I don't understand that. IMO, Feedback means they are actually thinking about our problems. Which means they want to help us. If it's just encouragement, I honestly don't know what and how to say it without looking souless. Personally, I can feel better on my own, I would rather look for a solution and I take every possibilities I can gey. And if I heard that from others when I vent out feels like they are disinterested and empty.

That's the thing tho, people who say they're having a hard time needs to get positive affirmation and encouragement before getting feedback. Not everyone can cheer themselves up. If they ask for a feedback, that means they already managed to cheer themselves up and only ask for a feedback. At that point if the person that was asked for a feedback gives encouragement instead of a feedback it would feel empty. The way to give positive encouragement is to tell them it's not their fault and they did their best. Jiheon said to just agree with what she said and it honestly works. The point is to make the other person feels better first before giving the feedback. I agree with Chaeyoung the most. It's better to get both or either way because for me, what I needed the most is having someone to talk to bc it would cheer me up and I'll give my own feedback. Damn this was a long reply. Sorry if anyone had to read so much, have a great day :)

@@richardhartono1057 guess that's the difference between the rest and jiheon hayoung. Because the way i feel better is if the problem I'm currently having a hard time on, has a probable solution and if someone offered it. No matter how down i am when I vent out, if they give me a possible solution, I will feel so much better. While encouragement or being empathetic without real solution just fell flat (for me). Again, just giving a PoV and it's interesting to see how others see this debate. It's shows that no one thing is universally the same

@@sigasana441 Agreed. Everyone is unique and have their own way to think and feel when having a hard time and dealing with problems.

I totally agree with this. I share it because I want comfort and encouragement, I would've ask for feedback if i want. infp here

지헌이 말이 너무너무 공감됨…저 말을 굳이 왜 하겠어…

그래 나도 알고 있을 수 있는 부분이 거의 90% 이상인데 그 말을 듣고 싶은게 아니라 나는 힘들다는거에 위로받고 싶다고

이게 맞죠 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 저도 예전에 여자친구가 시간 갖자고 하고 연락 안될 때 친구들끼리 만나서 술 마시는데 무슨 모쏠에 여자한테 찝쩍거리다 친구 다 떨어져 나간 새끼가 니가 잘 못해줘서 그렇다는 둥 연락은 자주 했냐는 둥 자기였으면 알바 끝나고 찾아갔을 거라는 둥 개빡치게 심기 긁길래 적당히 하라고 시원하게 갈 박고 그날 이후로 얼굴 안보고 있어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 거기에 있던 다른 친구들은 위로 + 실질적인 도움(언제 어떻게 사과해야할지 등) 줘서 여자친구도 붙잡고 친구들이랑도 잘 지내고 있어요

너도 생각 할수 있는거??? 그런데 안하잖아. 너의 엄마가 하는 잔소리도 대부분 너도 알고 있는 거야. 너가 그런말을 하는 전제는 니가 나에 대해 멀알아. 라는 마음이 깔려 있는게 아닐까?? 엄마아빠는 나를 이해 못한다식의 어린애 사고 방식 아니야?? 충고나 잔소리가 듣기 싫은거지. 울면 젖이나 달라는 유아기적 발상 아닐까?? 누구나 어릴때는 너처럼 생각해. 어린애중에 충고나 잔소리 고마워 하는 사람이 없어. 내가 이장난감을 얼마나 가지고 싶은지 엄마는 모르니까 바닥에 드러눕고. 울고 엄마 때리지. 그렇다고 그게 나쁜건 아니야. 세상 모든 어린애들이 나쁘다고 할수 없잖아. 그렇다고 엄마 미워하는 애들이 잘하는 건 아니지. 미워하지는 말라고.

@@butand9421 너 T지?

😕??

저 질문은 성향에 따라 과몰입할수 밖에 없지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

ㅋㅋㅋ확신의 f

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아 나도 초집중함

진짜 개공감ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ t들 의견듣고 살짝 충격먹음.....진짜다르다.....

INFJ 로서 공감합니다!

ㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㄹㅇ 저도 지헌이 말할때 그래 이거지 라고 육성으로 나옴

fr

Yes 🤣🤣🤣🤣

PLEASEE 😭😭

Vouch preach

samee

PLEDIS PLEASEEEE

Exactly that is why she's my ult ❤️🥺

Everyone gets more cheerful when Chaeyoung's in the room

@@onlytheflowerknow same !!

True....recently i am into fromis_9 and i know lee chaeyoung is the most thoughtful and considerate member. She's the realest to make it short.

shes one of my ults for a reason and this is it fr. chaeng is the standard guys

진짜 정말 인정합니다 제작하시는 분들 이런 "자연스럽게 즐기는" 유형 더 만들어주시면 아이돌 유튜브 완탑 된다고 봅니다

많이 알려지지 않았을 뿐이지, 아는 사람들은 채널나인이 아이돌 예능 중에 원탑이라고 생각할듯. ㅡ일주일동안 채널나인 보다가 입덕함

MBTI가 절대적인거 아니지만, 사람의성향이 시간이나 환경에따라 변하는것같습니다. 원래 E의 성향이던 사람도 시간이지나면서 심리적으로 위축되는 환경이나 시간을겪으면 내향적인 I 성향을 가지는것같음. 사람은 로봇이 아니니, 항상변하죠. 반대로 데뷔초반에 소심하던 사람이 잘나가면서 E성향이 되는것처럼

@@SatryRory 그게 아니라 mbti는 외향 내향만 따지는거라 심리적으로 사람이 있는것 없는것 선호하냐 차이임. 내성 외성/ 내향 외향 차이를 잘 인지하지 못하고 두개를 같이 보는 사람이 많은듯. 예를들어 박메건의 경우는 사람들과 쉽게 어울릴수 있고 사교적이라 외성이지만 또 심리적으로는 집에서 쉬어야 에너지 회복이 되는 스타일이라 내향적인것 외성+내향 형인것임 반대로 친구랑 친해지기 어려운 내성형인데 친구들이랑 놀아야지 에너지가 차는 스타일도 있음.. 즉 위 두가지는 별개의 형태로 봐야함

Mbti는 상황에따라 잘 변하지않아요...왜냐하면 이것은 개인에따라 선호경향을 분석하는거라 문항에따른선택이 달라질수있을뿐...즉...e가 40점이고 i가45점이면 5점차밖에나지않아서 문항에따라달라질수도있는거죠

@@user-qs1ip7dd8e mbti에서 외향 내향 따지는 E,I 얘기 하는겁니다.. 다른 알파벳은 관련이 없고 애초에 원댓글도 E,I 얘기하는데 그냥 말꼬투리 어떻게든 잡고싶은걸로만 보입니다..

@@user-qs1ip7dd8e 아니 뒤에 알파벳이 있는걸 누가 몰라요.. 그래서 그게 내향 외향,내성 외성에 영향을 주는 인자냐구요 원댓글부터 그냥 제대로 읽어와보세요 혼자만 난독 걸려서 말꼬투리만 잡는거로만 보여요

LOL accurate 😂

she used to talks a lot tho, she often acts like the mc of the group/ lead the conversation. You must be forgot that she has that "maknae on top" nickname hahah

장규리: 프로미스나인 굳이? 해야되나

​@@hk3993아니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

This is exactly my thoughts too as an ISTP. I dont believe MBTI but the way all my answers are exactly the same as Gyuri probably will change my perception of MBTI.

yes u y'all should believe it . the thing about mbti is not actually tell " 100% who u actually are " but instead " what actually u most into it " and the " letters can be change " by " situations like with a different people , things or places and each letter have a percent% and can be different percent% for each individual

me , im an "ISFP" same as lee chaeyoung .

ISFP : - quiet , attentive . it is not im anti-social but i really do prefer personal space like a lot and i dislike controversy and conflict . i even tend to avoid before it happen . i dont push/force my opinion to others . the mbti forbidden thing about ISFP is not lying around the house . i literally lying/sleep most of the time like 70-90% in house even if i can sit with no problem . when she said " no way " , i really felt it . topic 1, youghee story : - the most upsetting thing for me is " fighting with friends " . why ? it is same as chayeong said , she keep think about it even after the fight . new or old shoes doesnt bother me when stepped on gum . failed selfie and take 200? , i dont do selfie . idr care 'bout my grades . i can eat alone if dinner canceled . tardy/late will be my 1st upsetting if i dont fight with friend . Balance game : all same as chaeyoung 1.B - wear new shoes on rainy day , 2. B - predict 1 hour for future . i dont bother back 1hour in past. even can change it, it is happened . just shrug it off and move on and change past will have a different present time too so, no . 3. A - won 1bil lottery . i've list of things that i need/want to buy 4. what i want too hear if i failed? . same as she said , im fine with both Comfort/encouragement and cold feedback

Might be more surprising to new flovers that Jisun was the only E back then (and though she's an I now, she leans towards E more). Even Megan has been/is an I. They all have such interesting, rational, and personal takes on the topics, it's so great to listen to.

ㄹㅇ로 그만말해버림;;

I'm just glad that it isn't off 16 Personalities.

@@BrockMak the questions are they answered were probably similar to 16p tho because there is no mention of the functions and they keep typing off letters

@@BrockMak though their results were better than i excepted tbh, but saerom has shown alot more fe than that

@@BrockMak Ikr I had inaccurate results with 16per

@@user-ln8oe Oh Saerom was INFP like Hayoung before?

Jiheon hayoung & chaeyoung F

nobody cares about your mbti tho

@@Queen-dl5ju just like nobody cares about you

Ayyy hello fellow INFJ!

i think introvert friend groups are actually more close -knit. Given that they usually only have each other as close friends lol

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수고 하십니다 화이팅!

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싸지방 고

너두? 야 나두ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

ㄹㅇㅋㅋ

Nah, she's very logical and i agree with her statements 😄

She's very level-headed, she barely falters in their idol activities/performances. We stan a competent idol.

ya Im ISTJ too and I very much agree with her . Haha

@@_aiborie timestamp?

Lol yeah that's her charm tho~ and the members know that, when nakko tries to joke or just talk then silence follows 😂👍

Lmao I love those. Also whenever she speaks English it's also followed by silence 🤣

As an INTP myself, I want to see how the same type manifested for Saerom as well. She is so different to Nagyung.