I love this about amateur radio; experiment and prove out what works best in your use case. Everything affects everything especially when it comes to ground radials and your surrounding environment.

Thanks for the view and comment...lots more to come!

Just got my hands on a Maddog coil a few weeks ago; really cool gear.

The results were quite impressive. The advantage of course is the SS17 is the mast...who knew.

Spot on, I'll be covering the TDL next week.

Thanks for the input. Lazy L about sums it up; sloping inverted V sounds like I know what I'm talking about : ). Adjustments to wire length may do exactly what you say; fun to experiment with.

Thanks for watching; more options to come.

By the way, I'm on the Space Coast.

That is a fantastic idea, thanks for sharing!

Oh to have a machine shop at your fingertips!!

@HOAHamRadio well, consumer level stuff, but yeah, it's convenient, and I like the challenge of making the antennas myself, it's half the fun of being a ham!

Thanks for the view, comment, and support as always; much appreciated.

LOL, I hear you. My fist TDL install I felt that way. I've become comfortable with flexing that SS17; haven't busted one yet, but know doubt you could if you were careless.

I left the counterpoise in place, just added the 60' sloper with the clip.

Using the SS17 only you would be modifying the length of the whip for different bands; with the Micro, you can leave the length the same and do quick band changing...that's the benefit.

They’re in the user guides. A link of user guide is provided at the bottom of each product page.

@@Chameleon_Antenna Thank you. I see there are now more user guides online than I saw a month ago when I got my MPAS 2.0. Keep up the great work!

Agreed. Since everything affects everything, it would be interesting to see how soil conditions from the Tampa Bay area to a desert would come into play.

Was my pleasure and I'll keep em coming.

Yes, an elevated MPAS Lite with hanging counterpoise should work. Lots of mounts out there to choose from; you'll have to find something that works specific for your deck options.

Thanks Bill. The only tuner I've used so far is the URT1 in the shack (not really meant to be portable, or at least not pocket portable). I just picked up an Elecraft T1 and will give that a try in the next few weeks (who am I kidding, it will be months before I get to it...so many videos to get done first)

@@HOAHamRadio thanks for the quick reply Bob. I want to get the FX-4CR but with a small portable tuner. I would like to take it to the beach in Maryland this summer and use my CHA MPAS lite vertical configuration like you demonstrated in your video..

I have friends who make stuff for me : ) Any amateur wanting to try this would need to make their own lite weight wire with a loop and clip.

Cleanup your whip really well with some WD40 before and after long outdoor exposure. Now the SWR issue on 40M is not a real issue. Try to play with different counterpoise length, elevation and make sure your coax cable is well deployed and it doesn’t have loop into it.

Edit: I took a snip-it from the video so I could have a temporary copy. I will play this weekend. Thanks Bob!

That's what tuners are for; I too take this lazy approach quite often. The charts are located in the "User Guide". Near the bottom of each of their product pages, you will see "User Guide" in red letters.

@@HOAHamRadio follow up on comments - My paper copy did not have lengths as mentioned, however when I searched online and found the manual there it was as you mentioned. I tried out the different lengths at US-10607 but did not notice huge difference. Thanks again!

I know they have a large quantity of SS17 whips in production; I expect they'll be back in stock soon. I may have to give this idea a try; it will be low to the ground, but hey, who knows.

@@HOAHamRadio I saw where one ham put the tactical delta loop on a CHA Porta Mast. It was impressive. I’m considering the same

@@devinhedge : ) yep that is an impressive looking antenna. I'll have a video next Thursday on this very subject. Hang tight.

The product will be UP on our website today (Friday, May 24th - 2024) under the WIRE TAB.

Search for CHA LZ SLOPER WIRE (60')

Love the name!

Concern understood. My wire was a prototype and I now have the production length in my possession; hoping to get a chance to compare if there is a weight difference.

@@HOAHamRadio As soon as you can Bob please ...

The wire with the MPAS Lite is 16 gauge and too heavy to pull this off; the 26 gauge wire / clip was custom made and not currently for sale. The parts are out there for anyone to buy and home brew if wanted.

We will start offering it - pretty soon!

Its live on their site now: chameleonantenna.com/shop-here/ols/products/cha-lz-sloper-wire-60

Yes - pretty soon we will offer the PTFE Braided Kevlar as wire choice!

@ppfd, the longest part of the Lite is the whip at just under 24"; the longest part of the 2.0 is the extension, at just under 29". Both are great kits, but if I could only have one, I'd choose the MPAS 2.0, then add a SS-17 in the future (then you would have a Lite too). No plans on a comparison currently, the video schedule is booked 6 months out. The 2.0 will get performance over a broader range of bands...it covers the same bands as the Lite plus you'll get some 40 meters on it an an occasional 80. The small radio I was showing is a unicorn...hard to get. Its a FX-4CR made by a single individual in China. Be careful about buying from anyone other than him directly, others have cloned his radio. Long backlog of orders. His website is bg2fx.com.

Hey Bob, would your homebrew counterpoise kit work on the lite? I just realized when I went to order the lite, it didn’t come with the wire for the CP

@@ppfd Sure would. Attach the alligator clip to the the SO-239 where is screws on to the Micro or Mini and you are good to go.