The community appreciates you for calling out dealerships that pull shit like this!

I ordered my M5 CS in August of 21 with the promise that it would be at MSRP from a local dealership that I have purchased two prior cars from in the past. They took my deposit and the car finally came in in March of 22 and they tell me the market has changed and the car will be 50K over but they will sell it to me for 25K over as a courtesy. Took my deposit back and went off on the GM and told him I will take up a billboard above the dealership with that 25K exposing their shady business practice. Got a call 4 hours later to come take the car at MSRP. Obviously I will never do business with them again. They will learn the hard way when the economy is not in their favor.

I absolutely despise most car dealerships. Unfortunately it’s part of the game so there’s no getting around them. However, it blows my mind that a dealership would even attempt this type of extortion, especially with high net worth clientele. F these guys. Thanks for the great video and for exposing these scumbags.

I really appreciate calling out such disappointing dealers behaviors. Thank you for your honest content!

Appreciate you for always looking out for us and calling out scumbag dealerships like these man.

I am following you for a while and I appreciate your honest videos. I am car enthusiast myself and purchased ( and lost lot of money on cars) many cars in the past. Dealers tactics are one of the worse and making car experience buying as one most stressful. Every time I buy a car - I am fighting with them especially at Finance manager office. Last deal I told her that I will take just a GAP insurance ( because I feel bad for them- not like I need it because I never wreck the car) - she mislead me and put over $7000 in some BS warranties - next day I went back to a dealership and have them all that voided. Sounds like sales person who was trying to sell you car was same nationality as I am - I am so sorry that he gave you hard time! I guess there are some bad apples in all races and nationalities. I purchased Porsche ( nothing to brag about - Macan ha ha ha ) at Orlando Porsche and my experience was great . I think this all falls into a salesperson. In addition - he probably was not a car guy - because other wise he would know who are you.

It’s awesome to have you let us know about the scams you encounter during your high dollar transactions, no else really does this about these high dollar dealers. Awesome video PJ!

Thank you for your insight and this video explaining how champion porsche treats their customers. I talked to a salesman there and configured a 2023 porsche 992gts ,now I see why I haven't received a call and I'm glad I didn't

They tried to sell me a used 2016 GT3 RS for 325k back in 2017.. total dirtbags Porsche needs to clean up its dealer network.

Thanks for making this video. I’ve been by this dealership. They look nice on the outside but clearly shady af on the inside. Keep up the great work PJ.

The $2670 was for a plus 1 maintenance plan. Plus 1 means you get an additional service at year 2. They weren’t charging you for the complimentary service that Porsche gives you at year 1. With that said, it is illegal to say someone has to purchase the plan. It is completely optional. Crazy part is, the markup on that plan is only $130. Sounds like they wanted you to walk away. Probably had a buyer willing to pay more.

Wow, thank you for sharing this information 🙏

Some veteran car salesmen advised that whenever they offer those additionals, ask them where it says in contact that they have the right to make customer pay for them. State laws prohibits dealerships to force customers to pay additional cost when they have declined to pay.

The customer is the one with the money. They try to fool us by making the buyer feel desperate for the allocation, but eventually that game will die out. Specifically, when the customer realizes they've been ripped off.

Based on my experience in the automotive industry, I would blame the finance manager more than anyone, Any salesperson would just want to sell the car and move onto the next one, But additional add ons are backend profit for the finance dept. since they make literally $0.00 on cash deals. So they decided to throw the salesperson on the frontline to tell you this instead of them calling you to explain why they need to add this prepaid package, which is completely unprofessional, As a salesperson i've lost so many deals from genuine customers like yourself because of that reason, Also being a messenger between a finance manager and a customer causes miscommunication, You should at least get a call from management for such a high ticket inquiry, Unfortunately those managers got their positions based on how much they sold and not their leadership skills, And that's how the car business is sadly. I look forward to seeing you getting one soon, Good luck!!

The car dealership model is the problem, I don't know how many times I've sat down to buy a car and then got into an argument when it was time to sign the paperwork. Cars are so complicated now even a Toyota Carolla is an exotic.

Dangggg. Your info is so spot on. Thanks for the vid. 🙏

I had the similar problem with Napleton Porsche….unbelievable I swear. Signed the paperwork gave deposit, we agreed on the 20k mark up (whatever) car arrived I was asked to pay 75k over …. Told them to F them selfs and walked away. Asked my attorneys to call for the deposit back and deal with the breach of contract. Guys honestly don’t be afraid to walk away, if say 5 of us walk away from that 75k marked up car they won’t have any other option but to sell it to us at cost. I genuinely can’t stand them, don’t understand why Porsche is allowing this Nigerian Princ type of scam to go on and keep loosing great customers.

Amazing the level this dealership has gone to. You would think Porsche is above this type of scam. Thanks for calling them out and sharing the info. Good luck getting the car elsewhere!

First Just want to really thank you for sharing this info to all of us and giving us the full story detail, I really appreciate it. I got scammed 18k for not reading the contract I just assumed everting was ok till I signed and found out what I was really paying for too late for me so like you said read the contract in full before you sign.

Brilliant, insightful, informative presentation. A friend of mine just fell victim to this sort of scam on a 2018 Targa!

As an ignorant in the dealers/cars industry, I never got to understand why this type of behavior is either not regulated or not more actively followed by regulators. Not a fan of excessive regulation, or regulation at all, but finding this type of scams AND the dealers being able to operate just as nothing happened is kinda laughable.

Love this! I bought 2. cars from these guys 2 years ago one of them being a GT3 RS . They pulled all this same crap which is how I found this video after I googled this. I figured I was not the first. Way better dealers to work with

It’s just a matter of time before dealerships are groveling for our business again

i had a question not related to this. How come companies let u buy cars as new from then like spec them out etc since u basically buy and flip em eventually isn’t their whole goal to sell it to people who will at least keep it for a long time even if they don’t really drive it much?

Good video. I've done business with the collection in the Gables and seem to be pretty upfront with their customers. Gio the finance mgr for Porsche is a stand up guy.

Report this to the State AG, so they can’t keep doing it to other people

This is why I absolutely refuse to buy a car right now.

PJ, can you please do a vid on why it matters to a dealer where anyone would choose to register a car? It's not like the dealer is the one missing out on any potential tax revenue. I don't understand why the dealer wants to tell a buyer where they can register. I am familiar with the Montana auto trust options but its still none of a car dealers business.

Yea that sucks. Tried to but there in the past. Always some crap they come up with at the closing table Similar just happened to me at Vista

What’s your go to instead? Up at Braman? Or is there a Miami Porsche down south

Yes, I had similar incident like this at Porsche next to my house, called loeber Porsche, I was also asking gt3 touring and he was charging $155k over the sticker which was $195k, the rudest sales man ever name Dave, charging 80 to 90% over sticker, I would have picked two Porsches instead of one at that cost. I did call the Porsche headquarters in Atlanta and told em about the whole situation, but they said we don’t get involved in the price. Ridiculous!

What would you suggest is the best way to buy a new Targa 4S Neo Ruby Star Red vehicle? Am I able to set up an appt. at the Porsche dealership in Germany, build the car there & pay them & then have it shipped to me (my home) once it’s in the US - not a dealership? Thank you.

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"Thankfully im Rich" im puting that on a T Shirt legend

only a GENIUS could try to swindle an extra $3k after already securing $50k over on a car 😭😭😭 FROM A HIGH TICKET CUSTOMER ... it's like they're trying to shoot themselves in the foot

In the UK the porsche salesman cream there pants when they tell you,NO you can't order a gt3rs,sad times,slam the door in your face.

Its weird you had that issue with Champion Porsche. I got mine at MSRP. But well I'm a regular and buy all my cars with them and always had the best experience.

Ive owned 2 porches there great cars but dealerships and overs are ruining the brand, almost no car is worth overs to buy and use.

3k only after they slapped him with a SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR MARKUP!!! You're already stealing 70k from someone, but it's never enough for these types of dealerships. Black Listed.

There is no, "It's only $3 grand". That's most people's mortgage payment for 3 months. That's a lot of money. It isn't just $3 grand. It's a breach of contract and a breach of trust. I would be livid if a car salesman pulled that on me. Why is a contract is a contract is a contract EXCEPT if it's a car dealership? We need to start suing these people.

The $2670 was put on, agreed to be taken off and then was put back on and told pay it or you don’t get the car……why is this so hard for everyone to understand that this is the issue and not the actual money? He made that very clear.

I believe the Maraj family purchased Champion in the 80s and turned it around, becoming the highest volume Porsche dealer. Sad to see their reputation declining with the continued shadiness. I loved going there as a kid to see my favorite cars.

yeah most dealers do that. when I bought a Merc, they had all kind of plans to add on to the price. I just said, no not necessary for me. All good for me. but yeah not to sell the car because you dont want a service plan....is terrible!!!

I love exotic cars, I would love to get into car sales, but unfortunately, every car dealership I look into, has terrible reviews.. so sad

I had bad experience with Miller Motorcars back in 2017. They happen to have a 720s customer ordered back out and said they sell it to me for msrp. I told them send me the app and card form to put down payment, guy sent it then didt charge it. He keep delaying then few days later tells me he has to sell it to me over msrp. Next the GM was out and took days to get a hold of, I get a call from the GM saying I didt think you could afford the car. I get Mclaren corporate on the phone they got the dealer to call me back and sell it to me for msrp but more bs they would not charge my card or pull credit. Then tell me sorry it's sold. It was crazy how all this happened when I had Mclaren of Philly being the best dealer i ever worked with, just at the time it was hard to get a 720. So end up with a 570GT at a big discount from philly.

I have had problems with both Champion and Porsche of West Broward. I no longer own a Porsche and will not buy one again.

So a $53k ADM on a GT3 Touring? This dealership is giving the car away compared to almost everyone else in the entire US right now and you trash them on youtube?

YO ! I BOUGHT A LAMBORGHI URUS FRO A PORSCHE DEALER AND THEY WERE GOOD TO BUY FROM BUT THEY WILL NOT REGISTER THE CAR!!!! JUST EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE! THEY EVEN GAVE ME ANOTHER TEMP PLATE FOR ANOTHER 2 MONTHS ( AND ALSO GETTING THE VIN WRONG ON THE 2ND TEMP PLATE). IS THIS DEALER HOLDING THE SALESTAX OR LEGITAMATELY HARD TO REGISTER THE CAR FROM MISSOURI TO CALIFORNIA? I BOUGHT THE CAR FROM MISOURI AND I AM CALIFORNIA. THANKS

Porsche West Broward are other clowns in the Porsche scene in Florida. What happened to Pej, is also known as "DEAL PACKING" and it's ILLEGAL. Don't bend over for this dealerships.

Porsche is a real success story with amazing vehicles. They need to own their own dealerships and be done with the scams. I love the brand but wouldn’t touch it for fear of this type of crap.

They were actually good with me. Took a fair trade on a GT3RS and sold me a 992 GT3. Good experience all around. I think I had a better salesperson…

I live in Palm Beach Florida, I would never deal with Champion Porsche, they play games and try slimy tactics all the time.

Agree 100% with you

Do you have a mechanic for Porsche in Florida? I

They value making a couple more grand over losing a rich client? Greed over brains

Ha h! Funny that they thought they would pull one over on PJ. He does this for a living better than they do. PJ is smarter than they are.

wow,yeah they're wrong for charging you $3k for something Porsche includes in the damn MSRP.if i was in that situation and i'm like ok fine i'll fly my ass to Stuttgart and get my damn car,even if they have to reorder my car and loose the down payment from the dealership(whatever it may be) I'd much rather deal with the manufacturer DIRECTLY than deal with these types. oddly enough i remember champion porsche racing and winning races in IMSA/SCCA/Rolex Daytona in 911's but I guess they were bad actors

I wish there was more push against the markups. My dream is to own a gt4rs and the only thing stopping me is the absurd markups it crushes me inside but I will keep waiting and saving I trust in Christ 🙏

Can’t you report this to the state as bait and switch?

Great informative video. Unbelievable, how they take advantage of absolutely everyone. That salesman is a classic Jack Ass !! Porsche Champion allowing this to happen, is even more alarming. Oh man. Cross another dealership off my list !!

If I had more than 1 car, it would be more possessions to keep track of. It doesn't appeal to me... Warren buffet

Wish I would see your video before 🤯

Basically an algo comment 💪

I won't be doing business with them. Thanks!

It doesn’t change the value of this story, but this was a local to you dealer. Why didn’t you go to dealer, find manager or owner and finalize. If it is a time equation, you spent days regardless.

Porsche doesn't want dealerships doing this!! ADM's are a NO NO!! I did purchase the service plan on mine. It transfers to the buyers.

They ruined my GT3 at their service department

The dude has a linkedin profile too

They made a guy buy a gt4rs off the floor to get the allocation for a gt3rs then the car got there and they got him with mark ups too. Champion porsche is grimey

Champion Porsche is the number one Porsche dealer in the east coast …. FYI

I'm not a Porsche fan but those GT3 Touring cars are pretty sick, especially if it's manual

What’s so special about the 992 GT3 Touring ? Why do you want to buy it new at MSRP and not used in mint condition with a few miles after it has hit its BCV? Isn’t it what you teach?

Pejman is a G for this

I’ll sell you mine lol My local dealer here in California charged me $50k ADM but they were upfront about it & never tried to pull any of the crap Champion did with you. I paid taxes on it obviously.

Champion has been the same thing for the last 30 years!

Basically

Porsche can fix this problem if they wanted. Porsche know what is going on. How about the Porsche USA selling a 2022 GT3 Touring to the Store Manager for invoice, only to have the Store manager drive the car for a few weeks and then sell it as "used" for significantly over invoice. Porsche co-signs the shenanigans. Look like they way want to take an alternative model of business in order to stay relevant. Word on the Autobahn is that Porsche is having some serious supply chain issues. It's also rumored they are going to start selling the GT cars directly instead of through the dealers. Payment in full. No more dealer scalping.

Soooooo…..hacks to buy exotic cars for $400-600 bucks…..but he is paying $50-60-70k over sticker? Sounds like an amazing hack to me. 😂

Buy in North Carolina I bought few from them durham

Exposed. 👏🤓

Champion..is a joke.. never buy from them... let them go under..

always trying to scam you....

Champion scammers oyevey

High end clients don't need special treatment they need a bag of shit in the glove box.

I put this video on and fell asleep… what a bore

Independent dealers >>>>

Funny how a lot of your deals go bad and the issue is always on the dealer side. We all know the mark up is absolutely crazy right now and you are doing the same with your cars, it’s the nature of the business but targeting the dealer and a sales person because you didn’t want to pay the 3k is just unfortunate. I purchase couple of cars with Mirek and just got a Turbo GT that will be delivered in 3 weeks and in my experience, Champion and Mirek were amazing. My experience and my opinion.

Champion is scumbags, never go there!

If you can’t afford it just say so. We don’t need this drawn out nonsense.

Definitely champion sucks. Always scamming. They will beg client to buy their cars soon at a 20% discount. Lol. No worries. Holman Motorcars is opening a Porsche dealership in north miami in 2 years. 😝

Scampion Porsche

Champion Porsche is shit, the money obviously isn’t the issue. It’s principle and just feeling like your getting shafted. That shouldn’t been the thought when picking up such a badass car, it should feel great. And not like shit… wouldn’t buy a damn thing from there ever… I’m rich, so I don’t really give a shit I’ll buy one somewhere else🤣🤣🤣🤜🏻🤛🏻 your awesome 🤘🏻🤘🏻

wow

Emotional Damage.

This is why rich ppl always try to f over the middle class guys ie: landscape, painters, plumbers, or handymen in general! Because they are willing to throw so much money at something that they're trying to get but still gets robbed by their money peers! But if that was guy working for them weekly charges for a extra tasks for $25-$100 they go crazy. So what it tells me is that ur rich buttttttt not important rich hahaha! 🤔 I still wish I had ur problems 😔 But how are u hacking anything and are willing to pay 55k over? Do u think these values are gonna hold? Nahhhhhh

And this is Indian owned I am so ashamed of murajs

I reverently traded in my new M3 for a used GT4 from Champion. The price was at market value, we negotiated and settled. I’ve been loving this car ever since. I still service my cars there and never had a issue. But honestly, all dealers lie. From Honda, to Porsche. I think complaining about an already known issue just doesn’t do anything.

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Change name to Champion Scammer