Cheap vs Expensive Telescope for Astrophotography

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Felix's Astrophotography

Felix's Astrophotography

26 күн бұрын

In this video I would like to use 2 different telescopes for astrophotography and test whether there is a big difference between an expensive and a cheaper telescope. On the one hand I use the Bresser Pollux telescope and on the other hand the Skywatcher 150/750pds telescope.
So if you've ever asked yourself how big the difference is between a cheap and an expensive telescope, then this video is just right for you.
#astrophotography #telescope

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@sandrahertlein2719
@sandrahertlein2719 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for the information. Your second telescope is equipped with the comacorrector. Does that fit to the cheaper one as well? Which one do you prefer? Well, nice video. Thank you
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment. 🙏Yes, theoretically the coma corrector can be used on both telescopes as both have a 2 inch focuser. However, the first telescope has so little coma in the corners that it is almost not needed. Stacking usually results in the images overlapping anyway, which means that the image has to be cropped again at the end anyway. Therefore, the coma corrector is not absolutely necessary for the first telescope. I hope I was able to answer your question. 😊
@guidobel4860
@guidobel4860 23 күн бұрын
I honestly like the first image more. In the second image the galaxy looks pink and there is a lot of walking noise probably due to autoguiding and not dithering (I may be wrong just my 1st impression). Anyway great video, thanks for publishing !!!
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment. I also like the color of the first picture more. Unfortunately, you can't see the colors so well in the second picture because the moon has negatively affected the image. You're right, unfortunately I have quite a lot of walking noise in the second picture. That's because I used the wrong settings for guiding. Do you have a telescope?
@guidobel4860
@guidobel4860 23 күн бұрын
Yes a 70mm refractor. I am also quite a beginner in goto. How do you find the target at >700mm focal length? You do plate solving with the Canon? I ask because I have problems doing that with Fujifilm 😞
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
yes, I use plate solve. I also used the telescope without goto in the beginning. That can be a bit tricky. What focal length do you have exactly?
@rkumardk1
@rkumardk1 23 күн бұрын
Oddly enough. I prefer the cheaper image... Looks a little sharper in the center galaxy region. Also the colour post processing is better. The stars definately look better in the skywatcher scope.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately the colors are not so nice in the second picture because the moon had a negative influence on the picture. Do you also have a telescope ?
@lfbmendes
@lfbmendes 12 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say the SW is necessarily an expensive telescope. More than the other, sure. But still on the cheap side. Luckily, even cheap telescopes have decent mirrors, meaning that the extra money pays for stuff that does not appear on the image, but still are important, such as focuser, rings, screws, etc.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. You are absolutely right.That is why I mentioned the prices of the two telescopes in the title. Do you also own a telescope and if so, which one?
@PedroLiberal
@PedroLiberal 14 күн бұрын
Hey felix! Great video! Question, what Bresser telescope is that? I cannot find any for under 200 euros for the life of me. All of the Polluxs start at almost twice that?
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 14 күн бұрын
Hi. First of all, thank you for your comment. In this video I only calculated the price for the Newton telescope itself. I said that when I introduced the telescope. The telescope with the tripod, so as a set, costs more, as you have noticed.
@phaeton5394
@phaeton5394 23 күн бұрын
Nice video, i recently got into astro this year with the 150P so almost the same telescope! That picture looks better than most of my images so nice job. But im also not the best with polar alignment given im in the southern hemisphere and dont go out of a bortle 9 area.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. Your support means a lot to me.
@Undy1
@Undy1 22 күн бұрын
I don't think this is a good comparison - it's clear that these two nights must've had different conditions for the second image to turn out so much worse. The first image has great colors, low amount of noise and very nice contrast while the second image has very poor contrast, almost no colors at all besides blue tint and A LOT of walking noise. Dunno why, maybe it's just a difference in processing or maybe the conditions on the second night were just much worse resulting in poorer signal to noise ratio. Both these telescopes are pretty cheap and there shouldn't be that much difference between them except for the diffraction spikes and obviously the coma since you only used a corrector on one of them. The amount of light gathered on both should be nearly identical with maybe the cheaper one having a bit more vignetting because of the smaller secondary. And about those diffraction spikes - the ones on the cheap telescope are extremely weird - 3 spider vanes should produce pretty nice 6 spike star pattern instead of what you got and I'm wondering if the telescope was just out of collimation or perhaps the primary mirror had pinched optics (clips holding it in place could be overtightened in which case you need to pull out the mirror from the tube, undo the screws just a little and put the mirror back in). The diffraction spikes on the more expensive telescope are also pretty ugly and it could be the collimation and pinched optics but in that case I know from experience that it's mostly just because of the cheap flimsy sky-watcher spider that's identical in all their Newtonians (I replaced mine with a 3D printed one and it's miles better).
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 22 күн бұрын
First of all, thank you for your comment.😊🙏 The conditions were actually a little different on both nights. Unfortunately, the moon had an impact on the second night, which made it difficult to get the color in the picture. I manually dithered the first picture, but unfortunately I set something wrong with the guiding on the second, which is why I have walking noise in the picture. Unfortunately. Regarding the spikes on the first telescope, all I can say is that it's because of the metal parts at the front of the opening that lead to the spikes. Unfortunately, these are much too big, which is why the spikes don't look so nice. I know that both telescopes aren't incredibly expensive. Unfortunately, I don't own a telescope that's more expensive. But I do think that the price is big enough to make a comparison. One telescope wasn't even built for astrophotography, just for visual observation. I hope I was able to answer your comment. If not, please write to me again. Do you also have a telescope, and if so, which one? Kind regards, Felix 😊 Clear skies 🔭
@newzerozeroone
@newzerozeroone 25 күн бұрын
Is the 2nd picture color calibrated? It seems much more red/violet. Color wise the first is much better. 2nd had auto guiding so naturally the stars are going to be slightly better.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I actually don't like the color in the second picture too, which was partly due to the moon. Thank you for your comment. I like the colors in the first picture a little better too. Have you ever photographed this galaxy?
@newzerozeroone
@newzerozeroone 25 күн бұрын
@FelixsAstrophotography its actually my current project. I just got an asi178mm cooled and I'm using M101 as my first mono target. I'm using a refractor and so far my pictures do not look as good as yours.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 25 күн бұрын
Amazing😊 Which telescope are you using?
@newzerozeroone
@newzerozeroone 25 күн бұрын
@FelixsAstrophotography I just got the Askar 71f. So far the couple of test images compared to my old scope the SVBony SV48p are night and day. The M13 I took is soooo much sharper. Part of it was my camera pairing. When I bought my dslr (Canon 6D mk1) I had no idea how to check the scope with the camera.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 25 күн бұрын
I have actually heard a lot of good things about the telescope.😊How far have you got with the project so far ?
@user-lt9py2pu6u
@user-lt9py2pu6u 16 күн бұрын
Both of those scopes are classed as cheap, it's just that one is cheaper than the other. There are upgrades available for the Sky Watcher which includes tube flocking material, a better focuser, secondary mirror spider and an edge cover for the main mirror to prevent artifacts around stars caused by the clips holding the main mirror. I was going to upgrade my own Sky Watcher 150P in this way but as I now own a 115 f7 apo refractor, I probably won't bother. For the price both of the scopes have given reasonable images, but I think that overall the image captured through. the Sky Watcher scope was better. Both scopes probably required collimating and fine tuning. Were they straight out of the box? The main mirror clips are often over tightened for shipment to prevent any movement during transit which may result in pinched optics.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 14 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment. I know that this is not an extremely expensive telescope, which is why I have shown the prices in the title. I think that the difference is big enough to make a comparison. Yes, you are right, this telescope can be significantly improved with upgrades. I will do that in the future. Both telescopes were collimated before using them. Which camera do you use?
@user-lt9py2pu6u
@user-lt9py2pu6u 14 күн бұрын
With the Sky Watcher Explorer 150P I used a Canon 600D DSLR and and an Altair GPCAM 224 C (OSC) for the odd time that I image Jupiter or Saturn. I don't use my 150P for DSO imaging so have not used any of my cooled OSC or mono cameras with it. To be fair to Sky Watcher they have never really claimed the explorer P f5 Newtonians in the smaller sizes were anything other than entry level instruments intended mainly for visual use, the fact that they can be turned into effective imaging scopes without spending a fortune says a lot about the quality of the optics. These scopes are often supplied with an EQ3-2 mount which I think is too small, the odd time that I use it I placed it on my EQ6-R Pro mount which is of course far more stable.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 14 күн бұрын
can you recommend the Canon Eos 600d? I am thinking about buying it for astrophotography
@robot_scheetje
@robot_scheetje 22 күн бұрын
I also got an 150/750 dps but I don't have a comma detector and a tripod. Do you maybe got any tips for wich comma detector and tripod i shoeld buy (and maybe a lens)
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 22 күн бұрын
As a coma corrector I can definitely recommend the Maxfield coma corrector. As a tripod or mount for this telescope I can recommend the heq5 pro from skywatcher. I hope I was able to help. If you have any questions just let me know.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 22 күн бұрын
As a cheap lens I can recommend the 75-300mm lens from canon. I have already uploaded a few videos about this lens
@3dfxvoodoocards6
@3dfxvoodoocards6 23 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Refractor vs newtonian would also be very very interesting :)
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment. Your support means a lot to me. I don't currently own a refractor, but that would be an idea for another video. Do you also own a telescope and if so, which one?
@3dfxvoodoocards6
@3dfxvoodoocards6 23 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography I own only refractors - 70/700 mm achromat (my first telescope), 102/1000 mm achromat and 102/714 mm Svbony FPL51.
@michaelaldan4354
@michaelaldan4354 7 күн бұрын
ehh..not sure what you did or maybe your eyes need collimation? there is way more detail in the left image
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 7 күн бұрын
In summary, I like the left picture more too. Unfortunately, the moon influenced the picture on the second night. Unfortunately, you can't see the difference so well in the video. When I look at the pictures on my computer in full resolution, you can see more details in the right picture.
@astroimagers
@astroimagers 23 күн бұрын
I would try masking the primary mirror clips to help with those miscellaneous "spikes". Heck, a well collimated 6" Newtonian for less than $200 is totally good enough if it produces the sample images you captured.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment and your tip. The problem with the Bresser telescope is actually that the individual metal parts that provide the spikes at the opening of the telescope are way too thick. Thank you for your tip. I have already thought about that. which picture do you like more?
@astroimagers
@astroimagers 23 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography both. All and any capture still amazes me. Those specific photons made an appointment to hit your sensors at this moment in time...And you just happen to have the software to process the captured images and share it online with the world. Good times!
@kevinashley478
@kevinashley478 13 күн бұрын
Maybe i am ignorant, but the first picture looks like more detail is showing in the galaxy.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 13 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment.😊🙏 I think there are more details in the second picture. But I definitely agree with you that the galaxy looks much nicer and better in the first picture. Do you also have a telescope?
@kevinashley478
@kevinashley478 13 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography i just have a little 70/750 mak.... I have just started astrophotography. I currently have an astromodded Canon T3i, a SA 2i, and i just use my camera lenses for now. I am hoping to get a legit telescope sometime this year. I wanna keep the focal length under 450, so i am looking at 60 - 70mm refractors.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 13 күн бұрын
interesting. Have you ever heard of the Askar 180pro? It is relatively cheap and has a focal length of 180mm. I personally do not own this telescope but have heard good things about it.maybe this would be interesting for you
@kevinashley478
@kevinashley478 13 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography i have heard of it, but wasnt sure about it. I'll look into it again. The scope I have been looking at was the Apertura 60/360 with a field flattener and guide scope for $600. But it is constantly on back order.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 13 күн бұрын
I personally don't know the Askar 180Pro too. Which guiding System would you like to buy?
@SpiriScope_Kaleidoscopes
@SpiriScope_Kaleidoscopes 23 күн бұрын
Great video and comparison! I wonder why only the second image has walking noise? Did you dither while taking subs for the first image? Also, those spikes are caused by the tabs that hold the primary mirror in place. It's recommended to install a round mask on top of the mirror to make the stars look almost perfect.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I didn't use guiding for the first image and therefore dithered manually. I used guiding for the second. Unfortunately the guiding didn't dither because of the wrong setting. Thanks for the tip with the spikes. which picture do you like more?
@SpiriScope_Kaleidoscopes
@SpiriScope_Kaleidoscopes 23 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography Oh that makes sense. Well, dither or die is what they say 😂. I personally like the galaxy in the first image. There's more detail in the galaxy but the coma in the corners is something expected. Also, unfortunately not every coma corrector works well with a given scope. I've tried many with my Quattro and only the Starizona 0.75x produced exceptional images with pinpoint stars across the frame. Anyway, I bumped into your channel just today and already like your videos. I wish you rapid growth in your audience!
@BurgerOosthuizen
@BurgerOosthuizen 17 күн бұрын
Outstanding job, thanks for sharing.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 16 күн бұрын
@BurgerOosthuizen thanks a lot😊🙏 Your support means so much to me😊🔭
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 16 күн бұрын
Thank you so so much.I really appreciate your Support 😊🔭
@Max_Hertlein
@Max_Hertlein 25 күн бұрын
Well done👍
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 25 күн бұрын
I really appreciate your support.Thanks😊🙏
@icyxxxxx
@icyxxxxx 12 күн бұрын
Woah cool!
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 12 күн бұрын
Thank you so so much.I really appreciate your support.Which image do you prefer?
@gamerorion2844
@gamerorion2844 11 сағат бұрын
Your video really helped me understand the difference in these telescope. can you please suggest budget friendly goto mount for the first telescope. Amazing video , Keep Growing👍
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you very much for your nice comment. Your support means a lot to me. Which telescope do you want to attach to the mount?
@gamerorion2844
@gamerorion2844 11 сағат бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography Bresser Pollux 150/750 Reflector Telescope
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 10 сағат бұрын
So you want to buy a new mount for the Bresser Pollux telescope?
@gamerorion2844
@gamerorion2844 10 сағат бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography yes
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 10 сағат бұрын
@gamerorion2844 That depends on what you want to do with it. Do you want to use it just for observation or do you want to attach a camera and a guidescope and other equipment later?
@aaronruvalcaba7702
@aaronruvalcaba7702 15 күн бұрын
Which camera did you use?
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 15 күн бұрын
relatively at the beginning I present the entire telescope😊 I am using the canon eos 2000d
@zetacrucis681
@zetacrucis681 14 күн бұрын
I expect the optics (mirrors) are the same in the two scopes. The main difference is the heavier/thicker 3-pronged spider vanes on the Bresser causing the less pleasing diffraction flares, and the coma corrector + autoguider used with the Skywatcher resulting in a cleaner sharper image. The SW focuser is a lot nicer too - it's a better scope all-round, probably more comparable with the Bresser NT150s OTA than this basic 6-inch kit scope on that wobbly EQ you're forced to buy with it.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 14 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment. You are absolutely right.😊🙏 Do you also own a telescope and if so, which one?
@zetacrucis681
@zetacrucis681 14 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography I had quite a few over the years, SW and GSO Dobs and Newtonians, ED80, 6-inch Intes Mak and few others.. That was back in Australia. Living in Scotland for a few years now I only have a fast 4-inch achromat for widefield visual but would like to get an 8-inch Dob for later in summer for Saturn. For astrophotography I'll just stick with camera lenses for the foreseeable future. I still need to get a half decent EQ mount for that too..
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 14 күн бұрын
Interesting. Very nice telescopes. Do you use a cooled camera or an DSLR camera?
@zetacrucis681
@zetacrucis681 14 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography Just DSLR. Have only dabbled over the years, have been more invested in visual astronomy. My best attempts so far have been with an old manual focus 135mm f/2.8 film lens on a crop sensor on some southern sky gems and Virgo cluster galaxy zoo. Have a full frame now but need a tracker, maybe a used EQ5 with an RA motor...
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 14 күн бұрын
Which camera exactly? I am currently using the Canon EOS 2000D. In the future, however, I would like to buy an astro-modified DSLR. So I'm currently looking for a new camera
@rexsterling7346
@rexsterling7346 6 күн бұрын
11:11 I definitely KNOW you are not correct. Please redo the capture on an equally moonless night. The image taken with the cheaper scope looks way better. DEFINITELY way better.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 6 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment. I like the colors of the picture with the cheaper one more too. But I have to say that in the second picture you can actually see more details in the galaxy. Unfortunately the difference is not as clear as on my computer. When I look at the picture on my computer the picture actually has a lot more details. Unfortunately some details are lost in the video. The fact that the moon was visible on the second night obviously influenced the image. I will make another video like this in the summer. Do you also have a telescope and if so which one?
@mmb3006
@mmb3006 24 күн бұрын
smart how you titled it cheap vs expensive "telescope" and made it seem like you're presenting cheap vs expensive OTA
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for your comment 😊🙏Of course, there are much more expensive telescopes. I think the difference between a cheap telescope that costs about 150 euros and which was not built for astrophotography and a telescope that costs 600 euros is big enough to be able to show a comparison.Unfortunately I don't have a telescope, which is more expensive. I have mentioned the prices specifically in the thumbnail to show the exact price of the two telescopes
@Deerob
@Deerob 24 күн бұрын
Seems like collimation of both of them was pretty off. I’d do that first and then compare!
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 24 күн бұрын
First of all, thank you for your comment.😊🙏 Both telescopes were collimated before I used them.I always collimate my telescopes before using them because I forgot to do it once and the end image wasn't that good.
@Deerob
@Deerob 24 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography May I ask how? The diffraction spikes on the PDS usually look much better when collimated.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 24 күн бұрын
Hello, I always use a laser collimator. It should be fine at f5. But I know what you mean. The spikes are not perfect. Perhaps the focus is not quite right. Do you have any ideas?
@Deerob
@Deerob 24 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography I have used 2 cheap (sub $100) laser collimators and neither of them was collimated in itself 😅 I didn’t feel like collimating my collimation tool… So I opted for the Ocal 2 pro collimator. Never got better results. The laser won’t be able to tell you how misaligned the secondary mirror depth/rotation/etc is. I liked the video idea, which is why I clicked on it, but I know better results can be had even with a dirt cheap Newtonian that are properly set up for imaging.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for your answer. My collimator wasn't collimated either. So I collimated the collimator. Since then it's worked very well. Which telescopes do you use?
@michaelklemm-abraham7298
@michaelklemm-abraham7298 11 сағат бұрын
Please: don’t say I‘ll attach the counterweights in a view minutes. It is always recommended to put the counterweights on first and I don’t want your viewers to dent their OTA on their tripod. The images are very different, I think it would have been wiser to capture less time but on the same night as you initially intended. The Skywatcher is far from beeing an expensive telescope but Bresser is often surprisingly cheap. It should be noted that Skywatcher uses standard Vixen dovetails to attach on your mount as well as standard finder shoes. Although Bresser is usually Vixen compatible, I have seen telescopes that made mount connection surprisingly hard and not using standard finder shoes but their own Bresser/explore scientific type complicates things (for example you can’t swap your finder for a guide scope so easily. That said, seems like the optics are fine and there are a couple modifications that can make the Bresser a lot better (main mirror mask).
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your comment. 😊🙏You are absolutely right that I should attach the counterweights first. I usually do it the way you said. It would have actually been better to take both pictures on one night. Do you also have a telescope and if so, which one exactly?
@michaelklemm-abraham7298
@michaelklemm-abraham7298 10 сағат бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography I have a couple of telescopes. My most used are an old 200P (as I recall there was no PDS version at that time but I might be mistaken) modified a lot by now and a Skywatcher 80/600 doublet ED. The Newtonian sits on an EQ6-R, the ED on a belt modified HEQ-5 (it is a great mount). Rarely I do have a chance to use my TS classic Cassegrain and the Bresser 90/900 achromat which is great for visual astronomy but I modified it by changing the focuser and finder shoe.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 10 сағат бұрын
Fantastic.What cameras do you use or do you observe the night sky?
@michaelklemm-abraham7298
@michaelklemm-abraham7298 10 сағат бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography The old and trusty ZWO ASI 1600MM Pro after great success with my Fuji APS-C mirrorless camera which unmodified was a lot better than my unmodified Canon full frame camera (less loss of H-alpha signal.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 9 сағат бұрын
Interesting.I am planning to buy a new camera in the next weeks
@tahademir27
@tahademir27 2 күн бұрын
It seems like you got walking noise on the 2nd image, you should dither :)
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 2 күн бұрын
You are absolutely right. I actually wanted to set dithering but unfortunately I forgot and only noticed it the next morning. Thank you for your comment. Do you also have a telescope and if so which one?
@tahademir27
@tahademir27 2 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography I have a Samyang 135mm lens combined with a DSLR on a Star Adventurer. I also have guiding but since my mount is not GOTO, I manually dither DEC.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 2 күн бұрын
@tahademir27 Interesting. I've also been thinking about buying this lens. Is the camera astro-modified?
@tahademir27
@tahademir27 2 күн бұрын
@@FelixsAstrophotography This lens is wonderful, there is a bit of luck with getting a good copy, unfortuneately my camera is not modified, I don't want to get it modded but I am gonna upgradge to a cooled astro cam when I can.
@FelixsAstrophotography
@FelixsAstrophotography 2 күн бұрын
@tahademir27 Thank you for your answer. I've heard a lot that there are differences with this lens compared to other lenses. Which camera are you using exactly?
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