i feel the same way

That explains the sudden chill I felt. Brr

vagd g Surprised this video’s still up,honestly

MB ..It was a joke.

MB It was literally just a sarcastic joke dude

on which episode?

Triple F “icarly saves tv”

thanks!

alexshmalex explain more im dumb

BB Chan ohh yeah I think I remember now... wow iCarly was ahead of its time...

For attention

🤑🤑🤑

KZfaq is the best to promote makeup and skincare and other stuff and what does she have?

She’s not really on keeping up and isn’t a executive producer she had life of Kylie which flopped and she introduced by telling her viewers “this is a television, it’s like a big phone”. I think she thinks of herself as more of a social star because her time on keeping up has been limited since she was 18.

Even further promotion tbh

Can Shane dawson expose KZfaq next :)

I was just thinking that too! It’s a genius idea. We’re literally seeing things from the camera mans point of view and you fell somehow connected to them as well because they are also just a person watching and reacting to what’s going on. It’s also makes it seem less like a production because instead of two people being filmed by an anonymous camera man like traditional media where even in reality shows the filming part is ignored, they act like the cameras aren’t there, but by acknowledging the camera man and having them contributing to the content itself it becomes more like 3 people filming themselves. I think it was a recent Saturday night live episode where the cast broke character and all started laughing and they cut to a camera man who was also laughing which you never see on television and then they cut to his camera view and it was shaking because of his laughing. I don’t know why but I just loved it! Probably for the same reason we love Andrew it makes it feel more real.

Yup KZfaqrs that do that come off as more authentic. Thomas Sanders does the same thing

I freaking love Andrew and his goofy laugh from behind the camera

Shane Dawson is a celebrity. Don't be blinded by his attempt at being relatable, he is the same as them now.

for real i feel the same way, I find myself deleting app after app bc it gets bought by google or some other big corp. and then gets infiltrated by ads, celebrity promotions, unwanted updates etc. similar reasons as to why i cancelled my cable. like can we just have one aspect of our lives thats not riddled with capitalism and inauthenticity pLS

Advertising and celebrity endorsements irritate me to no end. I don't like knowing that I'm being manipulated to think a certain way. My husband doesn't understand why I insist on muting all ads or leaving the room when they come on, but I am just trying to do what I can not to become a consumerist zombie.

lol just ignore it. It’s not hard. They have to make money, too. You aren’t that important. Use ads as a bathroom breaK, or pet your dog. Ads are 30 seconds. Do you just expect everything in the world to not also need money and only cordinate with what you want?

@@breannedixon9712 thats exactly what we expect And also, ads arent only 30s anymore, now i get 2 ads every 2 or 3 minutes of content and some of them are 1 minute and unskippable Ads should stay as banners under the video or sponsoring directly the youtubers themselves, i dont want to be stalked by google

Afonso B that’s too bad. They also have to make money. That’s not how ads work. You’re lucky we don’t just have tv anymore, where there’s 3 minute ads Every few minutes. No matter what, people have to make money. It’s probably going to inconvenience you a bit. Life is not going to worship every thing you do

Pretty fast

s o c i e t y

Oh hey, you're even here. It's an awesome channel

I said the same thing out loud listening to this

Real quick

This has already somewhat happened. I remember a few years back management corporations were offering to "sign" certain channels to their "label" of sorts. Basically the result was they would offer to advertise the channel, increase views and subscribers, etc. but take a percentage of the ad revenue and all future videos would be their property as opposed to the creator actually creating them. There might be a different title for what I'm trying to describe, but I remember watching KZfaqrs in the beauty community talk about it. P.s. I love your channel/content Kristen.

As long as Kristen, shelby and tiff are on the case, I will be good.

There's something very close to if not exactly this happening in China! Livestreaming is a huge industry over there and lots of streamers work with agencies, companies, and trainers and their contracts can function a lot like signing on to be apart of a Kpop group. I watched a couple mini-docs on it at some point! I wish I could remember what they are but I know a quick search on google brings up some articles on the entire thing.

That Poppy teas

dummy why comparing to kpop when the closest is the mainstream media, which is like that already lol

Most will. Then the celebs will be stuck entertaining eachother as people get back to what really matters- real life.

This is so true. I abandoned the trending page long ago because it looks like a TV network most of the time. Let my home page or sub page look like that even once, KZfaq will never see me again.

I see a recommend video of CNN or some other channel, I click on "do not recomend this channel". Even got to the extreme that on the middle of my subscriptions have those "live news" channels (Specially with trump propaganda)

yes, this is absolutely why.

Or for myself, it is the fact it is overproducted on TV

Same, i haven't had cable tv in 8 years. And big corporate media's attempt to colonize and take over youtube just makes me resent them even more, making me actively avoid any of their content.

Yeah, I'm canelling my cable package because I could replace it with a bunch of other stuff and get better content for less money

Who even has cable anymore? I haven't had cable in years and I don't miss it. KZfaq, prime and netflix are plenty to keep me entertained haha

literally me, always after watching tiffanys videos

I feel that some ytbers are my friends, it's crazy

Sometimes when I'm lonely I'll play my fav KZfaqrs vids on a loop and it feels like I'm hanging with friends!

Chances are you know them better than you know some people you hang out with. You know how their houses look, their political views, their religious views, their families sometimes, their life story, drama about them etc. I can't say this about most people i know in real life. Hell, I think I only know like 3-5 irl people that deep.

🤣🤣🤣

It's not new though - remember the boy band craze in the 90s? Or K-pop now? All manufactured images and scripted "characters", none of this shit is real or authentic.

germankiwigal I feel the same! I like kpop but it feels so shallow. Most of the songs are of the same type and the little vlogs they do seem so manufactured. I can’t listen to too much of it without feeling vapid and tired.

Can't wait for the manufactured love. Wait...relationship goals exist.

Lindsay Ellis did a great video essay on Manufactured Authenticity if you haven’t already seen it.

THE MOST.

I want to be an actress and a writer when I grow up, but I always thought it would be cool to do a commentary channel, not necessarily to be famous but just because I’m passionate about things happening on the internet, movies, anthropology and such and I’d like to express it in a productive way. Though I do agree that a lot of kids want to be famous for basically nothing, I think there are some exceptions.

@@dionysusfilms165 yup my sibling is trying to be a KZfaqr by doing the "Ace Family" type vlogs. I told her... dont do youtube just because you want money... her channel didnt succeed.

Its not scary...honestly they are kids when i was a kid i wanted to be Doreamon (anime character) because i used to love that show and watched it like everyday...the thing is if a kid really likes a thing they will want to do that and its normal.

Not me tho lmao

@@insaan2370 exactly when I was younger I wanted to be a barbie

This is a naive statement though. Naive because you don't realize the scale involved. Video upload services take a lot of bandwidth so the barrier to entry isn't obtainable by any regular company unless they are already a large multinational or invent truly game changing mechanisms to manage this (but content delivery platforms are already mature). And then you have to be able to police your own content unless you want a lot of copyright issues or other legal action taken against you, both of which will probably hurt your financial prospects in running the site in then long run. And then you have the fact that the more popular the state grows the more it attracts anybody and everybody and also is more bandwidth intense. The barrier to entry to compete with KZfaq is the thing that is preventing others from competing with KZfaq.

@@stealthis hmm interesting, I'm still sure competitors will pop up at some point.

Shiri Feldman Eventually, but probably not any time soon. KZfaq will probably have a reign equivalent to cable TV. When they sell out completely and entirely, people will eventually find a new alternative, but it has to happen organically, and really we can't control it. We're at the mercy of Google

@@shirifeldman6510 they'll be bought up before they can get to the point that they are a threat to youtube. Capitalism breeds monopolies

stealthis I mean, their statement is still true. Regardless of how difficult it would be to compete, KZfaq would have no reason to make the changes people want unless some kind of competition was doing it successfully and taking some of their business.

This is so true and especially interesting if you watch their very first videos. They were pretty bland at first but they eventually realized that people like authenticity and charismatic people. And it works :D

I do love Bon Appetite

A lot of artists are completely made up by a team inside record labels. What they wear, the lyrics they sing, their answers they give on interviews etc... the personality people think they have naturally actually is constructed to be more likeable. And you know what? People like them anyway.

Jubilee is one too.

@@Gabriel-ud5hu I mean, if someone's scripting BA's characters and those are just actors with a few cooking skills - I think a few oscars should be waiting for them, cause fuck me I believe each and every one of those characters to be a real human (and I don't even consider some of my acquaintances to be that).

Me too! And I live in Asia, yet I've been seeing more and more of these vlog-type ads that are for services available in the US.

YES omg they've been bothering me so bad! Like, who do they think they are going to fool with those?

Chloe S ikr it’s makes me not want to buy it

Jaishree Singh yes‼️‼️‼️

The Fenty Savage lingerie is being promoted exactly like that, a girl making a review of the product in a video that looks handmade, I hate how they think we are stupid

Marina Vilela Yeah and I think it should be made by a very well known KZfaq creator. Then all the main KZfaqrs should migrate there even temporarily to show they have bargaining power and they won’t put up with this bs anymore.

Yes :(

Marina Vilela yep

Marina Vilela Right?? And it would be cool if the platform also featured unique channel templates for each channel (like a website like Squarespace would) making channels stand out from one another. Maybe it would even feature a blog / instagram portion of it, as well as a Patreon-like aspect where people can subscribe to creators who have classes or extras. I can see this downfall of KZfaq as a major opportunity for someone who wants to seize the opportunity of making individuals matter again. Because the YOU portion of youtube’s fatal end is near, whether we like it or not.

It's all lobbying from mainstream media. They're in their death throes, and spending billions on trying to kill youtube or take over it. Millennials and Gen Zers don't watch cable anymore, i haven't had cable in my house in 8 years. If they don't get us addicted to their content like our parents and their parents, all the power they've accumulated over time will be stripped from them. Even the recent FCC decision to move all content that's kid friendly to youtube kids where there are no comments or ads or ability to earn money from your videos; big media is no doubt behind that decision, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on "convincing" those lawmakers to chip away at KZfaq's dominance in whatever way possible. All that just makes me resent traditional media even more, and makes me far less likely to consume their content. Notable exception of course, is Melanie Martinez, whose movie was extremely authentic, and put out for a whole month for free with no ads. It really feels like youtube content, and not something you'd ever see on regular tv. I went and bought her movie just to support her for being so awesome

Aww man i remember that too! Sadly real life is a bit different. Corps will always win because they had more money.

Yessss this reminded me of Lindsay too!

Love ur profile picture, very inspired.

Or, you know, basic videos people recorded? Because that too was the core of KZfaq.

Greed is the root of all evil.

KZfaq is owned by Google so

but the ghoul boys :(

The only thing I like about BuzzFeed, is BuzzFeed Unsolved with the Ghoul Boys.

I only just found out that Ryan and Shane have their own channel called Watcher. They have cool series like Shane telling historical stories with a puppet (Puppet History), but I don't think they're allowed to promote it via BuzzFeed.

All buzzfeeed channels are literally the same 20 videos repeated. They have done so much videos trying international candy . Buzzfeeds content is lazy content

Jabreakit Jubawit And that doesn’t even mention their website. Everything on it is recycled. You go to an article and it’s just a Reddit thread copied and pasted to get them content. It’s ridiculous.

That got me too lol

Hi Kristen 🙋🏻‍♀️😅

Agreed, the only reason I watch cable TV is because I still live at home with my mom. However, my mom really wants to buy the Amazon FireStick because even she is beginning to get tired of paying for cable.

It's hard to imagine cable TV lasting another 5-10 years with all of the other options, including to pay for KZfaq TV/live programs or Hulu live TV.

and now all the models! karlie kloss has been doing it for a while but then romee strijd and sanne vloet started doing it and now doutzen kroes also started a youtube channel

@@ssnow08 I think Sanne actually makes her own content but Doutzen has a professional production team

@@ssnow08 they always get recommended on my yt homepage and are so far from my horizon that i didnt even know they were models, i just thought they were emma chamberlain type vloggers 😂😅

@@finedaysunday omg hahaha no a lot of vs models or past vs (victoria's secret) models now have youtube channels

They just want the money

to be fair, that company wasn’t pulling a modern “let’s cash in on yt’s success” kinda thing, they wanted to use it as an arg platform to tell a story that dealt with themes of inauthenticity itself.

Such a great point! I completely forgot about the lonelygirl15. Various KZfaq creators have been speaking out against other creators that have scripted/carefully curated content for years. KZfaq’s BEST content comes from authenticity. Majority of viewers agree, and KZfaq keeps pushing mainstream and corporate content. 😒🙄

I will point out that lonelygirl15 was from the beginning intended to be a gripping story in its own right, even though it did pretend to be something it wasn't, and was always an indie production. I don't think scripting is the same as channels secretly being owned by media corps.

Good argument because you tube has always been corporate

Idk, I don't really count ARGs. The only place I can find em is on KZfaq (if theyre videos). More importantly, the best analysis channels are also on YT. They wouldn't work nearly as well if they were mainstream

It's not capitalism, it's people running KZfaq who have no idea what the fk they're doing and have absolutely no experience or credentials whatsoever running an entertainment company. Inexperienced people often think that the key is to simply push people who are already popular, without realizing that the popularity is transient and fades quickly and they must constantly be finding new people to keep it fresh. This is why experienced companies like professional sports have a draft every year and are always promoting new talent. The complete idiots running KZfaq don't get that and have destroyed their own cultural relevance. They'll pay or it. They've been on a downward slide for years in terms of their trend ranking.

Triple F but that’s just it...the creators and moderators of “You”tube are now part of the famous or “it” crowd. I guess it was bound to happen eventually. Now they (corptube) want to support those who can support their thirst and desperation for larger checks. And unfortunately that’s not smaller creators :/

Well, a lot of these creators are just savage people who seek to provoke other people. And then they scream "Oh, KZfaq censors edgy content! Orwellian morons EXPOSED!!!" A lot of these authentic creators are at fault that KZfaq felt the need to go corporate.

wow i really relate to this comment sm, i know exactly how you feel

Well you get it now

Well...lady luck smiled

Plus some youtubers are copying editing styles so now mostly every KZfaq video is the comedic meme-like video... I watch this gamer who used to leave their live-streams like regular KZfaq videos so it was like gaming ASMR for me and a lot of other viewers. I’m okay with change and I actually enjoy the comedic-type quick shot to shot in the same sentence editing but i think the same popular “fast edited quick shot to shot; no long take” editing style is really becoming overbearing and “favored” with viewers and in the algorithm (10 minute videos are more to be seen than hour long ones) more and more taking over individuality and creativity from youtubers who don’t or didn’t care about editing. Idk... I’m just tired of seeing the same type of content in different forms/genres.

Am I the only one who just wants to see KZfaqrs here not for the money but because they are passionate about the topics they want to share? Ofc I want my favorite independent youtubers to get some "hobby cash" but once it starts paying "like a career" I lose interest.

@@asdfghjkl-oo7lv me! i wanna see youtubers who aren’t trying to make it a job man

@@tgwtg9428 I just wanna see people have fun again tbh. I could care less if it looks "aesthetic". Just share some fun stuff with us. I wish youtube would also reccomend small creaters too.

It's bullshit

Me too. I can't figure out how to unplug from pop culture if it's all over KZfaq now

its organic because they have started on youtube and have been doing it for years. they weren’t a company before, they became one from youtube.

I chuckled way too hard at this 😂

ASHLEY FURNITURE HOME STORE

😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣💀

Exactly! 😂

Samme

Haha exactly.

That video was so obnoxious though 😂 especially all the gross sound effects

right😭 it's really sad at this point

i hate capitalism

Eat the rich!

Ducky McDuckface yes comrade!

Everything that has a positive or inclusive intention will be destroyed by capitalism. Because 1 - they don't want unprivileged people to feel included and 2 - they definitelly don't want to see them profit from it.

@@Gabriel-ud5hu It's definitely about snubbing out the competition and less about feeling included. Capitalism doesn't give a fuck about how you feel wether it's feeling excluded or included. They just care about their bottom line.

I was just thinking about this! I use corporate KZfaq to access "foreign" contents not available in Indonesia hahaha

He's great. And I never get ads on his videos either

Eh. He only made his way into the establishment so he could poke it with a stick.

You inherited a problem child business daddy!

And Hasan Minhaj, it's so awesome that he made his episodes available on KZfaq (unless you're Saudi Arabia).

Is he a corp youtuber or doesn’t he just upload segments from his show on KZfaq?

I'm here for the tea as well :)

When did she say that?

Man she was to cool to be true

PREACHHHH ILL FIND THE LINKS FOR YALL GIMME A MINUTE

@@tiffanyferg kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7ymoMqondPQqqc.html go to 17:48

just install ad blocker

@@twice_velvet nah, there's youtube vanced for that thx for the suggestion through

omg finally i don't feel so alone. I don't have an instagram, I've used twitter for a combined 20 minutes in my entire life, and i haven't been on facebook in years. That shit is a cancer

i get tiktok ads constantly. like i’m not downloading that crap but jeez. and there’s so so so many ads now (2 before a video, scattered throughout). so mine are all tiktok

an I OOP sis

Omggg i love you Luke, also Tiffany. I can die in peace

I feel like a lot of people have remembered lonelygirl15, but keep forgetting that it was supposed to be an ARG and critique of KZfaq's reliance on authenticity -- which was only later sponsored.

Yep always

they have a bunch already ur just in the bandwagon

Raymond Flores yeah but none of them have made it mainstream. besides it’s hard to do when everything from music videos and OG youtubers are basically tied to youtube

@@raymondflores5176 can u suggest any new platforms

@@monikan2309 Bitchute of course. But yeah, nothing mainstream is out yet.

Saaame! Alexa Chung's channel kept appearing but I couldn't mark it as "not interested".

Saaaame. That channel is being shoved down my throat everyday

But tbh I love her because she has a great personality and there are (yet) not many sponsorships.

Kellie Skywalker-Solo what’s Jablin’, Jables? Sorry, no gaming video this week.

@@emmabunch-benson7922 neither did I 😄

I agree

Helpless independent creators fucked by big dicked sted dad corporate interests

Pornhub sounds like a good alternative tho

Funny enough I was on a thread the other day that basically said we should all flood pornhub with yt type content and that they would notice and realize they could become much much more. Something like “vidhub”. They’re literally the only other company with the infrastructure to deliver the amount of videos to that amount of people for YTers to move over.

@@someguynamedvictor lets do it!

@@someguynamedvictor that is an insane idea, so much so that it has incredible potential! #floodpornhub

LMG is trying with Floatplane, but it's much harder than it sounds. You have to bring your viewers over to the new platform, and if your viewers watch all their other content on youtube, they'll be unlikely to switch viewing platforms for one creator. You would need a coordinated mass migration to the new service. Aside from that, the entry cost is extremely prohibitive. Imagine how big the servers need to be to hold all the content on youtube. It would cost billions. KZfaq's not going anywhere, and we're pretty much at their mercy.

@@BothHands1 I went to Floatplane to check it out and when I saw it requires sign-up I left. Transferring your audience to a new platform is hard enough but putting a wall in the way of content doesn't sound like a good idea.

BroadwayInHD Yeah, they're just starting out and doing it as a passion project. I don't have an account either, tbh. It's mostly just tech youtubers for now anyway, but they need to slowly build up capital with their current loyal audience of techies, so they can grow their servers. It's probably not something that's going to be interesting or accessible to the general public for years, if ever. It just goes to show how hard it is to start a new platform like this. When you don't have 10 billion dollars to set up server farms all over the USA, you gotta start small with a dedicated and passionate audience who will help you raise capital, and donate/contribute.

Many small youtubers have talked about this, some have migrated to a platform called Minds, idk how that went tbh

I hope it's soon. People be like, "I guess the current system's bad, but if we complain enough -- it'll magically get better." KZfaq has a lot of areas where they need to up their ish, and, even though I understand why some people may think their complaints matter to massive corporations, moving away from the platform is the only assurance we have of changing something. We have no choice but to be complicit in the system for now (unless we go off the grid or watch cable, ugh), but supporting the people who are trying to make a new platform, with the aim of eventually moving to the new one is our best bet. -Are we still talking about KZfaq?-

Informative I can live with. Funny...? Not so much.

Finding new creators is increasing in difficulty due to how much YT pushes celebs.

tiffanyferg OMG Tiffany you replied, yoooo I’m dead 😂❤️ I know right?! All KZfaq cares about is money...instead of caring about their viewers. KZfaq really needs a strong competitor who’s gonna snatch their position of a leader, maybe then they will understand us viewers worth...Sigh...I remember back in the days I used to love KZfaq and Facebook so much, I think that we all truly believed that these two were platforms of broadcasting ourselves/keeping in touch with people, they were actually fun and relatable, but now after they got so many ppl hooked I understood that they don’t give a shit about us, all they care about is money and popularity ☹️ I wonder if you know how much disturbing stuff is left on KZfaq uncensored? One of the most disturbing things I found out about KZfaq is the child pornography and pedophilia that KZfaq allows to grow...

Why watch spill tho? Other than the production quality they have absolutely NO original ideas, receipts or good research. They come with the tea late to the party also, their content is mostly stolen from the original drama channels. I personally don't even care about the animation because I don't actually watch it, I just listen to it while doing other stuff.

I feel like KZfaq drama is not a big deal and should be light hearted. It is just so much better delivered by someone putting some personality into it rather than a scripted voice and a monotone cartoon. It makes it all seem like a much bigger deal than it is and tbh is just kinda boring. I don't know who is fun in the drama community now but back when I still watched stuff like that rich lux would always make me laugh (his content is not that fun anymore tbh unfortunately).

david pakman gets his news from corporations he should shut up and hire journalists if he doesnt want them empowered but nope he relies on cnn and fox so does kyle kullinsky and tyt

YOU shouldnt support spilL then. theres a bunch of authentic drama channels that are good,dont give the corps more views

@@itsbrandyxoxo5001 thank you

Maeve K oh wow 😮

Maeve K please tell me more

PLEASE EXPLAIN

tbh I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to say, but more or less he got a gig doing "social media ghost writing" (very common for celebrities or public figures) for a media company, and... that was his assignment. lol

oh here we go, techcrunch.com/2018/04/23/the-makers-of-the-virtual-influencer-lil-miquela-snag-real-money-from-silicon-valley/ basically he got a job at Brud hahah