Chain Gang Cyclists Brunch Ride: is Elitism Still a Thing in Cycling?

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Federico Ciampella

Federico Ciampella

Күн бұрын

I joined the monthly brunch ride arranged by Chain Gang Cyclists and there is also an occasion to talk about inclusion and elitism in cycling.
Communities like CGC and Moloko Cycling focus more on integration and it seems a positive move for our sport.
As usual I’m wearing a kit courtesy of Siroko Cycling, if you wish to shop you can use my direct link for an automatic extra 10% discount applied to the already reduced prices. No need for other codes, thank you!
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Thank you for watching,
Federico

Пікірлер: 64
@joshhaibike1365
@joshhaibike1365 Жыл бұрын
I’ve met all sorts of different people through cycling including making some really good friends, there’s alway elements in every sport, find what suits you and stick with it
@brandiantonio3618
@brandiantonio3618 Жыл бұрын
Ciao Federico, I like your videos very much! It's crazy how much traffic you Guys have in London and in the Parks.😲 Keep it up 👍 Cordiali saluti Federico dalla bellissima Svizzera 😀
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Grazie mille!!
@davidgeorge9233
@davidgeorge9233 Жыл бұрын
The eliteism really is a thing, I find that those people are often extremely insecure though and this can be clearly seen through their comments and actions on and off the bike.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I know, I really hope it's going to get better
@richardseverin8707
@richardseverin8707 Жыл бұрын
Great video Fede I’ve seen CgC out on the roads whilst I’ve been at work. I was very envious 😂. It’s so good to a group that is absolutely diverse and that is what cycling should be about . Cycling is very snobbish Fede you just have see some of the peeps at the Bun in Windsor looking down their noses at some of the bikes that roll in for coffee. Sometimes people for get it’s the person who powers the bike . That’s why I’ve given some people a good hiding on my 2015 Specialized Allez 😂😂😂😂. ( my only rim brake bike ) you did well to resist the urge to chase cyclists well done Fede 😂😂. As for that Dynamo guy well he should be ashamed of himself!! Keep up the good work my man 💪🏾👍🏽
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I have a couple of good friends at Dynamo, but definitely that move was a bit too close. I like dressing up for cycling and I care for my bikes, but it should not mean looking down on anyone. I feel it's getting better
@alexcollins5150
@alexcollins5150 Жыл бұрын
Lovely view into London cycling scene. Love your attitude and ethos Federico. 🇮🇹 Cycling in London makes me sad for the lack of variety. Would love to see you explore Cotswolds Peak District Wales Lake District or Dales. It would be great content and you would think you are in velo heaven ❤
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I would love to have more time to explore other beautiful areas!!
@TexasNightRider
@TexasNightRider 10 ай бұрын
Very beneficial video to new and established cyclists.
@jestag2
@jestag2 Жыл бұрын
The best way to eliminate eliteism in cycling is to avoid talking about 'the bike' or 'the kit' during the ride. Reserve that in the coffee shop. There is a ton of things to talk about in life than those triangles with two wheels underneath you both while exerting effort forward towards your common destination.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
But I so love talking about bikes!! And I like a nice kit! I can say I am Italian as an excuse??
@jestag2
@jestag2 Жыл бұрын
@@fede1275 Off the bike, yes. During the ride, a nicer conversation could probably be about the Italians' love for pizza, or flowers.... or something. Think of it like when you're in a Ferrari at a stop light, then the driver next to you says "nice car!", your best response would likely be a grin and the right foot on the pedal as the light turns green. Eliteism!
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
@@jestag2 I'll work on my response when I'm in my Ferrari then 😂
@carlbryan2227
@carlbryan2227 Жыл бұрын
Nice video your right all about cycling together having fun 🇯🇲🤛🏿🙏🏿
@fucktheworld1207
@fucktheworld1207 Жыл бұрын
There will always be cycling snobs 😜 and those who design the cycling infrastructures for us, probably haven't rode bikes since they were teenagers 🤔
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it feels like it!
@Stevie_insta_g
@Stevie_insta_g Жыл бұрын
Great watch Fed! If you haven’t had your food snatched from a bird at Richmond park have you even been to Richmond park! CGC family 🫶🏽
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Very true 😂 😂
@goonzjav
@goonzjav Жыл бұрын
Some of the newer groups are much more inclusive and lot less elite. The older standing groups probably do still have a bit of elitism around.
@stevedouglas3975
@stevedouglas3975 Жыл бұрын
I've never been so only going on videos I've seen including this one but Richmond Park looks really nice to ride in but the sheer number of cyclists is crazy and would really put me off. Maybe because it's a Saturday it's so busy so perhaps mid week quieter but that looks awful. As for elitism, it definitely exists in cycling as it does in most sports I think. I've heard anecdotally that London Dynamos are particularly bad. Only heard one side of story though. I'm fortunate to live and ride in Pembrokeshire that it's so quiet, there are cyclists here of course but a tiny number in comparison. Maybe in London so many go to Richmond as it's comparitively safe and quiet from traffic(?). As it happens, I'd welcome more cyclists here as I'm usually riding alone apart from a club ride on weekend. Anyway, another excellent and balanced video.
@stuartfreedman6854
@stuartfreedman6854 Жыл бұрын
Another fun video. Definitely 5:28 was what we in Canada call a "dick move".
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, it makes sense... LOL
@krisbowditch827
@krisbowditch827 Жыл бұрын
Those coffee cups are way too big. Less is more …expresso way to go 😁🇪🇺👌 lol .. coffee snob 😂😂😂 ..looked like a cracking day for a ride 😎 enjoy the summer mate 👍
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Summer is amazing here, just not too consistent!
@TexasWahoo_
@TexasWahoo_ Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely still a thing and bike shops can be the worst. We have a beautiful shop in my city which is owned by that guy who used to have a bunch of Tour de France victories. Twice I went against my principles by shopping there and twice the employee disappeared when he found out I'm not fast and didn't own expensive equipment. That's all it took for me to stay clear.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I can understand it can happen and it should not!
@WheelersAtLarge
@WheelersAtLarge Жыл бұрын
There's no elitism in cycling just the occasional elitists who usually lack any real substance (all the gear no idea types). I been told only once that there was a lot wrong with my bike because it's cheap but they couldn't back their words with ability on their super expensive bike. The cyclists we've met who are exceptional on a bike have been happy to ride as part of the group and go with the flow. I looked at cycling clubs but have never taken the plunge, thinking groups are far more relaxed. Sorry for the long comment but you did ask👍
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Riding ability is eventually a great leveller and reminder of what actually counts!
@CanyonWanderer
@CanyonWanderer Жыл бұрын
I feel like in cycling, most eliteism / snobism comes from perception. For instance I've noticed being greeted less by road cyclists when I'm in my Decathlon B'twin kit on my "mountain bike". The next day on my Carbon road bike in some Le Col kit and it is different. For me, I'm still the same guy 🙂. Before someone makes some elitist remarks on le col gear: I bought it because there was a discount 💰 due to a Strava achievement🎖
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I can understand, I guess in this case more than elitism would be some sort of road bike vs mountain bike group recognition. It would not be correct if you were on the same road bike and the different kit would generate different responses
@CanyonWanderer
@CanyonWanderer Жыл бұрын
@@fede1275 Yes, that makes sense indeed 👍,
@nicholascowen
@nicholascowen Жыл бұрын
I remember when my first road bike needed a wheel repair so I went to the local bike shop that has a club. The mechanic there and this happened to a friend with the same model bike, basically said whats the point of repairing that because it was a slightly older more affordable bike. This instantly put me off joining there club. In contrast when I took the same bike to the mechanic I use now he couldn't praise the bike enough, told me its a great bike and rides really nicely. I think the elitism comes from the person more then anything.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Sure, at the end of the day it is down to the person's attitude
@eddysobieralski8075
@eddysobieralski8075 Жыл бұрын
The very reason I never, ever ride in Richmond Park despite it being 'just down the road' - too many bloody cyclists! Is that reverse elitism or am I just a miserable old git? 🤣🤣🤣
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@dlbutler
@dlbutler Жыл бұрын
Those aren't mutually exclusive. -- Old Git
@rickh.9543
@rickh.9543 3 ай бұрын
Sorry I am late to the party everybody… just turn up to club rides on your single speed and watch everybody puff and blow changing down gears as you steam full gas up the hill…. 😂
@zedddddful
@zedddddful Жыл бұрын
what are those gates about absolutely ridiculous 😮
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Badly designed really
@gourami7
@gourami7 Жыл бұрын
Royal Parks are slowly squeezing the joy out of cycling...
@grahamriley8124
@grahamriley8124 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying riding a bike is the only criterion necessary to be an elite cyclist.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@brunospasta
@brunospasta Жыл бұрын
Imho these cycling communities are way more snobby than clubs.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
My experience with both Moloko and CGC has been really positive, haven't been in a traditional cycling club though
@johnlawrence8785
@johnlawrence8785 Жыл бұрын
At one point Federico, I thought I saw a wrinkle in your shirt, or perhaps a seam in your bibs was not perfectly straight, but then it could just have been a wayward whisker. Do not worry, I am sure no one else would have noticed.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
Noooo, it can't be 😂😂
@tongotongo3143
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
It cannot stop surprise me why people like sheep gather in groups just in order to ride their bike. Riding in groups is way more dangerous, but they wear a helmet:)… That said, your videos motivate me to grab my bike and ride:)
@rebinu
@rebinu Жыл бұрын
But is also more fun
@tongotongo3143
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t see any fun. Traffic isn’t about fun, it should be about concentration, rules and safety measures, and by safety measures I do not mean wearing a fucking helmet.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying both solo rides and group rides, both have their positive aspects
@rebinu
@rebinu Жыл бұрын
@@tongotongo3143 I guess you ride with bad groups then.. normally everyone will point+call out traffic and ride a little bit careful
@tongotongo3143
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
There are no good groups, all groups are dangerous for themselves or for other people. Good people are only solitary people.
@stevenking9283
@stevenking9283 Жыл бұрын
drivers must thing your going to turn right when your holding your go-pro out like that, at end of video
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I watched the video and it looks different from how it was, possibly the wide angle lens. Traffic was almost stationary anyway.
@bopndop2347
@bopndop2347 2 ай бұрын
Money makes the human behave a bit funny
@stevenking9283
@stevenking9283 Жыл бұрын
Think
@louismorel2001
@louismorel2001 4 күн бұрын
Dentist cycling!!!
@goonzjav
@goonzjav Жыл бұрын
So basically RP no good for cycling now, great.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
It's still one of the best places to ride, but they made some questionable decisions
@ikawpipa
@ikawpipa Жыл бұрын
You need to invite Transgender cyclists to be a more diverse group.
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I find myself more joining groups rather than inviting, I like to ride with everyone
@rheadonabike
@rheadonabike Жыл бұрын
Hiya Federico If you ever get some free time , I would love to show you some of the fantastic riding up here around Manchester ( Peaks , Cheshire etc ) You won’t be disappointed pal 👌🚴🏻 I’ve just had one of my pals up here from central London , and he loved it …. apart from the big climbs 😫🚵🏻‍♂️
@fede1275
@fede1275 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'll love it, just need to find some time!!
Great ride to Windsor with Moloko Cycling and a very special surprise for me!
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