Just to clarify, Roiland was not "cleared" of anything. The charges were dropped because of insufficient evidence, which proves nothing. As far as the show itself, Roiland's entire contribution to Rick and Morty has been voicing the lead characters for the last 3 or 4 seasons. By all accounts, he has been a disruptive, disinterested, detached presence in the writer's room: angry, insulting, abusive, gross, and generally looking for a fight. He hasn't been on speaking terms with Dan Harmon since season 2. Other than voicing the leads, his departure isn't much of a loss.
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
A lot of that info comes from the Hollywood Reporter expose from about 6 weeks ago. And a lot of it may very well be true. Roiland sounds difficult, to say the least. I'm not advocating that he's a great guy (Dan Harmon is no boy scout either), I'm saying that Adult Swim shouldn't have put commerce over their own ethics, since ethics is the very reason they claimed to have released him. The integrity of the art itself should be priority #1. If the integrity of the art is compromised due to the departure of key talent, it's time to move on. Too often, the pursuit of money supersedes artistic integrity.
@BrianAdamThompson Жыл бұрын
Love your channel and appreciate your passion, but I know a fair number of people who work on this show and none of them were surprised or upset when Roiland was let go. The charges against him becoming public were most definitely the final straw with the powers that be when it came to firing him, but there have been many issues compounding for many years. Most of these issues have nothing to do with his personal life and are entirely about workplace behavior. Roiland hasn't had much creative input in the show at all for several years beyond doing the voices. There's a reason the creative team responsible for the show has chosen to continue without him and not push back against his firing. As a creator myself, I wouldn't feel comfortable with the idea of being removed from my own co-creation rather than just having it canceled outright (for any reason, really, justified or not), but the people responsible for the creative direction of the show for the last several seasons are all still there. The voice actor will be different (which is potentially a huge change of course) but that will be the only difference going forward.
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
You said it and I agree with it, the show should have been cancelled outright. To fire the co-creator and then continue to try to mine it for cash is as unscrupulous as the accusations themselves to me. Too often, we're seeing the almighty dollar take priority over ethics. It's not new, certainly, but if we're going to call out bad behavior from Party A, surely we must also acknowledge it from Party B.
@BrianAdamThompson Жыл бұрын
Point taken. WB certainly would have fired everyone at the show if they thought they needed to do so to protect future profits. I might also feel differently if I didn't know some of the people involved. Right or wrong, I can understand the writing staff and the other co-creator feeling enough ownership to continue without Roiland considering how absent he's been. Some of the staff might have continued just because they need the work, but Harmon certainly isn't just in it for the money and the show's at least as much his as Roiland's.
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
To your point about Harmon, I have a lot of respect for him as a creator (separate from him as a human) and I admire his commitment to keeping his shows from overstaying their welcome and reinventing them as needed. I’m a bit mystified as to why he’s staying on. I suspect he’s bound by a contract, but that’s just a guess. Well, I’ll hope for the best beyond season 7. It’s not that I’m a massive Roiland fan, I just dislike the rampant consumerism and double standards that proliferate our lives now.
@xghoulishgalx Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to see that season 6 is actually getting released in Australia next week. Maybe a year ago, seasons 1-5 were removed from Australian retailers websites. Too bad for anyone wanting to get the other seasons, I guess.
@garvisreed2410 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the James Gunn situation with Disney, and I told one of my friends on our podcast that James Gunn would be back. The charges against Justin caused not only Adult Swim but Hulu to distance themselves from him as well. Never the less, I assume he will be back even if just to do a couple of wrap up seasons and put a satisfying end to Rick and Morty.
@JTwoH Жыл бұрын
Despite the clickbaitiness of the title. I enjoyed this video and tend to agree with you. Hopefully things work themselves out. I will say Seth MacFarlane left American Dad! longer ago then people realize, in the creative sense, and that show now has a second life. Though, he did stay on to continue the voice.
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
I thought the title and thumbnail accurately summed up the talking points of this video. I can't imagine the show going beyond an eighth season. Think of Ren and Stimpy without John Kricfalusi. Once the leader leaves, it's over.
@kunider9714 Жыл бұрын
@@CerealAtMidnight i have yet to watch the video (i will do it soon), so maybe you mention it, but they do have an order for 10 seasons (actually they signed for 70 episodes more after season 3 was done)
@ZyxthePest Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but those creepy DMs have been floating around for years and they weren't just made on the spot to coincide with his court case. I remember seeing them back in 2020. It was only a matter of time before his own actions caught up with him, one way or another. I can't speak to the legitimacy of the case, as next to no info outside its creation and its subsequent drop, but the guy has clearly been a weirdo behind the scenes for years. It's not helped by the fact that he had next to no creative input for years.
@MyFireVideos Жыл бұрын
This situation is a microcosm of what is wrong with modern media. George Lucas has some awesome interviews and quotes about how the art of movies is lost as corporations decree what has to be in them. I have not yet seen season 6 of Rick and Morty. I felt like the seasons have been progressively going downhill and going more for the gross out gags (I know, always a part of the show since the pilot) than for the smart nihilistic sci fi. It's sad to see this unique show fizzle out like this. I can't imagine the show existing without the voice of the 2 main characters. That being said, how is season 6? Any good?
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
I still enjoy the show, but I stick to my four-season theory. It feels more like a product than it used to, but it's still better than a lot of stuff out there.
@Dan_TheAnimal Жыл бұрын
Honestly kind of lost interest in the show. Idk what it is maybe I just outgrew it or something but I’m kind of meh about it. Maybe it’s just taken too long to come out, there hasn’t been a show that I’ve liked in the past that I just lost interest in for no real reason. Like Arrowverse had a steep decline in quality, other shows I was just too busy and had to cut some. Rick and Morty I kind of just stopped caring.
@andrewday3603 Жыл бұрын
When Seth left Family Guy as a writer, I felt the show took a dip and I personally stopped watching it. I still like to watch the reruns.
@daveandreahoward8203 Жыл бұрын
Is your carpet glowing?
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
Rather, it's my righteous indignation glowing like a sun. (Really, the curtains were drawn, allowing direct sunlight. I couldn't believe how bright it was when I edited the video)
@joefawley9264 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the last few seasons haven't been very good. Love the first season a lot though.
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
The truth is, it may have run its course. I've heard Dan Harmon talk about how they NEVER wanted to get into the origin of Rick, but the show ran long enough that they had to. They couldn't avoid it any more.
@MyFireVideos Жыл бұрын
@@CerealAtMidnight Maybe it's time to end it. Make one last piece that ties it up...
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
I think so. I'd like Season 7 to be the end.
@djthunderfunk2090 Жыл бұрын
Simple... Either WB/Adult Swim issue and apology and reinstate him, or, the show dies. I guess we'll see if WB likes money or not.
@Tomhyde098 Жыл бұрын
This last season wasn’t very good. I’ve never been a fan of the improvisational comedy style that Roiland has like in interdimensional cable. The “oh jeez…it’s a pen…I have a pen…look at me….oh jeez…a blue pen…Rick I don’t like this pen…what a pen”. It’s absolutely terrible and they’ve been leaning into that comedy style way too much the last couple seasons. Hopefully with a new voice cast they can steer away from that but I think the writing is on the wall for this show.
@jonathangreiner7264 Жыл бұрын
Those texts are still pretty gross. Regardless if he was found innocent. Just a sad situation. Good show or was...
@CerealAtMidnight Жыл бұрын
For sure. We know too much about what goes on behind the scenes.
@clayjohanson Жыл бұрын
[AS] messed up big time when they fired Roiland before he was found guilty. I personally won’t watch any new episode where someone other than Roiland is voicing Rick or Morty. He really should sue [AS] for his fair share of all revenues the show generates, times three (treble damages), plus a big wrongful termination bonus on top.
@speedingatheist Жыл бұрын
I will not support a series/company that disables 'innocent until proven guilty'. Otherwise society turns into the Salem Trials. There are enough shows operating with some ethics.
@NeoOwnz Жыл бұрын
Season 7 is the end of Rick and morty. I didn't like much of season 6 but at least it's out to own on physical media.