CGC Quality Control strikes again - plus, the Hellfire Club, taped spines, Eightball & more!

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Bronze And Modern Gods

3 ай бұрын

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John & Richard answer your comic book collecting questions in Viewer Mail including another massive screw up by CGC - is anyone watching the house? The Old Fart Rule takes us back to a long-running First Comic, and our Underrated Books of the Week showcase a Mark Millar property and the immortal Eightball by Daniel Clowes!
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@Planetlang
@Planetlang 3 ай бұрын
FYI - I have gotten a blue label for one smal piece of tape. i have gotten a blue label 9.4 for a detached staple from the cover. I have gotten a purple label for one small dab of glue inside of an FF 48 that i missed. so any glue seems to be restored, but not tape. Of course i have not read their CGC grading guide so who knows if this small sample even proves anything.
@charliedogg7683
@charliedogg7683 3 ай бұрын
Another fun and informative show guys. Good to see #1 of the future Mrs. Ka-Zar's first solo title highlighted. The way Shanna holds the spear is viable if she uses it as a stabbing weapon rather than as a throwing weapon. Holding the end of the shaft allows her to transfer more force into its action (yes, I'm still talking about the spear). The Daleks have been upgraded over the years and can now use anti-gravity to avoid hazards that used to stop them dead (like stairs!). DV8 #1 with the Dave Stevens cover is also an Adam Hughes cover: wowser, what a double! Stevens drew the primary image and Hughes did the reflection. And it looks gorgeous. You are quite correct John, "Millar" is pronounced the same as "Miller".
@leeniren3706
@leeniren3706 3 ай бұрын
Hi guys as always another great show. When you talk about purchasing slabs in a 9.8 with a first appearance for say $30 or less you have to remember that that $30 is probably going to be closer to 60.. You have to add your $18 for shipping plus your tax And there you go your $30 book it now $60. On another topic I was a vendor at my very first comic book expo and when you mentioned that dealers are desperate to Giselle books and get rid of them you’re not kidding. I had to pay $90 for the table and walked away with $300 in my pocket, I showed up at 7 AM to set up did not leave until 4 PM and must say it was a little bit less than enthusiastic.
@AnimeSoulSociety
@AnimeSoulSociety 2 ай бұрын
📝 noted being from Los Angeles show up before John…. I absolutely love all the comics you guys always share I have a giant to-do list of comics to buy and thank you so so much for broadening my comic tastes and always being so knowledgeable. Makes it so easy to love something when your guys passion shines through so bright. This community and show makes my whole day and gets me through my night shift job. 🙏🏼
@grumpy_goose
@grumpy_goose 3 ай бұрын
I just picked up a Bad Planet #6 in December. It's about a 9.4-9.6 that has the possibility to be pressed to a 9.8. Got it for a steal at $75 CAD. It's going to be in my next CBCS submission for sure!
@timothymarkin4481
@timothymarkin4481 3 ай бұрын
Back in the early 80s, I was hip to First Comics and bought every first issue they published at the time. I remember buying two copies of Grimjack 1 (as an investment). That and American Flagg were two series I’d buy regularly (and I got that first issue signed by John Ostrander in the 90s). A couple years back, Warp #5 was super-hot because of a cameo appearance that pre-dated his official debut in Starslayer 10. There were also two squarebound issues of Munden’s Bar published, featuring a multitude of creators. Id imagine those are cheap and easy to find on eBay. Still have mine and haven’t been able to force myself to get rid of them when I’ve done an infrequent culling of unwanted back issues.
@dansxmencomics
@dansxmencomics 3 ай бұрын
Great show as always! I think it’s most likely the tape on Ariel’s X-Men 50 is there to fix a top staple detached from the cover. If that’s true CGC should treat it as just a top staple detached, topping the grade around 7.0 and bump it down another spot for the tape reattachment. It should still get a blue label. It would only be considered restoration if glue or rice paper were used to cover it up… At least that’s my interpretation from the CGC guide to grading book.
@briantidwell234
@briantidwell234 3 ай бұрын
BP #6 was published posthumously, the first book to be done so with a DS cover.
@oliverortiz8507
@oliverortiz8507 3 ай бұрын
This was another fun show. That Monkees #3 is the issue I currently have of one of my favorite musical groups and I plan to get more. I also thought it was pronounced Mill-ar. A great writer either way. Thanks for mentioning Dave Stevens books. I did not know about DV-8 and have added it to my wish list. I enjoy your show and look forward to more in the future.
@VolkswagenGamer
@VolkswagenGamer 3 ай бұрын
Hey guys! I enjoy the show each and every week and appreciate both of your commentary as experienced collectors in this hobby. I had found a copy of ASM #19 coverless at my LCS last week, I ended up buying it for $20. A low grade copy is around $100. I'm not sure how coverless comics are typically priced. How do you guys gauge whether you are getting a good deal on a coverless (very low grade) comic or not?
@jabezcreed
@jabezcreed 3 ай бұрын
7:49 I didn't watch it, but major Saltburn vibes.
@grownassedgamergamer807
@grownassedgamergamer807 3 ай бұрын
I always pronounced it Millar as well Richard. I wonder if Pulp Fiction in Long Beach is connected to the Pulp Fiction in Culver City. I live in Southern California as well and have never been to House of Secret. Have to check them out.
@xboxgamer3389
@xboxgamer3389 3 ай бұрын
I feel for that customer I don’t know how anyone looked at that book and said ya that’s ready to be sent back Hopefully we get an update if CGC made it right I’ve been getting the magnetic comic holders they’ve got UV blocking and they’re nice for books like that Kitty Pride cover where it’s not worth sending for grading but you want to protect and display it I didn’t know you could order directly from Archie that’s a really cool variant cover
@DocReasonable
@DocReasonable 3 ай бұрын
Sadly, it's just 'The Monkee' now... only Mickey Dolenz still standing.
@fjleone2169
@fjleone2169 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for everything you guys do.
@glennsimpson_aka_bobbysaccaro
@glennsimpson_aka_bobbysaccaro 3 ай бұрын
I had a friend in college who loved Grimjack - he wanted us to call him Grim-Mike.
@skytripa
@skytripa 3 ай бұрын
I've been looking to get a good copy of Dr. Who and the Daleks. Your copy looks great!
@markleneker9923
@markleneker9923 3 ай бұрын
One wonders of all the licensing opportunities Dell could've pursued after separating from Western Publishing. Imagine the '60s TOHO Godzilla and other kaiju movies...
@jemairemungin3156
@jemairemungin3156 3 ай бұрын
“Long box furniture”🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@01flord
@01flord 3 ай бұрын
It’s Mill-AR.
@ricbeau3761
@ricbeau3761 3 ай бұрын
Cgc quality control is like the yeti. Many people heard of it but no body actually saw it . 😊
@Jondoe297.
@Jondoe297. 3 ай бұрын
Dosnt CGC image all the books now. Wonder how it looks in the image on their verification site if you look up the cert number.
@the4deadlyvenoms
@the4deadlyvenoms 3 ай бұрын
Another great show John and Richard! 🫡 In reference to the Marauders #3 book Richard showed, it’s technically not considered a negative space variant like John referenced. The negative space variants are done mostly by John Tyler Christopher….The Wolverine #1 and Civil War II #1 (Iron Man) that John spoke of are done by John Tyler Christopher or JTC. John was correct, the Wolverine in a 9.8 fetches around $400. JTC has about 30 of them, I’m trying to collect them all.
@CommonComicCovers
@CommonComicCovers 3 ай бұрын
That's a beautiful cover!
@J_Eusebio
@J_Eusebio 3 ай бұрын
With all the BS going on at CGC, what would yall recommend doing with the 1st appearance of Hobgoblin Mark Jeweler Variant with Tattooz? TY
@revoltpuppy
@revoltpuppy 3 ай бұрын
CBCS if you don't want to use CGC. CGC if you still want to get the best possible value out of the slab… unless they fuck it up.
@J_Eusebio
@J_Eusebio 3 ай бұрын
@@revoltpuppy Yea, I hate that they are still at the top as far as slab value
@briantidwell234
@briantidwell234 3 ай бұрын
CBCS all the way
@revoltpuppy
@revoltpuppy 3 ай бұрын
Mark Millar is pronounced like Miller, not like Mill-arrr. Source: Mark Millar.
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