I am biased because the Jaguar is a love affair. To own one is to love one and yes you can love a car. The Jag just has so much personality and it is so gorgeous but also a most usable muscle car with rear wheel biased AWD which is packed with class and panache. Accordingly, to drive one is to become addicted especially in dynamic mode - it is such a total beast that sings like a big cat and they are such eye candy - especially in British Racing Green.
@rf84812 жыл бұрын
I should add that the Jaguar F Pace is a very reliable car. The only problem I have had with mine was the plastic coloration on the radio volume knob (passenger side) flaked and it was replaced under warranty - I suspect that one of the several women I live with was using nail polish remover to clean off makeup smudges from the trim as they tend to put on their make up in the car on their way to school in the AM ...bloody uncivilized I tell you, but with time management being such an endless challenge these days.........that said, I never, and I mean never shave or shower in the Jag and I frequently am racing the clock (BTW - no better daily racer than a JAG if you are in a hurry on hilly and twisty back roads.) Now if JLR would put a 12 V socket for a hair dryer in the back seat alongside dual lighted vanity mirrors, that would be a big hit with a large market demographic of teenage girls! Further the leather is very high quality and very durable as my 130 and 110 pound American Akita canines can attest to unconditionally. Nothing better than driving down a country road with two bear sized heads outside of the back windows since the drag coefficient means that any drool gets picked up by the slip stream and is then harmlessly deposited on the windshield of the BMW behind you and the lucky BMW driver is most unlikely to lodge any protest at the next stop light as having two heavily boned Pleistocene Epoch Dire Wolf sized dogs with bear shaped heads in the back seat just adds that extra level of shock and awe to an already spectacular looking and sounding ride with the gorgeous Leaper icon on the boot.
@victordo94082 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this when it was meant to be released a few days ago! The wait was worth it.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there was a processing issue on KZfaq’s end. Solved now!
@franka16212 жыл бұрын
You’re excelling yourself,Tom. This was a magnificent comparison - but for me, the effortless grand touring ability of the Jag (and a spare wheel) clinched it. You can’t go past a V8 and the servicing costs were amazing on the Jag. Although I shudder to think what happens beyond the 5 year mark cost-wise… especially as it would be a car which I’d like to consider a keeper.
@choptang5642 жыл бұрын
This is a fair comparison. The SVR is no doubt the better all round package but if you're really into driving and engagement then the Stelvio wins it for me. It just has so much passion and soul which is why I would feel more attached to it. If you want great infotainment, more practicality, better ride comfort, better warranty, then get the SVR. If you're fine with good enough infotainment, good enough practicality, good enough ride comfort, ok warranty, but want the absolute best handling and driver focus SUV on the market then the Alfa is for you. The SVR is an amazing machine which I wouldn't complain to own but I went with the Alfa. Montreal Green Stelvio QV arriving in a couple of weeks!
@acreviews56342 жыл бұрын
Send pics! I want to order but not sure which colour. Leaning towards Montreal Green.
@mobreis5620 Жыл бұрын
Its been almost a year now mate, what have you thoughts been on your purchase. I am literally on the fence, dont know which one to buy. I have driven both, and the Alfa wins hands down. Look forward to your comments :)
@choptang564 Жыл бұрын
@mobreis5620 still loving my stelvio qv. I have since lowered it on springs which now looks how it should, remapped it to 600bhp and 880nm torque by celtic tuning, and taken it on a road trip to Switzerland and Italy through stelvio pass and it hasn't missed a beat(touch wood) at all. I have been thinking if I was to change cars, what would I get? I can't think of any other car I would rather have right now. My friend had a svr and he said mine just felt more raw and aggressive. His was more comfy and luxurious. So just depends what you want from a car.
@mobreis5620 Жыл бұрын
@@choptang564 that you for your prompt reply, greatly appreciated! :) Your spot on ref your observations, I have test driven both and the Alfa is on another level, but I must admit, the Jag sounds extraordinary. I cant imagine how exhilarating it would be to drive your car through the Stelvio pass! WOW! I too cant think of any other car that could replace your weapon! Enjoy ;)
@brucehealey64222 жыл бұрын
Leased a Stelvio (not a quadrifoglio) and while it was certainly fun to drive even with the base engine. That said it was plagued with faults and was towed twice. I turned it in early after the dealership wouldn’t/couldn’t tell me why the battery kept draining. Sometimes the sound would go off by itself and another time the sunroof stuck open but closed after restarting. Plus the boot is tiny. And it was recalled 3 times. Bought the F-Pace SVR in July and it is a far more solid car, far fewer glitches and has been totally reliable. Bigger boot and better amenities especially the control screen and sound system.
@arcstar0006 ай бұрын
hows reliability been on the svr? considering one w 20k miles to daily, dumb idea but its just perfect in my eyes!
@brucehealey64226 ай бұрын
The engine and electrical systems have been 100% reliable. Mine has 24k miles now. The entertainment system has an occasional glitch: it turns itself off. I turn it back on. The SVR is an awesome machine that measures mile in smiles. Get one with a full service history and I reckon it’ll be a solid daily.
@arcstar0006 ай бұрын
@@brucehealey6422 thanks for the quick info!! Yea I mean I'm not rich, I'm only 20, probably not the smartest idea butttt I can afford to own one and EVERYONE gets the German equivalents to this beauty. Never seen an SVR in person before (I'm in NY). and life too short to drive boring cars imo✌🏼
@arcstar0006 ай бұрын
@@brucehealey6422 and yeah I've heard it's pretty common for that to happen on these but from other ownership experiences I've seen it's never really turned into anything more than that. Although I'd be going for a 2020 since I can't rly afford the facelift unfortunately, and I know the infotainment glitch is present on that but idk Abt the facelift one since it's a whole new thing n software
@brucehealey64226 ай бұрын
Yeah. The PIVI PRO software is nice as it allows over the air updates but the pre facelift model is easier to reinstall the software if you have to. The V8 is bulletproof though just make sure it’s been maintained! Good luck.
@gummiesrule882 жыл бұрын
I love the Jag engine. A classic. I have it in my 2021 F-Pace SVR, and in a 2014 XKR. Cannot get enough of it. Especially in the F-Pace, it makes for a delicious combination of analog, old-style instant power with a classy, refined interior experience. I bought the SVR because I knew that while small twin turbo v-6 engines will be around for awhile yet, supercharged V-8s will not. As you say, now is the time. And I got in just before the chip shortage, so it has the doo-dads that fit the high-end SUV profile.
@gummiesrule882 жыл бұрын
Plus, I have other cars for more serious hooning on the track. The better half barely tolerates those, but she LOVES the F-Pace.
@jaysonmyst76162 жыл бұрын
Every reviewer who floors a Quadrifoglio always ends up laughing and speechless 🤣 love it....
@jeffstryker1454 Жыл бұрын
I love both cars but I would take the Jag I just love the supercharge V8.
@SunnyJ9072 жыл бұрын
The Stelvio is being labeled as the Giulia through the video 😅
@brainsmatterpodcast2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that made me 🤔😆
@Nodirm932 ай бұрын
not a bad thing
@chasinglimits2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think how far along SUVs came in like the last couple decades. Can’t go wrong with either one, but I must choose the Alfa, love the way it feels and sounds with every Up shift! Great review 👍
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
It is. So far from the primitive first luxury SUVs. More like raised hatchbacks or wagons now … but there are still physics working against their height and weight.
@chasinglimits2 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars very true, such as the center of gravity is still higher than say the Giulia which nets a much much better time at the track, even though Stelvio has the awd advantage.
@tahsin282 жыл бұрын
Have we? Remember the grand tour episode where these suvs went into limp mode when they were trying to softroad at over 5kmph?
@aayonce42 жыл бұрын
I would consider the Jag being an owner of an Alfa Ti Sport it has great character but comfort is not a strong point. Sometimes I go back and forth about trading it in but the moment I put it in Sport mode I fall back in love with the car. It’s just so great to toss into corners and give BMW owners something to think about when they look at me and I’m keeping up with them corner for corner. The SUV is deceptively quick . I’m torn I would love to try an fPACE
@yogeshevarestthapa52622 жыл бұрын
Love the jag and it’s British class🇬🇧just looks amazing.
@davidlongman23412 жыл бұрын
The Stelvio has an option of a space saver spare wheel if you want one. Which incidentally I do, therefore I sourced one and installed it. From new the spare wheel is an option at comparatively little expense. The foam can option is to be avoided. The salesman will happily tell you how few spare tyres are even fitted in the life of the car but when you get a flat at two in the morning in the rain on a remote road the salesman will be tucked up at home in bed, it will be you who is glad that there is at least a spare wheel which you can fit to get you home.
@eugsoh812 жыл бұрын
Great review Tom, never thought about the Jag, but I more luxury than performance leaning towards the F-Pace, so delish!
@yoof012 жыл бұрын
I’ve only driven the Jag, but it’s the one for me. Looks better Sounds better Rides better Less road/wind noise Better interior Can’t see the attraction with the Stelvio, lighter and more feel in the steering? Still heavy. Oh and FYI, Apple CarPlay is now wireless (they quietly changed it, maybe an over the air update?)
@denalisiomontpellier406424 күн бұрын
Not that heavy at 4220 lbs
@SuperAlmighty2 жыл бұрын
agreed the F-Pace is better in comparison
@stephantranquille66812 жыл бұрын
Another great show, well done! Is there any chance you could grab a camera when talking about the interior? Telling us how good everything looks only goes so far without vision. Thank you.
@bc85802 жыл бұрын
Tom this is a fair review. I watched your M3 and Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio video intently and noted your enthusiasm for the Italian masterpiece for its ability to strike an almost perfect and unmatched driving dynamics for a sports sedan. It appears that the Stelvio Quadrifoglio may not have achieved that same balance for a SUV particularly against the Jaguar. Excellent review.
@coltr75612 жыл бұрын
well that Stelvio is for driving and handling, but if you like more driving straight in bad roads, then maybe Jag for you.
@bc85802 жыл бұрын
@@coltr7561 Agreed. I prefer “driving” in the Giulia Quadrifoglio. When it comes to SUV, it’s a fairly hauler for me.
@TalismanPHX2 жыл бұрын
Firstly, both are beautifully styled inside and out. One of my best friends owned a 2018 Giulia Quad here in the States and loved driving it, but my God was it unreliable. Many, many warranty repairs. So, I'd choose the Jaguar, especially with the SVRs intoxicating V8 roar. I smiled every time you floored the accelerator, Tom. And the Jag's interior is really stunningly beautiful. Awesome review, enthusiastically done, Mr Baker. Cheers from Virginia USA 🇺🇸 👍
@johnmanciameli97522 жыл бұрын
Thats a shame. I bought a 2nd hand Guilia Quad here in OZ and havent had one issue in 18 months.
@unpluggedkiwi10632 жыл бұрын
The Alfa is, unfortunately, a SPORT utility vehicle that can not tow any 'sport' toys. No jetski, no ski boat etc. While it is a beautiful vehicle, the fact that it can't tow would rule it out for me.
@rowanmckeever73472 жыл бұрын
The things you do for us Tom! 😉 That Jag sounds soooooo good! Shame not to see the XC60 T8 thrown into this group but a different thing I guess.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Interesting car, that XC60 T8, but I think the best is yet to come from Volvo / Polestar on a performance SUV.
@G0ddEityawesome10 ай бұрын
Get outta here with your grandma Volvo 😂
@shurein27952 жыл бұрын
Both are great
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
True. Two great cars
@thomasferrarojr.97722 жыл бұрын
There's no comparison in driving dynamics and steering feel. The Alfa is quite a bit more nimble and alive. The Jag has a nicer interior and thr great V8 sound. But the Alfa V6 soinds great, too. The stats sheet does not tell the whole story. They couldn't be more different in execution. Alfa for me!
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
I mean, there is a comparison. That’s the whole point. The Alfa does have better steering feel but that’s only one element of a sporty SUV.
@thomasferrarojr.97722 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars Haha ok. I hear you. I just mean for me, the Alfa is much more engaging to drive.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Much to like about the Alfa. Have you driven both?
@thomasferrarojr.97722 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars Yes. Of course. 👍
@coltr75612 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars it has also better handlind and driveability, not only steering, that heavy old tech v8 lumb in Jag makes its heavy and bad handling
@jamesheggie18542 жыл бұрын
Tom, awesome review mate and I love some the double entendre humor you slipped in there. Man that Jag is a beast, I'm in love, that would be my pick hands down.
@samcas7072 жыл бұрын
Have owned my F Type R since ordering new in 2015. When the first born came along, there was no question what dad wagon to go with… my fully optioned BRG on full oyster SVR going into production week 51 just within whiskers of the semiconductor tech crunch
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@midlandgeordie2 жыл бұрын
Great choice 👍
@tanmayvaishnav53772 жыл бұрын
Alfa romeo is the best suv
@tanmayvaishnav53772 жыл бұрын
Alfa can beat m3 but the spot of alfa is better
@jackyhsu54743 ай бұрын
Yes....I've been trying to recommend SUV to my wife between F-pace and Stelvio just for good looking .... But she booked and pay for F-pace at first time when she looked this big Jaguar.....No matter what I tried to convince her how special and personality in Alfa ... We never any chance to visit Alfa dealership....( BTW I don't why.. But almost Asia ladies I knew can't accept the front face of Alfa...Including my wife)
@MrSalespo9 ай бұрын
Maybe that's Australian money ....I bought my 2023 alfa romeo stelvio quad rosso red etna for 77k 14 under retail....love lt love it
@Yogidre2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review as usual Tom. 14:14 to 14:20 is comedy cold 😂.
@johnmanciameli97522 жыл бұрын
Alfa for me. Then I am biased. I own a Guilia Quattroformaggio. Tom - Waiting for you to review the Maserati Levante Trofeo.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Quattroformaggio 😂
@johnmanciameli97522 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars Maserati Levante Truffle?
@PaulWalker-zb8mg7 ай бұрын
Did you shift the Jag into sports mode (whilst in Dynamic) as I didn’t hear you say that. It shifts the gear ratio significantly holding lower gears off the pedal for the best sound….
@caymanblack95672 жыл бұрын
SVR was quicker than the QV when raced by carwow.
@jazzip29892 жыл бұрын
2 great machines 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@trevorsutherland52632 жыл бұрын
My two favorite SUVs!!!
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Awesome cars!
@waleesahmad83525 ай бұрын
Jaguar for me 🔥🔥🔥
@melbguy12 жыл бұрын
I have my test drive booked for the F-Pace this weekend, so will report my findings..
@THExKINGxKINGx2 жыл бұрын
Did you drive both?
@melbguy12 жыл бұрын
@@THExKINGxKINGx No I've shelved that for now. I'm waiting to see what the 2024 Alfa Stelvio Quadrifoglio and Porsche Macan GTS look like
@DS-gm8en2 жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo and it must be red!
@colinc73172 жыл бұрын
Why are these for when you don’t want a bmw or merc…. !! These are both better than the German bore-mobiles. You lost me at the beginning. Fed up with journos scared to upset mainstream fodder.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
If you actually watched the video, you would have heard me explain all about how the AMG and M vehicles in this segment aren’t actually that great, mainly because they ride poorly - so it seems like you were the one proceeding on a false assumption, not me
@jhref2 жыл бұрын
Small gripe but it's legitimately crazy that there isn't any USB charging in the back of a recently designed, $140,000 car.
@ivanm62482 жыл бұрын
Yes there is... but only if you pay for it - 2 x USB-C
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, should be standard.
@Gunsdings12342 жыл бұрын
The Alfa is all over more practice...so much more space to load. You can sleep in it.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
The Jag is longer and wider, though, it must be said
@didixon42272 жыл бұрын
0:47 Typo
@didixon42272 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 I’m infatuated with him 🤤
@coltr75612 жыл бұрын
easy choice Alfa is superior in drivers point of view.
@TheMagicOfReality12 жыл бұрын
No comments on the reliability or customer experience?!
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
We don’t collate reliability data but made extensive commentary about the warranty arrangements
@davidperry35312 жыл бұрын
Both these cars seem to have very loud road noise. Is this so?
@nickpatrizi55327 ай бұрын
You gota go with your heart Tom, and the Alfa is it.
@DukeBen3166632 жыл бұрын
Tough day at the office Tom!
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
A burden.
@ravenbonanza15222 жыл бұрын
I like both but if I'll take 1 of the 2, I'll get the Jag
@ryandevillers2142 жыл бұрын
Fyi at 40 seconds the stelvio is labelled as a giulia in the video
@nicktozie66859 ай бұрын
The Jaaaaaag is awesome
@patrickbateman68852 жыл бұрын
Seem like 2 great suvs with beautiful motors, but you probably wouldn’t wanna keep them longer than 2-3 years given reliability.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
That’s fast becoming the norm for first owners shopping in this segment. Not commenting on whether or not that’s good, but it’s not unusual
@rf84812 жыл бұрын
The Jaguar F Pace is a very reliable car. The only problem I have had with mine was the plastic coloration on the radio volume knob (passenger side) flaked and it was replaced under warranty - I suspect that one of the several women I live with was using nail polish removal to clean off makeup smudges from the trim as they tend to put on their make up in the car on their way to school in the AM ...bloody uncivilized I tell you, but with time management being such an endless challenge these days.........that said, I never, and I mean never shave or shower in the Jag and I frequently am racing the clock (BTW - no better daily racer than a JAG if you are in a hurry on hilly and twisty back roads.) Now if JLR would put a 12 V socket for a hair dryer in the back seat alongside dual lighted vanity mirrors, that would be a big hit with a large market demographic of teenage girls! Further the leather is very high quality and very durable as my 130 and 110 pound American Akita canines can attest to unconditionally. Nothing better than driving down a country road with two bear sized heads outside of the back windows since the drag coefficient means that any drool gets picked up by the slip stream and is then harmlessly deposited on the windshield of the BMW behind you and the lucky BMW driver is most unlikely to lodge any protest at the next stop light as having two heavily boned Pleistocene Epoch Dire Wolf sized dogs with bear shaped heads in the back seat just adds that extra level of shock and awe to an already spectacular looking and sounding ride with the gorgeous Leaper icon on the boot.
@londo02 жыл бұрын
I am an alfista, but SUVs are everything that's wrong with cars. Wouldn't buy any of them, nor stelvio.
@nchia2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, White just kills it for me with the Alfa. In my Universe it shouldn't even be an option.
@somesh7784 Жыл бұрын
Y the fuk do you still make videos in 1080p, even an iPhone has a 4k setup
@markward32422 жыл бұрын
Great vid and I agree with you I’d take the jag
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
It’s especially good.
@markward32422 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars I would have one in a heart beat mate
@NITER1DER2 жыл бұрын
Traded in my Stelvio for a QV a week ago. Love the way it handles and drives. But when it comes to liability. It’s questionable.
@ceejay72412 жыл бұрын
What issues have you had with it?
@CathodeRayNipplez2 жыл бұрын
I like Jags and am a huge sucker for an Alfa but even then it's hard to get excited about an SUV.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
A drive of either would probably change your mind on this pair
@CathodeRayNipplez2 жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars Only if they perform better in a gymkhana slalom than a sedan. Strangely I never see SUVs doing anything that involves braking and turning. Outside of squabbling for spots in a supermarket carpark that is...
@DirtyDingusMcGee3 ай бұрын
V8 all the way.
@delta37112 жыл бұрын
Ford vs Alfa
@NNooshaAlfa2 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Alfa all day long
@Will.19766 ай бұрын
Just a shame you didnt drive them properly
@esteban75lover232 жыл бұрын
The jaguar is by far the superior choice
@thomasferrarojr.97722 жыл бұрын
🤣
@coltr75612 жыл бұрын
lol Alfa is superior drivers car. Jag is old tech v8 monster with bad handling
@gordonclark76322 жыл бұрын
Hard choice but maybe the Jag due to longer warranty and servicing costs.
@ohhyesitsonlyme2 жыл бұрын
Well, I’m fully biased towards the Alfa as I have had a Misano Blue Quadrifoglio since July and it is a proper drivers car. Considered the Jag, but didn’t need that size and the 5 litre V8 is too old a lump. When you buy a performance SUV, having lots of tech and digital displays isn’t necessary. The Alfa stirs the soul, the engine sounds superb. Sure it’s not perfect, but then neither is the Jag. The Alfa is already a wide car and the Jag is 12cm wider makes it an even bigger parking headache! When you buy an Alfa you expect some quirks and oddities but you quickly forgive and forget simply because the car is so engaging to drive.
@seskybanana35072 жыл бұрын
Actually the banner of the stelvio at the beginning had the name - Alfa Romeo GIULIA Quadrifoglio
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Oops
@esteban75lover232 жыл бұрын
the ride of the alfa sounds like its rattling the entire to pieces...
@coltr75612 жыл бұрын
? do you have somethuing in your ears? I think its that Jag what is rattling, that should not be any wonder If you think about Jags quality in the past.
@JohnBest842 жыл бұрын
quadrIfoglio and not quadrOfoglio !
@tahsin282 жыл бұрын
Stelvio looks nothing like the Giulia and it looks bad. I've seen enough examples since launch and I am correct.
@spagbowlsparmacheese6292 жыл бұрын
Jag means nothing today.. Not even in the same league as Alfa.
@vicsh45812 жыл бұрын
Jag for me, v8 rocks.
@chasingcars2 жыл бұрын
Love the five litre!
@dirtygore2 жыл бұрын
He really thinks he's driving these cars on back country roads 🤣 he needs to get out of the city more.