Did you buy your bike second hand or from new? Which would you consider for the next bike you buy?

6:57 What every aero bike needs, a way to turn your glasses into parachute.

OH MY DAYS, please send James on more trips so he gets a few more chances to look at a friggin MAP!!! That edit was glorious xD

I just tuned in after purchasing a 2012 Bianchi infinito. I could never afford the new version so I’m hoping you guys are on board with buying the best but older :) having said that I’m so freaking proud of my Bike and so much in love with it, and I can’t actually believe I actually own it, that Nothing anyone could say would make me regret buying my Bianchi 😍😍😍

Dudes @ GCN be like ``oh this bike is just like 8k`` Here i am buying a 500$ used Specialized Diverge and patting myself in the back

That Cervelo looked amazing.

Used 105 makes for a great entry into cyling

Cycle to Work is a game-changer for this whole debate. I've ridden my Bianchi 1885 (~£1,000 in 2006) into the ground, adapting it to compete in all sorts of challenges (e.g Ironman, Les Cingles) and now hugely excited to be building a new discounted F10 frame with Campag Chorus for sub 5k before a hefty discount courtesy of C2W.

I started cycling during the pandemic and picked up a 2011 Specialized Tarmac SL2 105 Comp! Love shopping second hand.

That cut showing the difference of where the Philippines and the Caribbeans was at 15:33 Oh dear, that was too funny XD

I'm for an expensive old bike (not that old... 4 to 7 years) You can upgrade it like change weels or tires depending on your training... I have a beautiful 2013 Scott CR1 team(black, green and white), a tylish and light bike. The last upgrade i did is a Spinergy carbon weels... light, strong and beautiful. I'm still satisfied of my 105 group set.

Used bike all the way. Let someone else spend 7-10k on a bike ride it for 500miles while I laugh all the way to pick it up for £1800

We’re starting to see bikes with ‘current’ trends coming round in the second hand market (discs, elec shifting, wider/deeper wheels, aero etc.)...you can definitely get a lot more for £1500-£2000 used than you can at the over inflated new prices!

These two are a classic pair! More Stan & Ollie, than Ollie & Hank! They crack me up!!!

13:57. "His stem stopped taking Viagra." Should be nominated for the quote of the week!

“Re-sprayed it with a spray” love that, Hank

twice now I've picked up bikes from professional teams. The bikes were maintained by team mechanics to keep them in top shape, were part of a quiver rather than a 'daily driver', and come with some motivating mojo. My first of these two was a Battaglin I received directly from the hands of Giovanni Battaglin in 1984 (it had been used by Alfredo Chinetti in the '84 Giro). The next one is contemporary, having been ridden by Jacob Rathe on the Jelly Belly team, an Argon 18 Nitrogen. Both bikes were picked up for incredible deals, and on both I left the old names on the top tube to celebrate their provenance. I've had plenty of bikes, many purchased new, but these two will always be special.

The custom painted Cervelo R5 is f%*king stunning!! 😮😮

I like to store my sunglasses on my face.

more a valid question around the 1000 pound point I guess. You get starter beginner aluminum kit (but a proper good beginner bike though) for that, or a second hand with a higher level of groupsets or even carbon frames and such.

Love your energy Hank!!!!👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

This edit was brilliant. Someone different at work here. Its like Taika Waititi from thor ragnarok directed it and said we need ollie obviously but we need someone who is accidentally very funny to balance ollies perfect comedic timing.... bloody hilarious. Please let me know if there were different people making this video.

I bought my road bike second hand from Ebay, a 2012 Kuota KOM evo, SRAM red 10 speed, in 2014. This cost £1300 and came with 2 sets of wheels: 50mm carbon spinergy clinchers and a set of fulcrum racing 5 training wheels. The previous owner had also upgraded the handlebars to carbon specialised ones which retailed at £195 at the time. Absolute bargain and its still going strong today!

I'd definately recommend second hand. My dad bought a bianchi impulso disc with a 105 groupset for 450 which had done a London the brighton ride once. Similarly I bought a bianchi pista sei giorni that had never been ridden outside for 400. Bargains are there to be had for sure. However. The warranty is definately worth considering

Most track frames come without bottle bosses. That bike vault fixie has an aero down tube so the only spot for those clamp-on bottle cages is where they are. I use a tri-style dual bottle mount under the saddle on mine and it's awesome!!!!!! Triathletes don't ride track bikes.

Ollie and James work so well together!

Bought mine from a bike shop that rents bikes... got a great deal used because it had been rented a few times.

Just bought a Bianchi Via Nirone 7 105 for £300 on Gumtree. perfect condition.

17:54 OMG that Cervelo is gorgeous!

Great piece of tech, the sunglass thingy. Now you can buy very heavy classes and use them as a triathlon bar!

Was a no brainer here atleast; My budget was originally 1400£ or so on a new bike but for that price one basically got a bare minimum 9kg+ bike. Got my bike used (Nakamura 6.0), weighs just under 7kg, carbon frame/fork, and it was barely used. Got it for 550£... Complete no brainer. Previous owner said he used it only on 6-9 trips in total since he had it from august 2013, and sure enough, according to the bike computer it was 97km. Owner before that used it apparently even less. Been riding for a month now, super happy with it. Changed the tires and tubes just in case due to age but that was a very small investment. So i personally highly recommend going for used one, but be patient and try to find one that has been used little or has been taken good care of.

Option 3. New bike but last year's model your LBS needs to sell. I've saved a ton most recently on a Tarmac disc.

"Mclarens often appreciate" oh Mr Bridgewood how wrong you are 😢

If I'm buying a used bike, one critical thing I would require of the seller is the original receipt, or alternative proof that he is the original owner as I do not want a single cent of my money to go towards the stolen bike market.

I just got a 2017 -S-Works Tarmac (Team Estana Edition) -Sram Red eTap (11 speed) -Brand new Zipp 404 (less than 100 miles) -Vision Metron aero bars. All for $4200

Loved the South African accent, you made us proud 😂👍🏼🇿🇦

After building my bike fully custom myself, I say have a nice one and a ragger, my nice bike is a surly steamroller, which I use a lot more, short distance and easy to maintain especially over winter, if something dies it’s easy to either repair or replace, loads cheaper too

Best GCN tech video I've watched! Keep it up!

Bought a used but PRISTINE Orbea Onix for $600 that came with SRAM Rival groupset. Happy!!

Olly's very stern "don't ring the bell" got to me, thanks mate.

In my defence for the seatpost bottle cage, I have a rear light there with a clear bidon that glows red!

Ollie absolutely nailing the Souff Effriken accent 😆

First road bike was a trek 1.5 2012, tiagra and alloy frame new to see if road biking was for me. 2017 bought an ex hire merida scultura 5000 for $800 less than new, hardly used. For peace of mind, unscrewed every bolt, cleaned and retorqued. Good as new.

Nantes is pronounced 'naugh-nt' and that bike was a supernice. Even the bell knew it, it clearly attempted a ring.

Great job Mike! Bike 🚴🏻‍♂️looks awesome! 🤜🏻

The listed price for used bikes are usually aspirational. Usually the real price you can get the bike is between 10-50% lower than the list price.

13:58 - "His stem has stopped takin' Viagra as well", HAHAHAHAHA! Now that's the type of one-liners I subscribed for! Top content, lads!😊👍

Better off with end of season new bike if you can find the size you want. Massive savings to be had from retailers. 2nd hand for a winter bike

I'd say it depends on your budget but you should buy used and certain parts new if you have the money. I purchased my frameset new because it was half price and everything else was used except tyres, inner tubes, bar tape, chain. You should spend quite a bit of time searching and waiting for the parts to come up for sale with little wear on them but for very cheap, or cosmetic marks which can easily be touched up by yourself. If you spend your money properly you will end up with an almost brand new bike for half the price.

Yeah used all the way.I have, however, picked up a couple of brand new framesets but they were on sale. But i dont think i could ever justify the price tag of a brand new complete bike. Plus i like putting together my own bikes

GCN always seems to gravitate towards the more pricey end of the market. Helpful info for sure but a lot of it couldn't apply to me

I assemble all my bikes and it usually saves me around $2000 (US) as opposed to buying a fully spec'ed out bike from a bike shop. Superbike for mid-tier pricing, built to my personal needs . The only downside is if a component needs replacing under warranty, you have to deal with contacting manufacturers as opposed to a bike shop doing the work for you.

No mention of buying last season’s model? I got my Cannondale in late 2014 when the 2015 models had just hit the showroom. Rrp $1500, I paid $1100. Whoever did the Philippines/Caribbean graphic deserves a raise.

Nicely done lads!

Ah... that clip for glasses that cost soooo much does not convince me at all, sorry Alberto C. One road bump and there goes a nice pair of sun glasses!!

Still pilot an oldschool Giant tcr team. Rolf wheels, all shimano ultegra, speedplay, and have always kept her clean. She’s a head turner still.

lol @ "I like the energy, but we need to agree first..."

The route I took was a new bike that in their clearance inventory. I was able to upgrade to a 2018 Roubaix expert di2 for for 50% off the list price. It is a major upgrade from my trek domane al3

I recently bought last years model of the Giant Propel, exactly the same spec as this years only different (better) colour scheme and saved £600!

It's nice to know my geography isn't as bad as I first thought. At least I only thought Tuscany was in Spain. The other side of the Mediterranean sea. Not the other side of the plant. Thanks Hank for showing me, my geography isn't that bad after all.

Used all the way just make sure you do a good walk around or even take to a shop for hi end bike

I bought my bike new because I am a newbie and wanted to get a proper fitting bike and customer service. Now I still have to wait till mid of august. It’s a Rose backroad.

This was a brilliant episode lads. I cudnt stop laughing at Ollie going Akka at the 3d bike render... turned the Yorkshire up to 11! 😂😂

This episode was jokes from start to finish, funny!

That 3D rendering deserved a super nice. As a 3D artist myself, I know how much effort goes into modelling that, and on top of that it was a custom design! I think you should definitely allow this sort of submission, I doubt you’ll be getting vast numbers of them.

Answering the big questions.. marvellous Olly.. with a stylee new mini tash.. Nice one Hank..

Managed to get myself a 2014 S Works Venge with Campy Record, S Works Carbon Crank and Tuff Carbon wheels with Chris King R45 Hubs for just 1500 pounds, with all the papers Second hand any day man

What other Endurance Bikes should I be looking at apart from Cube Agree C62, Giant Defy, Cannondale Synapse, Canyon Endurace CF, Specialized Roubaix. Will probably go for Ultegra Carbon wanting to pay around £2500. I'm looking at second hand too.

Lots of nice bikes that very few people can afford.

Comedy gold moment!!!! Long may it be quoted and mentioned over the years to come.

Second hand - I have a LOOK 695, 585 Pro Team and 481SL (Laurent Jalabert Edition) all in great condition. The three have cost me way, way less than what a Company Director paid for the 695 new to do two charity rides... more money than sense some people.

Nothing's wrong with used, but i was very particular that I wanted quality STEEL road/touring, disk brakes, and Shimano shifters. Because I was specific, I bought new. 2017 Kona Wheelhouse.

Bought bran new cube agree sl carbon2019. 400 miles later...snapped carbon frame😌 seat tube.

True GCN gold!!!! Talk about North and South divide Hilarious!!! Jame's Education wasted Philippines/Caribbean lol - James Bino's and bargains at £8.5k no wonder he lives in Poldark's house :)) Love him!!!. Ollie S.African accent priceless this is the Ant and Dec of KZfaq more please.

Ahhh - shouldn’t have used McLaren as an example of value retention. They drop like rocks on resale because of quality issues.

At 18:59 this is a Csepel, a fairly old Hungarian bike company"s frame. It used to be big before the WV, then not so good during communism, but now again are coming up in the mid-range bike offerings.

What about the aspect of insurance. I know you can get insurance on a new bike from a dealer (as I have done in the past) but is it possible to get some for a used bike? Because as you quite rightly say in this video I can invest in a much higher spec bike second hand!

that google earth bit was pure comedy gold. What a double act!

5 years ago I bought my first road bike from local bike shop, I had low budget for the bike because I had to get everything else (clothers, helmet, etc.) So my bike was like 700 Ł. Now I know I love cycling and I will be riding in the future so I want to get something better for the next season. I think I don't want to spend much more than 1k so I will look for 1-3 years old higher spec bike. Can't wait for what I will find :)

Hi I want to start cycling on the road but my finance is limited what would be anyone's preferences or advice for me to buy the first time bike for up to 300 pounds??

I picked up a Look 585 and put my old Record 10 speed group on it. It is 16 lbs for XL size shorty. And this is with SuperTeam 50 mm deep wheels on it. Actually, if is so much lighter than my Trek Emonda with Di2 on it that it jumps around on the road enough more that I will have to get used to it. I did pick up a Trek HiFi with 29" wheels on it. The big bucks buyer had bought it, taken it home, rode across the street in front of his house, hit the curb and fallen down and never rode again. I got it for half price. But it turned out I didn't like full suspension. So I sold it at a profit.

Shoutout from the Philippines. That realistic 3D bike is really well-made ^^

Nooo, you destroy your aerodynamic by holding sunglasses like that xD

Hi, to what degree are power readings affected by smoothing and torque roofs? I'm using an FSA Powerbox with a Garmin Edge, and find the peak and 5 second power readings to be mysteriously low (I'm btw a high torque/low cadence rider - my preferred cadence is only 40-50).

Exotica is always a good way to go. About 5 years ago I bought a Dimar Lloyd ..... yep you'll never have heard of it. It was a collaboration with Dave Lloyd the Lancashire coach and an unknown frame builder built to Dave's spec. Super Record, 800g frame, 3T top of the range post and bars, ultralite stem, Roval Alpanista wheels coming in at 5.9kg. £1,700. Boooom. Sadly I smashed the frame in a crash. So replaced it with a brand new only used in a photo shop Sarto frame for £900. Booom.

I just bought a used simplon nexio ultegra 2016 + 2 years warranty in nearly mint condition for 1200 euro. Second hand!

Not sure those Canyons are really comparable - SLX vs SL frame. I think its always better to buy the top frame from a resale point of view. Also the frame and gear set combined will be significantly heavier than the SLX/Dura Ace.

Hey #askgcntech! This is a long one, but it’s complex and I wanted to get in all the relevant info. TL/DR version: I just installed a new rear derailleur - what might be causing my chain have started regularly dropping when I’m hammering in a big gear? Complete version: I have an old standby 2003 Bianchi Campione (steel frame) on which I have gradually replaced most of the components from the original Mirage/Veloce mix. I have kept it 9-speed, though, largely because of the difficulty of keeping Ultra-Shift (and the ability to shift multiple cogs up and down) without springing for Chorus or Record. Up until recently, the bike has had 9-speed Mirage Ergopower levers, 9-speed Mirage rear derailleur, 9-speed Veloce 13-26 cassette, a 10-speed Centaur front derailleur, 9-speed SRAM chain, and a 10-speed 50/34 Centaur compact crankset. I just replaced (for admittedly cosmetic reasons) the 9-speed Mirage rear derailleur with a 10-speed Veloce unit, thinking all would be well because (as I understand it) the geometry and cable pull of Campy 9- and 10-speed rear derailleur is the same. Also, I had never had any real issues with my prior mixing of 9- and 10-speed components. Unfortunately, since installing the new rear derailleur, I have had an awful problem arise. When putting down high (for me) power in the big ring and low down on the cassette, the chain has been skipping and often dropping off the outside of the chainring. It happens when I am at around 5-o’clock on the downstroke on the right crank when I am out of the saddle either sprinting or climbing, generally when I am also pulling up on the left pedal, and is truly terrifying. You can see a slow motion video of it here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ba5haM10mZy6gX0.html. I have been troubleshooting this issue extensively - rear derailleur hanger alignment, rear derailleur b-tension adjustment, checking the limit screws of the front derailleur, indexing adjustment, checking chain length (it has one full link overlap when run through the large-large combination clear of the rear derailleur), checked the chain for wear (both it and the cassette were replaced a year ago), even removing the front derailleur entirely to see if that helps. No matter what I have done, the chain skipping/dropping keeps occurring (needless to say, the process of repeatedly checking this, and feeling the crank let out while I’m laying it down, is not pleasant!). I did see that the big chainring seems very slightly out of true, but by only a fraction of a millimeter. Also, I would note that I am fitter than I probably ever have been, so I think I am experiencing more frame flex when pedaling hard than I have in the past. Lastly, I have noticed significantly more chain slap when going over rough patches of tarmac since putting on the new derailleur, which leads me to think the chain dropping issue may be due to a combination of too loose chain tension coupled with frame flex. What do you think, and any suggested remedies?

Should you buy one top line bike or two mid bikes or even three for the same $

So, Michelton-Scott is now riding on Tarmacs too?

guys every day second hand , just bought a 2012 tcr advanced pro 0 with campagnolo record ...... for 800euro with pedale ( keo blade carbon ) and last year i bought a mondraker chrono pro sl 2015 with 100km on it for half the price

Title: "Cheap new bike or a used bike with higher spec?" Content: go through two examples involving top end componentry and electronic shifting before going near a new bike with 105 groupset. Great episode beyond the naming but looking at cheap new bikes and similarly priced used bikes would actually be helpful for those of us who can't afford or justify a £2000 bike, let alone an £8000 Pinarello.

Great show as ever. In five years time I think GCN will be just one hour of Bike Vault seven days a week. And people will love it! ps anyone else getting sick of that Oakley advert?

I have noticed something interesting on team ineos bikes: It seems that they are using lighther versions of the Dogma F12 on the climbing Stages with no paint in comparrisson to the flat stages. Is this also common among other teams ? ( noticed on bernals bike in the tour de suisse)

Definitely the next bike i buy will be either new and in or under £1000 range with some slight breathing room But id considering a recently bought unwanted higher spec bike depends on price I personally want a roadbike i have a hardtail and love my hardtail but I’ve always wanted to get into road biking that way i can do more miles Im not looking for an insanely expensive bike ill be happy with a new £1000 that i can upgrade if i wish

I was going to give you a thumbs up (super nice) but the Philippines in the Caribbean - Tip for future episodes if you want a super nice, check your geography _(Just kidding, you got a TU) :-)_

The way that works for me seems to be a mixture of OCD and insomnia. scan constantly and have your money and phone nearby. I just bought a like new Giant Defy full carbon for $150.. original price $1850. I'm feeling pretty happy at this minute.

Hey, I just had my first road bike accident a little hour ago. Now I've also tried that, you can say :p. My bike took a bit damage though, but I don't know who should pay, I didn't get the other guy who drove out in mes number or name..

Snagged myself a s works tarmac SL5 with full Ultegra R8000 mechanical for $1300 pounds when it would have cost over $3000 brand new. Used market all the way for me!

after building a few bikes my self, I rather a second hand one. When you buy a new bike, you get all these rubbish oem products like stems, bars, saddles, wheels, spacers, that eventually end in storage, giving away or having to sell them. Usually I aways end up upgrading them to my preference.