More people need to run support Pika, really underrated
@Scizor-Squad Жыл бұрын
For what it’s worth, I run it….
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely. It has dropped off in the meta. Bring back the exp share lane pikachu
@eternalspecter4511 Жыл бұрын
For the love of Timi, I don’t wanna see another pikachu in my lane
@marshiisisland9385 Жыл бұрын
Exp share amp slick spoon thunderbolt thunder is my fav pika build
@SylentCommotions Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy cus I’m finally climbing rank with pika. And I get mad when my team doesn’t let me support them. Like plz take exp. Let me die sometimes but get my damage or stun off so y’all can get away or clean up after
@seyproductions Жыл бұрын
Mmm, I have also been redefining roles in Unite, but I use a model that is closer to League's. What I find interesting is that you separate the Early-Midgame Melee monsters into Assassins and Glass Cannons, while I would simply consider them Slayers/Assassins. On the other hand, I would have separated the Ranged Offense into Mage and ADC, as for me they fulfill slightly different roles. The Mages are multi-faceted and tend to either have moves that deal burst damage and/or have CC (so Burst/Control Mages, Artillery Mages), or they deal sustained damage but also have some sustain/self healing (Battle Mages). ADCs are characterised by those that come online Lategame and sustained basic damage. However using the League system, there are some oddities, like Garchomp is a melee ADC but also doesnt do too bad early game. Azu is also an ADC with Aqua Tail but he functions more like an Assassin due to how his passive rewards single targetting. Regardless, Mages tend to have advantage over ADCs especially Early game, but struggle a bit more against Tanks, while ADCs are Tank killers. Which is why I prefer to separate them.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
These would be better detailed classes. I've tried to keep it simple but just more accurate!!
@Wasser_Saft Жыл бұрын
I also think adcs are better at ripping objectives than mages
@shawnlyons65434 ай бұрын
As a former league player, I also view them more in league terms. Pokemon can else be in different roles based on their moveset as well. For instance, I'd consider Charizard with the fire punch build more a diver whereas flamethrower is a ranged offender. It's unite move makes it a diver regardless though and that's kinda the best part about charizard.
@Joy_inc Жыл бұрын
I think this something we’ve been needing in the game forever
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
It's just clarity of understanding I think!
@moisesbernal1749 Жыл бұрын
I really like thia redefinition of the unite classes. But i think even within brawler theres so much variety in HOW these pokemon actually play. Mons like azumarrill aegislash qnd even tsareena I'd classify as divers (still brawlers ofc but with an emphasis on div8ng the backline qnd causing chaos as opposed to ttar or umbreon. In that respect, the LoL class distinctions are really useful when applied to unite, but this i feel is more simple to udnerstand
@agent3051 Жыл бұрын
Man. I’m over here as an Eldegoss main. Just got into Vet 5 after not having played for over a year and I have a decent enough friend group that we can 5 stack if we really want to. Being the Healer is really good because you control your team’s tempo.
@AceChampJames Жыл бұрын
Charizard's stats are similar to cinderace, dragapult, or greninja. It's for sure a ranged attacker.
@cloudstrifevii554 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing guide, I give it a 10/10. Even better because at the end you gave a guide playing as lucario and I've been looking for a lot of those lately haha good stuff man!
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the comment 😍😍
@Satseful Жыл бұрын
I would add class "Disrupter" and put Greedent and Sableye to there. Those are disrupting opponent focus and flow which gives room to other team. Those are not best in team fights, but disrupts opponent so they have harder time to prepare for those important fights. Anyway great video as always.
@user-yy1tb8bp7y19 күн бұрын
I really wish more people see this, it's so valuable to understand your role and what u should be doing.. thank you for the hard work you put into these videos 🥰
@shirafune Жыл бұрын
very well-put together video, the one thing i could see being added (although lacking in numbers) would definitely be the harasser/disrupter type class, with something like greedent and sableye. good luck on your grind trainers!
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yes true! A 'pest' class. Good point
@misspenguin1175 Жыл бұрын
Mean look umbreon would be healer/pest
@beanerb82211 ай бұрын
@@misspenguin1175I personally think mean look is more of a healer/support and less of a harasser. His moves feel pest like, but it just seems more support to me
@conorhilts5067 Жыл бұрын
i love this list of seven roles, but i also think that trevenant seems more of a brawler than a tank, having less HP, but higher dmg, and alot of built in healing
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
This is true
@shawnlyons65434 ай бұрын
Spin blastoise can also be seen as more of a Brawler which is why in competitive it sometimes is put in that top lane.
@Snewbew Жыл бұрын
I think its a bit weird to split the speedsters but not the attackers tbh. I feel like it would be better to look at how other MOBAs categorize their classes. In league legends for example all classes have subclasses and if we translate the subclasses from league to unite most pokemon do fit their class except for wiggly who plays more like a tank(warden) The classes in league are: *Controlers (supporters) -enchanter (healers) -catchers *Fighters (all-rounders) -Juggernauts (brawlers) -Divers (engage focused) *Mages (spell caster attackers) -burst (high damage combo) -battlemage (petal dance venusaur for example) -artilery (very long range) *Marksmen (basic attack attack damage attackers) *Slayers (speedsters) -skirmishers (extended fights) -assasins (burst damage) *Tanks (defender) -vanguard (brawler tanks) -Wardens (supportive tanks) *Specialist (doesnt fit any of the above, something like greedent)
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
That's true, there could probably be 'burst ranged' and 'auto attack range' instead of offense ranged to split them up!!
@micolalau Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the slow breakdown of the ray fight and the gameplay altogether. Please make more of these in detail why Im doing this videos. I love machamp but Im terrible with him
@martinbrandl2397 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your content. I love your explanations. I love the respect you show to other players. Thank you for your videos! It's just a shame that far too few players watch them. Do you use any other channels besides KZfaq? One question for one of your next videos maybe: you said that the Glass Cannons require a very high skill level, which is for sure. I guess it's not just about pushing the right buttons. What skills exactly do you think are needed? I can't wait to see more of your content.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 😍 i appreciate that. In terms of skill, it's about positioning, engaging time, aiming and hitting skills, understanding who you can and can't engage on etc. Zoroark is the perfect example
@martinbrandl2397 Жыл бұрын
@@UniteClimbing For sure. I would prioritize the decision of whether or not to engage and the exact timing. But I always wonder how to learn that. It could be a long period of trial and error 🤪
@auranecropolis2848 Жыл бұрын
I saw hoopa as a healer till now 😅 the mobility aspect of hoopa is also very strong but I see him as a healer cuz of the ability to portal the entire Team to full HP and reingage immediately after the entire HP is restored
@levirexjones5 ай бұрын
yoooo this video is awesome. where would u put some of the new pokemon? like blaziken for instance also; would love videos dedicated to each role. maybe describing builds per mon, early/mid/late game tips, and anything else u can think of. nintendo did a big promotion of this game on pokemon day so i think a lot of new players are showing up right about now; its how i found the game and i am absorbing EVERYTHING i can get my hands on. love your page; thanks for what you do 🤩
@Smoothvoperator Жыл бұрын
Great original idea 👏🏻 I would certainly move around a few on the classes And please do a continuation videos on how to play each role with explanation like the luca gameplay, it helps a lot of people that are mid in this game or are hardstuck But sadly all the good players knows what they are doing and the bad players didn’t watch this kind of informative videos
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
I'll keep on it! When they're ready to learn they can kind useful content like this!
@jakiru8783 Жыл бұрын
Fun out of the box informative video. Favorites in each of the roles; Brawler - Scizor/Urshifu Assassin - Zeraora/Machamp Tank - Snorlax/Lapras Ranged - Venusaur/Charizard Mage - Sylveon Cannon - Leafeon Healer - Umbreon(Wish)
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Wish Umbreon? Nice! I havent played with her much yet but keen to
@jakiru8783 Жыл бұрын
@@UniteClimbing It was tough playing it with Wish at first but I'm not a fan of Snarl so I eventually found I really liked it with Foul Play & Weight/Razor/Barrier in SoloQ which I think is close to one of the item sets you recommended. I like the extra versatility Barrier provides + further supporting teammates.
@GunmarTheBlack Жыл бұрын
I found a team comp I fell in love with once we got it down, E Speed Outrage Dragonite with Follow Me Moonlight Clefairy in bottom, Dragon Pulse Power Whip Goodra with Safeguard Soft-boiled Egg Blissey on top then Duraludon runnkng center, team foghts are AMAZING
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah that brawler and healer combo is scary tbh
@paulmyers258 Жыл бұрын
This guide helped shift my mindset and helped me get out of Ultra Solo-queue hell/into Masters for the first time. Thank you!
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
That makes me so happy to hear!! Well done mate 😍❤️🔥
@ilphaesn Жыл бұрын
i’m a buzzwole and zoro player my favorite activity is hunting the ranged attacker at ray xD
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Zoro is my nightmare at Ray when using these picks 😅😅
@Funbarillusion Жыл бұрын
Insanely good video! i don't agree in some of the mons, but the roles are for sure on point
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Always depending on the build 👌
@alfathebird6564 Жыл бұрын
It is kinda hard to place some pokemon because it has 2 choices. I would like to call alstoist rapid spin as brawler and surf as tank. Idk what hyperbeam dragonite should be at but outrage is definitely a brawler
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah 100% I have only assumed the most popular builds!
@SlashBurner Жыл бұрын
I also made a similar list focusing on the damage type of poke burst and sustain. Also having separation between mages and adc. As you stated this is based on the most popular build so i was confused to see greninja in the ranged offense as surf is an assassin. If you look at the movesets you will find that venu, scyther, cram, A9, lucario, bear, and dnite have different damage profiles and different roles and wish that there would be more specific discussion.
@peterholmes7440 Жыл бұрын
I think this is an amazing video, but I respectfully disagree on three points. 1. I think Sylveon works best as an in-between of a tank and an assassin when with Mystical Fire or as a ranged attacker with Hyper Voice. Aside from Hyper Voice, it doesn’t do much as far as support goes. Even then, I don’t think the SpD reduction of Hyper Voice is enough to justify it compared to the damage it deal. Its capability of running Exp Share as a pseudo supporter is simply a proof of how good Exp Share is on a mon that don’t need much Exp to attain it’s required power spikes. 2. I will keep my ground on this one. Venusaur is better used with Petal Blizzard and Giga Drain as a brawler. Abusing Giga Drain’s sustain and keeping close-mid range to keep brawling, even with your great range of basics and boosted attacks. 3. I would argue that Greedent, Sabeleye and possibly Crustle are an entirely other class, the “disrupter”. Their job is not to help your team, but to prevent the opponent from progressing by stealing their farm and abusing their traits to make big score at opportune moments. Having a Greedent main as a partner, I can say that Greedent is not here do defend its teammates but to annoy and distract the opposing team. Sabeleye works the same, but using stealth instead of bulk and mobility. For Crustle, it’s the combinaison of Shell Smash’s mobility and capacity to steal farm. Then again, Crustle is just so hard to accurately categorize imo. Dodrio is possibly a mix between a disrupter and a assassin, but lean more toward the assassin side.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on #1 - I think in my head I have classes the debuffing and exp potention into 'support' #2 - totally. Venu is an amazing brawler with this set. I do have a soft spot for beam (and it is currently the more popular pick) #3 - Yes. This is a great improvement I will consider when doing an update of this
@melbarrid9750 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is so unique! Keep uploading these useful videos!
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm trying to make sure I upload 3-4 times a week
@nickrobinson9629 Жыл бұрын
I must be a mage support kind of person, all my favourite Pokémon are in that category. I've tried playing other attackers and supports and wondered why they don't feel as good. This way of viewing roles really clears things up. Unite should hire you haha.
@sevhatake Жыл бұрын
Loved this definition, which they made an official update on this
@mitch.e2960 Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's another role Harassers: TalonFlame dodrio Sableye Crustle and Greedent The goal of these mons is to just annoy the enemy team while also getting vision for your twam, either by poking with Damage and getting out fast or by stealing enemy farm and getting out without dying.
@dimensionsazuma32 Жыл бұрын
Pokemon Unite is in Early beginnings. Yet they have first deal with kids in this game and second. roles needs some rework and balancing the matchmaking system of this game (and its monetization practises)
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah 100% - it is early days.
@aThoms101 Жыл бұрын
I think the ranged offense can be split into 2: auto attackers/rippers and burst da-Mage
@Roninrender Жыл бұрын
How dosent this video have more views
@cellarsshenanigans.3159 Жыл бұрын
I think there are two types of tanks "The forward scout" which gives vision ie lapras slowbro and "The protector" which actually protects your team ie snorlax trevanent.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah 100% - very overlapping roles though (I thought to keep it as simple as possible)
@Td--3.14 Жыл бұрын
Loved the the video and lucario gameplay too Would be cool if you do a mew gameplay too❤❤
@leokiyamu5875 Жыл бұрын
Venusaur Petal feels like a brawler, some moves can change the roles
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah I do mention this in the video I believe 👍
@leokiyamu5875 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I missed that
@purnimadhara7896 Жыл бұрын
Mime and wigglytuff is maze or tank pika is ranged offence or maze support
@AtomSmyth10 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@casoul993 Жыл бұрын
how exactly do you define a brawler actually? and especially do not include healers, how do brawlers actually work in a game?
@datzeusboi7784 Жыл бұрын
I see that some roles directly compliment others. Are there role combos you want to avoid? And are there direct counters that you should be weary of? I main Sylveon and mostly use Hyper Voice+Calm Mind because I don't get the same results with Mystic Fire+Drain Kiss.
@zhang67544 ай бұрын
whats the difference between glass cannon and assassin? why isnt gengar a glass cannon?
@StormySensei Жыл бұрын
14:50 if you had Meteor Mash'd the bunny into the bush, it would have been safe for you to take
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Thank you good point!
@itzik975 Жыл бұрын
in what world hoopa isn't in the healer role? its one of the top tier healers these days. imo mystical fire sylveon is kinda browler too. greedant is not really a tank, when i see it i don't excpect any frontline, its more of a brawler.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Hoopa fits so many roles (similar to Mew). I've put Sylveon in support because of the debuffing (which is the big benefit - other brawlers do it better). But defs a great brawler type pokemon and heaps of fun!!
@jd3266 Жыл бұрын
would you say rollout double slap wiggly is still a mage support?
@tisantoharjoinangun_ Жыл бұрын
nice 👍🏻
@casoul993 Жыл бұрын
Climbing guide: i need a suggestion. I just want to camp at goals and farm until ray spawns. Suggest me the best role to camp.
@Blue-mr7fe Жыл бұрын
umbreon completly unkilable in a 1v1 on goal, funny shinanigans with crustle rocktomb and stones(i like this the most), and lastly turret duraladon but anyone with burst or movement can get to you but he is quite the objective burner.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Ninetales with Viel and Gleam. Use a Muscle Band, Focus Band and Rapid Fire Scarf with 7 red emblems. Nobody will break it unless its a 3v1 with unites. I love this build. Remember to help with objectives at bot lane (probably just call bottom lane and stay there). Run an eject button. Good luck and play the ray fight carefully!!!
@casoul993 Жыл бұрын
@@UniteClimbing ok thank u
@testerfox6998 Жыл бұрын
they should add in sub-classes. That would be interesting
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
They really should. I highly agree
@warmbowski Жыл бұрын
what category for giga-dance venu would you think? Brawler?
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah brawler for sure!!
@froggomcfroggin9392 Жыл бұрын
i think blastoise and trev are brawler-tanks
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah depending on which build you pick!! Blastoise spin is a brawler. Surf blastoise is a tank 👍
@terrabro8734 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't eldegoss with the ranged attackers?
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
He probably could be!! I see elde as the best healer in the game though
@Joy_inc Жыл бұрын
I think the one nine tails should also be in mage support
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Ninetales has 2 sets! 1 is mage support and the other is ranged attacker
@imanironmoth Жыл бұрын
These days, healers have become more offensive. Do you support murdergoss?
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
It's a decent pick, but using it for support is best
@marshiisisland9385 Жыл бұрын
Wait is Scyther officially a speedster in unite? It has the stats, Scizor is way bulkier
@Blue-mr7fe Жыл бұрын
Depends which one your going for staying scyther is purely speedster and assasin based combat whil scizor has bulk but also has to ambush to get good engagements or has a chance to suffer getting CCed to death
@marshiisisland9385 Жыл бұрын
@@Blue-mr7fe no I’m aware of this it’s just I’ve never actually seen a unite license for Scyther so it was interesting seeing his background be blue rather than purple because he is essentially a speedster in unite (assassin role)
@jinji4609 Жыл бұрын
Yes Scyther had similar attack stats, bulk & playstyle with Talonflame, Zoroark actually
@marshiisisland9385 Жыл бұрын
@@jinji4609 yeah while Scizor is a pretty tanky brawler
@gm_sniper2368 Жыл бұрын
funny because i two shotted an snorlax with single strike urshifu lmao
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
SingleStrike is a scary assassin!!
@eds7343 Жыл бұрын
Nerf umbreon.
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
100% please
@archy8822 Жыл бұрын
I despise eldegoss. They always either don't do dmg (atk eldis) nor do they heal enough or on time. If u want to attack run a cinder, dragonite, dragapult or even a duralodon. And if u want to heal run a blisy a clafayble a comfey. God a mime heals more. Just don't pick eldy
@HamdzaHalil Жыл бұрын
Eldegoss is top winrate supporter, its second best supporter in game.
@shirafune Жыл бұрын
👆
@UniteClimbing Жыл бұрын
I can hear your point but I can't agree. You've had bad experiences with Elde. He is the best supporter in the game! Has had an above 50%wr since release.
@jakiru8783 Жыл бұрын
I can get that sentiment. Was so surprised when I learned its winrate despite that 😅 Gotta say its ultimate is so good though and I think thats a big part of its winrate (aside from being a healer that also consistently slows opponents) because you can steal so many objectives including Ray just from that move!
@ressyres35 Жыл бұрын
A pocket elde is extremely dangerous and can literally decide the outcome of a lane in my experience when I play them. Even more dangerous with a decent brawling laner by your side and you're rarely losing.