Most tanks can actually climb 60

So worse lol

Gaijined

butter tracks

They did that so players cant exploit climbing outside map and camp there, with overview over the entire map. Not that I agree with it, but understand. And these campers were pretty fookin annoying too.

Your a car guy?

@@titanfallgamerwithnotitanf8187 Not in WarThunder

@@mqxle7006 good

yeah we just waiting for Ariete 2.0

@@italiancountryball865 eh per quello ci vorrà un po'

No dont give them idea pls

it would be called ariete mk2 not ariete 2 but ok

@rn u probs think its called the merkava 3 instead of merkava mk.3 huh. keep representing the average iq of the war thunder community

ITS DEFINITELY NOT THE CENTAURO 105 WITHOUT THE ROMOR THAT DEFINTELY DOESN"T NEED TO BE PUT BACK AT 8.0.

@@SadisNic 100% is fine where it’s at now. Thing was hella op at 8.0

@@MS07B3-G0UF With 3k kills between it, the Sidam, and T106, I know. I just miss the Italian 8.0 lineup. It was all Italy had. Now we're one of two without an 11.0, we have no rank 7 air with a 10.3 f104 for top tier, our hyper pen round got passed by the US, Rus, and Ger just to have it along with all others but Ger knocked down. ONE strong lineup is all I want, because Italy has just been getting gutted left and right for 3 patches now. The Centauro at 8.0 was literally the reason to play Italy for most Italy mains, now it got moved up making the ROMOR absolutely useless, breaking its lineups even farther apart and making it an even harder nation to play.

@@SadisNic yeah I know, I felt it with the ammo nerf, 4 of my tanks with that round got fucked. My 2 Arietes, my MGS, and my Merkava

i love war thunder "tank experts"! it's like playing a space game and calling itself a space expert!!

It’s a shitty rooikat

@@tacoman698 i think yuo mean roikat is shity centauro?

Italians know how to make some good looking vehicles, Ariete P is just beautiful

well it weighs 100tons

@@felixherrera6235 you're off by 88tons

@@felixherrera6235 which means more traction, so sliding is even more comical.

@@danielsteger8456 if your going vertical up the hill you have the turret at the rear which means which means the center of gravity is more to the rear of the tank

@@felixherrera6235 Center of mass would change its position but that have nothing to do with this example. In theory the huge mass of Mause could just slide some big chunk of ground below him in some situations but this is not how it works in this game. Traction of the tanks were reduced to block all the players that were using it to climb hills and use some positions for extra(not planedby designers) advantage... personaly i hate when my tank is sliding down for no good reason and its often comical how bad the new physic in this game is in this topic.

Need freccia while USA gets lav 25

Italy tech tree also need the AV-8B 2 plus harrier the f-35 A and f-35 B

@@LosSantosDowntowncabCo. don't forget the Tornado and 2 other centauro varians

@@riccardomariani9648 yeah it would be great and more interesting to level the tech tree up

7/10

Dude... centaur + o 10/10 difficulty, would affect the vote again. -IGN

Meanwhile I still don't know who made those tanks

@@Scarletraven87 Fiat, it’s a car company only now

@@Scarletraven87 He said IVECO and FIAT my friend. I know IVECO from their trucks and i don't need to talk about FIAT cuz everyone knows.

Agreed. 10.7 Italy all the way. Too bad we no longer have a 11.0 ground vehicle. And don't have an 11.0/10.7 aircraft. OR EVEN A RANK 7 AIRCRAFT. It hurts being an Italy main in War Thunder.

The thing is, there are no other armor packages for the ariete irl at the moment

@@Dan86130 they just need to make the WAR accurate.. irl it was designed to improve KE protection, instead even in this upcoming patch they reduced the KE multiplier to be even less than the Kontakt 1, which is totally inaccurate

WHY CASSSS,hell no,tank are terrorized enough by those idiots with CAS,gaijin should do one of these things: 1.Remove CAS planes or rockets from them 2.MAKE a new gamemode where only tanks can enter,this game is too retarded at tanks,you spawn,go 200m,get killed by CAS and did nothing in that match

@@gabwafen6278 do you realize that Italy has 0 high tier tech tree CAS options?

@@gabwafen6278 get good and use SPAAs. CAS is fundamental in a battle and they won't remove it

What changed? It’s flat pen Is for sure nerfed. They make the angle pen better? Or am I missing something? Because the numbers look lower

@@MS07B3-G0UF dude,its still enough for a light vehicle,even 300mm pen was enough for that vehicle,not 600mm,its a light vehicle,not a medium my logic:light vehicle=weak vehicle,like in wot

@@gabwafen6278 wot > real world

@@f00koff42 mhhm,wot better then irl;)

@@gabwafen6278 your logic is fundamentally flawed.

Stop asking for things

@@Tars6757 oh cmon, Italy aint good in both aerial and ground

@@marcomenabue7717 Yeah your kinda right because they nerfed the C123 round which used to pen 625mm in the Areite and is now 598mm. Probably because the German weebs keep saying it's "too overpowered".

@@Tars6757 yeah, sick of shiny new bullshit top tier thing every patch and grindhards on forums crying over it's ever so slightly worse than it should've been. Best off balance stuff out that's already on hand. Also asking for new premiums...

This aged very well

mhh Jugoslavia didn't join the Warsaw pact, Tito joined the "non aligned" countries. He was a comunist but he didn't support Stalin's ideology

Yugoslavia was not a member of the Warsaw pact and tito was strictly hateful towards soviet supremacy to the point where the soviet union sent multiple agents trained to murder tito, to estabilish a pro soviet regime over the country.

I believe you will enjoy it, the anti air... I mean the tank destroyer line is the best among all nations.

@@red-pe1ue which AA line?

Italian tanks are fun. My favorite low tier is the 3.3 semovente and the m15 on 2.3 and the p40

you... shall know... pain! anyway, they are very good but: 1) you'll be always in uptier 2) russians will penetrate even if they shouldn't 3) p40 is actually p-26/40 and it'll be or op or useless it depends on the match (not opponents, literally one time it's god and one time is the stereotype) 4) 90/53 m41m was difened like this: "a locked enemy was already considered destroyed" 5) do planes

@@marcovizzari3008 90/53 is glorious

Bella per te fratello

mamma mia

Lol, right now SIDAM repair cost is 20-30k, it's stupid

@@masonhack4946 holy sh*t

@@masonhack4946 what, really? I mean i know that Italy Is already being bullied by gajin but this Is too much

They just got a new jet last patch that was dominating

I feel you my brother,one day we will get the Tornado aldeanos the Centauro II

@@HIFLY01 the Sag?

@@HIFLY01 sure IT WAS... now It stand at 8.7 with over 30000 sl of repair cost. Well done Gaijin!

@@serse9570 They could just remove repair costs all together and just high the research points of every vehicle, still bad, but not this bad. This would also fit with the nerf in sl rewards they made

Challenger mk 3

They nerfed armor that already barely saved me? And my shell seems to have less pen?

@@MS07B3-G0UF correct they reduced the pen by about 40mm

@@jasoncrawford4929 whyyyy

@@jasoncrawford4929 it’s still sufficient but I guess only Germans can have 600+ pen...

@@MS07B3-G0UF yeah it's sufficient but that was Italy's gimmick besides having mostly gen 2 or 3 thermals

The Centauro HVMS with the was leaked a few weeks ago. Shoots the same 60mm rounds as the AUBL HVG. Just a name in a list but other vehicles from that list have been teased for the next update already.

@@legoclone0965 please god

@SAMUELE GIULIANI its boring, the whole point is to be able to change every time but you are always stuck grinding tech trees

@@aliminhas5981 flank, thats your priority.

apfsds no good?

@@aliminhas5981 i rarely flank with centauro, usually i go to a strategic place to scout on early game, let team get some kills, then move out to another position to eliminate enemies in range

@@harits3183 its okay,

@@lemongames268 okay then

There is the Leonardo's M60A3 Upgrades and modernized, fitted with the L45 cannon same as the centauro B2.

The first Bradley has thermals and I think its still 8.0. Loved destroying tiger 2s with the 105

The Italian 8.0 lineup was probably one of the strongest lineups in the entire game. The Centauro, Sidam, R3, with OF40 and M113 as backup. Edit: Finished reading your comment. Italy has been completely gutted by Gaijin for whatever reason. We are the only country without a rank 7 air, with a 10.3 F104 as our top tier plane. They took away the premium international. Neither the Oto or Mystral can deal with helicopters. We don't even have 11.0 ground forces vehicle anymore. The SPAA gap between 4.7 and 8.3 is horrendous. Our M113 doesn't get Tow 2Bs but China's does. Can confirm the Mystral doesn't have NVGs. The Sidam also only gets 50 APDS rounds in that belt. Hell, even the CL3143 nerf and power creep. The only reason top tier Italy had a purpose because we had the highest penning round in the game at 621mm at 10m. Then every other country got one with 50mm plus pen over ours. Now because the 2PL has ruined top tier Germany, everyone got knocked down sub 600 except Germany. Legit, being an Italy main and it being my first tree with 3k kills between the B1, R3106, and base Sidam, it is nearly physically painful to see the tree so absolutely gutted for near to no apparent reason.

Which Swedish 8.0 has thermals?

@@yowaddup5649 I thought the IKV 91 did, but I am mistaken, I do think it is one of the earliest tanks with a laser range finder though at 7.0 which might be why I got confused

@@SadisNic I find helies are the only thing my Oto handles with consistency, but only under the conditions that 1) you spawned the Oto before the heli spawned. & 2) they are focused on something else so your rounds actually have time to travel to them. If some other tank you are driving gets sniped by a ka-50 though, you are pretty much hosed because they will be firing missiles on your Oto as soon as you spawn in. That being said, any other AA will take the kill out from under you pretty much every time.

Underrated.

bella per stO CazzO!!OzzazzO!OOzzaC Ots reper stO CazzO!

@@Betto_333 👍

"as the wave I engulf as the rock reef I shatter" (to be precise it doesn't really say "rock reef": a "scoglio" is one single boulder you can find in the sea, like those of artificial breakwaters. So yeah it would be like "boulder" but it doesn't sound specific enough)

It was a tank destroyer but it have the gameplay of a light tanks,so they changed it,Mike the hellcat

Also it doesn't operate as a normal Tank destroyer by definition irl, same purpose but different strategies, more like a light tank

It would be interesting on a side, but there would be huge era gaps, it would be even worst than China in this, Romania as a lot in common with Italy, when it comes to tank and planes, it would be nice to put them in the italian tech tree, cuz Romania as a lot of interesting stuff! Not as premiums btw.

The f4f for Germany had the capability removed for the cost I believe. It later was upgraded substantially. Just look on wikipedia or something about f4 varients. You'll see it

Because the Germans didn’t use AIM-7’s when they first got their phantoms, they were later upgraded to take AIM-120’s but the game isn’t ready for that.

@@sargesacker2599 nowhere close to ready. Air RB would need to be totally redone to handle them

There not gonna add that

nahh,you dont need,that vehicle is good without,u are not good enough

Yeah Bruce probably did

"Fiat 6614 and Fiat 6616" is what he said. So, he is talking about both the Fiat 6614 with the 106mm RR, and the AUBL/74 with the 90mm Cockerill.

@@mehfffolk9789 I quote "The Type 6616 was a version of the Type 6614 that incorporated a turret armed with a 20mm autocannon. The turret was designed, built, and installed by OTO Melara." I hope you're aware that the FIAT 6614 platform is completely different from the AUBL/74 platform

it was