл бұрын

@@bandombeviews6035 Oh god, yes. I never thought I'd have to explain to anyone why a vacancy tax should exist, but here we are!

@hewhoeatsall 5 жыл бұрын

Dawg people come to California to do that. If ts a rich people problem not a California problem.