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Fosi Audio V3 Review - The Best Amp Under $400?

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@clarencehoover6748
@clarencehoover6748 Жыл бұрын
Power specifications should always identify what measurement method they are using: RMS (root mean square) Power or Peak Power. Otherwise it is useless. Like telling someone something is 3.2 long. What? Inches? Feet? Meters? Using Peak Power as a rating is a deceptive way to inflate perceptions. RMS is the legit honest mathematical way to state power ratings.
@lwdp74
@lwdp74 Жыл бұрын
If it sounds ok measurements don’t really matter.😊
@42degrees86
@42degrees86 Жыл бұрын
Good to know what you're getting though.
@nathanaelcole8466
@nathanaelcole8466 Жыл бұрын
Wattage was quoted, so not quite like saying 3.2 long and leaving inches off. I get your point though, but it is more akin to saying a car has 400 hp and you might ask wheel horsepower or engine crank horsepower. The Amazon info does state MAX power, which most folks looking at an audiophile level amp as they claim know 300 is the max number.
@guily6669
@guily6669 Жыл бұрын
You won't probably ever get the rated power anyway cause you will need a power supply that cost quite more than the whole amp it self...
@AnasSuhaimi
@AnasSuhaimi Жыл бұрын
The TI datasheet for TPA3255 is very transparent about it.
@PF-th5ho
@PF-th5ho Жыл бұрын
Added this to a pair of old JM Lab Focal Micro Utopia speakers that I had lying around the office. Now the Focals in their day cost around $10k. Fosi V3 with a 48v power supply drove them musically without a problem. Mixing a $100 product to drive a $10k pair of speakers is crazy, but it shows how far Class D amps have come.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 ай бұрын
I have a Fosi BT30D Pro driving a pair of LSA2 Statements, these were $6000 new. The system sounds wonderful.
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an amazing amp, but please add a suggested speaker pairing in your reviews, or at least mention what speakers you used. Thank you as always for your time and effort to share this with us all. Take care, brother.
@danielseiler4344
@danielseiler4344 Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion
@Panslapper
@Panslapper Жыл бұрын
Monitor Audio Bronze 200.
@youtubeforever209
@youtubeforever209 Жыл бұрын
Wharfedale Evo 4.2 perfekt fit. I run it with another TPA3255 Chipset board and it is just amazing
@shaunyweaver1144
@shaunyweaver1144 Жыл бұрын
Q acoustics concept 20 go really well with d amps. Like someone said the evo 4.2 go amazingly well but a bit steep in price to amplifier . My Spendors go fab too .
@Panslapper
@Panslapper Жыл бұрын
@@shaunyweaver1144 I was thinking some might think the speakers recommended might be on the pricey side and while they are not cheap they will allow this little class d amp push every detail through. It’s also not just Fosi Audio that have taken the 3255 chip a little further with better grade circuitry, caps and resistors there are some excellent examples available online around the £170 mark that easily provide enough sound quality to justify a £400-£700 pair of speakers.
@DannerPlace
@DannerPlace 11 ай бұрын
Receivde and audited the V3 today. Compared with my Akitika GT108 power amp, which is a stellar performer. The Fosi V3 sounds every bit as good. Really surprised how good it sounds. BTW, speakers are Cornwall III's, CD is Emotiva ERC 4, and cartridge is a Nakaoka MP-200 on a Carbon EVO, so it's a compelling (to me ) performance.
@ralphe.thompson5010
@ralphe.thompson5010 Жыл бұрын
i got a v3 and placed my sparkos chips in it from an a07. mine is paired with schiit syn, dual polk psw-10s and es20s and a polk cs10 center. i have to agree with the description...a little less bass than the a07 but the soundstage is noticeably more revealing. i use a small 9 band eq to add more to the bottom . fantastic sounding little amplifier. gives me some immersive sound that i just didn't quite get with the a07. i am using a 36v 6a power supply.
@kevintan2221
@kevintan2221 Жыл бұрын
I received my V3 about 2 weeks ago... So I brought it to work, I'm working at a audio gear showroom. I was able to try it with rather costly and revealing Wilson Benesch P2.0 and also Discovery 3.0 speakers! 😂 The little V3 aquitted itself very very well indeed. Oh the front end was an awesome Jadis turntable with a Goldenberg cartridge priced over $5k, and the ridiculous CH Precision P1 phonostage!!! 😂
@mikebiron7339
@mikebiron7339 Жыл бұрын
I can attest to FOSI audio's quality. I've bought several brands of these little Chinese amps. All stopped working from 1 day to 1 year. Yet, my FOSI units continue to function properly and sound great. I made my own power supplies to bump up the power. I made a analog wireless speaker setup for my rear surrounds that has zero latency, and use the FOSI stuffed under the couch going on 6 years now. It doesn't complain and works perfectly. All my desktop computers have a FOSI with an external DAC via USB. They sound awesome.
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
No you can't. BT20 tubes destroying V3 with upgraded tubes and the so called wattage from 48v is utter bullshit.
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
Unless something sounds like playing music better then 20pro vacuum upgraded tubes stop wasting money. I tested way to much and 99% inlcuded V3 fosi sound like music having abstinecies. Yes I can match Randy's setup and no you shouldn't have to at 100$. Others said something about this and I'm just saying it again. Chfi is expensive compared to doing it right
@caseyodonnell6621
@caseyodonnell6621 Жыл бұрын
$97.99 after your coupon code with a 48V5A power supply. Yeah, sure, why not? I don't really need another amp but am curious to hear how it compares to my old Topping PA 3 which has faithfully been on desk duty driving my Micca RB42's for years. Thanks Randy. Keep bringing the entertaining and informative content.
@Dr.Rothell78
@Dr.Rothell78 Жыл бұрын
How did you get the option for the 48 V 5A power supply
@plotin2009
@plotin2009 Жыл бұрын
Yeah - keep us informed how it sounds! 👍👍
@miagi1337
@miagi1337 Жыл бұрын
One like for including other Amazon links
@jasonhilliker2266
@jasonhilliker2266 Жыл бұрын
They should do mono blocks with no volume control.
@CleartoneAudio
@CleartoneAudio Жыл бұрын
Yes, please!
@fastrid
@fastrid Жыл бұрын
Yes
@youtubeforever209
@youtubeforever209 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what will be the advantage? Price?
@nialstewart8263
@nialstewart8263 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeforever209 The fewer components in the path the less noise/ distortion you get.
@MechAdv
@MechAdv Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeforever209Having no signal path modulation in the amplifier itself results in the lowest possible SNR and THD for any given amplifier topology. That’s why diehard audiophiles argue that having tone controls ruins an amplifier. A mono block, meaning only 1 channel per amplifier, means that you can drive a single speaker with the full rated power of the power supply unit. So a monoblock power amp with no volume or tone controls is theoretically the best way to get the cleanest and most efficient amplification of a single channel. I would argue that a pot for volume isn’t adding distortion or raising the noise floor, however being able to bridge the channels into a monoblock with these high value mini amps would absolutely be worth it. You already need a DAC, so you get one with a preamp function for volume control and you’d be getting very very high quality amplification for very little money.
@OlympicBruce
@OlympicBruce Жыл бұрын
One of your wishes is granted!! The Fosi Audio site lists two options for the Power Supply, one of which is 48v/5A. I ordered one that is now two states away from delivery with UPS. Please push them for a 48v/10A as you mentioned!
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
Yes, we are trying to develop 48V 10A PSU.
@demonreturns4336
@demonreturns4336 Жыл бұрын
🙏
@roberttaylor3118
@roberttaylor3118 9 ай бұрын
Just ordered one of these from their site. Its 20% off for black friday, and unlike amazon, their website gives you the option to upgrade to the 48v 5a power supply, and it came out to $88 including tax and shipping with the sale!
@Panslapper
@Panslapper Жыл бұрын
It is a subjective choice for most people as to what a ‘bargain’ is these days…what some say is a ‘budget choice’ often leaves me thinking they are not in touch with the real world. The V3 is more than one amplifier, for example, the Yamaha AS201 is not. The V3 can be made to sound very similar to an muscular class A/B or a well detailed class A/B amplifier at the switch of two small components at very little cost. Switching the op amps can literally give 2 maybe 3 different sound signatures or in other words sound similar to an new Denon, Rotel or Cambridge Audio…and that’s a fact! I can pick out different op amp that will give me the sound of each one of those amplifiers and just pop them into the V3, now that’s a bargain! The op amps cost a few Pounds/Dollars, the amplifiers that they will sound like cost a few hundred and who is going to buy 3 of them at well over a £1000 or $1300 unless they are very rich? There is also desk space which the Yamaha will simply not allow. These days many, many people only use one input. I have had numerous big amps with many inputs and still found I only ever really used one and that is mainly for a dac over the last 10 years. Then the is the DAC itself that while many amps like the Yamaha have Bluetooth included they will never match the quality of an modern external dac. I had a Rotel A11 Tribute that has superior Bluetooth over the Yamaha and I still never used it and wasn’t better than the external DAC that I was also using. To be honest Bluetooth is awful, it always has been and still is. It was invented for telephone calls and not music. Then we have Airplay which far superior to Bluetooth and with something like the Wiim Mini plugged into a SMSL SU1 and an V3 you will have a far superior sound quality and optional digital inputs than the Yamaha and also cheaper if you shop clever! Something else to consider is the an external dac will be far superior to 99% of all current amplifiers on the market today up to £1500/$1800 and even more! The Yamaha is not a flexible as it is being shown here, it is for adding extra equipment (primarily analogue based) that is also going to cost you a lot more money and only has one choice of sound signature which is good if you like the sound of the Yamaha but you are stuck or having to return it if you don’t. Then there is maintenance, the V3 will be far easier to repair if something goes wrong. So is the Yamaha such a bargain and does it have the convenience that comes with the V3…you decide for yourself but for me I would prefer of the flexibility of the V3 in regards to sound quality, sound signature and power, the size in regards to space and maintenance. There is also the fact that you can have more flexibility when choosing speakers as you are not stuck with one stock sound as you would be with the Yamaha. You can tailor the Fosi Audio to probably any set of speakers in regards to sound and power! If you have hard to drive speakers then the bigger power supply will compensate for that as a smaller power supply will compensate for more efficient speakers…so you may save money there too…
@stripecooke4254
@stripecooke4254 Жыл бұрын
if I want the same sound as a Denon what op amp do you surgest?
@Panslapper
@Panslapper Жыл бұрын
@@stripecooke4254 The link will take you to the correct op amp. These are genuine opa1622 so don't worry about fakes, I have tested a pair bought and sent within the last 2 weeks and they are genuine, these will fit into the V3 perfectly and they are not that expensive either especially compared to the Muses 01 which is also a great choice but around 3 x the price and probably not vastly different in sound quality.
@gage4375
@gage4375 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable 🤯,kids are so lucky today because they can build a system for cheap.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
Don't you like it?
@jimfarrell4635
@jimfarrell4635 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. It has never been more affordable to appreciate high quality music. We are seeing a revolution in affordable audio components mostly ( but not exclusively ) fuelled by Chinese manufacturers.
@Desertpunk1986
@Desertpunk1986 11 ай бұрын
It’s also cool to build these for PC’s.
@scarlet7960
@scarlet7960 11 ай бұрын
I don't think most kids are into audiophile
@LauraBishop-bi2qj
@LauraBishop-bi2qj Жыл бұрын
Hey Randy. I have purchased both fosi and douk products and ended up staying with douk. i would sincerely recommend you to test some more douk products, their prices seem to be more fair.
@weirdfishes9961
@weirdfishes9961 Жыл бұрын
Bought a V3 on the recommendation of this channel. I was not prepared for how good it is. Running Bluesound 2i through it. Switching thru a Douk Audio switching box (with VU meters!) out to a pair of Dynaudio Special 40s. All the volume I need. Livelier up top but the Special 40s really benefited from it. This is the 3rd piece of hardware I’ve bought on Randy’s recommendation. Now Im starting to think about a pre-amp for it; open to suggestions.
@t0nyxgq
@t0nyxgq Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Randy, I bought the amp on Amazon to try out and swapped in the Sparkos ss3602 opamps. You'll need the risers for that or the stems of the opamp won't reach. I compared it to my VTV Purifi Amp with Sparkos 2590 Opamps and I gotta say, I'm impressed. They sound very very similar but the VTV has a tone more headroom. Tonality, it's hard to tell apart and at first listen, my cousin who's not an audiophile, said "sounds the same to me". Only after harder listen can I say that the VTV has better dynamics, better instrument separate, and better bass weight but it's subtle for music up to 70-80dB. Perhaps pushing it to 90dB, you can hear that more powerful amps will sound more effortless but below 80dB (which is what I listen to for 95% of the time) it's really hard to tell the difference. I'm saying the Fosi Audio is around 95% of the Purifi. It has just as much detail and clarity and does sound holographic. It's not flat like the Aiyima A07, which I returned. It's so good I'm waiting on a 48v 5a power supply. Qobuz -> Wiim Pro -> Topping D70s -> Fosi Audio (VTV Purifi) -> Dynaudio Focus 260 (4 ohms)
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
Compare to a bad amp you will be happy. BT 20 tube with upgraded tubes eight now only one not soundsinf like thin soup
@RUMBLEGO1
@RUMBLEGO1 Жыл бұрын
Just got mine and thanks for the promo code Randy. Immediately am noticing that slightly better separation of instruments over the A07. This thing was just turned on less than 30 minutes ago. Listening to Lorreena Mckennits band offshoot band Secret Sky's latest album Opium. Caroline's voice is just floating and so well defined. Yeah the A07 as amazing as i thought and still think it is, wasn't pulling this off. Looking forward to listening to much more tonight. Sounding GREAT! Guess things may get better eh with a few hours on the capacitors. Cool! Thumbs up here!
@RUMBLEGO1
@RUMBLEGO1 Жыл бұрын
Ok.....couple of songs later and....this is just ridiculously better. Yeah....this sounds like a big boy amp. For this cash? Crazy!
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
true worth the 10k tag, best portables indeed
@scottlowell493
@scottlowell493 Жыл бұрын
The amp has good bones. Not made with generic caps and resistors. Folks, thats a BIG deal, especially at that price. It's about like a $750 class D audio (brand) 2 channel amp. I didn't see anywhere HOW it was tested at 300wpc, I suspect only at 1khz, not 20hz-20khz both channels driven. I digress, if it can drive as hard as the numbers suggest, it could handle some tough speakers. My ongoing reluctance with class D, is the treble. I get nothing but rolled off and vague treble from class D so far. If you are a casual listener, or moderately critical- this amp looks like a giant killer. . crown .
@elikirkwood4580
@elikirkwood4580 Жыл бұрын
I have two Fosi amps now, a bt30d that was running my Neumi bs 5s hooked up to my htpc, which I replaced with a bt20a pro because I needed more power to keep up with my sub. The bt30 is in my garage now. Both amps sound very good and I can highly recommend them to someone looking to get into the hobby on a budget, and honestly even for people who aren't on a budget, they're just really good.
@Jon-nz3dm
@Jon-nz3dm Жыл бұрын
If you need a dac that can output to multiple amps(11:53 if I'm understanding you correctly), Topping D30Pro can output from the XLR and RCA at the same time. So one could just level match the two amps and have an identical signal pretty much(both outputs are totally clean of course).
@LeeBergerMediaProd
@LeeBergerMediaProd Жыл бұрын
Just got one. I am not disappointed. Powering Polk SDA SRS 2.3 (75 watts min) and it plays quite loud with no distortion that I can hear. What a value!
@shaunyweaver1144
@shaunyweaver1144 Жыл бұрын
Well I've ordered this one along with the 7 band GE let's see how it goes . The sound quality of these little amps is becoming insane . Quality parts also . Thanks for the review Randy .
@msdprojekt
@msdprojekt Жыл бұрын
Can I ask what the 7 band GE is?
@shaunyweaver1144
@shaunyweaver1144 Жыл бұрын
@@msdprojekt Douk Audio graphic equaliser Randy reviewed the 5 band
@msdprojekt
@msdprojekt Жыл бұрын
@@shaunyweaver1144 Oh nice I totally missed that, gonna go check it out, really need an EQ, cheers.
@sthomper89512
@sthomper89512 8 ай бұрын
addendum - the v3 is good for the money. quiet, able to get high volumes, clean sounding. but to me all the chi-fi stuff i had for some nagging reason to me sounded too, two dimensional and like a flat-noise-wall in space. so i gave up on it and gambled with two monoblocked schiit gjallarhorns (i like the small form factor and have limited stacking space), worried about the lower power compared to the v3. the schiit stuff does everything better...i know, more cost but for me MUCH more listenable....much more dimension, separation and they bring out detail that the chi-fi just placed in a 2-D sound plane so to speak.
@bigd835
@bigd835 Жыл бұрын
Go easy bro. I already bought 3 Fosi amps. now im scratching my head thinking i MUST have this one . thanks alot ( ?)
@BadgerMonkey
@BadgerMonkey Жыл бұрын
Ever since this sponsoring crap this channel is more shill than anything it seems. Cut it out, Randy; the Mandalorian is telling you "this is NOT the way".
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
😄You definitely deserve it. These things are the tanks of the Amp world!
@jeffbarkley8360
@jeffbarkley8360 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these on order and also have a Topping PA5 and Aiyima a07. My Topping is very nice but I don't use it all the time because of reliability fears (when I purchased the PA5, I had read up on the TPA3251 and felt the 38v psu was too high, as the chip can only use 38v maximum voltage so I changed it out to a 32v 5a. It runs cooler than stock. ). The Aiyima A07 runs much cooler in the summer, so that's what I am using now. Thanks very much for your review! It was great!
@ramondelgado6778
@ramondelgado6778 5 ай бұрын
Any thoughts after getting the v3? Thank you!
@greatpix
@greatpix Жыл бұрын
I just got the SMSL SU-1 DAC today and hooked it up to my new Fosi V3 with the 48 volt power supply. USB connection to my PC and optical connection to my TV. Speakers are the Andrew Jones designed Pioneer tower speakers, 2nd gen. It sounds wonderful! I even like how it sounds at lower volume when I listen to music, use the PC or watch TV late at night. Bought the SMSL SU-1 from Apos and the amp and 48 volt power supply from Amazon. Pioneer speakers I bought new, years ago and in keeping with the Cheapaudioman ideals I got them on close-out for $60 apiece.
@ambbarofficial
@ambbarofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks to your recommendation I bought the Fosi Audio TB100 and I am super happy. Thank you!
@xlr82bgr8
@xlr82bgr8 11 ай бұрын
Hi Randy and all, Got the V3 two weeks ago and it's pretty impressive though lacking a tad more base. Using my Wiim Pro with the internal DAC, the DAC is not great. Mow that both are run in, this constellation is actually very good. I also have the Geshelli J2S with AK 4499EX coming to me next week so I'm really looking forward to hooking it up. Oh yeah I'm using a Sterelith Monitor 252 audiophile stereo amplifier so I'm living with a single Stereo 2 channel pure bliss. Not many people have heard of Swiss Company Stereolith, but you guys don't know what you are missing.
@ramondelgado6778
@ramondelgado6778 5 ай бұрын
Update after adding the DAC?
@prob17
@prob17 Жыл бұрын
Got me mine. Sounds good and I like having the on / off as part of the volume knob.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Жыл бұрын
It should follow la90's switches on the back also (volume bypass, and mono/stereo options). Your suggestion on the power supply makes (very much) sense. Go Fosi! This seems like an excellent pairing with warmer speakers. (Polk and Elac bs41 come to mind)
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your valuable suggestions for further improvement. Could you please tell more why do you want to bypass the volume?
@MultiDragola
@MultiDragola Жыл бұрын
@@fosiaudio to use a deticated power amp for a hometheater avr with preouts. A lot people want separates, its the reason we buy these amps because we cant drop $500 dollars on a power amp made for home theater which is usually stereo at this price to performance. The bypassed volume knob makes it so we can just control the volume with our home theater systems without having to get up and redial the gain and having to match them across multiple speaker pairs (5.1.4/7.1.4). If there was a product with a quality and parts like v3 with bypass as well mono capability to further separate the amp crosstalk using the 3255 is necessary as its tried and true for performance, but I know many like me would be willing to pay 100 dollars each for monoblocks if the performance is there as with the v3.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
@@MultiDragola Got it.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 5 ай бұрын
Well, the Fosi V3 is here, listening to it right now. WiiM Pro via digital coax to a PS Audio Stellar Gaincell DAC/Preamp, XLR to RCA out to the Fosi, which is powering the Zu Audio DW6 Supremes. The Zu's are 95 dB at 12 Ohm... The little V3 sounded anemic to my ear, and then I used a pair of XLR to RCA adapters and plugged those in to my PS Audio Gaincell DAC/Preamp and she improved in overall SQ. I then broke out the Douk Audio line level booster, $45 on Amazon. Katie bar the door! What have I done? What just happened? I am now blown away at what this little amp is doing... The voicing, the instrument separation, everything is easily placed, no compression at all. And the best part, no Class D sound! Normally a Class D amplifier will have my eyes bleeding, not this Fosi, it is very class A/B sounding. This should not be happening! Yes, pair this up with that Douk line level booster and get ready to hear music in a way that I never expected. I would say this little box is a true Giant killer.
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Жыл бұрын
The good news about these power ratings is they are roughly doubling from 8 ohm to 4 ohm. Which seems to indicate that it has good current capabilities. Edit: I agree that the small binding posts are the weak point. Maybe Fosi can build a version with a larger chassis that has 2-4 inputs, and a built in shielded power supply (linear even?) - and really clean up on their market share?
@DannerPlace
@DannerPlace 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, ordered on through your Amazon link.
@LoftyVisions
@LoftyVisions Жыл бұрын
I have the BT20A Pro and just received my V3. I've got it wired up to a pair of Kef 104ab reference speakers from the 70's, which are only 85db sensitivity. The BT20APro sounded good, but the V3 sounds so much clearer. The bass is a tad lacking but the Wiim's EQ takes care of that. Pretty stoked the V3 can make these old Kefs sing again, and for the price they're asking its a no brainer. Highly recommended 👍
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but no. Remove bass and it sounds clear???? Anyone recommending this have a sub filling bottom. Noo this sounds wrong. Like this you have changed audio with dac, cables ++. I did on buchs 400 MK2. Go for fosi pro upgraded tubes .. . Tested on XTZ beryllium was ok ish. Bass gone... Testet on focals fabers and a few others. Watt bs f off. BT 20 with tubes got more power. Fosi calling you out here
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
No. No no. There is nothing below 60hz. This sounds horrible and just no
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
No. This actually has no bass fundament. Who the f recommend this sh... Tested with 48V vs BT20 vacume upgraded tubes. Not vs my high end stuff
@LoftyVisions
@LoftyVisions Жыл бұрын
@@wegardfjeld3789 What on earth are you babbling on about? 😄 My apologies, I am not fluent in Gobbledygook
@wegardfjeld3789
@wegardfjeld3789 Жыл бұрын
@@LoftyVisions fan boy or just never listened to proper sound equipment?
@steveowens398
@steveowens398 10 ай бұрын
Living up to your channel name on this one for sure! Thanks for the detailed review.
@starker1971
@starker1971 Жыл бұрын
I am the type of listener that always turns the Bass and Treble all the way up in any car. I must like dynamic audio. I have learned through failed experiments it is a failure to compare any 3255 amps when both don't offer the tone knobs. This has been between the A07 and the A08 pro and the A08 pro and the Douk H7. The perceptions I erroneously fell into: Sony SS-CS5 had more bass than the RP-600m and 160m. Sony was favored with the A08. Sony was better matched when I fixed my error, but I still think there is some detail in the Sony Bass that the Klipsch isn't matching. Caveat, I am not getting loud enough to challenge the Sony's limitations. Fading up a JBL Stage a170 with the SVS ultra bookshelf on top of it. I thought I was getting cancellations with the bass when adding the a170 to the already playing Ultra. It turned out that was mostly caused by using the Douk H7. When I repeated the same process with the a170 connected to the A08 pro. Addition of bass occurred as expected. I think I was hearing the JBL add flat but the tweeter was much more pronounced, thus it overall sounded like a subtraction of bass. Both of these were embarrassingly horrible comparisons. My take away from this is a new assertion that, for me, the tone controls are very important. I also have the updated Fosi TB10D. The sweet spot for me is high power, tone controls, and maybe the ease of swapping op-amps. I guess the more you buy in your exploration, the less you have to consider once you know what you prefer. Cordially, Addict in FOMO rehab.
@jaya3537
@jaya3537 Жыл бұрын
Hi Randy, loving the channel. This amp looks awesome. Was going for a BT20A Pro but now wondering what Bluetooth adapter would work well with this V3 for a sweet bedroom / phone based system?
@ramondelgado6778
@ramondelgado6778 Жыл бұрын
Or you could just go with the BT20A Pro model with the sweet orange volume knob. I have that one too, and it is really fantastic!
@wd3574
@wd3574 Жыл бұрын
I would like a version without the volume control at all. I would then use it as a straight amplifier and attach my favorite preamp to it.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Me too. If you could bridge it would be even better
@RanTausi
@RanTausi Жыл бұрын
Yes me too😊
@RanTausi
@RanTausi Жыл бұрын
Yes me too😊
@MissionFreiheit
@MissionFreiheit Жыл бұрын
Mike on Audio already reviewed this amp and liked it a lot. Good to see that you also like it. Must be a good product then
@larryjohnson9019
@larryjohnson9019 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully the claims of being able to output 300W x2 for these series of TI TPA3255 Class D amplifiers are not false. (see Willston Audio Labs test of the Aiyima A07 5 months ago on KZfaq) I've also reached these power outputs with my own pair of A07s powered by a properly spec'd 600va SMPS, which I built. The TPA can output 17 amps of current before triggering its protection circuit, this is not Fosi or Aiyima's spec... but Texas Instruments (TI). (See TI's datasheet for the TPA3255). Lastly 48V 10a (480va) supply will never deliver 300Wx2 regardless of the amplifier's Class Type being either A, A/B or D. You need a minimum of 600VA power supply with the most efficient amplification class..that being Class D. With that said, if you want full power delivery capability with a 48V supply you need to be looking for one that can supply at least 13A of current not 10A.
@HausOFNRG
@HausOFNRG Жыл бұрын
... ladies and gentlemen, an audiophile has graced the comments section. Well done ✌️.
@joshblank1
@joshblank1 10 ай бұрын
Can you show how to swap the op amps for Fosi V3?
@bujin5455
@bujin5455 10 ай бұрын
I really wish this thing had a dedicated power button. I would prefer not to put that much wear on the knob just turning it off and on, and I would prefer not having to change my sound level just because I'm turning it off and on.
@postjm9
@postjm9 Жыл бұрын
One note: Having tested some against a physical meter, SPL meter apps are awful. Like +/- 10 dB error. It's insane.
@Lou.B
@Lou.B Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your work Randy, especially when you lay out component characteristics and give examples of how well (or not) they might play together with other components, as you did here - VERY HELPFUL! I just watched your Topping pa5 review, and for the caveats you detail there and for the Fosi V3, I'm not inclined to buy either one, despite how good they may sound together. Cheap or arcane connectors and no tone control (even with the pair) means I'll keep looking.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
Then you like fosi audio BT20A PRO which has tone control?
@ramondelgado6778
@ramondelgado6778 Жыл бұрын
@@fosiaudio The BT20A PRO is an amazing unit! I also have the TB10D running in my office set up and it sounds better and handles lower impedence speakers better, than my Marantz NR-1403, which is now a pre-amp with the TB10D powering my bookshelf speakers! Great amps!!!!
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
@@ramondelgado6778 Thank you, and if you have any suggestions, you are welcome to let us know.
@ramondelgado6778
@ramondelgado6778 5 ай бұрын
@@fosiaudioI would love to see you make a unit with much better quality speaker binding posts, NO BLUETOOTH, NO DAC, 2 RCA inputs, an input selector with on/off switch, and a full sized sub output. The VU meter from the MC101 would be great and tone controls. Make it $149 and it will do soo well.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio 5 ай бұрын
@@ramondelgado6778 The speaker binding posts are too small? So it is the MC101 without bluetooth and one more RCA?
@seanharding
@seanharding Жыл бұрын
You mentioned using the pre-out for a subwoofer, but that won't work very well because it's just a bypass. It is not adjusted by the volume knob.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
This design ensures that individuals who prefer not to adjust the volume on a second amplifier can maintain a consistent output level from the pre-out.
@seanharding
@seanharding Жыл бұрын
@@fosiaudio I understand, but it contradicts what @cheapaudioman said in his video. It can't realistically be used for a subwoofer.
@starker1971
@starker1971 Жыл бұрын
Randy, when you wish to compare Amps, you could use the same Pre-amp level source with some kind of splitter. This could also open you up to testing with LP fed to an external phono amp, or CD player, or what ever 2 channel party feed you prefer.
@Crihnoss
@Crihnoss Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the BT20A PRO? there's a 10 buck difference and the BT20A PRO has tone control and BT. Same chipset though.
@tonym8358
@tonym8358 Жыл бұрын
There is room for Sparkos Labs ss3302 or will be too close to the capacitors?
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
You may need to push away some caps.
@rahliE777
@rahliE777 Жыл бұрын
Those Q Acoustic’s are looking sharp on that desktop! I definitely think I’m gonna go with those as my next desktop speaker, I have a black/white sort of theme in my game room where my PC is at and those would go perfect on it
@surfmorworkless
@surfmorworkless Жыл бұрын
This seems like a pretty neat amp Randy. Thanks for informing us about these fascinating budget products. Also, congrats on the coming Fozi audio sponsorship. 🙂👍
@b.k.7364
@b.k.7364 Жыл бұрын
The next version should have the option to switch it to a mono block. What a win that would be! Even if a little more expensive
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought it would be cool if you could bridge something like this
@MechAdv
@MechAdv Жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman You should communicate with Fosi and Aiyima reps that there is a pretty large contingent of their consumer base that would buy 3255 based monoblock power amps multiple at a time. For less than 100$ a pop, these are pretty much “fun toy” level purchases for audio enthusiasts. I’m tempted to grab on of these V3s, but I’m not so sure that it warrants an upgrade over the A07 I have running my center. A bridged power amp version though? That’s new and exciting enough to fork over 80$ for the impulse buy.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Жыл бұрын
volume bypass would also be great.
@D1N02
@D1N02 Жыл бұрын
@@cheapaudioman there are some bridgable dual tpa3255 boards on Al's Express. You have to figure out yourself where to get two 20A 48v power supplies.
@Anchor2012
@Anchor2012 Жыл бұрын
@@MechAdv WIth switchable low and hipass filters on them - I would buy three, one per channel and one for the sub.
@vvraithz
@vvraithz Жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear more about how you are using and enjoying the Schiit Syn.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman Жыл бұрын
Sure. Fun product. Easy to use in my living room
@motleypixel
@motleypixel Жыл бұрын
Okay let my come at this at a different angle, put together a best bang for buck system to use the following components: Pair of BIC DV62si 8ohn bookshelf speakers, Def-Tech PowerField Super Cube II Subwoofer using LFE in only, Sony 51 disc CD player with optical out only, Pioneer PL7 TT. And the following listening room and needs: Don't need blow you head off sound, casual single listener in a 15'' x 20' room with 8' celling. Also need ability to stream BT LDAC/ATPX to the system and transmit BT to my B&W PX7 headphones. Finally, I do need tones controls at minimum. Thank you.
@bedlamite42
@bedlamite42 11 ай бұрын
Williston tested this amp. 10a supply doesn't do any more than 5a, and pre out is wrong, it's line out.
@julianchippett4665
@julianchippett4665 Жыл бұрын
How does it compare to emotiva basx a2m? Right now on sale under $300.
@nathanberger618
@nathanberger618 Жыл бұрын
My Fosi V3 is in California on its way to the east coast, Randy!
@TheTeddyboy46
@TheTeddyboy46 7 ай бұрын
just got the amp hooked it up . This is one of the best amps i have ever heard. The power rating is only part of the story . This amp has a lot of spaciness. & sound stage, and clarity. The bonus id it is not burned in yet so it is only going to get better. I have the Aiyima A07 and this fosi sounds better.
@rand9994
@rand9994 Жыл бұрын
I like these TI chips, but prefer the sound of the Infineon based amps like some SMSL and Loxjie. Not as much power but they run cooler and sound a bit closer to AB to me, especially with efficient speeakers.
@fescolfaro
@fescolfaro 9 ай бұрын
They're excellent. However, if Fosi is taking suggestions, BALANCED INS (XLR), for use with studio monitors and professional audio interfaces. Only thing missing to open up a door to different monitoring possibilities.
@lwdp74
@lwdp74 Жыл бұрын
I have a PA5 and loaned it to my friend who tried it on his inefficient 16 ohm LS35A speakers. He was very impressed. I’d like to know how they’d compare. Not sure if the PA5’s are still available.
@berber5985
@berber5985 Жыл бұрын
Are you picking this or the Emotiva A2? I have the V3 with the Emotiva PT1 and it sounds good but wondering if it be worth the upgrade to the Emotiva or stick with the fosi v3?
@gillesthibodeau7078
@gillesthibodeau7078 Жыл бұрын
Someone tested 160W 8 ohm and 190W 4 ohm with 48V10A PSU not 300W x 2. I hate those wrong specs! Not honest! They should offer the option for 48V10A . ;)
@BadgerMonkey
@BadgerMonkey Жыл бұрын
That would make it too easy to prove that the ratings are nonsense, or that it only can hit 300w once before melting, or whatever.
@cedricboivin9422
@cedricboivin9422 Жыл бұрын
Think of that beast with a discrete op amp 🤯
@lithiumstatic
@lithiumstatic 6 ай бұрын
For class D, it's not bad and probably one of the best class D amps out. However, I tried it with few speakers and I can say, without doubt, pairing the V3 with Klipsch Cornwalls is disappointing. The Cornwall is a VERY revealing speaker and showed the weaknesses of the V3. With other speakers I had no issues and enjoyed the V3. I'm using the stock op amps. I'm not bashing the V3, just be warned with some speakers, don't expect a smooth presentation. I appreciate the V3 for what it is.
@jerrybandy3827
@jerrybandy3827 Жыл бұрын
Now I want one and I don't even need one. But I did think about hooking it up to my Fosi Audio HD3 portable dac/amp. I suppose I could use the Neutron Player app on my phone as an equalizer for the source. That would be fun!
@geezer5236
@geezer5236 Жыл бұрын
So should I sell my Aiyima A07 ( which I'm OK with) and get this? Is it that much of an upgrade? Or maybe wait and see if Aiyima ups their game? Where does it end?
@Budgethifiamps
@Budgethifiamps Жыл бұрын
A07 After four or five years of precipitation and accumulation, thousands of evaluations tell you that the quality is intuitive and visible, and everything will be proved by time
@demonreturns4336
@demonreturns4336 Жыл бұрын
It never ends….. a week from now he’ll be showing you the next best thing and what you just got today is 😵 before it even gets delivered
@exequieldiaz6756
@exequieldiaz6756 10 ай бұрын
Hi there @cheapaudioman , been watching your videos for a while already, learnig a lot and being up to dat with audio stuff. I have a quick question for an opinion....what would be the best pairing for a Topping DX3pro+? This V3, the B20Tpro or the Topping PA3s? Thanks on advance!
@adsph
@adsph Жыл бұрын
Wow. Such high praise. Look forward to hearing others chime in with their thoughts and observation. Well done.
@montynorth3009
@montynorth3009 Жыл бұрын
To drop the tone controls is a big mistake.
@r00s.
@r00s. Жыл бұрын
Randification - The Process of finding a good product for a good price and making the mfrs keep a high quality standard.
@HansHenderson
@HansHenderson Жыл бұрын
Just run off a nice big 48V LFP bank. Turn off its charger if it makes noise. Just for testing of course. Hypex SMPS400A180 Mean Well HLG-600H-54A
@TheDarius1968
@TheDarius1968 Жыл бұрын
Wonder how this would compare to the Emotiva BasX A2 (160 Watt into 8 Ohms), when the right power supply is used?
@guitarguyf16
@guitarguyf16 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely steller review! You never disappoint, thanks man!
@tonim.2823
@tonim.2823 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Is it possible to use one of this to only one speaker?
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman Жыл бұрын
Yes. Just use one channel from the source. Either right or left
@ralphe.thompson5010
@ralphe.thompson5010 Жыл бұрын
i 2nd the comment about C.A.M. getting fosi-douk-ayima to create some great inexpensive class d / 3255 mono blocks.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your suggestion, could you pleasse tell me more details why do you want a mono block?
@johnvanvliet2076
@johnvanvliet2076 4 ай бұрын
I lost 60/70% of my hearing but love music from classical to modern pop but I tried sound bars, a disaster no way to adjust! I want to buy Edifier P17 passive speakers, I read they have a nice sound and look nice as well, with that a Fosi amplifier to adjust the sound to my hearing. What would be the better choice for a Fosi amplifier? I have my PC and laptop hooked up to Fosi working excellent for my hearing issue. The P17 and amp be hooked up to my TV, an LG 44'' older type but has a very nice picture with all sorts of hook ups, very versatile. I want to know what would be the right choice or canoices for a amplifier for around $100/150 ??? An 81-year-old senior. PS I love your show lots of good stuff!!!!!!
@scottbaylor6215
@scottbaylor6215 Жыл бұрын
Awesome product and review. Keep up the good work. 🤘🏼🎸🤘🏼
@louise_8546
@louise_8546 Жыл бұрын
Saw the Douk Audio (I think) double VU meter hooked up, would be good if there was a (decent) spectrum analyser add on out there? (Can you tell I watch Techmoan's videos) :D Don't understand why Chi-fi manufacturers tend to only have one VU meter, when it's supposed to be one per channel. Good to see an amplifier *without* Bluetooth for a change!
@stripecooke4254
@stripecooke4254 Жыл бұрын
hey Randy. I bought the V3 on your recommendation. which op amp chip would improve it? please do a segment about that. i got the 48v power supply. thanks B
@ProfessorHamer
@ProfessorHamer Жыл бұрын
Btw, the Topping PA5 is balanced input only, with an explicit mention in the manual to not use adaptors, so please can you compare using a dac featuring both rca and balanced outputs (such as the Topping E50), thanks
@glennwassermann6972
@glennwassermann6972 10 ай бұрын
Randy...beautifully done. Question...I need 2 inputs. How do I use the V3 with 2 sources? Thanx very much for your counsel.
@paulyates1415
@paulyates1415 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for good video - I agree with your overview - i have a pair of v3's into b&w 684 S1 one for tweeters one for bass/mid - very detailed, good soundstage but can be a bit brash at times. source si Allo Boss DAC on raspberry Pi3 using IFI psu - budget clarity for flac files.
@Eron55555
@Eron55555 Жыл бұрын
Alright Randy, that's it.. Please do a comparison shootout of these CHIFi/RSL/Class D vs. Affordable Class A/B Emotiva A2M, Cambridge, ect amps of the world...
@Trev1916
@Trev1916 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and the discount code. Just bought one myself 😊
@TheTeddyboy46
@TheTeddyboy46 7 ай бұрын
I have watched reviews on this amp . It seems some people have the belief they need 48v power supply. I am using the 32 v and it is great. But I am driving kef Q100s and it is plent loud.
@MindFreeWay
@MindFreeWay Жыл бұрын
Hi Randi. I was planning to get the AIYIMA A07 Pro as I would like 5.2 bluetooth connectivity But after watching this I'm heavily leaning to get one of these and adding a 1Mii bluetooth transmitter /receiver (ml301) I think this combo would be cheaper and have a higher quality amp. what do you think ? The plan is to power it from eather 1 or two Ryobi 18v batteries when camping to make an awesome camping bluetooth speaker system with a couple of small Bookshelf Speakers .
@andrewdoan1525
@andrewdoan1525 5 ай бұрын
What does it do better than the Sony - STRDH190 ?
@davidbond9138
@davidbond9138 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to review the arylic h50? I was thinking of getting one of these for my living room tv. I didn't think there is anything else in the price range with hdmi arc.
@thepracticalaudiophile
@thepracticalaudiophile Жыл бұрын
I personally saw Fosi Audio helicoptering bundles and bundles of cash in your driveway.😅
@brandonhall4429
@brandonhall4429 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how it compares to the SMSL DA9
@zephapied
@zephapied 4 ай бұрын
Hey :) the for the video! Is there an equal quality Fosi alternative with EQ adjustment?
@RH-nc8uu
@RH-nc8uu Жыл бұрын
They HAVE and have had for a long time a 48 5 as long as you order together with device or by its lonesome. So 48v5a with the v3 is $100-120 and b20a pro is 105-140 with fosi 48v5a
@shawnm1856
@shawnm1856 Жыл бұрын
Love these but the more expensive they get, the closer they get to what an entry level Sony receiver costs. The receiver gives you 100 clean watts a channel, an FM tuner, preamp, phono stage and BT, remote, tone controls, FM presets.
@jontpt
@jontpt Жыл бұрын
I think if you run this thing with 48v@10a you'd better have a fire extinguisher nearby. A few vent holes top and bottom aren't going to cool it sufficiently.
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
We use the whole case as the heatsink.
@jontpt
@jontpt Жыл бұрын
@@fosiaudio A fan or three might be advisable as well, but I'd be interested in seeing the actual results with this thing is run full bore...
@fosiaudio
@fosiaudio Жыл бұрын
@@jontpt A fan will bring noise.
@jontpt
@jontpt Жыл бұрын
@@fosiaudio A fan will also bring cooling and extended component life. But I would be very interested in seeing actual tests of this unit run at its claimed wattage potential.
@robertendsley8312
@robertendsley8312 Жыл бұрын
I did not hear any comparison to the Aiyima A08 Pro. Would you recommend me replacing my Aiyima A08 Pro with this unit? Does it have the power of the Aiyima A08 Pro? I May however wait until the 48 volt power supply becomes available and more importantly a remote control.
@cheapaudioman
@cheapaudioman Жыл бұрын
Same power ratings. If you like what you have I’d stick with it
@brucewarren692
@brucewarren692 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, thanks for the content. Can the V3 be bridge and used as a mono power amp to drive larger speakers? Really interested in these small class D’s.
@patrickjwebb
@patrickjwebb Жыл бұрын
I love that jam at the beginning with the wah guitar! What track is that?
@brianberes
@brianberes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review and honest thoughts on this amp. I went ahead a few weeks ago and decided to purchase this amp based on your comment during another video you made back not too long ago when you mentioned Fosi was crowd funding a new version of a upgraded amp based on the same Txi chip set as thier Pro amp but with upgraded parts. I'm going to use it to power a set of PSB CS1000 outdoor speakers that aren't terribly efficient with a sensitivity of only 88db but they sound warm and punchy. I also have the Wiim Pro I'm going to use as sort of a preamp to remotely adjust volume along with music streaming along with Geshelli J2 Dac. What do you think this V3 amp will sound like with the Jeshelli J2 Dac? Anyways thank you for all you do for us lower income audiophiles.
@brianberes
@brianberes Жыл бұрын
@Cheapaudioman---.... Hey Randy! I appreciate all you do for us audio enthusiasts that don't have deep pockets and endless amounts of cash for our audio interest.
@ioan_jivan
@ioan_jivan 6 ай бұрын
Would this pair well with a set of Wharfedale 12.1? The speakers are about 250$ in my country so I would like a budget setup. Someone said (for another wharfedale speaker set) that the Ayiama 07 pairs better
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