FailRace style 😂

Yeah that was pretty painful. Better luck next time!

I'm glad my videos can be that for you!

I was pleased :D

depends on the incident ofc, but most are faster to just respawn, especially when you have a bunch of traffic behind you

Yeah but most people use common sense and go off the racing line

Yeah, nothing RBS could do about that, he was one of the victims there.

@@John_Hemingway there was no contact either so Lok just drove off by himself.

@@John_Hemingway RBS has since apologised for the poor recovery attempt which forced Lok off the road, as Lok was not expecting such an attempt. Callout valid

@@DiNmiTeNo one at fault in my opinion, without seeing Loks line fully I think there would of been an opportunity to go wide rather then cut inside

​@@danielevans3137Definitely room on the left of the track, which would have been the racing line out of the first turn; so choosing to dodge right seems like an incredibly odd choice.

That is a fun fact! Thanks!

260 actually.

an easier solution is to not host 32player randoms on such a single file track ;)

@@DiNmiTe fair point lol

Where was I supposed to go? I gave him the whole width of the track

chomprock's car was ahead at the apex (and would have been further ahead if not for a slight lag tap) so generally has a claim to the space on the outside, that wasn't given with a minor error. i would say it was right to just let it go as a racing incident and continue on with the race

Where was I supposed to go? I gave him the whole width of the track

That wasn't a call out. Chomp was unnecessarily slow going into the corner, but he was alongside so he was entitled to a cars width of space, which Broughy didn't give

​@@rbs95unfortunately im often unnecessarily slow. It's a skill issue 😂

@@Chomp-Rock 😂😂😂😂

We do actually - cheburek

You don't need to be anyone special to join an online server They might not have racing experience

Also before anyone starts I understand the Lok didn't know what happened to RBS. That's why I say it's unfair, but the game is the game. It happens. Not saying it's a bad call, but an unlucky one.

@@Darkeklaw To be fair Lok called me out because I forced him off the track when I turned around to get going again. It was a misjudgement by me but I wasn't paying attention properly because I was just frustrated at being taken out. Looking at the car selections me and Lok got for the last two laps he'd have almost certainly taken the lead before the end anyway, but it was a shame it had to end like that.

agreed. i don't think rbs should have been forced to wait there. unfortunate situation for both him and lok, but ultimately a 3rd party's fault.

but you didn't force him off, you never touched him he made a judgement and it was the wrong one, if people can call out others based on their own poor judgement then what is the point?

@@Dirpitz you don't need to make contact to force someone off, it was a bad rejoin from me. I should be respawning in that situation or at least staying stationary until Lok had passed me, but I was just desperate to get going again

Don't reverse across the track in front of people next time, and you won't be binned. You really only have yourself to blame.

@mildrloll6024 It was a joke. We were through this already. 🙈

​@@PinkSheep01They do like real Racing If say Stroll reversed in front of say Lando Norris, Alex Albon and others the Stewards would want a word. There going 200MPH and ay expecting it neither is anyone here expecting you to reverse backwards

@@lorddarlo6194 I know how it works. I've been involved long enough to know how it works. It was discussed at the time. It wasn't as it seemed. We moved on. This post was in jest.

Nar that would be lame imo. I respect your opinion man.

I think they would have more consistent closer races and that would work for when just gaming and not creating content, but as a viewer wouldnt be as enjoyable. just like most dont watch a race to see the drivers turn, they watch it to see the crashes. cheers.

that wouldnt be called a race then... its a time trial if theres no collisions.

I disagree, a big part of the enjoyment of racing is sharing the track with other cars, for better or worse.

Collisions are generally fine... up to a certain ping threshold...

I knew this would happen lol. I've spoken to rbs personally and he even said in another comment he completely understands, but alas the comments have a problem. The racing etiquette after an incident is to either respawn, or stay still until the track is clear to recover. I went to drive around him assuming he would stay still but he accelerated which left me with nowhere to go. I tried my best to avoid him rather than just punting right into him so the fact there was no contact doesn't really apply. I understand its frustrating trust me I would have much rather have gotten the position naturally but these things happen. Like I said I spoke with rbs and he was understanding and its also understandable why he accelerated, we're all human if I was in the same position I might have done it too.

RBS could also have not tried to rejoin in that way, which he has since apologised for. Lok did not slow down since he was not expecting a bad rejoin

@@lok8323 he made no contact, you had the choice left or right, you chose wrong and instead of braking accelerated, rbs was spun by another driver, you went off by yourself

Disagree with this 100%, let's not slander Lok please. There doesn't need to be contact to force someone off the track. I've elaborated on this more in another comment thread on this video which you can find if you like, but I already knew this was call out worthy as it happened (you can literally see me not accelerate fully into the next corner immediately after the incident, before Lok types in chat). This is pretty standard if you're familiar with real motorsports, but when a car is stationary on track, the approaching car has to pick a side to overtake on. There was more space on the right, so it makes sense why Lok chose right. However, at that moment I choose to try and spin around to get going again, which squeezes Lok up to the edge of the track and leaves him no space. Lok is expecting me to stay stationary (which is correct) but I didn't. There's no contact because Lok is forced to avoid contact. It's a bad rejoin from me. This is a clear example of why you're *meant* to stay stationary until it's clear, or respawn, because it avoids the guessing and miscommunication which can inevitably result in incidents like this. Unfortunately in my frustration at just being taken out, I misjudged it. As I've mentioned elsewhere, its largely irrelevant because Lok had better cars than me for the last two laps so he'd have likely won regardless.

It's amazing to me that such an obvious and reasonable callout and subsequent wait, which both parties agree was an obvious and reasonable callout and subsequent wait, sparks so much discussion. It's perfectly reasonable for Lok to move right to avoid the massive hulking truck reversing backwards onto the racing line while recovering from being spun around. At the time he had to make that decision to go left or right that's exactly what RBS was doing: reversing. At that point there's nothing he can do when RBS then stops abruptly and accelerates quickly into the path that has already been chosen. There's literally no time to do anything different. RBS, as he has said himself, should've either stopped and assessed the situation before moving, or respawned. So it was a completely valid callout. What makes this whole discussion even more silly is that the incident didn't even affect the outcome of the race. I'm so sick of the anti-Lok/anti-Mild/anti-being-a-good-driver bias and hate in comments on these videos. It's completely unwarranted and unfair on regular people just having fun with their racing.

It's amazing to me that such an obvious and reasonable callout and subsequent wait, which both parties agree was an obvious and reasonable callout and subsequent wait, sparks so much discussion. It's perfectly reasonable for Lok to move right to avoid the massive hulking truck reversing backwards onto the racing line while recovering from being spun around. At the time he had to make that decision to go left or right that's exactly what RBS was doing: reversing. At that point there's nothing he can do when RBS then stops abruptly and accelerates quickly into the path that has already been chosen. There's literally no time to do anything different. RBS, as he has said himself, should've either stopped and assessed the situation before moving, or respawned. So it was a completely valid callout. What makes this whole discussion even more silly is that the incident didn't even affect the outcome of the race. I'm so sick of the anti-Lok/anti-Mild/anti-being-a-good-driver bias and hate in comments on these videos. It's completely unwarranted and unfair on regular people just having fun with their racing.

@@broughy1322 Given you added a segment focusing on the incident in question, it's going to bring in r/simracingstewards sort of comments. For me, my confusion comes in why the decision was made to change entirely over to the other side of the track away from the racing line you would take from the exit of Turn 1; especially since I believe that people are not stupid enough to deliberately reverse a large vehicle onto said racing line (the reversing in question we hear with the beeping sound in my eyes is an instinctual reaction to jam on the brakes to stop the vehicle - unfortunately since GTA has the same input for brake and reverse, it occasionally messes up). Secondary to that is that there always seems to be a subset of players who call out *everything* that happens however minor. This combined with the fact that the car which caused all the mess got away scot-free, it all just looks a bit of a kerfuffle.

@@TheChrisD He moved over to the other side of the track because that's where the most space was when I was stationary. Lok is expecting me to stay stationary, so he's gone for the side with the most space which just happens to be where I drove into. There wasn't a lot of room on the racing line, so it's completely understandable that he's chosen to go for the opposite side. I was going to call out nightingery who took me out but a) I was too frustrated to bother, my race had already been ruined and b) they ended up crashing after the next corner anyway - you see me pass them before I pull over to wait for Lok. I do see your point on some people using callouts more than others generally though. I personally let a lot of things go without calling out unless it's particularly egregious, but if the roles were reversed here I'm pretty sure I'd have called out too.