Awesome content! We're so glad to hear you are enjoying your experience. +50 words per minute is great for less than a week of practice, especially for someone that has only just started chording. We have also noted your feedback regarding the switch membrane and thoughts on improving the Launchpad experience. Thanks so much again for sharing 🙂
@acoston062 жыл бұрын
So cool to see this kind of response! I was a little on the fence, but I’ll definitely be purchasing one after this video and this comment.
@crash_often2 жыл бұрын
:D
@titusamericanus5699 Жыл бұрын
I swear by Allah, if you guys can put a membrane and show continued signs of growth, I will buy this product
@CharaChorder Жыл бұрын
@@titusamericanus5699 We added the membrane last month! :)
@Nathan3o42 жыл бұрын
Such a great in-depth review! I’ve been considering getting one of these keyboards and your review showed so much more than the website and KZfaq videos did. Can’t wait to see your update video once you’re more comfortable with it!
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Update video is out!
@Titanfinger Жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Pin your comment update for CHarachorder on top of this Video so everybody sees it. I accidently saw it ;)
@aeas35992 жыл бұрын
Thank you man for posting this review. It's very difficult to find characorder experiences as im thinking about buying it.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for sure! There's not a lot of reviews out there as I think it's still a relatively small number of people who have bought it and gotten used to it enough to feel comfortable to review. Not to mention the number of folks who are comfortable to get on video and record it. I am only 6 days in (well today is my 7th) so my review doesn't carry a ton of weight yet but I'll hopefully update this later as I have more thoughts.
@aeas35992 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain let us know your updates, thank you!
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@aeas3599 Will do. Since the video, I am up to 64 wpm as my new top speed. Progressing is lots of fun! Feels like a game for sure (which helps). Maybe I'll target a 1 month in video.
@krisaaron57712 жыл бұрын
I have a neurological disability that makes using a qwerty keyboard with accuracy and speed difficult -- so I'm constantly searching for improved devices. Your review is VERY helpful! The qwerty keyboard was invented along with the typewriter and was designed to impede users -- even then, typists were exceeding the fastest input speed the machine could handle! I'm surprised those antiquated qwerty designs are still in use with computers that can work with speeds in excess of 500 words per minute! It's definitely time we phased out qwertys, so the CharaChorder and its upgrades may signal the end to clumsy, primitive keyboards. And although this version screams "BETA TEST!!" it's still much-needed progress. You're proving that the human brain is sufficiently pliable to handle multiple muscle-memory sequences; we can learn to both qwerty AND Chord without the agony a forced change typically brings!
@SepticIndia Жыл бұрын
One of the best comments out there.
@taha-mirza Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, sorry to hear about your disability, try using your voice for auto typing.
@PapaLuigi1212 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an update on your progress and maybe a typing test. Thanks for the upload!
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Upload video out!
@andrewshk8441 Жыл бұрын
This was such a nice video! Thank you so much. You broke down the important parts and explained it all. This is the only review I found so far. I'm pretty fast with QWERTY keyboards as I'm a professional software engineer, so I'm a bit hesitant to try this😅 but I have a good feeling, so I'll probably get it and see how it goes.
@maxfrederickson2 жыл бұрын
Veddy intedesting. Keep us updated on your progress. The holidays are behind us, and I hope you've fully recovered from Covid.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Update video out, will plan to keep them coming, maybe monthly
@fredharvey97422 жыл бұрын
Is the updated review posted already? I'm not sure how to find it if it is.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@fredharvey9742 Here you go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMCKqpyGtszMg40.html
@mbrsart2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Saw this thing on TikTok and I was like, "Wow that looks interesting. It might be useful." Still interested in it, but I've already got a keyboard I love and I don't know if I'd use one of these enough to justify the money.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Keep your eye on me as I grow with it and maybe I will be able to convince you! Or maybe I'll fail miserably, we shall see. Either way, don't discount it just yet, I think it's only going to improve going forward so make sure to check back later.
@hem28212 жыл бұрын
This really caught my attention. Thanks for the review, like others have said it seems to still be under the radar at the moment
@Titanfinger Жыл бұрын
Very well explained, 10 times better then all Videos from Charachroder creator themselfs! Thank you!
@ChrisBrogan2 жыл бұрын
I'm really grateful for your review. It was exactly what I wanted and your pre-information (that you're fast) was VERY helpful (as I am fastish, as well)
@petedude2lu32 жыл бұрын
this is the perfect device to control some serious robots
@devonlabuda95392 жыл бұрын
2 week update? I just bought one, I’m a somewhat poor QWERTY typer but I think the 3D experience will really change my typing experience. Could really be a game changer.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
My week update: I've progress a little on top speed (82 wpm) but my average is definitely improving! I am still practicing using the LaunchPad software and am mixing in non-spurring mode and monkeytype now. Hopefully my 1 month video for CC will show some good typing, we shall see. Still highly recommend. I hear that the device is sold out through the rest of the year.
@jww0007 Жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain update?
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
@@jww0007 Hey man, I did a "7 months" update not too long ago called "Your Questions Answered" or something similar. Check out the channel!
@acoston062 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! I’ve seen a few people using it on Tiktok, but it’s almost exclusively showing off speed. The creator’s videos are great, but they don’t fully demonstrate a ton. I was seriously considering buying one, and this video most definitely solidified it. Interested to see how things progress for you! If I understand correctly is there also a mouse feature and would you be able to explain how it works typing one-handed? They’ve advertised use of the full keyboard with one hand, but is that an actual reasonable feature or is it just technically possible? I’ll check out their discord too. Thanks for the great info!! Looking forward to your next video.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I do think that experienced users would be able to type one-handed but of course not at nearly the same speeds. The concept/idea is that there is a direction on the "large" switch that's on either half of the CharaChorder that when pressed, will "mirror" all the keys you press afterwards. So in other words, left thumb up is "v" but if I press and hold that switch and then do left thumb up it is "p" which is normally right thumb up. Hope that makes sense. I'm lagging behind on making my next video because of the Thanksgiving holidays, some personal travel I was doing as well as some busy stuff at work but I plan to do one soon
@ArmadusMalaysia Жыл бұрын
I want to put that on my steering wheel so that I can reply to messages while focusing on the road.
@jackwilliam44362 жыл бұрын
This review is very interesting. However, I still have questions. 1) Do you know how they decided to link those characters and functions together, despite the fact that it should make it more difficult to make the switch from QWERTY to the CharaChorder ? For instance, at 7:23, you can see that the same C, K, M and V are linked together, on the same key. However, on a QWERTY, half of these characters are on the right side of the keyboard (K and M), while the other half are on the left side (C and V). Doesn't it make it more confusing for beginners who have spent decades using a QWERTY ? Won't it make it much more difficult for CharaChorder users to (re)adapt to a QWERTY, when they don't have an alternative (for instance, at work, if they left their CC at home and have to make do with a more conventional keyboard) ? 2) How easy or difficult is it to insert numbers and special characters such as %, @ or parenthesis ? 3) How easy or difficult is it to insert accents (like ü, ö, è, à, ...) ? Some languages require the constant use of accents (like french or german, for instance). 4) Is it compatible with any computer or even with a smartphone that has a large screen ? 5) Does the word recognition feature work with different languages, or just in english ? 6) How do you ensure no dust enters the device ? You did show us the very big holes at the base of every joystick.
@jackwilliam44362 жыл бұрын
@Nuffin Migga Thanks for the answer.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Wow, not sure why I did not get a notification for your comment. 1) I am not sure why the choices were made, but I can tell you it feels just fine how they are. In some cases it seems like they have split more common letters between the left and right hand to enable more natural chording. It isn't difficult at all to learn where the keys are; you can do that in just about an hour with the device. 2) It's fairly easy. Just hold the Num shift which is on the pinky then type the numbers you want. Shift + Num shift + the number for the special characters 3) However you can type these characters normally stays the same. In other words, if you have your OS to enable typing of these it will match the same with the CharaChorder. The OS just sees it as a keyboard...which answers a few of your other questions too. 4) You can use it on any device where you could plug in a USB keyboard (phone included). 5) You can customize your own chords, for your own language--some languages aren't yet supported and are on the roadmap to expand for full support; the Discord community will know more than I on this subject. For sure right now it is optimized for English. 6) Good question. I don't have a great answer. It is a legitimate design flaw in my opinion.
@cassandrabanana12 жыл бұрын
QERTY was made so people didn't type too fast when using the first keyboards because they couldn't process fast enough. Moving away from QWERTY is probably for the best for everyone.
@jackwilliam44362 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions. 🙂
@parlok Жыл бұрын
That white keyboard is beautiful
@handcoding2 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful info-thank you for making this!
@blahblah119892 жыл бұрын
Great video. This looks like a very interesting device. I have one question, does it have a built in mouse/point and click like feature? Seems like could be easy to integrate via a users thumb or something. One little pet peeve of mine is having to move my hand from keyboard to mouse
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Yes, on the device there is a switch for both the left and right hands which lets you operate the mouse. Then there are buttons for right click, left click Moving with the mouse isn't amazing right now (it moves up, down, left, right). Diagonal is semi supported but it is more like stepped movement (move up, move left, move up, move left) etc. I suspect over time that could get better with firmware updates
@robertfontaine36502 жыл бұрын
No updates yet?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Will use this comment to hopefully figure out how everyone can see this. I have no update because when Thanksgiving and the Christmas holidays hit I lost all of my free time available to practice with the CharaChorder. I also since that time have gotten sick in Covid as well as had some travel to do, so I haven't had any time to make an update video but more importantly any time to focus on practicing CC. I still strongly believe in the CC and will be making the update video, it's just quite a bit delayed--sorry about that!
@robertfontaine36502 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Thanks. I'm playing with steno currently. The charchorder looks a little janky on the build quality but the idea reminds me of the old datahand. Very cool.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@robertfontaine3650 I do believe Riley was inspired by the datahand if I'm not mistaken. I've seen him chat about it in the Discord
@VoidAV2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain I came looking for an update on your progess as well.
@robinedgar14272 жыл бұрын
Another here looking for an update :) Get well soon!
@akhileshakhil4390 Жыл бұрын
Hello John, Thank you for making this video. I have couple of questions. Q1. Can you compare this with that of TAPXR or TAPStrap 2. In terms of Speed of typing Q2. Which one is more likely to be used in future because TAP keyboard also uses Chording technology, in future VR is going to be used by most of them, hence in that condition should we use TAP instead of CharaChorder. Q3. For programmers or coders, which one would you recommend. Thank you
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Q1. The speed of typing on this device would be much faster. The TAPXR and TAPStrap use microchording which is pressing multiple keys to output a letter, which is helpful to reduce the number of buttons and one handed typing. Whereas macrochording (pressing multiple letters and getting words) is more powerful using two hands . Q2. I think both the CharaChorder and TAP are decent for VR, it depends on the use case in VR. If VR workstation, the CharaChorder is great because there is only one position for your hands and easy to find without seeing it at all. Q3. I think again, subjective, but for speed while typing at a desk, there is no comparison the CharaChorder will be the better device
@SebastianVik2 жыл бұрын
You didn't show yourself using it even once xP
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. First video, wasn't really setup the best for filming. I have other videos on my KZfaq and TikTok that show me typing it though
@Amorgun19902 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, please make one with 2 POVs: corder (you typing) and the screen showing the text input. Thanks.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Hey there, my update video includes some of this. It's a bit challenging to get a great camera setup for this... I'll definitely try to work on it so it is easier to see
@stolinski2 жыл бұрын
Looks very cool, but the build quality for the price is very questionable.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough--I definitely think the build quality is something the team recognizes as could use improving and they will work on that as they scale more. Right now it's a small team producing these, but I am hopeful for their future as they grow. I think the value of the product is still much higher even with the build quality as it provides a pretty unique functionality and form factor but to each his own of course! I hope my video helped you form your own opinion about the product.
@ZacDiggity2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the mouse functionality? I'm interested in pairing that with eye-tracking to reduce the number of times I need to move my hands away from the keyboard during the day.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
The mouse functionality is usable but not amazing. The switches for moving the mouse are exactly that--switches, so the movement is moving the mouse in directions only (think like an old school Etch a Sketch could only move in a direction at a time). You can combine movements between the left and right hand to make complex movements and I could see someone getting very good at it. The mouse settings are configurable too, so that for example if you press left on one mouse switch it moves at one speed and if you press left on the other mouse switch simultaneously it will move at a different speed, allowing you to have a fast and a slow mode.
@ZacDiggity2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Very cool about the different speeds... Yea, I surmised it might be like the IBM 'pointing stick'. Thanks for confirming!
@malcolmgay22062 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your in-depth review
@usssztorm14102 жыл бұрын
2:09 then pet the dog you monster
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Haha he gets plenty of pets don't you worry
@BroMonkey2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am also cautious given the lack of user reviews.
@benshern81702 жыл бұрын
Is it hard to use with numbers, punctuation, and control keys? how well would it work for programming?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
No, not hard at all. It takes some getting used to of course but I believe it'd be really great for programming. Join us in the discord and ask around--lots of discussion around this topic
@christofinb2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t they invent a keyboard that gives a choice of predictive text so have a normal keyboard but with tiny touchscreen so you can select words to go on your main screen on your computer ? I can type much faster using predictive text on a mobile device than on a traditionalist keyboard, surely there is something that can incorporate this technology to use on a pc ?
@MrMinecraftGamer4562 жыл бұрын
check out how East Asian countries type
@anon_ninja2 жыл бұрын
You mean a MacBook Pros touchbar
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting concept for sure! That might help in the medium typing speed range, but I would worry about having to take my attention away from what I am wanting to type to look down at the device. Maybe something that could be implemented on screen so it's not too far away from where you are already looking.
@DanielRees Жыл бұрын
Greetings, John! I have a question! I'm considering purchasing the new qwerty keyboard they are advertising. Do you think this would help with the learning curve due to the, "already familiar with the keyboard" versus needing to learn a whole new system?
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I did a review video on it too, the CharaChorder Lite. You can hear some of my opinions there. I think it is a great introduction into chording and immediately let's you get benefits. I do think long term, for me, the CC1 is the way to go but it's going to take lots of time to master so each person would have to consider that. Let me know on that video if you have any questions about it
@KENTOSI2 жыл бұрын
Hey dude thanks for this video. It's been about a months now. How are you coming along with the typing (chording?) speed?
@SujithAbraham2 жыл бұрын
Would like to know this as well.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Sorry y'all, something is weird with my youtube--I thought I've been responding to everything. Anyway, there's an update video out now, go check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMCKqpyGtszMg40.html
@arshamskrenes2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. Please definitely make a follow-up video or two to show your progress. I'm also interested if you get any hand fatigue as early signs of say carpal tunnel. I'm hoping the natural hand positioning means no, but your experience would be great.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Hey, update video out! The most so far I've used the CC nonstop is a few hours and no pains at all. It is a rather natural hand position so I don't foresee any issues at all
@KevinToppenberg2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this helpful review.
@Dee-bl7tc Жыл бұрын
TNice tutorials helped sooo much!
@mikeatwell2 жыл бұрын
Hawkeye!!!
@theeightbithero2 жыл бұрын
I think that this is also a game changer for the VR world. I think if they attached this to a belt you could ware so that you can rest the two peaces rest at a resting position on your legs, it would open the floodgates to working in VR.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough I think Riley has a video in the Discord floating around of having one of these attached to his belt
@theeightbithero2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain I saw that right after I commented this when I tried to buy one. I’d like to try out this typing system, but I’m kinda broke. I think you guys do have a Revolutionary product on your hands with VR, but you might have to try to make it cheaper. Then again. VR people are generally not broke. Have you guys thought about trying to introduce this to the VR headset companies? Figuring out how to type has been slowing that market down a lot. I know apple is trying to make apple glasses, and I bet this product would exponentially accelerate on the go in public computing.
@jonathanwoelfle37212 жыл бұрын
Would Love to see an update on your progress!
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Update video out!
@XeroShifter2 жыл бұрын
Man the thing looks great and looks like it could be a ton of fun. There is just an unfortunate amount of looming issues around the technology in general. Its hard to commit to $250 for a keyboard which may not work on Windows 12 if the company doesn't make it. Let alone to have spent months developing a skill which would forever be useless at that point. Especially since the software for adding chords is web-based, which means that if the website ever goes so does half the functionality of the device. And that's not to say that I think the company is bad or anything, its just reality that a ton of companies don't make it. Aaaauuhgh. I still want it though -_-.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert here, but here's my take: the worry about Windows 12 isn't a real concern; if your keyboard you have today will work on Windows 12 then so will the CharaChorder. There's no software at all it's all firmware; the processing is done on the CC itself and the computer just recognizes it as a normal keyboard so shouldn't have any issues at all even if the company was nuked off the face of the earth tomorrow. As far managing chords--that's not true anymore, as of firmware 0.8.2 which was just released after this video there's something called Impulse chords, which lets you make a chord directly by using shortcuts on the device itself! But, I see your point. Definitely will take months to master. If you lost or broke the device and the company wasn't there, you'd no longer get to use that functionality... but yeah, if you think it's a good product one way to make sure the company lasts is to support it :D
@Shlooomth2 жыл бұрын
I want this but I feel like my brain is already too immersed in the QWERTY layout but the potential of the chording function makes me want to try learning this new layout
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
For me, I chose the Charachorder One because I thought learning something as new as chording might as well be on a brand new layout rather than trying to change my typing habits on QWERTY to adjust for chording.
@andrewsandoval2685 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely can do it, I learnt how to type qwerty at 18 from 30 wpm hunt and peck to 115. I want to get this keyboard but the cost seems so prohibitive
@Bleizish2 жыл бұрын
How does it work if you need to type in different languages?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! I'm not super familiar with typing in other languages on the CC... but I know the community has had a ton of discussions about it in the Discord community. Hope you have better luck there! My understanding is some other languages are supported with more coming
@Bleizish2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Thanks John!
@Meezyb332 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!! Mine comes in tomorrow
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
How are you liking it?
@Meezyb332 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain not going to lie, I haven’t been practicing, I got the alphabet down thats about it. I’m gonna start doing one hour practice sessions daily
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@Meezyb33 Start smaller! Achievable steps. Do 15 or 30, an hour might burn you out.
@Meezyb332 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain hm, you think? I think that’s what happened the first time. I think I’ll start with 30 minutes. Time flies when I’m practicing anyway
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@Meezyb33 I am using keybr.com with a 30 minute daily goal for now, but I often go over lol
@t-dude73722 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. What's the actuation force of the switches like? Is it more difficult to actuate than a standard keyswitch? How does it compare to using a joystick on something like a Playstation controller?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't compare them to the joysticks on a Playstation or Xbox controller--I would rather compare them to the D pad. The force is very similar to the D pad on my Xbox Elite Controller in terms of actuation force, maybe even a little less considering the height of the switches. They aren't hard to press at all, and they don't seem to get accidentally triggered
@t-dude73722 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain If you don't mind me asking, how much time do you typically spend at a computer in a day? I'm wondering if the Charachorder would cause more finger fatigue with prolonged use than a normal keyboard. With typing, the only time your fingers are under any kind of pressure is when pressing the key down. With a 5-way switch, your fingers would be under pressure throughout the entire travel distance until the switch actuates and back to the resting point.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@t-dude7372 Yeah, not sure. I mean, your fingers have to move WAY less with the CC because they can stay on the "home row" if you will...and to me, actuating the press doesn't feel much harder if not easier than pressing the keys on my mechanical keyboard (with cherry browns) I spend, I would imagine, 10-11 hours a day on the computer on weekdays, less on the weekend (3 or 4).
@t-dude73722 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Okay, cool. Thanks for the responses and info!
@natashae28522 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I'm a writer with ADHD who types fast..but probably has "faster thoughts." I'm considering this. My only hang up is spending time learning a new typing style. Might get boring (LOL).
@wandersail6962 жыл бұрын
Have you used this for gaming? With one hand on the mouse, could you do the things a regular keyboard could do with the other hand?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I have! It takes a bit to get your keybindings set up. But totally; we've discussed more about this in the Discord #gaming channel, you should come on by.
@sagerwraps9990 Жыл бұрын
The most important question is, can you play doom with it?
@daskdask2 жыл бұрын
Great video! How's it working now that it's been another two months?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Update video out!
@Mr_Kweeba2 жыл бұрын
I'm still non-the-wiser after watching the video of how it works. I think I'll stick to a normal keyboard thanks. Whoever invented it (I believe it's sold through Kickstarter or was originally) needs help with marketing and actually finishing the product ready for market, especially at the price as it looks like it was done in an electronics workshop. Nothing wrong with that as a beta product but not full market release. The inventors said they spent the money developing their product and not on marketing or video production, however I've seen kids do better video production from their bedroom so there's no excuses for their poor advertising videos, and these days you have to have the full package. Just wait until the Chinese factories start churning these out, patent or no patent!
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Valid criticisms. One day they will have this much, much more polished I am sure, from a total product perspective. If you are still interested, I could try to explain in a video how exactly it works and some of the features if helpful?
@Mr_Kweeba2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Thank you John, that would be most helpful I'm sure, and thank you for the time and effort you've put into this already.
@asdfsfasdfasd Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, does it allow alt tabbing and can it trigger F1-f12 hotkeys?
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Yes. and yes. Almost all things you can do on a normal keyboard are possible on this one short a few small keys, but those are going to be possible in a future firmware update when full rebinding ability is available
@asdfsfasdfasd Жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain cool, thanks for the response my friend.
@rossbrigolimusic2 жыл бұрын
It’s promising but it needs a lot of work in mechanical design and build quality. Soon enough a similar chinese product might come out with better design. I hope they secured a patent for this. The Chinese are already typing in latin alphabets to generate chinese characters.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I believe the CharaChorder engine, which powers the chording functionality of the device, is patented.
@joshuagoldstein81162 жыл бұрын
How well would this work for software developers? Does the product allow typing square brackets and curly braces?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I'm not personally one but I could see how this device along with custom chords and cursor warping (join the discord and find out what that means) it would be amazing for programming!
@niccolosmith54992 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video👍👍
@ToyKeeper2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the info. Your channel's "videos" tab says you have no videos though. Did you un-list this?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Odd, no, I didn't. I have one other video that should be there as well covering Launchpad specifically, the software for training the CC. I'll look into it, thanks!
@ToyKeeper2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Looking again, it now lists two videos instead of zero.
@senhalil Жыл бұрын
This might become something is they can managed to make the chorder "learn" new words "automagically". I can't imagine constantly adding new words while coding in different projects.
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
I couldn't really imagine it either, but it takes about 2 seconds to create a new chord with impulse chording. I think it's important to know how the chord is created, too, because some movements are more comfortable than others
@toriwolvesful Жыл бұрын
How hard do you have to press the 'keys' to type with the characorder? I have a lot of issues with my hands so am looking for an alternative to qwerty. Thank you!
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Not very hard at all. It is a bit different of a motion, for sure, than the traditional keyboard press since it is more like moving your finger to the side. I don't think or know of any direct like force measurements to give you as a comparison but it is relatively easy to trigger them
@FTF-hs5ll2 жыл бұрын
Could you please elaborate on the software needed to use the keyboard. Do I understand correctly, that to make full use of the keyboard it is necessary to download and run a program on the device you're using? That would seem like a massive security / privacy risk and it's nonstarter with regards to using this keyboard with a work PC.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Hey there. Thanks for watching. Sorry it was initially clear--there is absolutely no software to download. You just plug the keyboard in via USB and it's treated like a keyboard. The on board firmware is what gives you access to the GTM to configure settings. To manage chords you can either impulse chord, go through the GTM, or use the web based software that CharaChorder provides on their website (no download necessary!)
@Meezyb332 жыл бұрын
Checking in- haven’t practiced much at all. Kind of forgot about it. Picking it up full speed again. How’s your progress?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I've slowed my practice a bit on the CC1 because I got in my beta CharaChorder Lite device. I'll be likely be making an update video on that to give my thoughts as it totally surprised me how much I am loving it.
@mayavik10342 жыл бұрын
What's your WPM?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Check out my latest video to see where I am now, after my long break
@ariellareiss11232 жыл бұрын
1 month update? Would recommend to mild-moderate computer user with no custom keyboard experience? Or show numerical (accounting) entry and page/app/window nav? You da best 🙏🏼
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
2 month update out! I think anyone can learn to use the CharaChorder. I am willing to bet most people will not get to super fast speeds because there is a learning curve. I think getting to moderate speeds on the CC is relatively easy and something that a mild to moderate computer user could learn--just realize it takes practice like anything else.
@maan.patel.88082 жыл бұрын
your pointer is when you’re talking
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
hmm? Not sure what you mean by this comment lol. Either way, thanks for watching :D
@mikeraphone99602 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll stick to a keyboard
@wnbglobetrotter65592 жыл бұрын
Nice i only needed to see 60% of the video to find out how this thing works, witch is the only reason that i watched this video, and then i can only see that the key is practis like it is for normal 10 finger writing....
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
You missed some points of the video then, lol.
@jhoravi12 жыл бұрын
Strange that you didn't mention steno and plover in comparison.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's strange at all. There are other videos that talk about stenography vs CharaChorder and I personally don't have experience in steno. Steno, while similar, is different than the CC because you spell phonetically. You lose the ability to do character entry like you can do with the CC. I'm vaguely familiar with fingerspelling but that largely seems to be accepted as not efficient. As for plover, I don't know much about it. I am sure it is great software! But again, as I don't have any steno experience I can't really comment. I think the creators of CharaChorder may have videos or comments about that though if you are curious!
@StephenRayner Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video showing you writing code with it? HTML or Javascript
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
I don't think I'm the best person as I'm not a programmer, but maybe you could get a response in the discord!
@somegirl5rock2 жыл бұрын
How is it using windows shortcuts? Copy paste etc
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Oh copy and paste is the best! Because both c and v are on the left hand and opposite each other...so it's just ctrl with right ring finger up + left thumb down then same but left thumb up to paste
@somegirl5rock2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain welp, looks like I'll be buying one. I'm a retired massage therapist (13 yrs), former musician, and current paralegal, my hands are wrecked. Something like this would seriously rule.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@somegirl5rock Great! If you know how to use Discord, you should join us there and chat about it--the community is lovely.
@somegirl5rock2 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain I've never tried discord but I'll attempt to dabble this weekend
@christopherpieper39372 жыл бұрын
Are you still loving it?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I use both my CharaChorder One and my CharaChorder Lite daily.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am still loving it!
@christopherpieper39372 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Im about to buy either one today. I dont know which one i want to start with. Any ideas? lol I feel like charachorder one could be faster although i will need to learn how to map the layout and practice. Does it feel different in trying to memorize chords with the Lite versus Charachorder One?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpieper3937 I'd love to chat more with you about the differences between the two. Add me on Discord or join the charachorder discord and I can explain to you my thoughts there! (Aphit#0785)
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpieper3937 But if you don't want to get onto Discord for now, my recommendation really depends on how much time and effort you are willing to put into it. I am still not up to my fastest speeds on CharaChorder One but I believe the skill ceiling is highest with the One. With the Lite, I was immediately able to use it and have the same speed to my QWERTY and on my very first day and week with it I was able to learn a few chords and break my record speeds. It has an immediate return on investment, time wise, but the Lite has a lot of the same issues as a normal QWERTY keyboard considering ergonomics etc. I love both. Lite is my daily driver but I am steadily using my One more and more each day to improve at it as long term it's the device I want to use full time.
@PilotPlater2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Where are you at now?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Plan to make an update video soon. My average is around 50-60 wpm chording now in the practice sets (as opposed to a top speed). My top speed on a practice set of 10 words was over 150 wpm :D
@rc50912 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain I'm watching out for your follow up review also! I'm thinking about getting this but keep talking myself out of it because of the "chording" aspect of it. I have a hard time even thinking of all the letters that make up a word. :)
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
@@rc5091 I think the interesting thing that even in the QWERTY world you will hear about is that as you get to really fast typing speeds generally the words aren't being typed by typing individual letters anyway. In my brain, when I type the word "word" it's all coming out in almost one keystroke anyway on the QWERTY and that's what allows me to get up to the ~1min 140+wpm average and ~190+ wpm 10 word bursts etc. on a QWERTY keyboard. With the CharaChorder it's exactly the same, except you can do that with fewer letters needed (for example the is t+h instead of needing to do t+h+e), as well as the timings are much better. i+m+p is important and I can type it as i+m+p or p+m+i or +m+i+p so it just becomes a "hand gesture" for lack of a better word that then means important. I think the more we use these things the more our brain will just start to associate the entire word with those movements and you won't be thinking about it--it'll be muscle memory. Practice makes perfect though and that's probably the topic of my next video. I think this thing does require quite a bit of time investment to get to the really, really fast speeds
@rc50912 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain I agree...You def don't think about the individual letters. I have tried to think in words and where all of my fingers would go at the same time on my keyboard and it blows my mind but...again...that's where the practice comes in. :) Thanks for the reply and I'll def watch another video if you decide to do one.
@rc50912 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Oh...one other question I have...have you noticed your qwerty typing being impacted by learning with characorder? Or, are they different enough methods that you are still able to type proficiently with qwerty?
@weitzhandler Жыл бұрын
Does the characorder feature a built in mouse?
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Yes, but not in a traditional way. I made a video on using the mouse and my thoughts on it
@weitzhandler Жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain you mean using shortcuts? How about precise-dragging and zooming shapes? Like a 3D mouse and 3D keyboard combined? (See 3DConnexion)
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
@@weitzhandler The mouse control lets you move in the x and y directions, but think like an etch a sketch. To get diagonal you can combine. The switches do not have an up or rotate like the 3d connexion has (I have one on my desk :))
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
IMO the mouse control is limited, but you can do precise dragging and zooming of shapes
@weitzhandler Жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain for a geek and programmer, would you recommend moving to charachorder for good and eventually difficult traditional kb?
@cjsheu2 жыл бұрын
Is the text prediction able to deal with typos involving the space bar?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I would call it text prediction. To answer your question, if you accidently chord the space bar as part of a chord I'm not actually sure what it will do, I will have to try it out!
@coronaklledmebot48562 жыл бұрын
im 80wpm with 99% acc see my playlist
@nylapinsam60832 жыл бұрын
Great content. But $250? I think I dont need it then. Traditional Keyboard is fine for me.
@PTRCAIIO Жыл бұрын
Do they still have a discord? Can’t find the link on their website for it 🤷🏻♂️
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
discord.gg/GVGkEPQDj3
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Found it on www.charachorder.com/pages/get-started
@manny3842 жыл бұрын
Cool, where can I find their discord?
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
discord.gg/CY4b4Hmp77
@manny3842 жыл бұрын
@@JohndeStGermain Thank you
@evancallahan86472 жыл бұрын
This seems absurd to me. I might be wrong but im testing the dexterity i have with my ring and pinky fingers and theres 0 chance ill have the ability to use this efficiently. Those fingers needs lots of room for error when using them
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
You aren't wrong that it takes some work to be able to use those fingers...the easy chords are when those are used in purely an up or down motion, but the other ones aren't too bad. I think the hardest chords are when you have, for example, an index finger going down and a ring finger going to the side on the same hand. These are movements you are not used to it. But like all new things, with enough practice, I think you can get a hang of it. As an update to others looking forward to another video from me--I had teased I might do it at a month but the holidays and then some personal stuff has set me back from keeping on top of practicing with the CC. I plan to pick it back up but it's not likely until after the holidays.
@ReactionShot2 жыл бұрын
This looks baffling.
@JohndeStGermain2 жыл бұрын
It is complex technology but really simple usage. Your brain already thinks in words and you just need to associate the muscle memory to those words for the various chords, or fallback to character entry.
@McJaews Жыл бұрын
I'm really not going to sit through the review when you have an affiliate link in the description. You're directly benefiting from hyping it up and misrepresenting it in order to get people to buy it. It's about as trustworthy a setup as the inventor of the FingerChopper 2000 putting up a video about how safe his invention is to use.
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Except you miss the fact where this review is not a paid sponsorship. I became an affiliate of CharaChorder over half a year after I posted these videos. Everything said on this channel is my own opinion and isn't driven by the company in any way. But thanks for coming by. I use my charachorder one daily, can't believe I get hate for wanting to share that with the community (and help folks out who want to purchase with a discount code).
@whereisthehook Жыл бұрын
Do they have a tool that helps make KZfaq videos? If so, you should buy one.
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
Ouch bud. Thanks for that that!
@niklaskras5498 Жыл бұрын
Horrible build quality for 300 bucks
@JohndeStGermain Жыл бұрын
The only thing I really disliked was seeing the PCB but since I posted this video new CC1s come with a rubber grommet that is between the black shell and the PCB. Also, it now has a custom case as well for carrying it around which is nice...so yes, I agree with you some bad aspects but really has a premium feel to it with the aluminum switches