This should be pinned. Really hard to make any sense of anything with the video laid out as it is. Thanks for posting.

@@MrDblStop pherotone should give their/his props too, i guess ;)

good shout. The V30 may sound nicer on humbuckers so i'll have to do another video to test that theory

Pherotone Studios The noiseless pickups are very similar to HBs. I have a few sets. One Fender noiseless 1s in my Jeff Beck Strat and the other EMGs are stacked. Your video is very well done.

Thanks mate

@@PherotoneStudios You're welcome!

good shout actually. I've got a couple of projects to get out the way but I will do exactly that

To be honest I can’t hear a difference between open and closed backs but I prefer open backs as I think it’s cool to see the speakers and makes measuring distances easier if you’re micing the rear of the cab. Also open back cabs are slightly lighter which is nice.

brilliant comment. Thanks for taking the time to listen properly. It's always a hard test as different speakers also respond differently at different volume levels. Because the greenback has the lowest wattage it will break-up the soonest, but that breaking up sound can sound amazing (as long as you're not pushing it too hard and actually destroying the cone).

What is the wattage of the Green Back. I have 50 watt tube amp with one V 30 in it. I think it is a 65 watt speaker.

Thank you so much for the nice comment. The reason I play my own music is because I don’t know many covers and have previously had cover music taken down from KZfaq. Keep it up mate

Actually Greenbacks are what made Marshall famous, all big names from late 60s to late 70s used them. The T75 arrived later, when Marshall was already the leader of Rock amplifiers

I agree. The G12's are clear and bright, but that isn't a bad thing. It means you can go easy on the treble and dial in plenty of resonance without the speakers just giving up and flubbing out on you, especially on those lower gain setting where you want to add some growl to the cleans while still keeping the lows tight.

+Geoff White thanks mate

Not a bad shout. Definitely worth a try. It’s just the space the 4 speaker can takes up that I struggle with

That's what I do. X pattern but wired left v right stereo

Oh no. I’ve heard about KZfaq putting loads of extra ads in videos. For some reason it didn’t cross my mind that they’d be in my videos as I only watch them when editing. I dread to think how much data google harvest to tailor the ads. Clever though

It know's what you think. It knows where you live It will never stop, until it rips your heart out. Hasta la vista baby. V30's by the way were always over rated. Muddy and irritating.

Well I can tell you that “G12T-75” is by far the most popular search term over Greenback and Vintage 30 on my channel so this hatred is silly. It’s like the hatred for the Metalzone pedal. I’ve owned that pedal. Sounds great. Currently I’m only micing up the Greenback. Purely because I couldn’t remember which way round the speakers were in the cab so just put the mic on the left one. Forgot I’d put them alphabetically and it’s also an open back cab so I’m really lazy. Great idea with the blend. Great comment all round. Thanks mate

@@PherotoneStudios ~ You're totally welcome (I've been engineering professionally for 20 years about, so I tend to speak in terms of how frequencies should interact without realizing it). =P I feel you on the Metalzone, and on a whole host of of the old BOSS distortion pedals. I recently bought an OD200 for my new pedal board I'm pulling together because it had a "Metalzone" setting, a Blues Driver, and an OD1 Setting, as well as a "SD1" setting (labled Tubescreamer, but we all know the Tubescreamer was just an SD1 clone). I think it also does the DS1/DS2 thing, but I'd have to dig into the drive list on the manual, and do direct comparisons to some of my old recordings. Sometimes those old simple pedals were just "the sound" that worked. So it's been really nice to have one pedal that covers most of that ground that you can also program via MIDI.

I’ve only just seen this reply, sorry. I couldn’t agree more. How are you finding the OD200?

@@PherotoneStudios ~ Hey man! No worries. I am loving the OD-200, but I have a kind of a ridiculous setup. I'm using a pedalboard that has a Friedman bufferbay (a 6 Input/output patch bay essentially), a small Hotone Cybery MIDI controlled pedal switcher, and two Eventide H9s. All of this goes out of the bay into inserts 1, 3, and 4 (3 and 4 are in stereo for the H9s isolated) on my Line 6 Helix, and then my Kemper goes into insert 2. As elaborate as it all sounds, now I can simply control/recall distortion settings for the OD-200 on Insert 1 with my Helix (which is super fast now that it's all programmed), and every distortion setting can get it's own custom NS2 noise gate setting as needed internal to the OD-200. As the OD-200 can also be switched on and off via MIDI, it's in front of the Cybery, but still controlled by it without having to take up a loop on the board (which has a Klon clone that is really close to a real Centaur I owned for 16 years, a Cali 76 compressor, a Katzenkonig by Caitlinbread, and a DM2 Waza to give me things I'm just used to having on a live rig around. So...basically I have all my real amps profiled meticulously like I'd record them in studio in my Kemper, I've got a few pedals I'd run in front of my real amps which I can control via MIDI, and then I've my H9, AND the Line 6 FX on top of some Kemper FX if I want to make really powerful wet/dry or wet/dry/wet stereo signal chains. Committing to this change was hard on me at first, because I ran a public recording studio for over a decade, but I'm just making more money in production and post, so I wanted a rig that captured most of my great old amps before I flipped the majority them. I do however, honestly prefer the OD-200 to say the Line 6 emulations of some of those distortion pedals, but sometimes chaining an emulation before it can be awesome for gain-staging (say you use a Line6 OD1 and boost 1dB going into the OD-200 OD1 setting boosting yet another dB, this sounds cleaner than boosting at any one stage and can be really handy). Also I prefer the OD-200 to pretty much all my old Boss pedals (most of which have been ebayed as a result, so it's already paid for itself). It sounds virtually the same to every pedal it mimics (to the point where cork sniffing was really a waste of time for everything but the Klon Centaur and Big Muff style settings, and even those are pretty darn close in most respects). I know some people are worried because it has an AD converter...but digital recall for 198 settings with the new firmware AND the built in noise gate, parallel processing, and stacking options means it just takes up no space while being a lot more musical/flexible than owning a closet of old pedals instead. I run a Pro Tools Ultimate rig with a Prism Sound Titan currently, and DI recordings with this setup has been super clean, and easy to recall. I can't say enough good things. I've been thinking about starting a youtube channel just to document this workflow. I hope you're doing well and are safe man, I love your channel. Sorry for writing a novel. The OD-200 is really worth it if you want to sink the time into something you can control via MIDI for sure. If you're more into tweaking analog pedals its not the most intuitive thing...but I just need recall to be perfect every time for mixing/mastering or I'm losing time I can't afford.

Vintage 30 is my go to although I used the G12t-75 on the single i'm recording and it sounded really good.

Ah ok. what kind of sound are you aiming for? I went the other way and ditched the G12t-75 and kept the greenback and vintage 30, although those speakers can handle less wattage so one of the reasons for doing that was to be able to drive them hard and make them break up. I'm currently working on a way of mounting a speaker inside a coffee table in the lounge and that may be a G12t-75

@@PherotoneStudios Right now, I like the blend of the V30 and the Greenback because of the breakup of the greenback compliments the cleanness of the V30 (at least to my ears). I feel like the 75s are basically that blend and can handle a higher wattage. Am I wrong in thinking that?

Nice. My amp mic is permanently set up on the Greenback

Thanks mate. Glad it helped. Incidentally I use the greenback in every one of my recordings

Not a bad shout. At least you try a mic on each of the cones to get the sound you eant

Nice comment. I will be doing a similar test using a guitar with humbuckers just to see how that sounds. If you have G12s anyway, I personally wouldn’t change them

Nice comment. I will be doing a similar test using a guitar with humbuckers just to see how that sounds. If you have G12s anyway, I personally wouldn’t change them

The 75’s have more clarity and sizzle. They cut through a full band mix like a laser. They aren’t as dynamic as the greens and 30’s played alone without a kick drum or bass axe. But Marshall made their name with the 75’s because of their pronounced, shattering scream. They’re the Rob Halford of celestions.

I guess that is the purpose of the preamp mid EQ or tone knob on pedal to compensate depending on the type of speaker you are using?

They’re great speakers and when driven hard they sound fantastic as it begins to break up. Thanks for listening

Couldn’t agree more. I play modern metal and I just tested them out on a 6505+ head and I thought they sounded unreal. Especially surprised me at how good it sounded at low volume.

Interestingly I was listening to this last night as I’m considering getting rid of one of the cones and the Vintage 30 is my favourite. I’ll be doing this again soon with a Les Paul to see what’s best using humbuckers

@@PherotoneStudiosI just came back here to listen again and I liked the G12T-75 way better for the crunch sound. What the heck, I think I will just get both the V30 and the T75 and play with them for some time to really be able to make up mi mind.

Ah man if you have a 2x12” then 100% get a v30 and a g12t

Nice. I don’t know why the G12 gets hated on so much when it’s a great speaker. I built it into another DIY cab that’s in my lounge and it sounds fantastic! G12 is the most searches for speaker going by my KZfaq analytics, so people obviously secretly love it

@@PherotoneStudios I think everyone's just putting v30s everywhere so people are made to assume that's what they need... (exactly my case)

Very true. There’s also probably one rogue article where someone hasn’t liked the G12 and everyone just regurgitates that without actually trying one

@@PherotoneStudios could be. Anyway, I just got a used one to try in place of a jensen in my combo, the amp is on standby, moment of truth!! ^^

It’s a great speaker. For some reason it gets a lot of stick and I genuinely have no idea why

@@PherotoneStudios 🤷‍♂️ Have the other two been around longer? May be a matter of sticking to what you know. But now I know when I get a 4x12 it doesn't really matter which one of these speakers are in it, they all sound great.

Maybe you’re right. It could be due to it being a newer speaker. I totally agree, every speaker cabinet sounds good

@@PherotoneStudios Absolutely. It's a matter of not getting stuck looking at gear and getting to making music. See ya around!

Great comment. It’s nice reading something where someone has really listened. Im doing a similar review using a guitar with humbuckers soon just to see how that stacks up. The Vintage 30 was my favorite

Great reply , I left humbuckers and used p90 HB sized pickups but when I bought a Epiphone traditional LP I stay with the HB as there good and warm , less gain in HB pups is a better tone when cranked up ! HB have a more wide range of abilities and they own Classic rock , blues are awesome with a glass slide too as the sustain is fantastic if you can hit those golden notes ! I tune my tube amps using vintage and new 12ax7 tubes , the Tungsram 12ax7 tube is one of the best tones you can get pushed abit ! Never a bad note on those tubes ! Its all about getting your vibe that your ears like , trust your ears as I noticed others cannot tell the difference switching 12ax7 tubes ? Some folks have no ear for tone I guess , or they are not really listening ? It took many hours to re-tube the 5 - 12ax7 tubes in a Jet City 2212 combo but when I switched the speaker to a vintage 30 it was amazing and no more tweaks was needed ! I did not imagine how good that vintage 30 speaker was until I heard it myself wow !

Yeah I should have spotted that. Think I was pressed too hard

Sorry about that. Avoid the Blackstar HT-20 in that case. Since this video I’ve moved to a Boss Katana and Orange Rocker 15 Terror. Planning on doing another comparison on those

Sorry, but telling him, they do sound the same, is not fair at all. If you have a good sense of hearing, you here a slightly difference. Maybe try to use good headphones :)

KZfaq also compresses audio etc. So any difference we hear here, would be huge in real life.