CHEAP VS EXPENSIVE POLARIZER FILTER TEST (WITH SAMPLE IMAGES)

Рет қаралды 58,829

Күн бұрын

I TEST A CHEAP AMAZON BASICS POLARIZER FILTER AGAINST A MORE EXPENSIVE HOYA VERSION. CAN YOU TEL THE DIFFERENCE?
#polarizer, #polariser, #photography
BUY THESE POLARIZERS
HOYA IN US STORE - amzn.to/3intQgy
AMAZON BASICS IN US STORE - amzn.to/3NachyS
HOYA IN UK STORE - amzn.to/3wnbpRt
AMAZON BASICS IN UK STORE - amzn.to/36wXA7Y
Please note, prices shown on the video were correct on the date of filming
📺 WATCH MY FLASH DIFFUSERS TEST - • FLASH DIFFUSERS - whic...
📺 FLASH MY DIFFUSERS OUTDOOR TEST - • FLASH DIFFUSERS OUTDOO...
PHOTOGRAPHY T-SHIRTS NOW IN MY MERCH STORE AT rileyphotos.redbubble.com. 👕
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 MY U.S. AMAZON PHOTOGRAPHY STORE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
www.amazon.co.uk/shop/rileyph...
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 MY U.K. AMAZON PHOTOGRAPHY STORE 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
www.amazon.co.uk/shop/rileyph...
If you'd like to support the channel, feel free to browse the links from my affiliate partners, you don't have to purchase, but if you do, I may get small commission at no cost to you, because as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases
If you enjoy the channel and would like to support, feel free to buy me a coffee. www.buymeacoffee.com/rileyphotos
IF YOU'D LIKE TO TRY OUT MY EDITING CHOICES FOR YOURSELF
I USE LENO EDITING EFFECTS - lenofx.com/?ref=rileyphotos - be sure to get an extra 5% discount by using the coupon code RILEYPHOTOS
I RECOMEND ENVATO FOR MUSIC & STOCK IMAGES - 1.envato.market/ZdNn9X
ADOBE FOR PHOTO EDITING - FREE Photoshop trial available - clkuk.tradedoubler.com/click?p...
✅ Business enquiries and bookings can be made through my website at www.rileyphotos.co.uk

Пікірлер: 99

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 2 жыл бұрын

This was very brave of you. The subject of cheap vs expensive can be extremely polarising! 😂💀

@rileyphotos 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, love that comment 👏👏👏

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 2 жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos Thanks! 😂🤣

@omphileneo Жыл бұрын

Haha. Fantastic.

@jamesraykenney Ай бұрын

Ohhh, that was so very, VERY bad... Which means it was so good!

@auxsom 6 ай бұрын

TY for this. Gonna go with the HOYA for now.

@Michaelajacksonfilms 2 жыл бұрын

I use the cheap CPL's as "lens" shoot thru run and gun caps. ESPECIALLY since actual lens caps do not seal or even "cap". The cheap ons have a hue so they are only good for snapshops.

@sushi8204 Жыл бұрын

Here is the secret for you. Get Kenko. Both Hoya and Kenko are made at the same factory from the same glass.

@jesuschrist2284 7 ай бұрын

They make nice coffee too

@evernam993m8 2 ай бұрын

Yes, hoya has more labour cost and brand value.

@ianmarasigan Жыл бұрын

Interesting to see how cheaper polarizer hold up. Would have nice to have a flare comparison as well. Thanks for the video

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Good point about the flare test, I’ll include that in future videos 👍🏻 Thanks for watching Ian , much appreciated 👏📷😀

@jensgaethje8555 Жыл бұрын

nice little straightforward comparison 👍

@jason.fenstermaker 5 ай бұрын

This is a really helpful preview thank you Riley!

@rileyphotos 5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@erickjuarez7630 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Thanks!!

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Thanks Erick, I appreciate you saying that 👍🏻

@janedagger Ай бұрын

Thank you !!! I learned a LOT !

@rileyphotos Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@alexandrucristian289 Жыл бұрын

I've always used Kenko CPL and UV, good prices, kinda like amazon basics, but i did notice the difference between with and without and not comparing UV with UV or CPL with CPL. Is that without, my pictures when zoomed at 100%, were more cleaner and nicer, not so much noisy kinda like. So i would say, if you have a nice expensive good quality glass like Nikkor 24-70mm for FX cameras, don't ruin the quality with a cheap filter, the image will be a bit grainy and it's a shame, especially if you are a perfectionist (like me) and you want absolutely quality.

@calebplumleeoutdoors 5 ай бұрын

A much bigger difference will be seen when shooting in situations where there is glare on the lens itself. The good coatings do help keep the lens reflections/refraction effects down and improve contrast in those scenarios. I used to be "team budget" with polarizers, but have changed my stance now.

@MaxPhotoGraphic Жыл бұрын

Thanx 4 this content, I would increase the middles in the forrest, but this is personal and the beauty of photo is that is just milions of points of view and all of them are right. do you know other CPL that have no chromatic issues? Thanx mate, Max

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Absolutely I’m with you 100%, photography means something different to everyone. That’s what makes it so beautiful 🤩 sorry I don’t have any other CPL to recommend but thank you for watching 👏

@TinusTegenlicht 6 ай бұрын

I have 6 different ones, a Hoya, Soligor, B&W, Kenko, Tiffen and Vivitar. All other diameters, so it is hard to compare which is best.

@RynaxAlien Жыл бұрын

Cheaper one is multicoated?

@jbennett3578 Жыл бұрын

It's always the same, isn't it? You can get pretty good quality fairly cheap, but the cost starts rising quickly when you try to take those final steps toward perfection. Personally, I stick with cheap until I start noticing its limitations. Nice comparison and some interesting and useful results. Liked and subbed, because I'm a real gentleman that way. 😇

@alexandrucristian289 Жыл бұрын

I do the same. That's why i decided to level-up my camera and lens when i was getting frustrated by my toy camera and image quality. I wanted more power ! :))

@dobbsgraphica4988 6 ай бұрын

Law of diminishing returns. Double the price does not equal double the quality. When you're starting out it's horses for courses. You wouldn't put a hundred dollar filter on a cheap consumer grade lens. Then if you stick with photography and acquire some premium glass, get premium filters to suit. After all, you wouldn't buy a Ferrari, then put budget tyres on it...

@ahamedriyaz8657 Жыл бұрын

appreciate the content and this helped me make my decision. thank u. Im curious why u didnt use either of these polarisers for your talking head shotsn :D

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

It’s a fair cop guvnor, you got me bang to rights so you av If I hold them up in the shot, then I would have needed to buy another for the camera and I’m just too stingy 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it 👍🏻

@ahamedriyaz8657 Жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos haha cheers. The reflections on your glasses were slightly distracting in your out door shot where you give the conclusive thoughts.😄

@jn3750 8 ай бұрын

vs. B+W Nano Master? Big difference?

@marcp.1752 8 ай бұрын

My Polfilters are from Hoya (HD), Zeiss & Contax, B+W. Never had issues, and i don't buy cheap cr@p for my lenses.

@Teeb2023 Күн бұрын

4:10 Hoya vs 4:40 Amazon + colour correction might have fixed the warm tones, but it replaced them with a magenta hue on the trees.

@gac231 24 күн бұрын

Nice test. Maybe a comparison of flaring, glaring and diffusion (contrast reduction) is useful. There should be a bright light somewhere in the frame. This is the hard part and where design and more expensive manufacturing should be visible. In addition to mechanical build quality.

@petemulhearn7787 11 ай бұрын

The only problem I've had with cheap filters of all types, on many different cameras and lenses, is that the cheap ones have flimsy frames which can bind to the lens and be difficult to remove. Many years ago I bought a set of plastic filter wrenches which solved the problem and now live permanently in my camera bag.

@rileyphotos 11 ай бұрын

That’s good advice Pete, the cheap filter did have what seemed like a cheaper metal screw thread, and like you, I struggled a couple of times to get it off. I’ll have to find one of those filter wrenches. Thank you 😊

@bourbon_sketcher 6 ай бұрын

Thick elastic band placed around stuck filters is supposed to work too

@jimkok1957 19 күн бұрын

@@petemulhearn7787 I experienced the same thing.

@andymacdougall4221 7 күн бұрын

Cheap ones are made of aluminium. Good ones are made of brass which doesn't bind. Same for step up rings.

@gregfeeler6910 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this test. However, I draw the opposite conclusion you do. Here we are with a big, big investment in cameras and lenses but look to save just a wee bit of money on the filter that will determine much of the resulting image quality. My criteria is that an accessory improve my photos and not make more work in post correcting it's defaults. So, I would go for the Hoya (or other high quality) polarizer every time. But, again, thanks for the excellent and useful video!

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Hi Greg, thanks for your comments, we appear to be singing from the same hymn sheet. My conclusion in the video said “if image quality is important to you then the Hoya should be your base level, everything from Hoya upwards should be what you need”. To clarify I would recommend the cheap filter for those starting out or on a tight budget. Thanks for watching, and of course for optimal quality, should we be using a filter at all? Well that’s another question, I’ve done a video about that one 😁 thanks for watching Greg, I really appreciate it 👍🏻

@gregfeeler6910 Жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos I guess I missed your statement about the Hoya as a base level, so we do agree there. As to filter or not to filter, now that's the stuff that LONG conversations are made of. Thank you.

@tom1986ca 4 ай бұрын

While not extremely critical with a polarizer, something like a 10-stop ND can have a pretty big effect on color cast and overall quality. I've switched from B+W to Breakthrough Photography for both of these on my main camera and I'm really happy with the quality. I'm considering trying out the magnetic K&F set for my small camera as this would be so much easier for stacking and retaining the correct angle on my CPL. If I really like it, I might consider a more high end magnetic set for my main camera after I research the quality of the brands that offer magnetic filters.

@rileyphotos 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like you gonna find the perfect set up, let us know how you get on Tom 👍🏻

@jamesraykenney Ай бұрын

The entire reason we had to switch to circular polarizers is because digital cameras' sensors do not react well to polarized light, so I kind of wander if the reason some of the polarizers have a color shift is because they are not as good at depolarizing the light at the back of the filter, and the camera sensor is reacting to the partially polarized light... If would be interesting to test them on a film camera, where that does not matter, and see if the color shift still occurs... I just realized that another way to test this would be to test if the color balance shifts when the polarizes is rotated... I know the reflections would change, but does the overall color change as well... If it does, that would indicate that it is probably the depolarization part of the filter that is causing the problem...

@rileyphotos Ай бұрын

That’s a really good point James, because the filters don’t seem to have any colour variations in the hand, so something else is producing that colour shift?

@tcoiler Жыл бұрын

Is the warmth of the Amazon correctable with white balance?

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Yes chip, you could carry a white card and do a manual white balance before taking the pic, or a two second easy post production tweek, just filter it out in the edit. Either way would work 👍🏻

@tcoiler Жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos Thanks!

@MajorTendonitis 10 ай бұрын

In western Canada for some reason I can’t even find a 77mm Hoya . Seems like the Camera Store in Calgary has gone with Photo republic, which I’ve never heard of

@suspiciousstew1169 4 ай бұрын

Damn, haven’t tested mine yet, but I recently got a 77mm Tiffen cpl for $30 usd which I’m testing out tomorrow when I go to Toronto to see extended family. Hopefully it’s good enough for my nikkor 24-70 Got a 52mm hoya pl-cir that was bundled with a vintage lens, so I might 3d print a step-up ring for some of my cheaper lenses

@Boss80gb 9 ай бұрын

I'm absolutely SHOCKED!Wow a cheapy Amazon giving a very good Hoya a run for the money??I've looked at some amz basics,BUT was scared to waste the money 😆Now Thanks to you,I may go back an take a 2nd look mate!Post editing pics would definitely help if the colors aren't to my liking....Great video& excellent information! Stay creative kind sir.....

@rileyphotos 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@jimkok1957 20 күн бұрын

Do you still use the lens hood?

@rileyphotos 19 күн бұрын

I use a lens hood as often as possible, with wide lenses it’s a bit easier but with longer lenses I do sometimes take the hood off otherwise I can’t turn the filter. There is usually a stipple effect on the ring so a fingernail is enough to turn most, but it’s whatever works for you. 👍🏻

@josemanuel2244 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I was looking at the Hoya filter and they have a circular and a linear . What's your opinion which with more suitable for a mirroles Camara? Thanks for the review.

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Hi Jose, thanks for watching my video and for your question. In short, linear filters are not so good with auto focus so the filter companies made circular ones with are not affected by AF. If you have a mirrorless it will be AF so I’d recommend the circular polariser. Hope that helps. Cheers Phil

@chrisogrady28 Жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos This answer is incorrect. Linear only effects off-sensor auto focus. As mirrorless cameras use on-sensor AF you can use linear no problem, in fact you get better light transmission as there isn't the extra circular plate in there. These days though it's hard to fins linear filters, even though they are more suited for mirrorless cameras.

@JimH_4647 Жыл бұрын

A follow up test would be to compare the circular Hoya vs a Linear Polarizer on a mirrorless camera. A mirrorless camera does not need a circular polarizing filter. Only a DSLR needs that circular filter.

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Great idea Jim, thank you 👍🏻

@mjsbiggestfan1997 Жыл бұрын

I have a Sony A7R IV, which is a mirrorless camera, and I use a CPL filter all the time for my car photography!

@ThatWasSketchyy Жыл бұрын

@@mjsbiggestfan1997 what cpl do you use?

@jaybird6262 Жыл бұрын

Nice comparison, thanks - ordered via link 🙏

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jay, I really appreciate that 👍🏻😊📷

@KiR_3d Жыл бұрын

4:38 - you've got "the same" Hoya's sky look... and a noticeable rose tone on trees!

@qwell2006 11 ай бұрын

Trees look pink

@chrisogrady28 Жыл бұрын

FYI, the Hoya is still low end. a B+W master is triple the price of it

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

Yes, I should buy a top end filter and do a cheap Vs extortionate version 🤣🤣🤣

@chrisogrady28 Жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos I just bought a B+W 'basic' that was £90 and I feel insulted reading the description of it where they say it's for beginners haha. The Germans just label things coldly, the basic, and the master. Difference is that the master has higher light transmission at the cost of less maximum polarisation, so the basic is better for my use case of window reflections. It would be nice to see these high end ones compared to the Hoyas but no one's done it.

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

I may be confused here Chris, but I'm reading that they have higher light transmission and less polarisation. So it just stops less light but polarises less too. And they charge more money for it? More money for doing less? Great work if you can get it. I'll email some companies and see if they'll send a review model, I'd love to do a video on one. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated

@chrisogrady28 Жыл бұрын

@@rileyphotos yep that's right, more money for less polarisation haha

@sentbycyberliferk800 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisogrady28 well if it's harder to do it, less is more then?

@snowhite1qazse4 11 ай бұрын

I think the price of hoya comes from the quality multi coating of the glass... The polerizing effect are cheap to produce but not the coating, that's why you get the warmer tone and tint

@rileyphotos 11 ай бұрын

Oh that’s interesting, I didn’t realise that, thanks for sharing. I did wonder what the price difference was down to in the production process. Thank you 👏

@ferretace 9 ай бұрын

I got to say when I clicked the video I was expecting the cheap filter to have bad color shifting (like green) but it turns out it didn't make a noticeable difference on the image to me. Especially not a $60 difference.

@rileyphotos 9 ай бұрын

I didn’t expect anything so cheap to be any good either, I was surprised. I was sure the image would be soft but no, just a slight colour change. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

@Blah-blah-sure 7 ай бұрын

To me, any filter that protects the lens. Is worth it

@rileyphotos 7 ай бұрын

Here here 👏

@lobanrahmantonoy4130 4 ай бұрын

The cheap filter is a nightmare to unscrew. After rotating the the polarizing circle couple of times, the main thread becomes stuck on the lens.

@rileyphotos 4 ай бұрын

Yeah I think that’s where the savings are made, I had a few ‘am I ever going to get this off the lens’ moments. TBF, I’ve had that with more expensive ones too over the years, usually after they got a little warm and the metal threads expanded

@blablah538 8 ай бұрын

4:45 Those "corrected" trees don't look waaaay more purple to you? Side by side that shit

@Zaqfalcon 3 ай бұрын

Interesting that in your comparison the Hoya is the 'expensive' 'high quality' CPL, when there are quite a number of much more expensive ones available; that are an utter waste of money imo.

@rileyphotos 3 ай бұрын

Great point! I chose a ‘relatively’ expensive Hoya in that that you could buy 5 Amazon Basics’ for less than the price of the Hoya. I did think about going ultra expensive but firstly I thought anyone considering the Basics wouldn’t be in the market for a £300 filter, and secondly I would have to buy it 🤣

@AlanTiller 11 ай бұрын

Sorry I feel your far to biased towards the hoya filter rather than the Amazon basics.

@rileyphotos 11 ай бұрын

Hi Alan, I bought them both and so no third party put any pressure on me, there was no bias, just my opinion, but others may view the images and prefer the other one, that’s why I included them. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

@AlexandarHullRichter 13 күн бұрын

I noticed a couple of things, and it could just be down to how you are using the camera, but the two things I saw are: The Hoya filter would darken the entire sky when you were using it on the sky, and the Amazon filter only darkened part of it. That could just be an adjustment issue as far as where you rotated the filter, but it looked to me as if the Amazon filter had a narrower polarization that would not darken as much of the sky. The pictures also looked noticeably sharper with the Hoya filter. That could just be down to the Highlight detail you were mentioning, but I thought it was details at most light levels that were a bit sharper with the Hoya filter.

@ccjh0806 8 ай бұрын

LOL that WARM TINT on the AMAZON is just unusable

@rileyphotos 8 ай бұрын

Yes you’re right there, it’s a definite warm tint isn’t it, but of course, if you’re using a digital camera then not a problem, put the filter on, point the camera at something white and do a manual white balance. Sorted 😀 now what to spend the extra cash on 😁😁😁

@user-gq9hy8ys6g 2 ай бұрын

I really see no difference. If you are not going to make prints, it doesn't matter. Nobody is going to spend time look at the picture detail, especially when you just share it on social media. 🤣

@rileyphotos 2 ай бұрын

I’m with you on this, every one of my lenses has a filter. Yes, if you are pixel peeping 800%, you can see a tiny difference. But on a screen or at 300dpi. No chance; the reward for risking your front element every day is simply not worth it. 👍🏻

@thezanzibarbarian5729 Жыл бұрын

It's one thing to say that they Hoya is £70 and the Amazon one is a little under £13. But when you can adjust the Amazon filtered pics with Photoshop, you have to take into consideration the cost of Photoshop which is anywhere from £30 to £50 depending on which Photoshop you get. So that places the Amazon filter up to £43 to £63 and with the Hoya, you didn't need to do anything with the pictures. The Amazon's good, but the Hoya is still in a different class.

@rileyphotos Жыл бұрын

That's a good point you make. I automatically assume that all photographers are running some editing software, even if it's not photoshop, but you're right to say that this is a price consideration. The Amazon filter is great for anyone on a tight budget, but it's the Hoya in my bag. Thanks for watching 👏

@mamads7007 Жыл бұрын

whether or not you have a polarizing filter, chances are you still use photoshop

@anglofreak Жыл бұрын

are you sure your decision to purchase photoshop is driven by the difference between AB and Hoya filter?!?!?

@z4ng3tsu1ch1g0 Жыл бұрын

If youre a landscape photographer looking for a CPL filter chances are you already use/pay for editing software.

@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 11 ай бұрын

If you don't yet shoot RAW and process your own photos using lightroom (or other software of your choice) then you have FAR more to gain by starting here, BEFORE you worry about getting into filters.