Which R-Rated Hatch Is Best? (Honda Civic Type R vs Volkswagen Golf R 2024 Comparison Review)

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Detailed review and comparison of the VW Golf R Mk 8 and Honda Civic Type R FL5 including performance, handling, ride, interior and more.
In this video, Chasing Cars deputy editor Curt Dupriez conducts a comparison of two top-line hot hatches: the 2024 Golf R with AWD and the 2024 Civic Type R with FWD.
Which one is the right choice for you?
Time codes:
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - Key differences
0:53 - Test criteria
1:19 - Civic Type R on road
4:16 - Golf R on road
8:27 - Golf R interior
10:23 - Civic Type R interior
12:01 - Ownership
12:25 - Servicing costs
12:55 - Verdict section
13:09 - Which one is hotter?
13:52 - Which one is nicer to live with?
Chasing Cars makes Australia's most independent car reviews.

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@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

Note: Various driving segments filmed at our private facility. 👍🏼

@Laura-sm6tx 3 ай бұрын

Can you compare yaris hybrid vs prius

@gwen0437 3 ай бұрын

Remember when they were affordable.

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

Golf R was $47,990 for a manual Grid Edition in 2018 (or $57K with inflation taken into account). The same year, the Civic Type R was about $56K driveaway (or about $66K factoring in inflation).

@JacesOwnWorld 3 ай бұрын

Neither are great deals, but the Golf R is the better deal. It’s AWD and faster. 95% of owners aren’t taking these cars to the track, and of the 5% who do, only 5% can exploit their full capabilities. So all this “ TR handles better” is just dumb marketing. In everyday driving, the Golf R is a lot nicer to daily, quicker, and a true year long vehicle due to its AWD. It’s also cheaper. CTR is way overpriced.

@alpe6228 3 ай бұрын

@@JacesOwnWorld Its not about wich car is better at this point lol.The type-r will go up in value in the upcoming years while the golf R as good as it is will be sell for cheap and be forgotten cause its gonna be considered just another vw Golf....

@speeddemon311 3 ай бұрын

Golf R will also hold its value quite well actually!!@alpe6228

@ronaldov09 3 ай бұрын

@@JacesOwnWorld There's a 95% chance you're making up those percentages...

@w00t777 3 ай бұрын

I can't believe I live in a world where 80k Honda Civic exists 😂

@ROVA00 3 ай бұрын

Bro the NSX came out in the 90’s

@w00t777 3 ай бұрын

@@ROVA00 bro, I said Honda Civic 😆

@ROVA00 3 ай бұрын

@@w00t777 oh yeah my bad. My brain is malfunctioning today

@spawn11 3 ай бұрын

Canada or AAustralia hahaha. In Australia it makes sense as wages are higher too

@Bor8O3I5 Ай бұрын

only in Australia

@stevewallace1387 3 ай бұрын

I had the TYPE R before I brought my mustang and after having my mustang for three years which I love to bits I would have no problem going back too the TYPE R it's that's good

@davothegreat9990 3 ай бұрын

Fwd wrecks it though. Especially off the mark.

@nocapproductions5471 3 ай бұрын

@@davothegreat9990it doesnt. Honda aced it, you barely notice thats its fwd except of the line, and even there it grips better than other fwd cars.

@davothegreat9990 3 ай бұрын

@@nocapproductions5471 Elantra N is fwd and destroys the ctr off the line. Not even close!

@ThePegi27 3 ай бұрын

@@davothegreat9990 Who give a shit about off the line. Thats why I have faster cars than these off the line... And may I say: I'm too old for that shit (off the line racing). After driving F1 car, there is no fast cars either :) . Last thing, Elantra N looks... so not thank you.

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

@@davothegreat9990 it's what makes it

@robertmccormick5646 3 ай бұрын

I drove both. I ended up with the Golf R. The mature interior items. Heated seats and steering wheel, and AWD won me over. The type R was really nice but it didn't have that fun factor like the Golf R. In USA we can still get the 6spd. It's comparable to the Type R but the type R factory is better there. 2nd is tricky at first in the golf. The Golf R as it always seems with VW needed a bigger rear sway bar and needed some better tires. Once those are done it gains what the type R has on corners and is still way faster on the straight aways. You can't beat the performance and mpg of the Golf R and awd. It's a great vehicle for whatever weather is thrown at you and can still have fun in all of it. Most Golf Rs actually dyno at 329hp. Haven't heard is thr type Rs are the same. In the end, I really think like is said in this video, it's your driving style. I much perfer the awd and long term the interior on the golf R is better for daily and road trips. The Type R has more rear room but somehow VW has done some magic and those seats and room is quite comfy even for me at 5'11 and there's rear climate control and heated seats which my 9 year old son loves.

@rabihdeeb111 3 ай бұрын

You are right about all what you sayed golf r more fun and type r never come with sunroof I don't know why and also my opinion is the time for type r to come more power and allwheel drive sorry my English bad ❤

@jkujda 3 ай бұрын

A sunroof would add weight, and that is where the type r shines. It’s lighter weight. Both great cars, but I prefer the Honda just due to it being more “pure”. Totally subjective. I drive a 2019 Type R and shopped it against a VW R. I think I would have been happy either way! McCormick that was a great comparison of the two newer ones.

@rabihdeeb111 3 ай бұрын

@jkujda ok clear now thanks you are right about the weight but in my opinion it gives it more beautiful and present .I love honda I have civic 2007 r18 manual american sistem here in my country Lebanon turbo charge just 250 hp high torque very quick is faster to golf gti 5 and 6 and 7 even bmw 335 and gold r and mitsubishi evo stock and sti in fact a dangerous car on the road I love it very fun

@rudyrodriguez7609 2 ай бұрын

Wow I was ready to bag on the golf but you made really valid points. But reliability that motor is gutless with out the turbo

@rudyrodriguez7609 2 ай бұрын

@@rabihdeeb111sun roof = more weight performance bad

@noell214 2 ай бұрын

Great review Curt, like the way you covered their strengths and particulars here and there to keep things interesting. Looking forward to your comparison with the GR Corolla. I have an FL5, and tested a GR Corolla. If the Golf R came in manual I reckon I would’ve had a conundrum. For the Golf R - was there any benefit of having the HVAC digital Eg voice controlled or remote via app? Otherwise i wonder how that got checked off during design. I will say that I took the civic out at SMSP a few weeks ago, just sublime. Compares well to my outgoing 86.

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

Great review and nicely balanced.

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

Currently run GR7.5, which enjoy with a stage 1 boost. I was looking at the last CTR, but then the GR Yaris came along in 2021, which I impulse purchased and covers all the gaps in Golf R running, and is the most fun car I have ever 14:40 had. Slower yet quicker than the Golf most times and places on the damp UK bumpy roads. No space fir a CTR, although I admire what Honda have done (styling aside) to hone their hot hatch.

@axledog7297 3 ай бұрын

I've owned both a Mk7.5 R and an FL5 (along with a Focus RS). Great video!

@mattk-kf9fx 3 ай бұрын

I have had my FL5 Type R for 12 months now. Absolutely love the car. The only let down has been all of the rattles from the dash and other areas of the car. Some obvious cost cutting from Honda…

@zakootajin 3 ай бұрын

Fantastic review. Completely unbiased

@steveallen1340 3 ай бұрын

My head says Golf R my heart says Type R.

@TRD_Nate Ай бұрын

I had a 23 mk8R, if I had to do it over again, I’d go FL5 type R.

@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt 3 ай бұрын

$72,600 AUD for the FL5 type R vs $85,000 for golf R 8.

@Markcantfindausernam 3 ай бұрын

Hmmm, I feel like powering through, as opposed to just out of, corners in a Golf R, reveals the real benefits of that RS3 diff arrangement. It requires a bit of a shift in driving style and to be fair the more tight the corner the better. Just my humble opinion and Im not a motoring journalist.

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

No; you are right

@johnborsil5396 2 ай бұрын

Ah damn, I was hoping you were comparing the manual version of the Golf R. That's what I have. Same color & everything

@jimsgaragetoys 3 ай бұрын

The first problem is that the Civic Type R isn't a hatchback, it's a liftback/fastback. The Golf R is a true hatchback.

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

Hatchback is handy fir family duties.

@jimsgaragetoys 3 ай бұрын

@@gaycha6589 I agree that a hatchback is handy, but the Civic Type R still isn't a hatchback so this comparison isn't comparing 2 hatchbacks!

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

I think you’d be very hard pressed to find people who don’t think the Civic Type R is a hot hatch. Especially when the distinction you’re trying to make is a tough one to agree with…liftbacks are, of course, hatchbacks at their core

@jimsgaragetoys 3 ай бұрын

@@chasingcars By definition a hatchback has a hatch angle of 45 degrees or more, while a liftback has an angle less than 45 degrees. Liftbacks have been around since I can remember and they were always called lift backs. I'm not sure why people are not being accurate and calling them what they are. A liftback is a design choice and is nothing positive or negative, it's just what it is. But the Type R isn't a hot hatch, it's a liftback just like my wife's Prius which nobody has ever called a hatchback. 🤣

@jeremydas723 Ай бұрын

@@jimsgaragetoys The term liftback is rarely used in the UK: we call them all hatchbacks.

@speeddemon311 3 ай бұрын

Great review like both cars a lot, but I decided to go a different route and purchase a 24 RS3!!

@robertmccormick5646 3 ай бұрын

If the RS3 still came in a manual 6spd, I would have been all over it. That 5cyl just sounds so good and typical with Audi the looks. They always are slightly ahead on the styles and the looks last longer than most cars without looking old.

@Vosovogalsyncope 2 ай бұрын

@robertmccormick5646 if RS3 came manual it would be on top of the list.

@speeddemon311 2 ай бұрын

@Vosovogalsyncope DCT is phenomenal and so engaging with the paddles!!

@maveric0738 3 ай бұрын

You never mentioned what tires the Golf R had.

@neutralsamurai231 3 ай бұрын

The civic looks so good in black

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

Agreed

@xili0966 3 ай бұрын

Isn't the Golf Wagon no longer available? Why mention it?

@tms977 3 ай бұрын

Still worth mentioning in a review though? It's not like you can't still buy a second hand R wagon.

@hartmutthomas989 3 ай бұрын

Optisch unterscheiden sich beide Fahrzeuge sehr intensiv. Letztendlich ist es Geschmacksache .Fertig

@nickviet9274 3 ай бұрын

Would love to test drive them myself

@InfoHubZA 3 ай бұрын

When you have performance cars, it only makes sense to race them as well.

@rinodoog 2 ай бұрын

Awd + hatch + 315 hp … perfect. Golf R.

@spinnetti Ай бұрын

After lots of weird interiors over the years, the Civic has a really nice interior and looks nice outside too. If it were AWD, I'd probably have one, but since it doesn't I'm more a VW/Audi guy though I have a GR Corolla now :)

@NathanE808 3 ай бұрын

Civic, has the pedigree and the looks

@gamingmadforever6363 2 ай бұрын

The looks🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣to me (obviously my opinion not everyone) it's the ugliest car ever built

@loganpadayachee6048 19 сағат бұрын

Its ugly especially the back boyhood racer😂

@MadAdventure919 3 ай бұрын

Golf has better technology with minimum modification you can unlock the beast.

@sarkishacikian62 3 ай бұрын

What speed are u going on the highway?

@richo2501 3 ай бұрын

Thoroughbred to describe a Type R? It's a nice car but I think that's taking it a bit far there Curt.....

@JustMeinYoutube 3 ай бұрын

So lucky in America we got the golf R with manual transmission making it an awesome performance car that does ir all, the all wheel drive is a huge difference and after this experience, I would not take a front wheel drive car tor performance

@lascaossos 3 ай бұрын

the civic needs serious competition its price has skyrocketed therefore there needs to be an hot hatch capable to take on the ctr competition is good

@chrisparr7476 3 ай бұрын

Civic easily. Not only because it’s a proper manual. But because it may be the Best manual gearbox ⚙️ car on sale today,!

@davothegreat9990 3 ай бұрын

Elantra N is cheaper and better fwd car on the street. Ctr is horrible down low.

@davothegreat9990 3 ай бұрын

Porsche has better manual transmissions. So no ctr isn't the best in the world

@chrisparr7476 3 ай бұрын

@@davothegreat9990 No it’s not. The previous type R was as had a larger turbo and tuned differently. New one is much more linear and less lag with the smaller turbo.

@BStudd1182 3 ай бұрын

@@davothegreat9990This is NOT accurate concerning the FL5. It pulls hard in the lower rpms in every gear. It’s really torque-e tbh.

@davothegreat9990 3 ай бұрын

@@BStudd1182 yet can't beat the Elantra N! Can't pull that hard...🤣

@rabihdeeb111 3 ай бұрын

I have important question please can somebody let me know why civic type r never come or has option like sunroof i never saw why?

@user-od7xe7ch8r 2 ай бұрын

Both cars are at their greatest and sadly their most expensive they've ever been. In my country the FL5 is priced at €56,500.00 whereas the Golf R Performance starts at €56,900.00 without options. However, wouldn't the Clubsport GTI be a fairer comparison to the Type R? The Clubsport starts at €45,500.00 but with some options factored in, it gets you really close to the FL5's price. It would have been more interesting if the Clubsport with DCC was also thrown in the mix with these two. Without having driven any of the lot, I'd choose Honda for their renowned reliability, superior racing pedigree, subjectively more interesting looks and my own perception of the brand. It's a multifactorial decision. Unfortunately, these type of cars are not readily available to test drive, in my country at least, and some of us will also be convinced through reviews.

@spawn11 3 ай бұрын

Reliability and looks goes to Type R. Everything else Gold R. Wider customer base too as it offers Automatic trans

@johnm7251 3 ай бұрын

Honda ergonomics have always been spot on

@tca6240 16 күн бұрын

Black is sick 😀👍

@ENGBriseB 2 ай бұрын

Insurance which one.

@omarnanana 3 ай бұрын

GTI not offering manual is more surprising than the PDiddy scandal

@solarflare1008 3 ай бұрын

Both are 20k over MSRP ?????????

@soulz23 3 ай бұрын

Look at all the R and GTI out there. It must be the better car, although the same crowd really want a RS3 or full M car.

@FadeI2Iblack 2 ай бұрын

I have a full M car (m4 comp) and Golf R, I’m going to sound old but I like the Golf more for daily. As it’s smaller and more road compliant (horrible roads in my country sometimes!). Though when it’s time to Drive 100% BMW.

@soulz23 2 ай бұрын

@@FadeI2Iblack Nice. Sounds like the Golf R and M4 have been great choices.

@FadeI2Iblack 2 ай бұрын

@@soulz23 Next time I'll get an Alpina b3. Can barely drive fast where I live (corners).

@talonfast25 3 ай бұрын

I own both, Golf R (DSG) is faster and a better daily driver, while the Type R is a better looking car that gets lots of attention, and the manual transmission is the best out there.

@BStudd1182 3 ай бұрын

An automatic that has the same power is usually always going to be a bit faster than a manual. With that said there’s a level of connectivity you get to the car with a stick shift that you simply cannot get from an automatic. Until I get to the point I can have 2 vehicles, I’ll always go manual every time. The FL5 is an amazing machine.

@danielgreensides8463 3 ай бұрын

Ya for sure Honda makes an amazing manual trans. The shift weight and throw is always perfect 👌

@racer247 3 ай бұрын

I drove both and him saying they both ride the same in comfort was a Joke. People are swapping the adjustable damper module from the ITS because of the harsh ride of the Civic.

@BStudd1182 3 ай бұрын

@@racer247 I daily the Type R myself and it’s not harsh at all to me personally but I’ve been accustomed to driving a lot of vehicles that have stiff suspensions. I’ve had a Porsche, STi , FGT to name a few. I’ll be keeping my FL5 stock tbh.

@racer247 3 ай бұрын

@BStudd1182 Bring it to Michigan, I've driven the CTR here and it's almost unbearable. Even " The Topher " changed his module out. 😂

@Hazza188 3 ай бұрын

I have a MK7 Golf R manual. I love it. I put a deposit on a FL5 Type R without even test driving it (as it was a pre-order). After putting my ego aside, I later backed out as $72,900 is just way too steep. These cars are getting way too expensive. The MK8 Golf R is being $85K it is way overpriced and auto only, even though the US market still comes in manual. For similar money would rather by a low kms used BMW M2 manual.

@ahmeda.3198 3 ай бұрын

Interesting, I thought the ‘R’ in VW stood for ‘Rabbit,’ I didn’t realize it meant ‘Race Edition.’

@loganpadayachee6048 19 сағат бұрын

Golf R anytime looks more classy❤

@markshillinglaw3003 3 ай бұрын

All hot hatches are way too expensive now a days An average working person wouldn’t be able to afford a new one in the real world in my opinion But I’d have the golf all day long

@s4awd2 2 ай бұрын

wish the CTR had all drive...

@ayosirsnow 3 ай бұрын

If you're an enthusiast you don't like stock cars.. Worth knowing that mod for mod the vw takes the win. A 500hp golf is beating a 500hp type r

@Marbind 3 ай бұрын

Only simple minded people think about straight lines only 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@psiturbo 3 ай бұрын

@@Marbind Straight line against a quattro system, same dynamic engineering of the RS3. 500hp on a fwd, good luck putting that power to the ground, torque steer and grip goes out the window the more it is modded.

@Marbind 3 ай бұрын

@@psiturbo You never heard about hondata traction control? Welcome to the future pal.

@psiturbo 3 ай бұрын

@@Marbind while the ECU is doing traction control on your fwd, the Golf R is balls to the walls on all four... While Type R is enabling it, Golf R is turning it off 🥱 The same traction control the Hodaah guys when doing their AWD conversion 🤣😂😂 What a future!

@lawler4461 3 ай бұрын

What about these vs the new model Audi S3?

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

When the new Audi S3 reaches Australia, we will test it! With the Golf R's diff, it sounds promising.

@nocapproductions5471 3 ай бұрын

S3 should be a little better but should also be more expensive.

@lawler4461 3 ай бұрын

@@nocapproductions5471 yeah I’m more talking about a 2019/22 vs a new model of these to match the price. But keen to see the 24 model comparison too.

@nocapproductions5471 3 ай бұрын

@@lawler4461 in that case i would choose slightly used audi over these as its a premium brand and should hold the value better over time. But my choice would be an M2, its in a similar price range while having more power and being overall a cooler car, better looking too, in my opinion.

@lawler4461 3 ай бұрын

@@nocapproductions5471 Thanks for your input I do appreciate it. This was what I was thinking, was just worried about Audi v BMW reliability. I’ve heard the S3 is a tiny bit safer to own as a daily

@Anthony-gi7zz 3 ай бұрын

Why oay iver the odds for the type r and its over inflated price. buy the used 10th edition.i personally think the 10th styling despite being out their is better than the over oriced 11th edition.. how can honda justify such a mark uo from the 10th to 11th edition when its the same engine bu different turbeo and styling.. Grab the 10th edition.. and alter what you require.. it will still be cheaper than the 11th. And as people have stated.. will people really use on the tracks.. .. most wont hence why i got the 10th edition Honda civic sport plus...

@ryb2189 3 ай бұрын

The Gulf R is a full second faster than the Type R.

@Marbind 3 ай бұрын

In a straight line. Add turns and things change unfavorably to the Golf 😗

@mazpr2025 3 ай бұрын

@@Marbind on a rainy and snowy day.... Golf R // 13:22 type r when dry

@Marbind 3 ай бұрын

@@mazpr2025 I drive a 320hp fwd car on rainy roads without problems. Is just stupid to drive aggressively even with awd anyway. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@mazpr2025 3 ай бұрын

@@Marbind I can ride a bicycle on rainy roads without problems. Can you follow the discussion? Nobody so far is questioning a fwd ability on wet roads.

@Marbind 3 ай бұрын

@@mazpr2025 you are joking right? You just did it two comments ago. 😂😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

@Carlos-nr3rt 3 ай бұрын

Hyundai i30N guys in 6 speed manual love mine.

@magi115 2 ай бұрын

poor comparison. the CTR commpetes with the GTi manual and not the Golf R. both are front wheel drive and 6 speed manual

@JacesOwnWorld 3 ай бұрын

The Golf R is the clear winner in terms of price per performance in this matchup. Golf R is cheaper (low-$50k’s vs mid-to-high $60k’s+)(this is calculating real world pricing, not MSRP as everyone knows CTR’s don’t sell for MSRP), it’s faster, it has better tech, and it’s AWD.

@van_der_lindeDA 3 ай бұрын

I'm yet to see a proper review from distinguished car journalists stating the golf 8R is better...please send me a link

@2seep 3 ай бұрын

@@van_der_lindeDAsince when do car journalist actually review something properly? Who the hell relies on their reviews and opinions? Fwd is a terrible platform

@oldrustycars 3 ай бұрын

Not all dealers jack the price on the Type R. My local dealer sells them for full sticker, not a penny less or more. Civic forums can tell you where to shop.

@van_der_lindeDA 3 ай бұрын

@@2seep to say FWD is a terrible platform is true, but it's also true in saying u have never driven a type R

@van_der_lindeDA 3 ай бұрын

@2seep so top gear UK reviews cars on track/road and gives performance car of the year awards but they haven't reviewed it properly? Looks like an excuse

@michaelbsquire 3 ай бұрын

90k for a golf r is Australia is ridiculous

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

Sure, but it isn’t $90K

@michaelbsquire 3 ай бұрын

@@chasingcarssure is 80+ LCT and options just have a written quote. Also have a trade of 45k for my 7.5 Wolfsburg Apr stage 2 450+ Hp which I can't plug in to the 8 and there are no Wolfsburg edition which also sucks

@michaelbsquire 3 ай бұрын

Sorry 85k or 80k for a demo without LCT

@user-qh2us6lm2b 11 күн бұрын

Nice car Golf R

@deanboucher2067 3 ай бұрын

Shocked at prices

@jaisabai4155 3 ай бұрын

I saw the prices then departed 🤑🤑🤑

@LB83. 3 ай бұрын

I saw the ctr yesterday my god its wide

@johncollins392 16 сағат бұрын

Save a load of money & get a i 30 fastback n with a Celtic remap,314 bhp,440 Nm torque for £360!

@luigi7693 3 ай бұрын

Honda without discussion. TOP

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

" there's no other car that can challenge these two for the price" Lol yes there is , the i30n sedan. It's neck and neck with the type r on track for 20k less and probably more fun to drive than all of them

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

The i30 N doesn’t hang with either of these cars for handling or hardware.

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

@@chasingcars I would say the I30n sedan hangs with them for sure it's about 95% of the type r and certainly feels more balanced and playful than the golf r, better steering rack as well, plenty of reviews out there showing that , savagegeese one of them where they had professional TCR drivers track them a long with the GR corolla. Nearly every video on here will show you that head to head on track they're close. Throttlehouse had it finish quicker than the golf r and last generations type R and that was a manual which is slower than the DCT. If you're talking about the hatch than I'm with you but the sedan is considerably better. "Hardware" isn't everything. So to suggest nothing else can challenge them in the performance to price ratio is just rubbish really or you haven't driven it on track long enough.

@kienfung3045 3 ай бұрын

Civic Type R. No doubt

@jdmguy44 3 ай бұрын

The CTR is creaming all the best hot hatch awards these days in the press here the UK. Rightly so. Its an amazing car.

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

That's because you don't have the Elantra N there.

@jdmguy44 3 ай бұрын

@@mharro88 we have the I30 N which is the same car in a hatch body style.

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

@@jdmguy44 we also have the i30n hatch. They're different cars. The sedan is a completely new and superior, lighter platform. You're absolutely clueless.

@jdmguy44 3 ай бұрын

@@mharro88 Sorry looks like I've touched a nerve with a Hyundai fanboy. Your clueless if think a junky Hyundai is better than a Type R Honda! A CTR costs more for a reason.

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

@@jdmguy44 I never said it's better anywhere? Lol I said it's about 99% of what a CTR is for 18k less. I said Hyundai motorsport is more relevant than Honda Motorsport in 2024 and that's a fact.

@A861967 3 ай бұрын

The type R as a daily driver? It’s suspension is so stiff that after an hour drive you feel like your been beaten up by Mike Tyson 😂

@racer247 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, when he said they were about the same. I laughed, maybe the roads are much better where he lives. In the US, people are swapping modules with the ITS. 😂

@tommyzoo 3 ай бұрын

Simply not true. If you put it in Plus R then yes but normal and comfort modes are actually very comfortable.

@racer247 3 ай бұрын

@@tommyzoo Google " 2023 ctr fixing the annoying stiff ride " and watch. 😅🤣😂

@tommyzoo 3 ай бұрын

@@racer247 it’s ok. Having read numerous glowing road tests by world renowned drivers and journalists I’m happy with their opinion rather than the ‘google’ experts. Also, having spent time driving the FK8 and FL5 and having owned two of the former which has the stiffer ride, i can vouch for how supple the suspension is for a car that outhandles anything in its class

@A861967 3 ай бұрын

@@racer247 went for a test drive and even the Honda dealer looked at me after the test drive and said… Yea I know it’s a stiff ride 🤪 are you looking for a daily drive or a weekender😄

@dheeradjlachman9658 26 күн бұрын

Always❤ it wil be Honda the king of the HotHatches💪

@thegripmaster666 3 ай бұрын

👎 No mention of Hyundai i30 N which is $20k less than the Golf R

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

Prolly cos it was not in the test.

@jordan18291 3 ай бұрын

I don’t understand how you found the FL5 less exciting - golf R feels dynamically boring, although improved this generation. FL5 is like a live wire and much more entertaining (and faster) on track. It does have a playful chassis - if anything better than the FK8

@mdxmtt7656 3 ай бұрын

Type R 4ever

@bp8545 3 ай бұрын

Mk8R is the better car for me with much better tuning potential

@richieduck67 3 ай бұрын

No GR Corolla?

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

We've done a GR Corolla comparison: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gc5iqrScp6qXl6M.html

@nicke1370 3 ай бұрын

Comparitively average cars now costing as much as our parents bought a house for. Strange times. Hopefully the 2nd hand market calms down shortly.

@nocapproductions5471 3 ай бұрын

We are entering peak inflation, after a year or two everything will settle back to normal.

@madhunter6420 3 ай бұрын

@@nocapproductions5471u think so?

@psiturbo 3 ай бұрын

@@nocapproductions5471 it will not settle

@musiczkl98 3 ай бұрын

@@nocapproductions5471no it will not

@WES-GR4PES 3 ай бұрын

Which R-Rated Hatch Is Best? GR

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

I have a GR and an R. GR loses on practicality big time. But that’s all.

@WES-GR4PES 3 ай бұрын

@@gaycha6589 of course the GR loses practicality haha noting practical about a rally car lol

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

@@WES-GR4PESfor two persons, it’s ok as daily run around, and hatch space, even with 4wd, with seats down is quite good. but it doesn’t really like going slow pottering stuff, as it’s an eager puppy.

@richardhillback1489 3 ай бұрын

One that you can't rob

@Ace20001216 3 ай бұрын

Honda❤

@fredwalsh4108 3 ай бұрын

Keep your Honda for a start,VW if I had to choose

@lamsonnguyen6837 Ай бұрын

Honda ❤

@frostcold81 2 ай бұрын

Shouldn't it have been civic type r vs golf gti. Both fwd duh

@LoveLikeaHurricane 3 ай бұрын

golf r mechanics/electronics will wear out first Type R frame components will rust out first.

@racer247 3 ай бұрын

FWD = torque steer and wheel spin from a dig. No Thank You 😂

@MadAdventure919 3 ай бұрын

The Golf has better technology and with minimum modification you can unlock the beast.

@douglasshaver9940 3 ай бұрын

The Honda Civic type R all day right here Baby!!! 😂 LoL

@stephbarbershop2518 3 ай бұрын

Golf is a better daily

@pepsisummer8429 3 ай бұрын

typer has the looks golf r looks like a gulf ball

@jean-yvesroussel2746 3 ай бұрын

While i love the civic the golf r can do the 1/4 in around 12.2sec way faster than the civic. Still love the civic tho

@LJ-pf8qk 3 ай бұрын

Had previously owned Honda integra type R, Civic type R and Honda S2000 and now I own VW R and I can say it’s the biggest mistake I ever did to enter VW world. Such a poor quality and reliability compared to Hondas. Bought it brand new and so many things went wrong it’s a joke. Transfer case liking oil (replaced), water pump replaced, starter button replaced twice, seat electronics playing up, all this before car even hit 50000km, never trashed and never taken to track or drag racing. With Honda’s I never had any issues, just normal servicing and that’s it.

@LJ-pf8qk 3 ай бұрын

@@daniel.s8126 wouldn’t say rare, talked to lots of guys all have similar issues, apparently water pump is well known issue, in some countries VW even made recall in regards to issue but is OZ our government is too weak to make them do it.

@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын

Opposite story here. I have had 3 new Rs since 2014 without a single issue or failure, abd servicing has been reasonable with no replacements beyond brake pads and fluids in a total of 150,000 miles. Not had a CTR, although tempted, but have run 2 other Hondas over the years, also without failures. Am active on all the R Forums and their reputation is overall very good.

@chrisandshazza01 3 ай бұрын

For reliability I’d take the Honda all day everyday. I love the look of the VW, it’s a beautiful machine but I don’t trust the reliability of VW compared to the samurai perfection that is Honda.

@YakuzaR35 3 ай бұрын

Type R all the day

@hoomee7605 3 ай бұрын

Not those two. Throw in the A45S. 😂

@kevinklein1875 3 ай бұрын

Golf R all the way!!!! Waiting for my 2024 6 spd to be delivered!

@aarone8013 3 ай бұрын

Golf for me. The Civic I could never do given the styling alone. Its doing a bad job of trying to look like a transformer spaceship. (sorry - I fast forwarded to the end....!)

@van_der_lindeDA 3 ай бұрын

Then that golf was made for you

@Rog6765 3 ай бұрын

Golf R as a daily hands down. That’s the reality of most of us how we use our cars.

@ThrottleBody 3 ай бұрын

Not a chance. The Honda civic is the better car in standard form. VW have really dropped the ball over the last few years.

@speeddemon311 3 ай бұрын

Golf R by a long shot! Type R is so limited, especially in rain or snow it's useless and looks more like a kids car imo!!

@yooyoohi 3 ай бұрын

Golf R any day.

@CrystalNinja07 3 ай бұрын

Neither. i30 Sedan N. Best value performance car.

@thegripmaster666 3 ай бұрын

And costs $20k less than the Golf R

@mharro88 3 ай бұрын

And quicker than both of them

@darinevans7011 3 ай бұрын

Not even close. Golf R all the way. It's a straight beast. I've had mine for a year, and never once has someone tried to step to it. Others just know, but don't admit that it has some crazy performance. The thing is a pocket rocket.

@deebee68 Ай бұрын

If you raced the type R without the DSG, you cheated it and you know you did.

@deebee68 Ай бұрын

The Civic is not quicker then the type R with the DSG.

@rickc4459 3 ай бұрын

now at the prices of old m3's. sad

@datdudeinred 3 ай бұрын

There is no way a vw can even come close to a Honda.

@mountainhobo 3 ай бұрын

Are you on a race track? No? Then WTF are you cutting corners all the time?

@Laurie_H 3 ай бұрын

78k? 😂 for a vehicle that should cost 20k - 30k

@chasingcars 3 ай бұрын

20-30K? Totally unrealistic

@tezza8717 3 ай бұрын

vw reliabilty would be a problem.

@chrisparr7476 3 ай бұрын

So true. Civic is comparably bulletproof with K series engine and strong simple gearbox

@JacesOwnWorld 3 ай бұрын

@@chrisparr7476lol. How many k-series turbo cars do you know of lasting 200k+ miles reliably?

@van_der_lindeDA 3 ай бұрын

@@JacesOwnWorldyou tell us?

@Black_Magic_Pearl 3 ай бұрын

How would you know? These are all new cars and Honda just recently started turboing all their Honda civic models..... turbos increase your chance of failure due to increased pressure and that's why Hondas have been known to be reliable in the past. What are you gonna break with 120 ft/lbs of torque and 100hp 😂

@jacktan7106 3 ай бұрын

Owned a Golf R wagon Grid Ed. ...water pump & dsg issue..lost faith in VW backing their own car....Run, dun walk...FYI..the 1st dsg interval for new dsg is 8yrs/120k km which by the time most warranty would have ran out...my dsg leaked at 60k but vw claimed its wear n tear..car never been tracked..so much for vw's reliabity...so many years or making EA888s but could'nt make A water pump that doesn't leak after 3-4 yrs.