The fact that Shannon and rose have had issues with a lot of people they have worked with also speaks volumes.. I doubt it's all Alyssa's fault

@@davlin7685 Alyssa stan found

@@pretendamnesia I mean look at them now, I adore Rose but she continues. Same can be said about Shannon

@@moonmojo7649 So what? They have a right to feel however they want as women. The truth is coming out about Alyssa. Why shame the women who stood up against a mean girl? Or are you one of those also?

Rose never mentioned any issues and for years said how great the show was. It wasn't until after her car accident and Alyssa supporting Me Too where Rose started making claims against Alyssa.

Me too

Me too

but then you have raw footage of Rose having a genuine blast with Alyssa and holly during hte fourth season. She didn't start making those claims after the show had ended. She's a liar and made those claims because of the whole me 2 bs.

Rose shaved her head and looks like a man - I don’t believe unstable women.

@@sandiego2380She’s an actor and she LITERALLY said she conformed because she was petrified of being considered difficult. They told her don’t be difficult like Shannen. She was controlled by a narrative that Alyssa created for her own gain.

Yes because she made her uncomfortable

@@marioiconno one else seemed to have a problem with Shannen on the charmed set. Even rose, her replacement, had an issue with Alyssa. Seems the common denominator is Alyssa.

Shannen was dating Julian McMahon around this time... Julian was also at this time playing Cole, who was in the show dating Phoebe... Alyssa was complaining about a hostile work environment... I may be putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 but I can almost bet on it that hostilities arose because of it.

​@@harleypaynefultsunamiwilli463I didn't know Shannen was dating Julien. But I can totally imagine Milano would get jealous. Shannen was taking the spotlight and dating a total stud... And have you seen Milano's husband? 😅

@@brontiq Alyssa was dating Brian Kraus around that time too...

Shannen was always a problem on shows so how can it be Alyssa's fault alone? 😅

Alyssa Milano destroyed us all?? I was unaware. I bet if she knew how she destroyed you, she would apologize 🙄🙄🙄

Same. I was watching for Shannon. I love her work; she is a talented actress who was a natural in all her roles.

I knew she wouldn't just leave a successful show like dat where she demanded that She wouldn't do the show without Holly and then when she was Fired Holly was angry and upset told them the same thing but they threatened to sue her if she left as well

alyssa took accountability in an interview and said her and shannon were cordial. why is this being brought up years later?

Listen to the podcast ❤ she was threatened if she leave the show(she wanted to go out with Shannen) she would be sued 😢

@@kateausten6450 just watched it..wow..still thankful for Holly though..but that Alyssa was just the biggest mistake

Holly was always the heart since the beginning. She brought the sisters together

Holly became the heart, Rose became the passion and Milano ended up as slutty/trashy queen (in my humble opinion). After she god rid of Shannen she was wearing more and more revealing clothes with every season. Remember that Cinderella episode catastrophe? That was the trashiest most horrible dress in history of the entire show 😂

No, she didn't. She was a horrible actress.

I remember it being more pinned on “Shannon being difficult to work with” since she had also left 90210. I’m glad the cast is actually able to talk about it now. It has been kept so hush hush for so long.

@@therealameliabedelia7821 It was both. It was pinned that Alyssa complained that Shannon was difficult to work with and they didn't get along. It was always hinted and said that Alyssa was the cause.

Same

Not true at all. Shannen was blamed for it and she was pegged as "difficult" which is a killer term for a woman actress. People also blamed her for leaving and creating the ultimatum but whole time it was Alyssas fault for it all.

You should of kept watching because the show got better but I understand why you upset that she left but rose was Also Amazing actor as well

Oh please. Shannen Doherty has always been toxic. I don’t buy her victim pose now . Check on here in her own words “ shannen talks about charmed” a video on KZfaq where she says she found the work tedious and was telling producers she needed to go and that she had only signed up for 3 seasons. Now she blames Alyssa ( i am sure she was probably reacting to doherty attitude) . Again hear it from Shannen own mouth 8 years ago.

​@@qtaromar1970Have you ever thought that Shannen might say those things you said she'd said just to avoid even worse situation/publication? Or to protect the producer whoever or even Alyssa from bad news? I loved Charmed so much but when Shannen's out, I was upset because I thought those '3 sisters' had great chemistry. Tried to watch after that but hm..no, it's just a 'no', stopped watching it. Whatever that was, hopefully Shannen's condition is getting better n better. ❤🇮🇩

@@31naand yet now she is rehashing something that happened 20 years ago and if you listen to her she can’t even forgive, so much for being terminally ill. Alyssa already apologized and even admitted the role she played in it. What else can she do? Now she is staying quiet which is the adult thing to do. It seems the other two cannot let it go. Holly even bullied the new cast of charmed when it was rebooted. They need to move on. Is done, over with. Shannen own history of problem behavior speaks for itself. I watched charmed too and Prue was the best character on there but she got herself fired from 90210 for the same thing, fighting with cast members. They are 50 now, move on.

Not to mention I'm sure this affected Shannon's career. Who would hire her after that?

Sadly, this will never change the fact they took Prue away from us. She never made an appearance again, even a guest star.

People say this when it's not true, it's just a subjective opinion. If that was the case, both shows would not have had several seasons after with increased viewership. Clearly people continued to really enjoy the shows. I get that Shannen's probably you're fave, but keep it real.

@@christianaayodelelost magic not ratings. 🙄 greys anatomy is on its 80th season now; but that doesn’t mean it’s still of good quality 🙄

I agree with you. I lost interest in both shows after she left. The shows lost their spark and became generic.

I agree with you. I lost interest in both shows after she left. The shows lost their spark and became generic.

Shannon had been on three popular shows, and each one fired her for being beyond difficult. I can see that there may have been a power struggle since all three women are very strong in their personality

Primrose Empath. She was gut wrenching in that. Perfect acting.

That was her magic. After she left it was gone. I think Alyssa wanted to be in the centre

Shannen and holly are EXTRAORDINARY actors.

She did know because she mentioned years ago that she asked to put more extra blood close to her head to make it more believable

Agreed

@@hafidbense4934 if you listen to the podcast she said she lied for 20 years for the fans so that it wouldn’t be any bad light on the show outside of her firing

Yeah, I think she knew, her character was actually supposed to die anyway, her character dies in the comics and her spirit goes into the body of a comatose witch named Patience, i think the feud with Alyssa either brought on her death faster or she forced them to kill her character off if they weren’t planning on following the comics entirely.

@@toxicfataldestiny5408 the charmed comics came out after the show of course prue is deceased in them she was never suppose to be killed off if Alyssa left it alone and just did her job prue would’ve been alive in the show and the comics the first comic came out in 2010

i actually preferred the cast with rose, i thought she filled out the dynamic really well. but that might just be because i first started watching during season 4. When i went back to watch the first 3 seasons i wasnt much of a fan of prues brooding personality. but i seem to be in the minority here 😅

I didn’t watch the show religiously, but I saw the episode with Prue’s death. It was gut-wrenching.

@@jj-vu5ovDifferent strokes. I stopped watching after season 4. As much as I love Rose McGowan, it wasn’t the same show for me.

I do think that considering the circumstances that led to the decline of Charmed in the aftermath of the coup d'état against Shannen and given the fact that a significant portion of public opinion has been turning against Alyssa in the more recent years, it would be suffice to say that Shannen was the true victor in all of this and completely insuring that she be vindicated -better late than never as they say.

​@@jj-vu5ovI agree. I loved Shannon, but Rose fit in easily with the cast. Nothing went downhill in my opinion.

Definitely ! The stories on charmed with Burge were breathtaking for the true magical genre scene. Kern‘s charmed went downhill and then became a parody of itself and then became stupid

You know what you are right I don't think the whole blame should go to her but to the horrible showrunners had decided to turn the show into. I know while Constance M burge was there the show was awesome

@jesseds892 Ms. Burge knew precisely what she was aiming for with her creation and Shannen -bless her heart, voiced dearly in her favor.

Yep & she was eventually pushed out even though she was the creator.

Because Alyssa continued to support Weinstein's wife and children after everything came out about him...

that's rich coming from Rose calling someone fake and not trustworthy. There is plenty of raw footage of her and Holly and Alyssa having a genuine fun time on Charmed. Rose started making those allegations years when the show had ended. She is the one people shouldn't trust, as she is an extremist man hating feminist hypocrite.

My first TV heartbreak, I was younger then 14 tho. I share your pain

Pñ

Omg indeed.

Shut up it wasn't all her it was all the producers they were just jealous of Alyssa because she was the sexiest and all the Fans knew it

🤡

@@haydenduran5979 What does "sexiness" have to do with anything? She was the least interesting and had the worst acting skills on the show.

Shannen wanted to keep the series loyal to the concept that Constance M. Burge had constructed. However, the moment that Brad Kern began to usurp the series from Ms. Burge -hence, resulting in the latter's departure, coupled with Alyssa looking to make her own power grab within the casting ranks and also being in Mr. Kern's favor, Shannen unfortunately found herself caught up in a vicious circle and inevitably becoming the ultimate sacrificial lamb of the series.

except season 4 is the darkest season, and its without Prue

@@mt24986 Chris Evans right now and first day back next week we do it tomorrow morning wow first thing tomorrow night and did his new one day did you find out now Friday night and I will be back in my future tv show

It went from a good dramatic show about magic to, how many skimpy costumes can we get Phobe in comedy show

​@@skurinskithank you. But they won't agree with you. Classic, don't let facts get in the way of a false narrative 😂

We're talking about something from over 20 years ago that happened between a bunch of women in their twenties in a very competitive industry. I really don't think it's anything but she probably hasn't learned from. She's so much as said it by saying that she wishes she would have been more secure back then with herself

@@saramarshall2957 Alyssa owned up to her mistakes and she apologized saying she was insecure you can see it on youtube actually so i doubt she will loose any fans since they already knew that even in her book she mentioned it

True Charmed loyal fans understand our frustration about this is you was just a viewer watching just to watch then I understand you lack of concern but what moves you to leave a comment If you don’t care as much ?

Someone else can’t stand Alyssa and thinks she’s a very manipulative person but I can’t remember who it was! 😖 it might’ve been Rose McGowan. Not sure. Something about her being a hypocrite and her husband’s involvement with whatever it all was. Something political, I think? Sorry I can’t recall! 😢

​@@hafidbense4934 yeah but if your apologizing why is it called sorry not sorry if that was the case

It never felt awkward. The story of the new sister perfectly fit in with the series thanks to the premise from the early seasons.

@@user-cy6wm4ts8j yes it did. Randomly killing off the best character and then “poof” another sister just randomly appears😂

@@poshbarbieboi The sisters weren’t immortal and they risked their lives every single day. So they knew that this was coming cause of their mom who was gone way too soon as well. Paige didn’t appear out of nowhere. Paige’s premise was set out in Season 2 already when the sisters met their mother’s whitelighter Sam and found out that they had had an affair. And as we find out in Season 4 Paige was a result of that affair, but they couldn’t keep her cause having a love affair between a witch and a whitelighter was forbidden. That’s why Patty and Sam took her to a local church as soon as she was born. Paige’s appearance is perfectly explained and accompanied by the fact that the Source wasn’t satisfied with Prue being gone and the Power of Three being disrupted, he was determined to eliminate all of them, including Paige and Paige was the only hope to reconstitute the Charmed Ones thus saving them. That’s why she had to resurface. With that being said, Paige’s introduction added a new dynamic, a new impulse to the show. Rose McGowan did a phenomenal job playing Paige.

Same here. I was very disappointed when Shannon had left the series.

There was no indication that a baby was ever conceived during that affair in said season/episode. Affairs don't necessarily equate to a pregnancy. Prue's death was so random and sudden that this miraculous new sister storyline felt a bit out of place and it wasn't clear at the end of season 3 that Prue had died. I'd guess that they were hoping to solve whatever issues but could'nt so we got the shock of a first s4 ep. I mean, they flew through those walls how many times? They cheated death how many times? They went to the past,.to the future, reversed or accelerated time and all that but now all of sudden they don't have the power? It made no sense but I for one grew to love Paige just as much. I just feel that her introduction was premature/rushed.

Same! No shade to Rose Mcgowan, I like her. Its Alyssa who i just dont like her acting style on Charmed.

Isn't it great that many more people still watched cause it's a great show.

And greedy. I read that she demanded for more money 🙄

Nope. Alyssa was & still is more famous & has a tone more work under her belt. Shannon Doherty. Was unprofessional as revealed in other interviews. I have met her a couple times & she was nice. But, work is different. I wish her nothing but peace & love. Alyssa is a sweetheart & does good in the world outside of entertainment. Rose McGowan is not cool in person. Just saying. Never met Holly. But, has her friends back. That’s cool.

Nah Alyssa was more famous. She was making movies and Shannon was unheard of.

@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE.saying shannen was unheard of is a flat out lie and you know it. We knew alyssa from whos the boss. Thats it. Shannen had done way more work prior to charmed which is why she was hand picked for her role. Alyssa wasnt even originally casted🙄

Agreed

she wasnt even in the show originally, not cool!

Agree

Rose literally said this about Alyssa because Alyssa continued to support Weinstein's wife and children after everything came out about him (and what he did to her)...

​@@harleypaynefultsunamiwilli463something tell me she has some link to Epstein.....

@@navkb6156 ohhhhhhhhhh

Four and five were actually good but for the most part Charmed was a hammy show.

so did Holly playing the evil Piper. What's your point?

same

Reduced to crap? I think not. Although the first 3 seasons were great, season 4 was brilliantly executed. The themes, the stories, the demons, the Book of Shadows, season 5 was great too. Season 6 was ok. Season 7 was exceptional. Season 8 was okay but would have been better without Billie and Christie.

I Love Shannen’s movie Blindfold, so good. Xxx

I would love it very much since I love Prue , Piper and Page the best! Not so much love at all for Phoebe who had always negatively rubbed me wrong way. Phoebe was my least liked character on the show.

@@pamjarvis2318 yes same here I just wish we new who email we need to hit up to voice our concerns!

Yess please 🙏🏻

Yep. If you don't like eachother, suck it up. Now if say the other is making it difficult. Not learning the lines and sabotaging scenes or showing up late, or provoking. That is different, but if you are jealous over each other. Like get over yourselves and do your job.

The golden girls did this. Bea Arthur was not overly fond of Betty White but they kept it professional.

@@nomizaksame with Desperate Housewives and the whole Teri Hatcher drama thing. Though you gotta admit, she WAS the star in season 1.

@alucinado1021 I never watched DH but Shannen was def the star in every season she was in. I've said this elsewhere but they treated Holly and Alyssa like sidekicks for the 3 seasons she was on the show. It should've been an ensemble cast from the start. We never would've gotten the cole/phoebe storyline we got has she stayed on the show.

She didn't take accountability for all, she took accountability for her part. Stop twisting her words

@@christianaayodele so you tell me what Alyssa meant .. by “taking accountability for her part” in which SHANNEN is saying her part was getting her fired help me understand your point because right now the narrative is she got Shannen fired which is backed by Holly .. sooooo what is your point because what does Holly have to lie for ? If Alyssa made up an alluded to problems on set AND it was DOCUMENTED then made a case of complaints for a toxic work environment that’s definitely enough to get another person FIRED! That Karen was jealous and insecure and she played dirty to get her way. Then Rose comes along and she having similar issues I’d say take your rose colored glasses off sweetheart if it walks like a Karen and manipulates like a Karen wells it’s a KAREN.

That's what alyssa want people to believe

Holly is still stuck in the past

​@@isalisa909they both still stuck in the past

@@isalisa909 Everyone is stuck in their past, even you.

That’s literally what they said in the video. Did you watch it? lol 🙄🤦🏾‍♀️

The truth? I don't buy it. Seems like an excuse just to not give the fans a reboot of the show.

@@Liberal_From_Prairies689 there is a reboot of the show 🤷‍♀️

@@jonnyf3374 Sure 🤷‍♀️

I agree. They were all child star and had egos. I'm not saying that Alyssia couldn't have had diva moments, but Holly and Shanne were best friends walking into the show, they give me " mean girl" vibes and it feels like they are down playing the tension on set. At this point i don't get why they keep bring up the drama with Alyssia she has distanced herself away from the show to the point she hasn't gone to one fan convention. Just leave the girl alone what good does it do the draw up all this pass drama? It's just ruining the show for fans.

Alyssa ruined Charmed! As a kid it hurt alot now I have more closure which is awesome.

Shut up, Shannen is friends with all her 90210 cast mates, even Jennie Garth. If she was so hard to work with, then why did they work with her again during the reboot? Do you know Hollywood brands women actresses as “hard to work with” to shut them up all the time? Can’t stand these stupid takes from supposed “fans” of charmed

​​@@kikiiza3379an actor from Buffy who guest starred on charmed in season 4 called all three of them horrible

That's not true

It’s not true, she got herself fired

Both are crazy

Tbf, Shannon was fired from 90210. Which was also produced by Aaron spelling. Spelling had even said Shannon was hard to work with. Not saying any of it was right but there are many different sides to this story.

happens to nice people all the time.

@@beepboop9464 I'm willing to believe Aaron. They both seemed jealous of each other and very stuck up.

We all knew Alyssa was the issue but people wanted details. The podcast that Shannon and Holly did gave us plenty of details.

I So Agree Charmed Was Not The Same

And Mr. Kern -who also had his own plans, played a significant part in conspiring with Alyssa the moment he drove Ms. Burge to leave.

Did you not hear a word from this?

I'm an OG fan and I believe all of them are to blame

Did you miss like everything? 😂😂😂

Not really. If it was a hostile work environment claim she was threatening and if SD was at the center of it, removing her would show the execs took the necessary steps to address the issue, so the liability threat would be removed if Alyssa stayed. It's not really that hard to believe. AM didn't make the decisions herself. She gave them an either or choice to make. The Cole storyline being an influencing factor is an interesting thought I had not considered. I doubt the suits making those decisions cared one bit about the show itself though. More likely than not, they realized that firing SD was the less risky option. Spelling had already done it once before and she went quietly. Firing AM would bring the threat of lawsuits and retaliation claims (it would look like AM was fired for raising the claims). This is assuming what HMC and SD said is true. None of us were there so we don't know. Based on what Rose has said about AM, I'm inclined to believe Holly. If you listen to the podcast, that would be an awful elaborate lie to concoct. I doubt we'll ever hear the full version of events though. It's really just sad.

@@fong03 The case would only hold up if the courts believed SD was solely responsible for the work environment being hostile. Given what AM has owned up to in recent years, I doubt they would have, so SD could've easily filed a counter suit. Either way, I'm not inclined to believe HMC - she seems to constantly change sides between her co-stars depending on whoever has public favour at the time. Back then, despite being good friends with SD, she was often on AM's side, and now that SD has cancer, AM is the villain? Workplace drama aside, the people in charge of the series were clearly the biggest villains. They took a series about 3 sisters mending their complicated relationships and turned it into a male fantasy, and no one can tell me any of the cast members really wanted that

@@T_Cup which is why I qualified the statement with "if SD was at the center of it." Listen to the podcast and you'll hear why a suit from SD was less likely. How was she "often on AM's side" and how did she "change sides?" The story at the time that everyone was telling about SD's departure was that she chose to left. The delve into that in the podcast as well. Rose already pointed out AM's alleged behavior on the set years ago, so it not at all that this is coming out of left field. You are also assuming that SD is lying too. Either you believe SD and HMC (and RM claims about AM's toxic behavior on set) or you believe AM. It seems more unlikely that all 3 of them are lying, nut we will just have to agree to disagree. I think the one thing we can agree on is the execs are really the ones who should have the most blame. HMC and SD talk about this on the podcast as well. I don't doubt that SD and AM were pitted against each other by the suits and whatever bad behavior either engaged in was probably encouraged or rewarded by the suits until they reached a breaking point.

Same. I started to dislike her when she hijacked the MeToo movement for an additional 15 minutes of fame, renamed it Times Up, and once she milked it dry for all the money and put it in her husband's company, then she gave it back to regular women. I looked back at Charmed after Prue and see hints of her femininst ways back then. My favorites are the darker, gritter years of Season 1- 3. Season 1 is probably my favorite for the ill fated romance between Prue and Andy. After Prue left, it was See Phoebe in skimpy outfits and more campier show. Piper was the glue who held the show together. Loved her relationship with Leo and her children Wyatt and Chris. Love Season 7 when the cute Drew Fuller joined the show as Chris and Leo turned dark. Hated how they ruined Cole's character especially when they brought him back from the dead and had him obsessed with Phoebe when he could have any woman he wanted. Season 4 was the darkest season. Season 8 was the weakest season with a great two part series finale. I don't remember season 4 through 6 that well, but Paige grew on me. I liked the Dark Enchantress episode, the one when she finds out who her father was, the love scene with the best friend before the episode where he married another woman. Season 7 was probably my fourth favorite season. The show was great with Prue and only good without her. I think Season Six ended with them in some weird Witness Protection thing. Shannon just had that It factor. Holly was the regular girl with the exception of her iconic Coyote Ugly dance scene when she was possessed by Glinda, and Phoebe was pretty to look at.