He's a comedian who is taking on proper political discourse in a more mature manner than many of the talking heads wheels out for TV news spots. He raises excellent questions about identity politics and its regressive nature. Many a true word is said in jest.
@sookiebyun42604 жыл бұрын
Hellyers Well said!
@denverspin4 жыл бұрын
I get all of my news from comedians. They are more truthful than the corporate media
@lisettecallis53294 жыл бұрын
yeah sadly hes not a political leader lol.
@040170724 жыл бұрын
Philip Donelan says a lot about the state of the current climate
@peterfmodel4 жыл бұрын
AS a economic right winger i find Tom Walker is obviously someone of the left, but he is a left winger who thinks rather than repeats the party line and gets offended. I don't agree with all his politics, but by golly he is funny.
@M3mphix6 жыл бұрын
Awsome bloke. His free-speech rant outside the courts was legendary.
@ulysses49894 жыл бұрын
@Viktor Sligo But true
@ulysses49894 жыл бұрын
@Viktor Sligo legendary
@SkandalouzStyle4 жыл бұрын
But he doesn't believe in what he says as Jonathan pie.
@andy65764 жыл бұрын
@@SkandalouzStyle That's not at all what he said, "Steve".
@ClezVideos3 жыл бұрын
That was the first Johnathan Pie video I ever watched and I’ve been hooked ever since!
@edpistemic5 жыл бұрын
Walker is my kind of leftie. I admire his honesty and his refusal to conform.
@feenstma4 жыл бұрын
@Reggie Cyde Uhm no. @Edpistemic I dont think it's a refusal to conform. I think it's just the truth, or as the trump-voting idiots in the US would say 'he's telling it like it is'. Without their rightwing bullshit ofcourse ;)
@edpistemic4 жыл бұрын
@@feenstma Agreed. He does tell it like it is. But, these days, that is refusing to conform because there is such a pressure to tow the line on a lot of political correctness.
@suzyqualcast62693 жыл бұрын
Too right, always.
@therealboywonder68326 жыл бұрын
22:28. I have been saying this for 2 years. Why is it that BREXIT and Trump happened? It's NOT because voters are racist or bigoted, it's because politicians failed to engage with millions of people for so long that the public simply wanted change. This is because Politicians are more aligned to Corporations and the Banks than they are the People who voted for them. Add to the pot an absolutely embarrassing Mainstream media and this helps explain how Trump and Brexit happened. Tom, I salute you.
@siliconvalets80365 жыл бұрын
And the American opposition and media seemed to have learn't nowt since 2016
@tric51225 жыл бұрын
Trump/Brexit happened b/c the Media is no longer a voice of the people, but of the govt or their political beliefs; and the Govt as you stated only works for their parties and the corporations that keep them in political power. I cannot speak in depth on Brexit, but for Trump, well that also happened b/c Hillary is seen as a terrible person and govt insider and corrupt to the core, Trump is seen as 2 of those three, but people were tired of the professional politician, its why Obama won, even though he was in congress it wasn't a lifetime. Trump was a political outsider, and, like his message or hate it, he wasn't trying to be poltical in what he was saying. He also went to the inner cities and the rust belt telling them he was going to work at getting their jobs back, or securing their jobs.
@paulchapman78625 жыл бұрын
"People who voted for them". and who pay their wages!
@MrMcChez5 жыл бұрын
Read Habermaas . . . not easy . . . but he explains and was explaining a long long time ago.
@MrMcChez5 жыл бұрын
@Russ Hawkins - you egg. Reuters is owned by Thomson Reuters. Thomson Reuters is chaired by David Thomson who took over from his father. But yeah . . . it's another Rothschilds conspiracy . . .
@christophermcfadden24166 жыл бұрын
I agree with Pie about 40% of the time but this interview has shown how 'genuine' a human being Tom Walker is. This is the most refreshing interview I have seen for a long time. Long live freedom of speech.
@delailama7365 жыл бұрын
It's kind of sad that freedom of speech only really exists in one country in the entire world, America. Even in Australia we have ""hate speech" laws.
@Blikmin5 жыл бұрын
@@delailama736 You should check out Europe man.
@delailama7365 жыл бұрын
@@Blikmin Which countries in Europe don't have hate speech laws?
@BowerBomB5 жыл бұрын
@@delailama736 every where has freedom of speech. You can say whatever you like when ever you want, to who ever you want.... That's not the same as being free from any consequences for that speech. You want to stand on a street corner and shout about how you think one ethnic group is the route of all the woes of the world then that's fine... But someone from that demographic might smack you in the mouth. Freedom of speed is a ridiculous notion, unless i physically gag you then you can always say what you like... Just not consequence free.
@NLTops5 жыл бұрын
@@BowerBomB Your arguement is a little flawed. There's a difference between social consequences and legal consequences. Also, someone socking someone in the face for their opinion is against the law. Don't justify it.
@charliecorr58066 жыл бұрын
We need the Tom Walkers of this world to hold up a mirror to the rest of us and challenge our thinking, regardless of our political leanings. So good Tom, keep it up.
@lazylaurablue5 жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly one of the most intelligent and genuine commentators of our time. Absolutely LOVE Jonathan Pie. The thinking person's Alan Partridge.
@Thom-jj7yr Жыл бұрын
I think the atmosphere has turned rrrrrrrather sour.
@palomapepe1 Жыл бұрын
Yup, as talented + intelligent as Stewart Lee - they both help us survive 13 yrs of #ERGToryCorruption
@dougdougw10 ай бұрын
@@palomapepe1He's way more talented (and likeable) than Lee.
@bloodboughtbigphilr82663 жыл бұрын
We need more leftie libertarians like Tom. Love his alter ego's rants. Has me in stitches but his points are so salient and spot on. Jonathan Pie talks way more sense than any real life political commentators. Big fan of your work Tom.
@SirAntoniousBlock Жыл бұрын
_'leftie libertarians'_ 🤨
@gortimustidditus6 жыл бұрын
Wow I haven't seen him out of character before. He's very engaging, charismatic, expressive and quite sexy :p
@dalemareew31446 жыл бұрын
Yes, I too felt the same, he is so important to today's narrative, and he is so cute!
@jayviolentmob83096 жыл бұрын
Jeez, keep 'em under your jumper, luv. ;-)
@gortimustidditus6 жыл бұрын
@Jay & Violent Mob ur not my real mom!
@jayviolentmob83096 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@jamiefinn44386 жыл бұрын
"and quite sexy" haha, i was just thinking this.
@alexcoleman5896 жыл бұрын
Good dialogue. I’m a lefty as well, and I agree that freedom of speech is paramount.
@Harriet-Jesamine6 жыл бұрын
Special Agent Kingston Lefties who don't think freedom of speech is paramount, are not true lefties, but are in fact neoliberals masquerading as lefties, in the worse kind of political hypocrisy. Identity politics, and dividing people against people, those things are precisely the opposite of left. Genuine right and genuine left usually have something valuable to contribute or add to a debate, the problem is with the technocratic centrists with no ideology whatsoever, that can only make policy based around think tanks and social engineering and agenda setting, those are the dangerous ones, and they must be stopped!
@chokinonashes616 жыл бұрын
Howard Fisher Exactly! A refreshing comment to read, thanks.
@PiousMoltar6 жыл бұрын
I'm a lefty too and the modern "left" disgusts me. Walker and Pie are my type of leftist.
@tonyhind69926 жыл бұрын
I am a right winger and I agree with you 100% mate. Free speech is vital.
@kubeface1155 жыл бұрын
I'm left-leaning too and hold freedom of speech as one of the most important parts of our society. I do however think many people need to take some time to develop an understanding of what freedom of speech is. We've never had *absolute* freedom of speech, like many seem to think - laws against harassment, abuse and breach of the peace have always been a thing and probably always will be. We do however have to work together to make sure those in power don't use those laws to silence the opposition. Unfortunately it's an incredibly difficult thing to get right, especially as we are confronting one of the biggest changes in human history - the internet.
@TheBlightygal6 жыл бұрын
What an intelligent man, likeable and succinct. Been watching Pie vids since the start and always liked him and it's great to see the man behind Pie. Really impressed, least not because he can turn swearing off and on!
@alexkay36776 жыл бұрын
Tom, you are refreshingly sensible and you say what needs to be said, and heard! I'm delighted you created Jonathan to make us think and laugh - you deserve success, long may it continue.
@DanFleming1146 жыл бұрын
I love Jonathan Pie and thought Tom Walker came across amazingly in this interview. What a legend and his character has managed to engage me into the world of politics. Bravo sir!
@cameronsmith11786 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this man! Keep helping us on the left spread the message of free speech - there's nowhere near enough of it from us nowadays
@cameronsmith11786 жыл бұрын
So none of the socialist governments of Britain between 1945-78 had freedom of speech? Are you sure you don't simply mean the left wing authoritarian governments of Mao, Lenin and Stalin?
@lulumatthewiosi1796 жыл бұрын
"Leftism is built on group identity, group think and censorship". Eh, no. Nice try projecting everything you don't like on the political "side" you don't like.
@joebowden40656 жыл бұрын
Cameron Smith exactly. Do you think these people have ever looked at the actions and policies of the 1945-1951 Labour government. An openly socialist government that probably achieved the most of any in 20th century Britain.
@lulumatthewiosi1796 жыл бұрын
Free speech has nothing to with "left" and "right" (which are already in itself quite meaningless, a simplification of the political spectrum so we can pick a "side" and can have a common enemy on the other "side"). Authoritarianism and censorship can be found and has existed in every political direction. Jonathan Pie/Tom Walker is a socialist and defends free speech, which is in no shape or form a contradiction. How do you even leave the left? It's not like "the left" or "the right" is an organization, group or party.
@lulumatthewiosi1796 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's possible to have proper discourse, when somebody calls the side he disagrees with paedophiles. People really have a misconception what free speech means. Kanye is in no shape or form censored and can freely express his opinion. It's within the freedom of others to publicly disagree with his statements or even think them objectionable. That's not the same thing as saying he has not the right to express his opinion. Disagreement or thinking a statement is wrong and expressing that is not the same thing as oppressing speech. if this would be the case any kind of discussion would be oppression of speech. Oppression of free speech is getting prosecuted for having an unpopular opinion.
@hasnaina7862 жыл бұрын
As a History and Politics teacher I've actually recommended some of your work to students and we all love and applaud you for it. ❤
@-xirx- Жыл бұрын
Channel 4‽ 😉
@TheRealDeal130 Жыл бұрын
@@-xirx- No, he/she meant Jonathan Pie's videos on KZfaq.
@ginalipkin48497 ай бұрын
Debate, discuss, connect, communicate with one another, he's opening up our thinking, ThankYou Pie ❤
@domc29096 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I liked that Krishnan didn't say: "So what you're saying is..." very often.
@trippydrew84926 жыл бұрын
It's a tactic used by many people like him to make people think that what he is saying is true. Just watch the Jordan Peterson interview with Cathy Newman. Every scentence if prefaced with "So what you're saying is"...
@yancowles6 жыл бұрын
I imagine Dom C was aware of this and hence used the phrase.
@domc29096 жыл бұрын
That's correct Mr Sixpence.
@gregsmw6 жыл бұрын
thats cos krishnan is actualy a good journalist
@Dragonfallz6 жыл бұрын
Dom C It's almost like Jordan Peterson is so vacuous in his statements, she had to try and paraphrase what he was saying (maybe badly) to get an actual statement from him. Not the best technique, but certainly better than letting him ramble on.
@titocristobal55733 жыл бұрын
I'm a new fan of Tom Walker and his work as Jonathan Pie. You know someone is a great artist when you can basically imagine the character living on the actor but still knows how to flip the character's switch off when needed. Tom Walker's really an amazing artist. We need more performers and artists like him.
@sirrathersplendid48256 жыл бұрын
Had the feeling Tom Walker aka J. Pie was walking on a tightrope all the way through this interview. A very clever man indeed.
@colinglen45055 жыл бұрын
John Eskins ... and that 'nice' interviewer was subtly applying grease to parts of that rope.
@142doddy3 жыл бұрын
Guru Murphy is notoriously disingenuous in interviews. Richard Ayoade and Robert Downey Jr demonstrated that well enough
@nzneo6433 жыл бұрын
@@142doddy Tarantino had a go at him aswell
@jimstormcrow5 жыл бұрын
I'm a lefty...this guy is right. The identity politics is unhelpful and divisive.
@61shirley6 жыл бұрын
I'm a right winger and I love Pie.
@MrLeeKnees6 жыл бұрын
Good for you
@stephenowen33836 жыл бұрын
Me too. Love him so much, even when he is bashing the Tories, largely because I dislike them as well. Just find it odd really that people get so steamed up about what he says.
@Generalscorpio6 жыл бұрын
Well there are different kinds within the Labour Party and within the Conservative Party so a lot of Labour types aren't the stereotype and the same is true of Tories. I like him attacking the Tories because under the right person I could vote for them but May is just terrible. Equally there are plenty of lefties who are pissed off with some of the regressive crap. I think that's why it works.
@domc29096 жыл бұрын
Steak & Kidney?
@mike-wi8wm6 жыл бұрын
thats good dom
@thomasamos97566 жыл бұрын
Pie presents a brutally honest view on all news that crosses the screen/paper. Neither; Right, left or centrist just a solid opinion. Keep going Tommy Boy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@allpoliticsnoeconomics41866 жыл бұрын
Thomas Amos he's a lefty dude lol... he states it about twenty times in this video
@plurplis95996 жыл бұрын
All politics No economics i think they meant that people accross the political spectrum can agree with him
@alexandertkeith35415 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Tom Walker as an LBC presenter - great radio voice and grasp of current affairs + the satire might actually lighten the place up
@142doddy3 жыл бұрын
Too right wing for Walker.
@shivaunt71 Жыл бұрын
O'Brien wouldn't allow it.
@sarahtooldtocare85614 жыл бұрын
Tom Walker the man who plays Jonathan pie is absolute genius is the nearest thing we've got to the late great Robin Williams in his attitude to politics.
@rossgraver29456 жыл бұрын
Pie is a bridge between right and left. I can't think of any others. He seems like the lefts last chance before total capitulation. No debate means you concede defeat and that is the lefts stance on many issues.
@rossgraver29456 жыл бұрын
Shuggy Thomas no debate? Just insults? Seems you prove my point. Thank you.
@patbateman20886 жыл бұрын
Maajid Nawaz is also a good bridge, on Islam
@rossgraver29456 жыл бұрын
PraxeoLiberty is that the lbc radio host?
@patbateman20886 жыл бұрын
Ross Graver yes.
@PiousMoltar6 жыл бұрын
Used to be a big fan of Nawaaz but his attack on Tommy Robinson was uncalled for and it seems he's not been very honest about his past. But I'm not sure what he's trying to achieve if it's all some kind of ruse. He seems to be fighting the good fight.
@yeovil506 жыл бұрын
I am probably centre right in my political thinking, but Tom Walker is 100 percent correct in saying that you don't win arguments by shouting racist am bigots at people . For what it is worth my views on certain issues have changed because someone of a complete political opinion then mine had a conversation as two adults. As soon as someone labels me a racist or bigot then they concrete my view and more importantly my vote to the opposite way they want me to.
@foxybingo11126 жыл бұрын
Michael Yeovil Absolutely. As a left winger myself, I agree that the only way to win an argument is by having a rational conversation with them, as soon as it turns into a shouting match the original point of the debate is lost. It's just a shame that there are people on the left, right and centre who don't seem to like debate and instead want to silence opposition
@HiltonBenchley5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I'm slightly left but the far-left idiots are mental (and, for the record, all authoritarians are evil twats). You don't get elected by alienating everyone to the right of Karl Marx, and that's what they seem intent on doing. Using the R-word is divisive and not persuasive. The extreme leftist authoritarians reject reason, science, common sense, and free speech, all things I believe to be of paramount importance.
@account13075 жыл бұрын
Look at this! Right wing and left wing ideas are finally engaging in proper discussion!
@account13075 жыл бұрын
Fucking finally
@vanefreja865 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The same can be said about some radical vegans. I had someone trying to "convert" me by accusing me and calling me a killer. I am open to eat less meat, but that made me angry.
@kcgeil6 жыл бұрын
Guru-Murthy considers the truth an "agenda". Says it all really.
@sb_dunk5 жыл бұрын
It's productive to challenge the person your interviewing regardless of one's own beliefs. KGM doesn't have to be "anti-truth" to make that statement.
@hertsengland5 жыл бұрын
interesting that Russia Today are being talked about as a propaganda machine and yet they were the only ones who gave him editorial control
@tobiaskraus5 жыл бұрын
Not very interesting, actually. They still are a propaganda machine. And an awful one as such. This stuff is not binary. Not Pepsi or Coke. If you hate [insert your preferred media outlet], that doesn't make RT suddenly a less vile media outlet.
@markdal495 жыл бұрын
It was a good point, well made though.I wonder if any other media outlets would make him such an offer? Just out of curiosity Tobias, why do you find RT vile?
@siliconvalets80365 жыл бұрын
RT do good alternate coverage of world events. Its up to you to decide how biased they are about a particular topic, same as when viewing the BBC or other news.
@harry-mt6ug4 жыл бұрын
@@siliconvalets8036 Completely agree. I find RT are one of the only media outlets who show you the most world wide media coverage. You just have to take it in knowing there is a slant towards Mother Russia. I like Russia today but I also read the DM, Guadian... its important to make your own opinion from multiple sources, whilst understanding what you are reading.
@notsosmartmart54024 жыл бұрын
RT perform the role that Channel4 news used to many moons ago.
@lucielimonard508 Жыл бұрын
Writing this years after this interview... The world doesn't actually get any better, but 'Jonothan Pie's' video's are so spot on, so articulate and so very helpful for us understanding all UK and overall madness🙃 X Lucie and Rogier from Amsterdam
@boiledelephant6 жыл бұрын
This guy single-handedly jolted me out of that regressive, divisive kind of thinking and partisan intolerance with his Trump video.
@BartAlder5 жыл бұрын
Bigot! Juuuuuus kidding.
@lolar60856 жыл бұрын
I love how energetic and passionate he is about his work and freedom of speech. Love Jonathan Pie he speaks facts and one have to be brave these days to do it so.
@getwetfred5 жыл бұрын
I love this guys so much. Everything he says is exactly how I feel.
@olivebirdy21506 жыл бұрын
Count Dankula is appealing his conviction, has crowdfunded 100,000 pounds in a single day from 4,500 people. #FreeSpeech #FreeDankula
@marccas106 жыл бұрын
Olive Birdy no fucking way????? That is amazing! I imagine that a fantastic story like that will be all over the news and will be made into a Hollywood movie???? NOT!
@KaelinSK6 жыл бұрын
P T I remember the father ted episode where ‘Ted’ looked like Hitler and looked like he was shouting out at a Chinese family..... very almost the same joke
@crimsoncorsair92506 жыл бұрын
Olive Birdy who cares his dog wasn't that funny
@andymac3456 жыл бұрын
Over 150k now.
@nbartlett65386 жыл бұрын
As we all know, the ability to raise money from an angry mob is the BEST proof of innocence.
@StonefieldJim44 жыл бұрын
It's so inspiring to have a true representative of the Thinking Left standing up to the Unthinking Left (or "perma-offended woke twats", as he calls them).
@andrewcorlett59545 жыл бұрын
This was a terrific interview. As a Brexiteer and person of the right, I’m rightfully suspicious of Channel 4 content but I have to hand it to KGM in this instance, he did an excellent job. And Tom Walker is a wonderful breath of fresh air in the political sphere even though there’s much we wouldn’t agree on.
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
"As a Brexiteer" how's it feel to cut off your own nose to spite your own face?
@bretthackett33574 жыл бұрын
It gives me hope to see someone genuine breakthrough and make it. Spent his 20s scrubbing it, skipping meals and doing rubbish jobs to pursue his goal, could've given up at any point and fell into a regular 9-5 but stuck at his craft. Best of luck with everything mate.
@TheGroundHopper6 жыл бұрын
Great interview, trying to force him to say working with RT was a mistake was bad though, ultimately it gave him a platform to go where he is now and I'm glad the Pie defended his decision and even though he disagrees with them now it's a valuable part of his life
@agentjackstone35436 жыл бұрын
As Robert Downey Jr said about this interviewer, hes kind a of a schmuck.
@sirrathersplendid48256 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Robert Downey Jr is an Americorn. Can't expect him to catch all the nuances. Even so, highly disingenuous of Krishnan to try to get an apology for working at R.T. Didn't work. Typical of the feminard media though, all they want is apologies, then they know they've won. Like all arguments with women.
@joermundgand6 жыл бұрын
BBC, RT, state news.
@billyakin33014 жыл бұрын
@@agentjackstone3543 Takes one to know one.
@reginaldworthington75584 жыл бұрын
One of the few ‘relevant’ voices in media today on either side of the isle/planet. Brash, outspoken, brilliantly laying it all out thread bare for us with language everyone else is too PC to even contemplate. Thank you Mr Pie for your courage and your humor as we desperately need both in these perilous times.
@kaytianna6 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. I have so much more respect for this dude after this. And I had a lot of respect before!!
@neilwilson57854 жыл бұрын
He is predicting the defeat of Labour and the Liberals in 2019 right here. Truly spot on.
@mairedaly45485 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I'm stunned that Tom Walker is considered conservative by some. I thought he was 'common sense' left! And I'd never judge him on working for RT censorship free!! Wow, impressive.
@STUCASHX6 жыл бұрын
Intelligent, interesting and thoroughly engaging. I could listen to him talk for hours. Regarding his accusers, they're always caught out when they try to debate someone who only speaks the truth. He understands exactly what he's doing when he writes Pie too. I share his ability to look at a news story or social situation from another angle and it really resonates with me and, judging by his popularity, many others. Self made success story too?.. Long may it continue.
@bogeyat34 жыл бұрын
the RT story is fascinating and really shows the reality of living as an artist - well played old son.
@Aleakwe Жыл бұрын
i met Tom and thanked him for Jonathan Pie. Don't have enough words as to how much his type of analysis is needed. thanks for this interview
@celticlofts5 жыл бұрын
I love his stuff. It's not just the content but the way he says it. He takes a serious subject, throws a tantrum about it but he makes it funny and entertaining at the same time.
@hodgmo15 жыл бұрын
Tom Walker is genuine, passionate and well spoken. Another slice of pie please!
@MMartec Жыл бұрын
Wow... He's one of the most intelligent nice guys I've seen on such a TV/net programm... what a very cool guy! Possibly the best, most honest, clever interview I've seen in years.. (quite sad it took me over 4 years to see that)! I would love to get to chat with him one day! Thank you for doing it Channel 4.. And mostly, giving the time, for the philosophies of it all! And remember, he's not a genius, he is just a very nice guy, a Man with the wisdom, and the humor, and the curiosity, and the brain, and the experience, and the will to talk... like so many of us could, but that never had the chance or will, to do it..! From my side... wow! I am very very happy that Tom Walker exists and finally shows that there are some clear, interesting, clever minds to talk true in the UK, and indeed the world! I will check more, about what he has to say these days!
@almagirimai89316 жыл бұрын
Love it when you say "I'm not gonna write my stuff for stupid people".... Tom Walker, yes. Never give in! Satire is absolutely required for keeping people sane! Thank you. Your work is like the fresh air coming in through a genuine window in the wall of self-congratulatory mirrors this suffocating culture has created. Freedom of speech and "listen to the guy you disagree with" warrior. If you don't listen to people, you can't persuade them to your argument!
@LoueeD6 жыл бұрын
Awesome interview! I'm a left wing, corbyn voting, gay man, labour member and I completely agree that freedom of speech is a necessary core value of a functioning democracy. People have to be able to voice their opinions and point of views, so that a descution can take place. Shutting someone up because you currently think their wrong completely kills the chance of any useful discussion.
@komal1465 жыл бұрын
God the interviewer is not ready to accept the flaws within the mainstream media, that unfortunately is universally true.
@davidstrohl5 жыл бұрын
This interview puts a totally different light on Johnathan Pie. It’s one that I find refreshing. Keep doing what you’re doing, dude. You have their schtick down pat. Kind of frightening that we live in this world where a comedian can come across as more trustworthy than the actual news. Speaks volumes. Whether you’re on the left or the right, he does make you think about the dichotomy of what’s being said vs. what’s being done. Excellent political satirist in a field that’s become far too politically correct. Don’t ever stop!
@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын
I didn't mean to see this, KZfaq brought it randomly after another video. I'm very glad to have seen this. He's made enough valid points and helped me understand, I was one of the stupid ones. Would love to thank him so here it is. Thanks. I can't believe how relatable to life he is. I appreciate his truths with RT.
@syd48904 жыл бұрын
Take home message: people don't want to debate and hear the other side; they just want to hear themselves.
@bhatkrishnakishor4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@edwardgreenjr1674 жыл бұрын
Lord this interviewer is proving Tom's points in real time. Actually trying to spin a preferred response and narrative out of him in the same minute as being told about how disingenuous the 'media' is.
@BadYossa5 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting and engaging 39.50 mins/secs I've had in a long time. Compelling viewing.
@robertlivingstone70074 жыл бұрын
Love him he says it like it is .holding a mirror in the face of society and politics .thank you Tim for this .your inadvertently providing a essential service doing what you do .
@dark_cloud_63126 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview, Tom is a star and Pie is so to the point, love it :)
@LazyJack2003 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I am wondering how on earth this or that could have happened (Trump? People voting for Brexit ? politicians misbehaving etc etc) I look for Jonathan Pie. He never fails me. I always feel better after listening to him.
@jayviolentmob83096 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Krishnan Guru-Murthy. Faith in journalistic interviewing, restored. Cathy Newman had basically killed my hope until I saw this 40 min discussion, so thank you!
@ig85424 жыл бұрын
My two fav people on TV. I am impressed with Pie/Tom - I wish more of us were able to bring more truth and debate and make people laugh at the same time. Thank you
@bisso54676 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Pie rant about western military intervention, russophobia, military-industrial complex. Big fan from India.
@JeffTaylor6 жыл бұрын
As a right leaning supporter I find Pie funny! But I do understand that he and his character are lefties.
@tynebar6 жыл бұрын
His character is NOT a leftie. Listen to what the man says (and has said).
@Fuar116 жыл бұрын
His character is a centrist
@elwinowen54696 жыл бұрын
Supporting Jeremy Corbyn, calling New Labour right-wing, wanting to boost public spending in everything, and raise taxes is centrist now?
@chokinonashes616 жыл бұрын
Elwin Owen New Labour, neoliberals are conservative though.
@Buneboy6 жыл бұрын
wow Jeff Taylor I'm a subscriber of yours :)
@KipIngram5 жыл бұрын
You know, Tom is a *comedian*, but he (as well as Pie) is just so RIGHT about so many of these issues. The first of his work I ever saw was the one in his "studio" the day after Trump was elected. The opening bits were good, but when he got into the main meat, about the need to *engage* in real debate with the people who disagree with you, rather than slap a convenient label on them, I felt like standing up and CHEERING. I go back every couple of months and watch that video again - it's just too good and too spot on. Tom, you're doing a fantastic job - keep it up!
@Ziggyziggy1 Жыл бұрын
This guy is doing some phenomenal work...
@elainepayne70474 жыл бұрын
Please, please can we have these two talking together again? Soon? Superb pairing, balanced, no shouty, mouthy stuff. Wonderful.
@candysays1236 жыл бұрын
Great interview here, Tom seems a lot more coherent than previous interviews. I also read news/opinion from left and right sources and I would recommend it just as the video does!
@bridgendesar4 жыл бұрын
If only Krishnan had said at the end "OK, who's for a pint"
@shey24442 жыл бұрын
He was so right about Jeremy Corbyn. I am not a lefties, nor a Labour supporter but I was a huge fan of Jeremy Corbyn. He is a thoroughly decent man and perhaps that what we need right now.
@milliosmiles51606 жыл бұрын
Tom, I don't think you need to be so defensive about having worked for RT, as far as I can tell they have no more or no less integrity than any of the British media outlets.
@Yungrexy6 жыл бұрын
Also a bit disappointed that he has bought the Russia is bad line. RT let their reporters have more freedom than most western news outlets.
@BanterEdits6 жыл бұрын
RT is literally paid for by the Russian Government.
@joebowden40656 жыл бұрын
Rex The Younger Russia today definitely does not give journalists as much freedom as the bbc. You can make whatever comments you want but actual genuine evidence proves otherwise, rather than some sort of government/anti-Semitic conspiracy
@GetToDaChoppa-k5r6 жыл бұрын
RT are fantastic.
@brynwatson14395 жыл бұрын
Whats interesting is that RT sound like the only ones with the integrity to forego editorial control! (Not sure who the others were) they obviously had agendas they wanted to push, and disappointing that the interviewer tried to put words in his mouth and clearly anti-Russia.
@sonicwingnut4 жыл бұрын
I like how one of the most articulate political interviews I've seen in recent times is with a satirist. Although admittedly I'm not surprised in the slightest.
@garrymatthews55983 жыл бұрын
That was time worth spending to get to know all about this character, I congratulate you sir👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@dennisclark80036 жыл бұрын
This interview should be mandatory watching for all politicians, all students and anyone who likes debate or argument, and I love both. Great comments, well put, and fended the interviewer off like a pro.Top man
@Spenjbob1016 жыл бұрын
Alright channel 4, alright mate. You’ve redeemed yourself a fair amount with this one after that car crash Jordan Peterson interview
@razzle19646 жыл бұрын
Mick Manmoose ... or the RDJ walkout, lol
@Indomitable926 жыл бұрын
So... What your saying is Cathy is not a coherent individual?
@dystopia476 жыл бұрын
Immortality23 She wasn't capable of using logical arguments demonstrably without resorting to ad hominems and assumptions. She shouldve been sacked.
@ginge6416 жыл бұрын
Makoeyes Onme So what you're saying is that all women should be sacked?
@ricardoguanipa82756 жыл бұрын
So, what are you saying is that Cathy Newman did nothing wrong
@spider26665 жыл бұрын
Cool guy. I really like him, and it's a heroic struggle he's taken on
@zmcg5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Walker echos my political stances almost perfectly. Well spoken.
@exoticgirl15 жыл бұрын
Just admit it, Tom.....Johnatan Pie is purely therapeutic 🤣🤣 I love that character.
@neilfitton52316 жыл бұрын
Saw him live and have to say nobody else out there is holding up the mirror !! he is a clever and intelligent comedian
@mcconartist32816 жыл бұрын
These are great. Amazing that news channels are now switching to the podcast format!
@allpoliticsnoeconomics41866 жыл бұрын
Mcconartist 123 Mc I agree! I think KGM does a good job of challenging and allowing him to speak also. Props to c4 who have been interviewing interesting people in long format - from Hitchens and Peterson to Varoufakis and Zizek for well over a year. They can't be accused of not stepping outside their bubble
@MichaelCoolidge4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. The first rule is to listen. The second is to respond intelligently. Stopping free speech means you have lost your argument. Keep it up please.
@LennyJohnson54 жыл бұрын
I love what Tom Walker does; although he's a Labour supporter, it's difficult to place him politically, because he lambasts idiocy and stupidity wherever and whenever they raise their heads, on all sides of the political divide. Great satire has always had the power to defeat pomposity and to shine a light on it, exposing it for the unwelcome imposter it is and should always be treated as. An important antidote to the all-consuming, unforgiving and nauseous WOKE culture. Keep it up!!
@2LaneTraveler4 жыл бұрын
7:30 Being a straight, white male myself, I suffer the exact same prejudice. I'm automatically assumed to be a bigoted Trump voter. This is what's wrong with political discussion today. It's all about leaping to conclusions instead of finding answers.
@SuperDecdog2 жыл бұрын
Are you a trump fan
@shemmie43536 жыл бұрын
When Tom talks about the pay gap - and says he argued using 'facts', and Mr Guru-Murthy says "You're undermining the whole case around gender pay... they finally have some figures to take to their employers...." Tom replies "And all I'm doing is pointing out they're disingenuous". THAT IS THE ISSUE. RIGHT THERE. If people make arguments using facts; sorted. If you make an argument using "not-facts", and people point out that they are not facts, you can't win the argument by 'then' playing "Well, you're a straight white male". When you ask Tom "Are you less left-wing now?" - it's a question I often reflect on. As he says, as someone who's pro NHS and a Labour voter, I do ask myself, often, am I still left-wing. For me, anyway. I don't see how "believing in debate and freedom of speech" is not a left-wing issue. If it is no longer a left-wing issue, then yes - I'm less left-wing now.
@willmcreavy96236 жыл бұрын
In fairness to Gurumurthy he's playing devils advocate which is what a good interviewer should be doing, Cathy Newman was was purposely misunderstanding and taking Peterson out of context
@geneparmesan87486 жыл бұрын
In answer to the question "are you less left wing now?" - I don't think I am, personally, but I think the aim left wing conversations are moving even farther left than me. I've stayed in relatively the same place. One good thing about online, text-based political debates on forums or even in KZfaq comments is that sometimes I'm given a notification to a comment I made 4 years ago, when I thought of myself as about as left as a person could get - and my views were still very much the same. Yet now I feel more like I need to self-identify as a centrist, because the most prominent left wing conversations are pretty radical.
@DJMavis6 жыл бұрын
I have long been an advocate for criticising your own side. We need to be better than them, and you win an argument with the truth, not lies* *okay, that's not always true, but it makes your position unassailable from a rational debate context, rather than a frothing Daily Mail headline one
@shemmie43536 жыл бұрын
I... will agree that a good interviewer should be playing devils advocate. And I'll defer to you, and hope that was Mr Guru-Murthy's intention. I'm not 100% convinced I believe it. But I'd like to. ;^)
@jamesben16 жыл бұрын
Facts are important, as long as you're presenting all the facts and not just the ones that support your own argument. I think that should apply to everyone, whatever your politics. My only problem with the argument about free speech is this myth that speech doesn't have consequences, which it objectively does have. I'm not talking being politically incorrect, which I don't really care about. I mean people who hide behind free speech whilst spreading hatred and misinformation and covertly encouraging others to commit violence. I don't know where you draw the line with that.
@victoriatampling50493 жыл бұрын
Love him 💕 we need more people like him to raise issues and show how it is. I don't believe anything that MSM tells me. Keep up the good work making us laugh at how stupid we have got.☮️🙏🌟
4 жыл бұрын
Extremely happy things worked out for Tom Walker! I really enjoy his rants. Extremely good interview. Kudos to the host. I would love to see Tom's take on Shakespeare.
@Mrbooboo19725 жыл бұрын
I was there from the beginning seeing Tom as Pie. He's a Great Guy.. I love what he does. At first I thought he was really going off. Lol. Love your work man.
@therealboywonder68326 жыл бұрын
36:58 Krishnan fell into the Mainstream media trap of not listening. "so it was a mistake basically". Well no, Krishnan. He'd clearly been explaining he has no regrets and wouldn't change anything as the work with RT got him where it did today. You overpaid clown.
@markboon20246 жыл бұрын
Davidoff007 To be fair though. He allowed him to actually speak his piece and didn't barrage him over it. Other interviewers would have spent ten minutes cutting him off. Thought it was a very balanced conversation for the majority of the time they had. Owen Jones should take notes.
@therealboywonder68326 жыл бұрын
Mark Boon well pointed out. 👍
@darrenreus65236 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Tom Walker is the most relevant artist of his time. Thank you
@christinestromberg40575 жыл бұрын
Love what he said about Blair. The first time I saw Blair on tv my immediate thought was that I don't trust that man. It was instantaneous. Nice to know I wasn't alone.
@alewoanna2 жыл бұрын
I loved how he stood his ground saying it was not a mistake to work for RT.
@presstodelete11656 жыл бұрын
Krishnan, worried Pie might be pointing out dishonesty in mainstream meadia, something keeping you awake at night fella?
@colinglen45055 жыл бұрын
Mark Margenis ... yes, you could see his mind working with that. everyone is saying what a good interview it was but I suspect that Tom was receiving subtle messages through the questions. and it wouldn't surprise me if channel 4 were checking him out to see if he was onside. in a way, it resembled an extremely informal grilling by an intelligence agency.
@alanmcoll1013 жыл бұрын
Loved this interview, even though it's 2 years later. Good job Krishnan Guru-Murthy and well done Tom Walker.
@claresmith-hill9417 Жыл бұрын
I was born in the late '60's. My parents chose to move into a New Town in Washington in 1969. They'd moved from industrial Gateshead to a 4 bedroom 2 bathroom Council house that Harold Wilson's Government created. Down the street we had a GP, 4 doors away we had a Labour member of Parliament. I was blessed with vision lead by a visionary Labour in the 60's and the '70's. I met Harold Wilson in our Neighbours house when I was a little girl. He was charming, interesting and interested in what my family thought about New Towns just like Washington New Town. I love my childhood. I love what Labour created in the late '60's early '70's. Please can we have it again?
@lesleymercer35566 жыл бұрын
What an interesting and likeable chap!
@philosopher66794 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Pie is a satirical masterpiece.
@JuanZavaleta6 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview. Pie has gained so much recognition in such a short period of time. I am glad I found him when he had no more than a few hundreds subscribers. He is quite something...
@QuercusRobur445 жыл бұрын
A surprisingly good interview - not leading at all and allowing the interviewee time to get his points across. It also helps that Tom Walker is absolutely correct in his assessment of the current political climate.
@rachelhoward3346 жыл бұрын
Great that he can say what a lot would like to.
@keihndeth5 жыл бұрын
Love Tom Walker, but its pretty obvious the interviewer is probing ways to crucify him.
@lynneceegee87265 жыл бұрын
Keihndeth not at all! To be a decent interviewer you have to ask questions form both sides otherwise it’s just a vanity piece.
@krsslim2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant, true British journalism & humour.
@peacefulpleb5 жыл бұрын
As an old lover of Spitting Image, Not the Nine O'Clock News, The Thick of It, F Boyle Esq, etc; until Pie turned up I was convinced that the golden age of intelligent British political satire had all but disappeared. We were being fed a diet of safe and inoffensive pap. Tom Walker keep it up mate, we need a satire rebirth on our media. The US have got some real greats (e.g. Bill Maher, Stephen Colbert, etc); so cry havoc and let slip the dogs of UK political satire.
@BernieHollandMusic4 жыл бұрын
Bill Maher sold out years ago - he is neither satirical or progressive - he has been bought and paid for by the corporate establishment - I remember when Harry Hill was edgy and took risks and was funny - look what has happened to him - he has sold out too - maybe when Tom Walker gets too wealthy and famous he will do the same - I hope not.