What Was Life Really Like In A Victorian Workhouse? | Secrets From The Workhouse

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Absolute History

Absolute History

3 жыл бұрын

In Victorian England the Workhouse formed the basis of society. The poor and destitute entered Workhouses to receive free health care and food. But in a society that viewed poverty as a crime, these workhouses were never meant to comfort. It was a means to punish the destitute and encourage future independence. In this two-part documentary, several UK celebrities explore how their ancestors survived the difficult environment of the Workhouse and discover some unexpected family secrets which shock and inspire them in turn.
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@denniscooper281
@denniscooper281 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandmother was born at Lewisham workhouse in 1897 to an unmarried mother. My Gran was a wonderful woman whose life experience gave her an understanding of other's problems. Her great grandson was born in the same building, now a hospital, in 2001.
@pigy136
@pigy136 2 жыл бұрын
some of the buildings still exist relatively intact in ladywell (a place in lewisham)
@rebeccafoster8765
@rebeccafoster8765 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing story. Ty for sharing.
@keztukariri
@keztukariri 10 ай бұрын
That's a cool lil story 😊 what an awesome connection there with the her grandson. Thanks for sharing 🙂
@Sullywoo
@Sullywoo Ай бұрын
Hi, I know a long time has passed since your original post. Thanks for it. How old was Gran when she passed?
@noellewithane6111
@noellewithane6111 3 жыл бұрын
“You’ll end up in the poor house” means more to me now than it did when I heard my grandparents use the term. 😦
@LuchadorMasque
@LuchadorMasque 3 жыл бұрын
It was essentially a death sentence
@noellewithane6111
@noellewithane6111 3 жыл бұрын
What about the saying “Over my dead body”. 😲
@edgilmore3445
@edgilmore3445 3 жыл бұрын
@@noellewithane6111 p0
@michaelhenderson8661
@michaelhenderson8661 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about that term,I heard it as a child.
@vernaharris4700
@vernaharris4700 3 жыл бұрын
So sad.😥
@jeanross7430
@jeanross7430 3 жыл бұрын
This is horrific. How resilient the survivors of this system must have been. I realise now why Charles Dickens wanted to draw attention to this dark part of the Victorian era by writing about it.
@cherryrotella3714
@cherryrotella3714 3 жыл бұрын
All this suffering was on Queen Victoria’s watch, monarch of the richest and most powerful nation of the time 😔
@MrsGranpaws
@MrsGranpaws 3 жыл бұрын
@@cherryrotella3714 it is still going on today. There is very little love n charity in places
@okboomer600
@okboomer600 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Dickens family at one time were in debtors prison so he saw first hand how the poor were treated.
@MrsGranpaws
@MrsGranpaws 2 жыл бұрын
@UCRDMayRFIzPKBehJzpvTTQQ thank goodness Dickens wrote about it or only scholars wld know of it. U can understand why some novels are important to have in the school curriculum. History should b a compulsory subject. Thankfully, Victoria's husband Albert was far sighted n did a lot to help ease the populace's hardship.
@MrsGranpaws
@MrsGranpaws 2 жыл бұрын
And as in France, the Autocratic families had no idea of the poor. Famous "let them eat cake" was because Marie Antoinette wld not have any idea of what it meant to not have any food. Misinterpreted these days as to what she meant
@christinebutler7630
@christinebutler7630 3 жыл бұрын
On truly bitter cold winter mornings, my grandmother used to say it was "cold as charity." Too accurate.
@katinamartin7934
@katinamartin7934 3 жыл бұрын
i have never heard that saying but boy does it ring true
@staceykersting705
@staceykersting705 3 жыл бұрын
Our town still has a mission with a very cold and punitive attitude towards its clients. The food is actually rotten. People throw it back up regularly. Zero compassion. People have to line up 30 minutes before the meal and maintain silence the entire time. Men and women are separated, and not allowed to speak to each other. Men are the food servers, so during the women's dinner, women are not allowed to speak up and say ,'No thanks" to the blue edged bread, soupy mashed potatoes or the horrid glop they throw on top of it all. The potatoes are also gritty. The 'soup' is just dishwater. You used to have to sit in silence listening to a preacher yell about fire and brimstone , shaming poverty and any fornication or bad habits or for not having a job that supports you. It didn't matter how elderly, mentally ill or disabled you were. All this for an hour 2x a day, for some rotten food.
@a.woodworth5182
@a.woodworth5182 3 жыл бұрын
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@lynnkilgore8062
@lynnkilgore8062 3 жыл бұрын
Q
@emily_brown
@emily_brown 3 жыл бұрын
@@katinamartin7934 and the
@vernaharris4700
@vernaharris4700 3 жыл бұрын
It appears to me that many of the people who were sent to asylums were not insane, just frustrated, neglected and depressed.😥
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 жыл бұрын
*Many of them were simply misunderstood at this time, which is extremely unfortunate. The best we can do now, is to not forget these people, and to learn from this, in order to never repeat it nor anything remotely similar to it!*
@GeorgeMonet
@GeorgeMonet 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of them were insane. There was a lot of degenerate conditions brought upon by the overuse of toxic chemicals and materials.
@deannatroy8113
@deannatroy8113 2 жыл бұрын
They were probably raped by the staff, and hidden in asylums to hide the truth.
@pigy136
@pigy136 2 жыл бұрын
were or are?
@carriebizz
@carriebizz 2 жыл бұрын
The opium they were given for pain was probably to blame for them to be classed crazy
@alanaadams7440
@alanaadams7440 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to rescue his mother. And give her the life she deserved. Good for you Mr Chaplain
@OstblockLatina
@OstblockLatina 3 жыл бұрын
Who is Chaplain?
@myyou7335
@myyou7335 3 жыл бұрын
@@OstblockLatina a very famous English silent actor/comedian in Hollywood. He was knighted in UK for his popularity in US. You'll see him in black and white. Baggy suits with a large tophat and a cane.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
@@myyou7335 I think you're referring to Chaplin, not Chaplain.
@esta1ful
@esta1ful 3 жыл бұрын
@@OstblockLatina it’s Chaplin
@geraldmilligan1853
@geraldmilligan1853 3 жыл бұрын
@@OstblockLatina and his family y
@stephanies9689
@stephanies9689 3 жыл бұрын
"I want you to have the life I should have had." That's my mantra for my child. I've been through horrors nobody should ever experience, terror and pain and severe neglect that I shouldn't have survived. Mine knows none of that. She feels safe and secure in ways I couldn't have dreamed of.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephanie S *I truly feel the same about my own child, and any children that I may have in the future. I work hard to give them opportunities that I never had, I work hard to help them avoid situations that I never had a chance of avoiding! I also see a therapist to help me with this, and to help ensure that I raise my children to be the happiest & best adults they can be. I figure that I can break the cycle if I work hard enough at it, and that my children will be able to reap the benefits of this, and that makes me happy. Best wishes and prayers to you and your children as well!*
@tinamacintyre2423
@tinamacintyre2423 3 жыл бұрын
You are a good mom. I feel the same way about my daughter. She has a much better childhood than I had.
@IdeologieUK
@IdeologieUK 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most poignant, beautiful comment I have ever read. As a parent, I share your wish for your children. As to your good self, I hope you’ve healed your past. Bless you and yours!
@vernaharris4700
@vernaharris4700 2 жыл бұрын
You are amazing. I pray God's blessing upon your family.😊❤🌺
@belltowersubductions5104
@belltowersubductions5104 3 жыл бұрын
Ireland hasn’t forgotten the Workhouses. We couldn’t forget them if we wanted to. Not as long as the Potato Famine is taught in our history classes. My school was built in an old workhouse. There was a memorial just outside the entrance across the road where construction crews had come across a mass grave. There is no word to describe them, no better or worse, than a nightmare.
@mossycryptid
@mossycryptid 2 жыл бұрын
could you explain what you know, if you don't mind me asking? i'd like to understand...
@belltowersubductions5104
@belltowersubductions5104 2 жыл бұрын
@@mossycryptid Which part in particular?
@paleface4404
@paleface4404 2 жыл бұрын
@@belltowersubductions5104 The part where British are blamed for a natural disaster. The part where so many Irish move to the UK that 20% of our population is Irish. The part where Irish say Brits out while demanding all the perks of being in the Union. The part where you realise that most the infrastructure of Ireland and the agricultural landscape is a result of being apart of the Union. The part where you realise that Irish kids born today are a minority in Ireland and their birthright is given away to neo planters from the third world who do not bring technological advancements. But instead bring a all consuming hate for white people. That will be used while raping killing and bleeding Ireland dry. Genetically and culturally Ireland will lose more in the next 100 years than it ever did under British Rule.
@rosered5485
@rosered5485 2 жыл бұрын
@@paleface4404 Where to even start... I'll try to explain the bullet point version. If you find it interesting, feel free to look up more online or in a history book. The Irish potato famine was more than just a natural disaster. It was mainly a result of social problems. Under British rule, Irish Catholics weren't allowed to enter many professions and weren't allowed to buy their own land. Most people were forced to rent tiny plots of land from British Protestant landlords that weren't even present in Ireland. A farmer could grow triple the amount of potatoes as grain on the same plot of land. Because of this, Irish peasants relied on potatoes just to feed themselves and their family for a year. The famine might not have been so bad if relief efforts by the British Government had been serious. As it was, things only worsened the nightmare. What did England do to help? Nothing at first. England believed that the free market would end the famine. Wanna know why the free market failed to end the crisis? It's because the Irish had no money to purchase foreign grain! Why did they have no money? It's because the British made it impossible for them to work for money or own their own land! Any money they had went to paying rent. So... Why are you so angry at the Irish again? Do you have no compassion or understanding? I feel sorry for you. You must really want to have someone on whom you can take out your pent up anger.
@peterwhelan1658
@peterwhelan1658 2 жыл бұрын
It was disgusting what the English did to the Irish people. So they had no choice but to rebel.
@user-fy4uv9wb7o
@user-fy4uv9wb7o 3 жыл бұрын
His anger at what the system did to his ancestor and others is so powerful and so justified
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
All of the people shown here have since been asked to donate to charities for the poor, i have personally donated more than they did after being asked.
@kylebear8101
@kylebear8101 3 жыл бұрын
@@angrydragonslayer bunch of Scrooge’s!!
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylebear8101 they donated a bit, around two months of wages for the middle class combined, it's not much for a rich person but it's still something
@bpj1805
@bpj1805 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, those poorhouses should have never existed. Such a travesty. The poor should have just died in the street with NO help to turn to. /s
@rightwingreactionary
@rightwingreactionary 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, brilliant acting.
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 3 жыл бұрын
No father's name. Her grandmother Edit was a victim of the rich man she worked for. Once again a poor woman is blamed for the crime of a rich man. They also separated her children. Very sad and disgusting.
@AmbiCahira
@AmbiCahira 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother went to a workhouse as a child and when alzheimers took over her she reverted to the survivor she had to be as a child and started to hide cookies in plant pots and in clothes of the wardrobe and it was heartbreaking to see her mentally prevent starving through stashed cookies.
@debbiecclark6538
@debbiecclark6538 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother was widowed in 1916 when her Husband was killed in action , she was 26 with 2 young children, No benefits,no help no sympathy no care ! Told get a job or go in the workhouse which was the only option with young children ! She never forgot the cold callousness of people including family
@giuliaz974
@giuliaz974 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading “The five” by Hallie Rubenhold which tells the stories of the five women murdered by Jack the Ripper. Most if not all of them had to seek support in these workhouses and it’s unbelievably sad how hard and miserable their lives were. I recommend this book to everyone who loves reading about the lives in eras like these, it was probably the best book I’ve ever read!
@Tricia_K
@Tricia_K 3 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, I'm currently"reading" the audiobook!
@zoftigbeatnik
@zoftigbeatnik 3 жыл бұрын
I read the same book a while back. It was really good. Maybe if the Workhouse did what it was supposed to do,maybe those women would have still been alive.The Workhouse was really not a support system,it was a humiliation factory!
@Luna.3.3.3
@Luna.3.3.3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm a history NERD
@giuliaz974
@giuliaz974 3 жыл бұрын
@@zoftigbeatnik I agree! Society’s view of poor and “lost” women back then was appalling and so many lives were ruined because of it
@giuliaz974
@giuliaz974 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luna.3.3.3 you will love it! We’re all so used to hearing theories about Jack the Ripper and who he was but no one ever talks about the women he killed, thinking they were only prostitutes and therefore less worthy. But the book makes you realise they were more than that and most of them weren’t even prostitutes at all!
@samanthahowse570
@samanthahowse570 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the poor children, having to go there. The same ages as my grandchildren, omg it is absolutely heartbreaking to even think about x
@cherylloft1886
@cherylloft1886 2 жыл бұрын
I think Brian Cox, said it so very well.. No human should be treated the way they did, regardless of one's background, or even to be able to say what can be done with someone's life, so, so sad. Bless them.
@vernaharris4700
@vernaharris4700 2 жыл бұрын
You have a beautiful heart. God bless you.❤
@danskdna8550
@danskdna8550 3 жыл бұрын
Snarls her upper lip, "Are you telling me my mother was illegitimate!?" 😬
@christinecraig7473
@christinecraig7473 2 жыл бұрын
She seems like a snob.
@leonieromanes7265
@leonieromanes7265 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing her mother kept the truth of her background from her family for so long. She was trying to pass as "respectable" in a society that would denigrate her for something that she had no control over. Thank goodness we've left most of these religious guilt trips behind.
@sophieladanyi568
@sophieladanyi568 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. As if being being born to an unmarried single woman was the worst of all those horrific things that happened to her. Ugh, give me a break. Barbra really rubbed me the wrong way in this.
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophieladanyi568 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
@Skarlett00
@Skarlett00 3 жыл бұрын
Friend is a beautiful name. RIP.
@katelaloba8243
@katelaloba8243 3 жыл бұрын
The humiliation and pain of poverty is just hidden now.
@Griselda_Puppy
@Griselda_Puppy 3 жыл бұрын
*_EXACTLY!!!_*
@aprilb5451
@aprilb5451 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@twinkle3026
@twinkle3026 2 жыл бұрын
YES!
@leonieromanes7265
@leonieromanes7265 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true.
@hollyoswald7808
@hollyoswald7808 2 жыл бұрын
in the USA, they live in tents in homeless encampments and are still treated like criminals.
@martinphilip8998
@martinphilip8998 3 жыл бұрын
During the Great Depression my grandmother’s house became flagged as a place where a hobo could be fed. She came from a line of tough Welsh women but must have had a soft heart that she kept locked up.
@karensiegel6669
@karensiegel6669 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents were a mile from the railroad and were flagged as a house they could be fed. Grandma always made them fried eggs, fried potatoes and fresh milk being farmers. My mom and aunt were afraid of them so they would hide until they left. My grandfather kept a diary about each one. Their stories were heart breaking sometimes.
@martinphilip8998
@martinphilip8998 2 жыл бұрын
@@karensiegel6669 My mother and aunts were reminded not to walk through the woods. Yet times were generally pretty safe. My mother would get a nickel and take the inter urban for a tour of Pittsburgh. The black conductor never took her nickel because she always gave him a big smile. My aunts always wondered how their little sister always had something tucked away. Then they caught her plunking a button down in the collection plate. She was in trouble because the button had cost her mother 7¢ not 5¢.
@bethanymcmullen7429
@bethanymcmullen7429 3 жыл бұрын
Irene has ZERO idea how to cope with Brian Cox being so upset lmao. She's so awkward and I really feel for her because she's the bearer of bad news for Brian, and he's upset but I feel like she's so used to this as part of the history, that she's a bit taken aback by his anger.
@JoannaLamont333
@JoannaLamont333 3 жыл бұрын
It felt to me like he was angry at her, almost like he felt she was responsible merely by association of her job. I did feel for her & I felt that it should have been edited. He also took the information as a personal attack on himself & was projecting onto her. Brian Cox has some serious baggage that he needs to sort out as his reaction was either over dramatic, or misplaced.
@bethanymcmullen7429
@bethanymcmullen7429 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoannaLamont333 Personally, I read it more as him being angry that she wasn't as upset as he was about how these people were treated. She seems like a nervous laugher, and he seemed to find that quite unsettling. I certainly find it interesting how personally he took it, especially compared to Barbara who almost seemed not to want to have anything to do with the workhouse museum, and it was her mother. We also don't see them before or after, or how much knowledge about this beforehand he had, and how that might have affected his reaction. It's interesting that you bring up editing, because it certainly could have been edited to be more dramatic.
@JoannaLamont333
@JoannaLamont333 3 жыл бұрын
@@bethanymcmullen7429 I also found Bab’s reaction interesting too. I also thought that both Brian & Babs only wanted to be associated with wealth & were really upset that they were from poor stock. 🤣
@bethanymcmullen7429
@bethanymcmullen7429 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoannaLamont333 Speaking as a Canadian whose family only in the last generation moved out of solid blue collar work, I don't know if I can speak as much on the perception of class in Britain. For me, Barbara seemed much more upset to have come, so closely, from poor people, compared to the righteous fury that Brian seemed to have. But this is the first I've seen of either of them and could also be cultural differences. Fern, on the other hand, seemed utterly enthused to learn anything and everything about her past, even when it was sad.
@JoannaLamont333
@JoannaLamont333 3 жыл бұрын
@@bethanymcmullen7429 I thought Fern was genuinely interested & wanted to learn as much as she could & seemed to really empathise with what her ancestors had endured & others. But I do agree that Babs didn’t seem in the least bit interested that her mum was actually in that exact place. I think if it were me, I’d want to feel that I was in the same place as my mother once was & walking on the same ground. Nevertheless, I found it really informative & interesting. I’ve researched my family tree & I don’t have any ancestors who were in the workhouse as I thoroughly checked, but I did have several who were in Asylums. I wonder if it runs in the family? 🤣
@savannab5661
@savannab5661 3 жыл бұрын
I swear the narrator is the guy who payed Mr Carson on downtown abbey
@cassandralyris4918
@cassandralyris4918 3 жыл бұрын
It is. 😀
@LadyRose208
@LadyRose208 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is Jim Carter AKA Mister Carson
@snickerbuckle
@snickerbuckle 3 жыл бұрын
@@cassandralyris4918 I knew it!!
@gerardcollins80
@gerardcollins80 3 жыл бұрын
Ughhh! You beat me to it.
@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459
@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459 3 жыл бұрын
It is.
@i.p.956
@i.p.956 2 жыл бұрын
I can see the idea behind them - you don't starve on the street or beg, you work and you get food and shelter for it; but with no laws to protect the people working there, they were just exploited.
@GeorgeMonet
@GeorgeMonet 2 жыл бұрын
Well even in the factories prior to worker protection you also got exploited.
@strawberriandromeda
@strawberriandromeda 3 жыл бұрын
One of the ancestors being named Friend is so beautiful and touching, it makes you really warm up to a person :( 💜 I wish things had went better for him
@priscillasaravia
@priscillasaravia 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother who went through so much hardship and poverty in Ecuador not too many years after the under from Spain- was named Alegria. Happiness.
@maureenpower6459
@maureenpower6459 2 жыл бұрын
@@priscillasaravia be in
@priscillasaravia
@priscillasaravia 2 жыл бұрын
@@maureenpower6459 being**
@priscillasaravia
@priscillasaravia 2 жыл бұрын
@@maureenpower6459 my autotext messes me up. I meant to say “ being under Spain’s ruling”
@priscillasaravia
@priscillasaravia 2 жыл бұрын
@@maureenpower6459 my autotext messes me up. I meant to say “ being under Spain’s rule”
@epicellen7299
@epicellen7299 2 жыл бұрын
My great- grandfather died aged 52 years old from exhaustion. An unmarked grave shows his plight. He was put in a workhouse because his family couldn't afford to keep him!. Yet his wife, my great grandmother lay (with her parents and her children) in a family marked grave yard. Large tombstones and all in separate graves. Workhouse sufferer's weren't on the streets but they were starved and experienced brutality. So yes, English people have , and still do suffer very hard times. Not everybody is privileged.
@elizabethdugdill7180
@elizabethdugdill7180 2 жыл бұрын
So true history repeating itself blatently so sad 😞
@debshaw680
@debshaw680 3 жыл бұрын
Things haven’t changed at all. We still have people sleeping on stairs and instead of helping them, we put spikes on the ground to keep them off.
@marita6862
@marita6862 3 жыл бұрын
But yet this administration has open borders giving them everything while our citizens die
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
Deb - That is a massively uneducated comment, and disrespectful to those who really did suffer in times gone by.
@gg_ingy
@gg_ingy 3 жыл бұрын
Can't really compare those 2 things. Times have changed for the better in western countries.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@resnonverba137 how so?
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@gg_ingy and the work houses were a change for the better as well, consider looking at what happened to the truly poor prior to them.
@abe_bibobu
@abe_bibobu 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the other side of the world and the first time I've heard of a workhouse was in the Netflix series The Irregulars. As someone who had no idea what a workhouse was, I never really understood why the characters in the show had traumatic experiences in the workhouse - I initially imagined it was a sort of orphanage or housing from the government. Thanks for this documentary, it's a real eye-opener.
@amethyst5538
@amethyst5538 2 жыл бұрын
Call the midwife has a few episodes also that center around older people that grew up in the workhouse, or lived in it as a mother. Heartbreaking
@robjmck
@robjmck 3 жыл бұрын
My mother was born in a workhouse, they register births at a address not linked to the workhouse. This was 1920 so clearly well out of the Victorian period and she was born out of wedlock!
@bramsrockhopper3377
@bramsrockhopper3377 3 жыл бұрын
Harrowing stuff. We must never forget the past. Our welfare system and the NHS was hard fought for against the ruling classes who thought nothing of the poor and working class, and believed that their poverty was their fault. Things are not so far from that thinking in our society today, imho.
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's true. As someone who has had everything stolen and therefore ended up in poverty, I can confirm that - barely a day goes by where I don't get abused, treated like something on someone's shoe, assumed to be retarded, and told that me being poor is "my own fault" and "the result of my laziness and lack of intelligence". I used to constantly explain my story to show that being poor is neither my background nor my fault, but found that I never got believed. I now feel compelled to pretend to indeed be of low intelligence to keep people happy and to prevent stupid questions.
@bramsrockhopper3377
@bramsrockhopper3377 3 жыл бұрын
@@LittleKitty22 Hope you get another chance, Kitty, and can prove to the world that you’re far more than such crappy people assume. Try not to let them get to you, don’t give up hope, and keep smiling. Fingers crossed for you 🤞
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 3 жыл бұрын
@@bramsrockhopper3377 Thank you! Your words mean a lot to me. And sorry, I don't want to draw attention to myself, just wanted to show that you are right, this way of thinking hasn't changed at all.
@malisashutt6231
@malisashutt6231 3 жыл бұрын
So much easier to lay blame on the poor, that way they can look at themselves in the mirror and in public and not have to bear the burden of blame where it belongs. So they can be seen as the benevolent benefactors when they need a tax deduction or a PR boost because that truly is the only reason many of the rich or elite will go slumming themselves among the poor.
@Moonpearl121
@Moonpearl121 3 жыл бұрын
Including in this thread. People are still blamed for their own poverty. Just that now you can work several jobs and still not earn enough to live on.
@b.powell3480
@b.powell3480 3 жыл бұрын
The words from Dicken's, A Christmas Story, Mr. Scrooge: "Aren't there prisons, and the workhouses" ?
@kylebear8101
@kylebear8101 3 жыл бұрын
“Most would rather die than go there!”
@inahandbasket288
@inahandbasket288 3 жыл бұрын
@Not Sure ... Ass
@YourMomz07
@YourMomz07 3 жыл бұрын
decrease the population surplus!
@Dachusblot
@Dachusblot 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylebear8101 "If they'd rather die, they'd better do it and decrease the surplus population."
@thankyouverymuch
@thankyouverymuch 3 жыл бұрын
"They decided about who was the deserving and underserving..." Sounds like how the US treats people with disabilities. I've been trying for two decades to finish school, but the US financial aid office told my doctor that giving me any kind of financial aid would be a waste of money because, they say, "she has [name of disability], she can't do anything" (even though I was a 4.0 student and my disability is not fatal). I spent decades trying to get access to school, and meanwhile I have to fight disability discrimination by landlords who don't want someone who needs continual medical attention living on their property. Someday I will be just a name on a list, and if I'm lucky historians in 100+ years will look at my name and wonder about the life that was wasted because my community doesn't want to let me contribute to it.
@youcrazycat1
@youcrazycat1 3 жыл бұрын
Keep pushing! We believe in both of you ♥
@annieb5146
@annieb5146 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you, dear friend. Don't give up. Most Americans are rooting for you. 🇺🇸🙏❤️
@mariacherrington61920
@mariacherrington61920 2 жыл бұрын
Huge hugs
@kateh.2327
@kateh.2327 2 жыл бұрын
I worked as a supervisor for social services for 30 years... Discrimination against those with disabilities is against the law... What didn't you contact legal aid if u tried to get help n were denied it ??? I'm sorry that u have issues but I simply must disagree with your assessment of the disabled in the US .. if anything they are protected under multiple laws... I went thru University, became a supervisor in a govt job n I have multiple debilitating illnesses.... Sorry, just doesn't add up...
@okiwatashi2349
@okiwatashi2349 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 50, I can’t believe these places existed in my fathers lifetime!
@RebelAlliance42
@RebelAlliance42 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, seeing how young Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter is really brought home how recent this was. It really is an outrage! No wonder our fathers and grandfathers were so messed up!
@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934
@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934 3 жыл бұрын
And now they will be in your lifetime
@janecheshire5504
@janecheshire5504 3 жыл бұрын
My husband got twenty penny tip recently from an elderly customer! It made him smile inwardly because he understood where she had come from! If every single story from each individual could be told just to show how depraved money has made some people behave!
@DorianCairne
@DorianCairne 3 жыл бұрын
Arguably they still exist today, just not in the same places.
@anneoconnor8741
@anneoconnor8741 3 жыл бұрын
There was not a famine in ireland, there was a potato blight. The landlords exported from England made the Irish work in the fields growing crops. Even at the height of the famine ships laden with crops left Ireland while they starved. Those that could emigrated. I have no problem, brought up in England and have much loyalty to it. It would be nice if England would acknowledge that it was not a famine but systematic starvation.
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 3 жыл бұрын
They did the same in India. It never gets mentioned in history shows or in the history books either.
@shortpockets9408
@shortpockets9408 3 жыл бұрын
@@LittleKitty22 Does all of your food come from your country? We are oblivious even now.
@germyw
@germyw 3 жыл бұрын
They treated those people like shit. SMH.
@interstellarsurfer
@interstellarsurfer 3 жыл бұрын
@@germyw The English treat everyone like shit, for as long as they can get away with it. 🤷‍♂️
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
@@interstellarsurfer Thank you for such a rounded addition to the thread.
@JoMarieM
@JoMarieM 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American, and I had no idea that Charlie Chaplain's childhood was so rough! It was wonderful that he rescued his mother from the asylum and brought her to live with him in the States; however, nothing what said about what happened to his half-brother!
@jessicamitt7166
@jessicamitt7166 Жыл бұрын
Watch the movie Chaplin with Robert Downey Jr. It's really good and goes through a lot of this.
@garryhastings3383
@garryhastings3383 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my own great grandmothers were in the workhouse and one was in Deptford, London but sadly I have no idea of what happened to either one. I taught Victorian Studies and made sure my students knew the history of this institution and it's affects on generations of those who suffered within it's structure. A nightmare to have lived through that time.
@Abcdefghijk920
@Abcdefghijk920 3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn’t take care of their own people but still felt that colonization was important.
@OstblockLatina
@OstblockLatina 3 жыл бұрын
The higher class people didn't consider those from below their own people. Even the effing sufragettes mistreated and didn't care for the rights of their servants and maids.
@gg_ingy
@gg_ingy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because profit.
@veronicafaber143
@veronicafaber143 3 жыл бұрын
Is that really so different from today? Sadly I don't think it is.
@Abcdefghijk920
@Abcdefghijk920 3 жыл бұрын
@@veronicafaber143 very very very true!
@Abcdefghijk920
@Abcdefghijk920 3 жыл бұрын
@@gg_ingy always 😔
@Jayyy048
@Jayyy048 2 жыл бұрын
That lady crying that said she feels awful for them has such a big heart. Amazing.
@roxy4158
@roxy4158 2 жыл бұрын
So after crying what has she done to change a little corner of her world?
@Weeeewriter
@Weeeewriter 3 жыл бұрын
*I feel so sad for those who had to go to the poorhouse*
@spoon1968
@spoon1968 3 жыл бұрын
Is there one on the asylums too? Probably one of the only things worse than the workhouse...
@alisafun4160
@alisafun4160 3 жыл бұрын
Tons of them
@vernaharris4700
@vernaharris4700 3 жыл бұрын
So true.😥
@michellegray9806
@michellegray9806 2 жыл бұрын
I would think that in some cases both the workhouses& asylums would be on the same par with each other. Terrible cold&hard times,to be made to feel ashamed for being poor or&I'll. Disgusting!!
@Random-pt9mn
@Random-pt9mn 3 жыл бұрын
All these rich people feel so sorry about the hardships their ancestors went through. What are they doing to help the poor of today?
@gollywog6695
@gollywog6695 3 жыл бұрын
@ Random Well said!
@gg_ingy
@gg_ingy 3 жыл бұрын
Well...the show isn't done yet....What if it turns out they do stuff...you're still just gonna want to shit on rich people then, don't you.
@gollywog6695
@gollywog6695 3 жыл бұрын
@Max Powers What a load of Bollocks! "Wealthy pay taxes that support "all" government programs that feed the poor?" Where are you getting this information from? The poor pay taxes too and that makes them even worse off. Wealthy should be paying higher taxes. I don't see any rich wealthy people putting their hand in their pockets to help build more homeless centers or help with food kitchens and food banks. They would rather walk on the other side of the road than on the same side as someone sleeping in the street. They cuss at the homeless cause they smell. They have no time of day for the homeless. We the "poor" and "working class" are contributing far more than anyone else. We do help each other where and when we can. I work 24/7, but still find time to help out at a homeless food kitchen or food bank. I give each and every homeless person I serve food to a hug before I serve them. Would never see any of the wealthy do that.
@viviangulotta2640
@viviangulotta2640 3 жыл бұрын
rs
@rhysjonsmusic
@rhysjonsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@Max Powers you mean like how the wealthy classes of the victorian age created jobs for the poor? The fact that you can talk like that with zero sense of irony in those words is shocking
@karenknicely1788
@karenknicely1788 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how Brian felt, seeing how his great grandfather was labeled? And not just his family, but everyone? When you think about it, it humbles a person. With Society being the way it is now days, it's amazing that people survived. My heart goes out to all.
@robfrancis8830
@robfrancis8830 3 жыл бұрын
I heard older family members ref the poorhouse, now i know what it means. This video changed my perspective
@maryseflore7028
@maryseflore7028 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I find that the current situation in the US, where benefits and help to the poor are seen as a handout, is eerily close to that of Victorian England.
@gmcmisty
@gmcmisty 2 жыл бұрын
I know more hard working poor people who work 50 hours a week that still cannot afford food. I use to have that mindset that one was lazy but then I went into the world and I can say my views change quickly. I have never looked down on anyone who asks for help because it should be shameful for any developed country to have people homeless and starving. I have been there working 60 even up to 80 hours a week to just be broke. I am ashamed that where I live thinks making sure children having food is a shameful thing or stable housing. I even asked someone "so because you think the parents are lazy you feel it's okay to punish children because being poor and having a baby is criminal to you?" He simply stated the kid will see this a a chance to grow and be stronger in the end because it will drive him to do better. The ignorance of people is heartbreaking.
@malisashutt6231
@malisashutt6231 3 жыл бұрын
Got to love how rosey and clean the workhouse museums look now. They should have at least kept one or more rooms in their original condition so visitors could see the true horrors they lived in and not just in a few pictures, true rooms not just cleaned up reproductions. Hard to look at pictures and get a true feel for the horrors that they lived through, now try walking through an original room, it would make it more tangible and real.
@colleen9311
@colleen9311 Жыл бұрын
I know right?!
@greyeaglem
@greyeaglem 3 жыл бұрын
This looks good. Love these historical documentaries.
@DesignALifeYouLove
@DesignALifeYouLove 3 жыл бұрын
I know! Me, too. They are super interesting.
@TheDanAge
@TheDanAge 3 жыл бұрын
watching these rich people worrying about their dead relatives is great.... I'd love of they could put 10% of that into caring about people alive today .
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer 3 жыл бұрын
oof
@BluetheRaccoon
@BluetheRaccoon 3 жыл бұрын
This!!!
@inahandbasket288
@inahandbasket288 3 жыл бұрын
How do YOU know what they may be doing privately?
@TheDanAge
@TheDanAge 3 жыл бұрын
@@inahandbasket288 feckoff
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDanAge They may be right.
@teresawoods7476
@teresawoods7476 3 жыл бұрын
All those people with their children were never treated with respect. God bless all of them
@Justindedwards215
@Justindedwards215 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck I love HISTORY.... now if we could only find more people who love history so maybe we can stop repeating the worst parts of history and humanity over and over and over again!! So far we haven’t learned from our history so we steady repeat it.
@valkyrieanduril1345
@valkyrieanduril1345 3 жыл бұрын
If only :/
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Remember in America they have reduced educating about history and civics (how govt works) we are all paying for it.
@Justindedwards215
@Justindedwards215 3 жыл бұрын
@@thereissomecoolstuff that's the truth then teach revisionist history at that!
@lanakennedy6773
@lanakennedy6773 3 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes 'history repeats itself.' Very sad that we don't seem to learn from it!
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@Justindedwards215 it's like it was planned.
@blaisetelfer8499
@blaisetelfer8499 3 жыл бұрын
The scariest part is, for most of the residents all their other options were even worse.
@LadyDixon92
@LadyDixon92 3 жыл бұрын
Please, upload more Victorian era content 🙏 I absolutely adore these videos !!
@ladyjane9980
@ladyjane9980 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie Chaplin, minus the moustache, was drop dead gorgeous.
@lisad1532
@lisad1532 3 жыл бұрын
His mother was beautiful from the picture they showed here
@lilly2b1
@lilly2b1 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t a nice man though. I see from this it may be a reason but not an excuse.
@kylebear8101
@kylebear8101 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilly2b1 he wasn’t? D:
@lilly2b1
@lilly2b1 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylebear8101 nope google lita grey ,his wife that he met when she was 12 . He is often described as a cruel tyrant that slept with underaged girls. He was not a nice man.
@fred6319
@fred6319 3 жыл бұрын
the system might look better today but nothing much has changed
@LauraWilsonExists
@LauraWilsonExists 3 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking. Just awful. It makes me so thankful for the things we have now, and more aware of those who still struggle.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no comparison between then and now for 'those that struggle'.
@kylebear8101
@kylebear8101 3 жыл бұрын
@@resnonverba137 I wouldn’t say so. There are still people on the streets...and sometimes an average person will just abuse them. I’m glad my mom is letting me live with her until I get on my two feet. ESPECIALLY in this economy. You can’t really judge someone’s turmoil by saying “there are people who are worse off”. It’s still *their* turmoil. Their trauma. People still need help.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylebear8101 You have now followed me around three different threads in succession. As you seem to know where my comments are, I suggest you read all of them before coming back again so that I don't have to start repeating myself. Thanks.
@LauraWilsonExists
@LauraWilsonExists 3 жыл бұрын
@@resnonverba137 uh… in some ways there isn’t much difference, depending on where you are (geographically) in the world.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
@@LauraWilsonExists This upload and the comments pertain to the UK.
@gorymarty56
@gorymarty56 2 жыл бұрын
One wonders about if working in the unsafe factories made them so sick they couldn't work , so they ended up in these houses.
@floof_hair3857
@floof_hair3857 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine colonising up to 1/4 of the world’s landmass and still not providing for your own people
@syubiased6854
@syubiased6854 2 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY OMD GROSS HONESTLY
@teresaniumata2742
@teresaniumata2742 3 жыл бұрын
Im from the Island of Samoa watching this is heart breaking. How can other human beings do it to others,so sad.
@leonieromanes7265
@leonieromanes7265 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's not the Island way.
@bttrflysprit6507
@bttrflysprit6507 3 жыл бұрын
what surprizes me is that these people think they treatment of the poor is so terrible and yet we are in the year 2021 and sure there aren't workhouses anymore but the poor are still thought of as terrible looked down on and expected to bring themselves up or give up all there rights.
@JulieWallis1963
@JulieWallis1963 2 жыл бұрын
*their* rights. Imagine, 11 years of free education and you’re still illiterate.
@bttrflysprit6507
@bttrflysprit6507 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlebird3739 yeah but prisons are for those that did wrong, the poor have done nothing wrong.
@conductor637
@conductor637 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people who found their families were subject to such horrible things feel any different about how poor people are treated now.
@andrewesther4705
@andrewesther4705 3 жыл бұрын
Doubtful.
@vaderladyl
@vaderladyl 3 жыл бұрын
We don't know that.
@youcrazycat1
@youcrazycat1 3 жыл бұрын
What about you? Are you aware of poverty?
@rabbit0877
@rabbit0877 3 жыл бұрын
I’m such a history nerd. I’m gonna love this!!!
@lyricmelodysheenan
@lyricmelodysheenan 3 жыл бұрын
That one woman - “if my children had anything given it went in the bin!” Would have been nice if you’d learnt from your early experience of poverty and donated those clothes to the needy maybe instead of gloating over how your kids have everything new? Many people aren’t as fortunate.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ScarlettKitsune
@ScarlettKitsune 3 жыл бұрын
Shame is a powerful motivator for the choices people make. You can't escape psychological anguish like that, and to say something so judgemental comes from a position of privilege. My mum felt deep shame whenever we had to use anything 2nd hand because of how she grew up. She always wanted to be seen as no lesser than anyone else around her, was so fearful of people seeing her children as "less than". She only allowed 2nd hand if there was literally no other choice. She often went without herself to make sure we had what we needed. It's not a simple matter of logic.
@winterinbloom
@winterinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScarlettKitsune Loving your children enough to set aside your own damn pride to always do what is best for them has nothing to do with privilege.
@ScarlettKitsune
@ScarlettKitsune 3 жыл бұрын
@@winterinbloom I didn't say it was logical, I said it comes from a place of deep psychological trauma. If you can't understand it, you have to recognise that comes from a place of privilege that you have never had to deal with that deep feeling of shame, of feeling like you are being judged by your community.
@winterinbloom
@winterinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScarlettKitsune I didn't say it had anything to do with logic. I just said it didn't have anything to do with privilege, because it doesn't. And claiming privilege in this case to pretend mistakes weren't made by a parent who refused to do the right thing by their child is shitty. While I may not personally have experience with this issue from the point of view of a parent, I have experience from the point of view of a child with a mother with deep psychological issues who had to deal with a judging community. My mother did not let her issues get in the way of doing what was best for me. If she had to overcome a mountain of fear in order to choke down huge, steaming piles of shame and judgment to make sure I was properly taken care of, she did it because that is what good mothers do. On the other hand, if my mother's fear of shame and judgment only affected herself, she would use her pride as a shield and avoid judgment and shame at all costs. Even if she suffered ten times worse as a result.
@delores6458
@delores6458 3 жыл бұрын
"it's a bit of a shock" yes Barbra, we know your posh 🙄
@Zerinity42
@Zerinity42 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any of the ppl in the video, Especially that one man who is very upset about his g-g-gpa (understandably so!!), realize how bad it is still for some who is in poverty today. In The United States and in the UK too. We all need to be this angry about, not just what has come before us, but the injustice that is still going on now. It’s heartbreaking that so little has changed. Blessings to everyone.
@kylebear8101
@kylebear8101 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I highly doubt it...
@leonieromanes7265
@leonieromanes7265 2 жыл бұрын
Yes now people are just thrown in the street to fend for themselves.
@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat
@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat 2 жыл бұрын
...Well poverty is still bad today. But at least there IS help in both the USA and the UK. You can get the dole, free healthcare (in the UK), there is the Salvation Army and other charities handing out food, lodgings, emotional support. You cannot compare the poverty of today against the poverty of this video
@jobellecollie7139
@jobellecollie7139 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the last of the baby boomer generation. It is sad, but true, that my Grandparents came out of these poorhouses. My children have no concept of what poverty looks like. I've worked hard to keep them middle class. I lived well below my means to send them both to medical school. They are now seeing (in their hospital work) what poverty looks like. They are now shocked and have a tad more compassion for my fear of poverty. I read my Grandfather's diary and he worried if he made the correct choice to buy a modest home in Boston. The payment was $16/month. Until that mortgage was paid off, my Grandparents lived JUST to pay $16/month. Until it was paid for in the early 1960's, there was no extras.
@HJHecking
@HJHecking 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are so fascinating, yet they are all out of order. One minute you are learning about the tragedy of a work out, the next you are learning how they renovated an Edwardian home. How can one find the video spoken of in this one. Where do I find "in the next video..." ??
@veronicafaber143
@veronicafaber143 3 жыл бұрын
The titles of the series are in the video titles after the clickbait part. This is "Secrets From the Workhouse" from 2013. This channel releases episodes about 1 week apart as if they were on television, but they do have several series going on at a time. This series only has 2 episodes so I expect the next one to be out next Wednesday.
@shesaknitter
@shesaknitter 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent episode. I have shared it with a World History teacher friend of mine. A must-see exploration of the inhumanity of that era and of those workhouses. Just heartbreaking. My father lived a great life and passed recently at the age of 99. To think of a 91 year old man, not much younger than my dad, having to turn himself into the workhouse at the end so as not to be a burden to his family, and even having saved money for his own funeral for the same reason, is especially heartbreaking to me.
@ImNotaRussianBot
@ImNotaRussianBot 3 жыл бұрын
The system crushed you into poverty then criminalized you for it.
@rubysultra
@rubysultra 3 жыл бұрын
This is still happening. The failure is in how little we value human life. The failure is in believing poverty is a choice. The failure is in blaming the poor for socioeconomic conditions that beyond their control. The failure is us. We see the connection between poverty and mental illness....and do not care. We do not help people or provide opportunity to heal and evolve from crippling poverty. The reason is....the very rich....want to stay very rich....and make rules so they do stay very rich...and deflect blame onto the poor....and say that the poor are too expensive and holding us back...and we spend too much on social services. I would rather we spend too much on social services than give it to a rich person to buy a 3rd yacht with. Seriously. Must make the vulnerable the highest priority in society...because that is literally the end goal....a nice place where we can all have nice things. Perhaps helping those who need help is the lesson.....instead of doing everything you can to shame and destroy their soul.
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said! As someone who has had everything stolen (repeatedly) and therefore ended up in poverty - barely a day goes by where I don't suffer abuse from people who treat me with contempt and total lack of respect, think nothing of abusing me, and accuse me of being too stupid and too lazy to make something of my life! I used to constantly explain my story to show that I am neither from a rundown background nor suffer from stupidity or laziness, but I never got believed. Now I feel compelled to pretend to indeed be stupid, lazy and dirty - to keep people happy and to prevent stupid questions and accusations. I cannot put in words how painful a way of life this is - constantly getting treated as if I were retarded and having to pretend to be just that because the truth wouldn't get believed anyway. With this, every day my identity gets stolen and I am forced to live a lie! And this is 21st century Britain!
@bpj1805
@bpj1805 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to give your money to a rich person then don't - don't buy what they sell. They're not holding a gun to your head and making you give them their money. And who made you the arbiter of how to spend other people's money anyway? Poverty may not always be a choice, but often it is. When poor people smoke, drink, and watch TV, that's a choice they're making: they value those things more than being slightly less poor.
@happyjourneywithlynn2534
@happyjourneywithlynn2534 3 жыл бұрын
@@bpj1805 you think poverty is a choice? You try to walk in a poor person’s shoes before judging them. When born into a family that lives at or below the poverty level, they are fighting from day one in their life. And the older they get, the rules of state/government keeps them locked in poverty. If they try to rise out of poverty, they’re beaten down by the same help sought. As for them getting a job, well only menial jobs offered are fast food, janitorial, not much skill or pay. And today the pandemic has hit so many people, even those who thought they were far above the poverty line. So think about it, being poor isn’t a choice. I know it, for I was born into a poor family forced to accept help a long time ago. Ever since then, poverty has been a constant fear.
@malisashutt6231
@malisashutt6231 3 жыл бұрын
@@bpj1805 For the majority of people it isn't a choice! When companies continue not paying a living wage to many of their workers, how are they to step out of that poverty? Higher education is but a dream with mostly the elite able to continue on to the higher educations needed to secure a job or career that pay more than the absolute minimum allowed or they can get away with. Yes, you do have some that do game the system or don't care that they are on the dole and prefer it that way. But there are a great many more that want to work, and work for more than poverty wages!
@JuniperJennifer666
@JuniperJennifer666 3 жыл бұрын
U need to go to russia with your propaganda
@juliaross5268
@juliaross5268 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. Cox, I just wanted to write and express my sympathy for how your family suffered in the economic system of our culture just a century ago. I had often wondered why my family came to be in America so long ago; and why “the poor house” was such an awful idea to us. You put it best when you used the phrases ‘appalling’ and ‘assault’; I do not mind that your quoting from the records before you moved me to tears. Most sincerely yours, Julia Ross Newport News, VA
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 3 жыл бұрын
it only makes it more tragic that even with modern economics we still have these same arguments made today about welfare
@GeorgeMonet
@GeorgeMonet 2 жыл бұрын
It's the difference between someone who fears they might fall down compared to someone who believes they never will. The former sees the need for protections for those at the bottom while the latter wants to kill off all those they view as leeches.
@luvtocook6881
@luvtocook6881 2 жыл бұрын
My Gr Grandfather lived there… I just couldn’t imagine what these poor people went through. Scary.
@littbitterst2328
@littbitterst2328 3 жыл бұрын
Please know that many of us in the U.S. are still treated this way and stuck in our “system” to this day....”workhouses” are now called group homes, or adult foster care and are akin to human trafficking. We are merchandise and pure profit to these places. So are our children. Thank you for shining a light on these issues.
@marita6862
@marita6862 3 жыл бұрын
The welfare system and the lack of education because our schools have allowed the federal governor to infiltrate every aspect of our lives. While parents are absent in the homes trying to make ends meet they indoctrinated the last 2 generations
@AC-el7lx
@AC-el7lx 3 жыл бұрын
The US has welfare, free housing, disability payments, medical, food allowances, etc. To compare the US system with an actual workhouse of the 19th century diminishes the appalling conditions these people went through.
@littbitterst2328
@littbitterst2328 3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-el7lx ...I DO agree that, in comparison, it is better today. BUT...it is just soo much worse than people are aware. And no one seems to want to know. It’s not quite so much the conditions that are appalling now, but the exploitation.
@littbitterst2328
@littbitterst2328 3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-el7lx I was not, in any way, wanting to diminish what these people have been through. Just wanting to raise awareness that it's STILL VERY bad in the U.S. and most people are completely unaware of this. Your reply demonstrates my meaning. All any of us know is what we are told by our government or those that work for it and profit from these issues. Please know, i mean no offense to anyone....I just know first hand what it's like to be trapped in this system that claims to WANT to help.
@lisajackson1964
@lisajackson1964 2 жыл бұрын
It’s nothing like in those days. Not even close.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 3 жыл бұрын
Workhouse punishment "The beatings will continue until morale improves"
@aria8256
@aria8256 3 жыл бұрын
Secrets of the workhouse actually explains the reason behind the huge boom in science and modern medicine used today. Many great scientific studies were made possible because they exploited human rights of poor people. I don't think I'll ever truly understand the horror those without a voice felt at that time... they must've felt helpless beyond measure! 😭😭🤧 But did the people who were in charge of the dissections make sure whether the bodies in front of them were in an unconscious state or actually dead? 🤔🤨
@ripyourheartout
@ripyourheartout 3 жыл бұрын
This breaks my heart and brought me to tears... Truly. These poor people, may they rest in peace.
@janetceniza8091
@janetceniza8091 3 жыл бұрын
Most of your stories are very good, THIS ONE was a sad but wonderful look at English History.
@ENGLISHROOM022
@ENGLISHROOM022 3 жыл бұрын
Grateful to you for producing this series.
@soniatriana9091
@soniatriana9091 3 жыл бұрын
At first we’re shocked & disgusted that the Victorians could be so ruthless & cruel, but really, but why are we shocked? Human nature can & does keep repeating these cruel & inhuman forms of punishment against other fellow human beings. Just look around the world, countries have continued & continue to fight each other, including genocide wars. The English ironically were extremely heartless & cruel, & yet they then expected the young men from the workhouses to go off & fight in WWI & WWII against Hitler, another extremely cruel & inhuman man & his followers/soldiers.
@roxy4158
@roxy4158 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing has changed!!!!! Have you visited a nursing home January 2022??? APPALLING!!!! so what is the point of reading history? We must change so history is not repeated!!! God help us
@robnewman6101
@robnewman6101 3 жыл бұрын
So Grim to live. So much suffering still in Queen Victoria's period.
@afiomai69
@afiomai69 3 жыл бұрын
How little has changed. Poverty is a crime and to be poor is to be a criminal.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
Calm down Brian. You're scaring the poor lady who's trying to educate you.
@CreatorCade
@CreatorCade 3 жыл бұрын
Well I’d say his outrage is justified all things considered.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
@@CreatorCade Maybe so, but a little self-control would have been appropriate.
@katinamartin7934
@katinamartin7934 3 жыл бұрын
yep i was thinking the same thing she was looking scared
@ldavid2528
@ldavid2528 3 жыл бұрын
God can you imagine if we all allowed ourselves to behave like Brian- not very nice for those around him! Be thoughtful.
@loge10
@loge10 3 жыл бұрын
@@ldavid2528 Be "thoughtful"???? That's basically asking a person who has had a horrific truth revealed to him to "control yourself". If such outrage such as Brian's were more prevalent, perhaps the atrocities that provoke it wouldn't have as much freedom to exist in the first place. After all, such things don't happen now...sigh...
@LivingEpicness1
@LivingEpicness1 3 жыл бұрын
'Please go fight in the war and face death and the possibility of losing everything for us. In return we will send you to living in the streets without medical care. Thanks a bunch.' Nice people.
@ImNotaRussianBot
@ImNotaRussianBot 3 жыл бұрын
How many homeless vets do we have in the U.S. now?
@sheelahales4738
@sheelahales4738 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, quite true I can see how that made Brian so angry.
@kylebear8101
@kylebear8101 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImNotaRussianBot especially in Florida or California where it’s hot as hell. Or further north...where it’s cold as a witch’s tit
@msmltvcktl
@msmltvcktl 2 жыл бұрын
The shelter system in the US is little better; the infestations (many shelters have bedbugs), the treatment (flipping the lights on at 6a to wake everyone, no staying at the shelter during the days in winter), the dehumanization (belongings stolen by staff, being belittled for nothing). It's still considered a crime to be in poverty in the US; the homeless are treated with the same level of disdain today as they were in Victorian London.
@jenniealkawari2731
@jenniealkawari2731 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have met and spoken to such forgotten poor souls in Detroit. Disgraceful lack of compassion
@KarolinaGradziel
@KarolinaGradziel 3 жыл бұрын
Currently the benefit system does exactly the same. People cannot or can’t see the way of moving from it and stuck in without a chance. I don’t think that Victorian times we left far away, it’s all happening but in more sophisticated ways..
@gracefraser4173
@gracefraser4173 3 жыл бұрын
Love these uploads!!
@beckyjohnson7675
@beckyjohnson7675 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently reading a book called the orphans journey and some of the stuff I’ve read so far about the girl Pearl who has been sent to a workhouse because her mother is having another baby and said (to explain overcrowding as the reason Pearl and her sister are there) and the stuff I’ve read is horrific Another fact I’ve read is children were only allowed to have lessons up to 12 years old, then the lessons were taken away and they were put into full-time jobs almost being treated like adults.
@christinebutler7630
@christinebutler7630 2 жыл бұрын
Child labor laws and compulsory education are actually fairly recent. Here in the Carolinas most labor and education law was not enforced until the 1970s. Many of my neighbors here were put into the textile mills at 12 or 13, married at 14 or 15.
@joolzg1936
@joolzg1936 2 жыл бұрын
Many nations still put their children to work at age 12 or even younger...very sad.
@normanshadow1
@normanshadow1 3 жыл бұрын
I can appreciate the anger expressed at 40:35
@Harikusa
@Harikusa 3 жыл бұрын
UK changed overtime but there's not whole lot of standards when it comes to quality of life, some people forced to live in same room with bunch of others and pay £500 for that. Outside of London not as bad, but not whole lot better. This "single room" term exists only in UK and that's all you have, rest is shared, no privacy.
@kaycollarfeild
@kaycollarfeild 3 жыл бұрын
Dad's gf needed council housing for her disabled son. Every house had bugs and mould.. but if you complain,they just don't give you the house. Really hope it's better in other places 🙏🙏🙏
@jewelchilaka4089
@jewelchilaka4089 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the UK is totally an amazing beautiful place to live currently by far better than the US
@sharonswift8668
@sharonswift8668 2 жыл бұрын
jewel chilaka. Your opinion. How often does the sun shines there??
@ginapruett5401
@ginapruett5401 3 жыл бұрын
Will be waiting for the other half of these stories. It’s sad to now have actual pic to what I’ve read and hear in other documentaries. But glade some were able survive these nightmares.
@priscillasaravia
@priscillasaravia 2 жыл бұрын
Chaplain’s granddaughter is expressionless. I guess we all take things differently, I’m devastated just watching this!
@eileenpritchard9154
@eileenpritchard9154 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, when you think of the Elite then living in luxury, ROYALTY makes me so angry they have always been paid off the backs of us taxpayers, none of them have lived through poverty, and still PEOPLE now down to them NOT ME I have no time for them.
@AshaMoothedath
@AshaMoothedath 2 жыл бұрын
All this happened while Britain was the richest empire in the world at the time... One wonders where all the riches they stole from their colonies went.... (Sarcasm intended)
@carolina8638
@carolina8638 3 жыл бұрын
this is just rich people being outraged their own relatives used to live in poverty in the exact same way people nowadays do.
@vaderladyl
@vaderladyl 3 жыл бұрын
They have the right to do so.
@monicafiore20
@monicafiore20 3 жыл бұрын
@@vaderladyl they may have the right....but that doesn't make it ethical.
@vaderladyl
@vaderladyl 3 жыл бұрын
@@monicafiore20 Well duh!
@Dave_Lakin
@Dave_Lakin 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.... If the producers of this show wanted to tell the story of normal working class people from the past, they probably should have used normal working class people from today.... not overly dramatic rich actors
@Kawasakifreak1
@Kawasakifreak1 2 жыл бұрын
...'exact same way people nowadays do' - RUBBISH.
@Karime70
@Karime70 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast they kept good records in these institutions.
@remingtonbennett
@remingtonbennett 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to tell you that Im glad i have found this channel❤️
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 2 жыл бұрын
the voice is Carson from Downtown Abbey! you go, Carson!
@tracyjacksonjackson4221
@tracyjacksonjackson4221 3 жыл бұрын
This puts me in the mind of Oliver Twist.
@annoyingbstard9407
@annoyingbstard9407 3 жыл бұрын
The most common reason to enter the workhouse was they were the safest place for a woman to give birth. Especially an unmarried woman.
@napalmholocaust9093
@napalmholocaust9093 3 жыл бұрын
While the king eats goose livers and peacocks the common folk starve.
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
Which king would that be? Elvis?
@JoannaLamont333
@JoannaLamont333 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not any different now! I don’t see any of the Royal Family queuing at the food banks
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoannaLamont333 Your reply is so silly that it's difficult to know where to start with a reply.
@JoannaLamont333
@JoannaLamont333 3 жыл бұрын
@@resnonverba137 In what way?
@JoannaLamont333
@JoannaLamont333 3 жыл бұрын
@@resnonverba137 I am guessing you don’t know hardship? Arcana Octonus stated ……’While the King eats goose livers & peacocks the common folk starve’ Goose livers & peacocks were incredibly expensive & a luxury which only the Kings could afford. Our equivalent now is much the same. The Queen has luxury foods which are also expensive & …….’the common folk starve’ There’s people now who are also starving & cannot afford food, so there’s no change then is there, hence the reference to food banks! Do you understand now!
@MsHarpsychord
@MsHarpsychord 2 жыл бұрын
I love the older gentleman speaker, he is so strong voiced and passionate about this. Proper aggressive and pissed off by the inhumanity of it.
@lpanayi6954
@lpanayi6954 2 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that the lady talking to B T-B felt the need to bin any hand-me -downs she was given for her kids. I get her reasoning, but it's unlikely her kids felt the same. Getting big sacks of outgrown clothing from my cousins was awesome for me as a kid- we'd have a great time trying things on and dressing up. Much better for the environment too. People who've suffered more extreme periods of hardship always seem to rebound too far in the other direction, given the chance; into over- extravagance and wastefulness. Glad my family's hardships instilled more of a make-do-and-mend mentality in us, really.
@celticlass8573
@celticlass8573 3 жыл бұрын
ITV did an amazing job on this series. :)
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