great post and thanks for clarifying, I could not go into detailed comparisons for each and every alternative, or we would be here for hours, but I appreciate you chiming in with some meat on the bone.

Tout dépend de ce que vous jouez avec votre clavier, l'important est d'obtenir les styles et sonorités à sa convenance. Il y a le YEM pour importer de nouveaux kits de batterie plus ''pros'' et de nouvelles sonorités. Bonne continuation à vous.

⁠@ Merci ! But what is a “YEL”?

hello My name is; Reuben I am in India I like music very much But I couldn't buy even a musical instrument because I didn't have enough income so I couldn't buy it Please do whatever you can to help I have yamaha genos 1 I humbly ask God to help me to buy it. Thank you Amen praise the lord I am working but I am not able to manage the salary as I am the only one in the family That is why

​@@camilleotrakjij'ai rectifié ''le YEM''🎹👍

so do I. This one does dangle that carrot so to speak....

PSR9000 sounds even better IMHO: there is a purity to the sounds that you lose in the latter yamaha keyboards , likely due to overprocessing things to OTT levels- the guitars especailly sound too "digital" tather than "analogue". Also the newer PSR's (PSR-s9XX, PSR-SX7XX) LARGELY replicate the 9000 so you can actually recreate most of the new stuff on the older keyboard: I use a 9000pro which additionally accepts PLG boards like MOTIFs, saves me a lot of money already.

thanks for the motivating comment, and congrats on your pickups, nice combo!

great tp get some insights from owner of G1 and SX600, very valuable for our community, thanks

I also own a sx 600 , its a great keyboard. I also use it in church. The weakest feature is the key action , but I really love all the other things.

I agree because it has a lot from Genos and great sound quality.

smart move, well done for resisting the GAS, hope to join you with a 600 one day!

​@@WoodyPianoShackНе забудьте звернути увагу на те, що на відміну від SX700/900, - SX600 має вбудований USB MIDI audio interface. Про це мало говорять в різних оглядах але, дана опція - великий + , підключаєш SX600 без додаткових кабелів, тільки через USB MIDI audio, до комп'ютера і маєш прямий доступ до звуків різних інструментів. Ліва рука грає акомпанемент, а права любий звук VST. Це - SUPER .

haha. thank your wife for her much needed encouragement! the sx900 is a blast, have fun if you get one! the 3000 is quite a classic well regarded arranger I hear.

You will be happy with the sx900 watch my latest video

yeah, i think you make a great point, it's been a steady path of evolution rather than anything truly revolutionary!

that's the secret to the i3! the i3 does lack some buttons for real fluid performances though, if you are used to yamaha, check carefully.

really enjoyed my 970 and watching my old footage surprised how good it still sounds, i like your plan!

so kind of you to say so, wow!

good point on the comparative costs, and yes, hope to feature some of the contenders in not to distant future

That's great to hear - and thanks for shining a light on the (to me fascinating) arranger keyboard scene. You take it seriously, but always with a light touch!

thanks for the nice comment, yeah will definitely do my best to cover some korg arrangers.

s970 sx900, 600 whatever! learn the instrument, practice and you can make equally great music on them all! congrats on your 900 and thanks for the great comment.

@@WoodyPianoShack Hi Woody! Thank you for the congratulations! It’s always a pleasure getting a reply from you mate. Cheers!

brilliant comment ronald, love it, thnks!

glad to hear that and massive congrats!

I have the s970 and even though I like it wish I could afford the genos 2. You did well . Enjoy .

thank you for the nice comment, and yes the ketron is on my radar, not about to drop that kind of money on it though just for purposes of making a video, but if ketron happen to read this...

thank you for the recommendations, after doing some more research the Pa1000 also looks interesting, and if I am not mistaken it's purple! take my money!

@@WoodyPianoShack it's not purple, it's a dark 'brick red.' 😝😂

@@WoodyPianoShack and I think the Pa1000 is the cheapest Arranger keyboard with Aftertouch.

could not agree more!

tbanks and congrats on your G1! maybe doesn't even make sense for my to keep and own keyboards, as there ia always new stuff coming in for review and don't have room or time for it all!

thanks, agreed on first point!

yeah it's a lot of fun, it lacks a lot of the features andhands on controls, but is fun and sounds good, with practice you can achieve good results!

no idea, these are ancient vga monitors, years ago.

thanks for the suggestion, i have no opportunity to get one of those, sadly.

well spotted, I generally hate branding and large logos for these reasons, but good luck finding a decent unbranded stand!

happy to hear that, congrats, nothing planned, but keeping my eyes open for one

I got to try that in a store and it does look powerful, easy to use and affordable. The sound quality does sound like a "Casio" tho and the styles don't transition smoothly between variations unlike Yamaha.

thanks for the recommendation, but no have never seen or tried the casio arrangers.

@@WoodyPianoShack Its once in a blue moon casio produce arrangers sadly, when they do, the are only on sale for a limited time. One very old one is the Casio MZ 2000. which would be around the days of PSR9000 ( before the tyros 1)

@@WoodyPianoShack The MZ-X500 had a lot of programmability with a 16 track midi sequencer, pattern recorder, hex layer programs, sampling, and the ability to make your own styles from midi files. The current Casio arrangers don't seem to have a much flexibility. Thanks for the reply. I enjoy your content.

@@v3xman I have only seen demos on KZfaq and have never seen one live. Thanks for the info and the reply.

no, i have never played the 3000. can you find a used genos 1, there should be plenty of trade-ins in the music stores? that is what i would recommend over the SX series. i don't have hands-on on the 600 or 700. i don't know if you can import your 3000 regs.

thx for the suggest, still toying with the idea of that video, but the result might just be that i make the i3 sound bad in comparison, or make the g2 seem overpriced, and i don't really want to drag either instrument through the dirt, they are both great in their own right...

hey there, and same to you, thanks

515 is superb, good enough for very advanced players I would think, so smart decision by you. good luck!

Thanks Woody. I don't think its vulgar to talk money, it's very important. Another reason I didn't upgrade was the kawai dealer was only offering me £400 p/x for my p515 for the CA 701. I thought f##k that!

thank you ron, always keeping an eye out for new/used gear to buy!

haha, enjoyed your last point, it's sad but true.

you will have to dig out some of my old psr vids, although i am republishing some of the old performances so stay tuned, so glad you liked it

I've GOT it ! 🙏 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fphoqaypv96-imw.htmlsi=IIxlsJrdFx0qtWM9 🎹😄

ph wpw, no, thank YOU! glad you found the video useful.

yep, i second all that, and congrats on your 700, have a blast!

thanks for the suggest, you are right i should really dip into the really affordable keyborads, would love to do it. i will keep my eyes open,

oh yeah, that thing keep you busy and a lot of enjoyment for years.

The MODX is a very different beast for a different kind of user... more of a baby Montage than a baby Genos.

The Medeli AKX10 is NOT "a clone of the SX700 at half the price" - not even close.

I meant that it was meant to be ... the hardware is a step above the SX700 (Which I used for 4 years). But I agree that the quality of the voices and the styles is inferior to Yamaha's @@gb3496

The Medeli is a generic Kurzweil, not Yamaha - you get the hardware of the Kurz, but lesser (IMO) sounds and patterns.

Please don't spread misinformation. Medeli is Hongkong based company. Manufacturer of so called OEM keyboards that any company can licence (various no-name brands, Roland's and Kurzweil's home arrangers). If there's a "Kurzweil" or "Roland" based on the generic you're probably going to find the exact model from Medeli for 50$ less. They also sale instruments with their own Brand. They also manufacture K6 keybed for mid range Kurzweil's pianos (the same construction as Medeli SP-4200) however they have Kurzweil's software onboard (i.e. Kurzweil SP6 piano). As for Medeli vs Yamaha - Medeli lost in the past court rulings against Yamaha for the infringement of Yamaha's databank. Please do some research and use reason when picking your keyboard/future piano to know what is genuine product made by the brand and what is rebrand of OEM or cheaper but lesser rip-off. Usually the comments on the forums or below videos will tell you, in case of rebrands will give you exact oem model.

@@dwsel I only mentioned the Medeli AKX10 because it has a very similar layout and set of features (plus a few more) compared to my Yamaha SX700 … I did not comment on the company that makes it or on the quality of the sounds

bring on that solid weight, perfect for the studio or home. well, after G2 every other flagship keyboard looks like a steal so that is unexpected benefit!

i loved the technics arrangers of the 90s, i remember ordering a demo CD that was a cover of the entire tubular bells album!

you rock! just a couple more bucks to go... seriously, you are a cool guy!

⁠@@WoodyPianoShackthey say it takes at least six tries to get a sale on a cold call…. We shall see how long it takes. I am good for a couple more tries….

yep, that is a firm favorite of mine, good observation, wouldn't mind picking up the very latest of that line, the 975.

@@WoodyPianoShack a few years ago, and after watching ALL your massively entertaining and talented videos on the 970, I bought the 975. and I love it.

ex50 is same as my i3 i do believe, yeah lot of fun for the money

@@WoodyPianoShack The i3 is nice as well yet I wanted built in speakers. The full size keys as the great ergonomics/UI made me decide on the EK50 instead of PSR-473 (great if connected to a computer, nice keyboard as well).

good shout out, thanks for the suggest, will def consider

hi. get a pair of quality powered Yamaha active PA speakers, 12" woofers and put them up on stands!

active pa speakers or active studio monitors,, depends on how you use them

What is the great benefit to the chord looper. Is there an external box for that?

@@cinepost usually you’d have a style running for the chord looper, play in your chord sequence once and set it to loop, then you’ve got both hands free for say a solo using the pitch bend or to play another keyboard. A looper pedal would capture the audio of that but that’s not quite the same, with the chord looper you can vary the style on the fly, etc. it’s a useful thing to have!

@@PhilW222 so it’s sorta like having four hands!

@@PhilW222 I need to get a Yamaha arranger, my playing skills are limited. Would I do better without getting bored to just get an sx600 for a while, then upgrade to an SX900? What would you do?

@@cinepost I'd say it's more like it's covering your left hand which frees that up to do other things while the chord loop is playing, so maybe three hands would be more accurate 😉

definitely not, there are hardware and software upgrades, and yamaha won't be offering the software upgrades to G1, is my assumption.

I thought that. But they are offering a motherboard upgrade for the MODX boards to a p,us version. A place called Syntar in the USA is selling the boards for $300 USD. If one has knowledge enough to install correctly or have a tech that will do?@@WoodyPianoShack

totally agree with that!

yes, g1 is super impressive in the right hands. i3 sounds good but a little limited in the front panel controls for easy performances tbh.

well said, fully agree, thx for the comment

Hi all, Last year I upgraded from Casio CTX 3000 to Yamaha PSR SX700. I had the Casio CTX-3000 for 3 years. The Casio CTX-3000 is just 350 US$, at a different price level than a Yamaha PRS700 (1500 US$). So you could buy 16 times the Casio CTX-3000 for a Genos 2. Here is my personal review on these models. On the lower price range the Casio CTX-3000 is better, compared to the entry level Yamaha models like the PSR E-463. Within this price range the Casio has much better sounds and styles, but also much better perceived build quality for that money. Personally I used the Casio CTX-3000 to find out if playing a keyboard was something for me. I basically needed something with headphones, because the children got very tired of my daily practicing on the piano. It turned out it was addictive with the keyboard and I played daily.... The CTX-3000 has a lot of features, 4 variations per style, 4 layered voices, finger-on-bass etc. However its biggest problem is the operating system and small user community. The operating system is quite good for normal playing, but it is really bad for a bit more advanced features. The Casio has plenty styles, but after 3 years I had heard them all. The Casio player community is also very small compared to Yamaha. In the forums people were often asking for conversions of Yamaha styles. But few people could do this, and the result were typically mediocre. The Casio CTX-3000 still beats the Yamaha PSR SX700 on piano sounds, especially the electric pianos. The built-in synth sounds are kind of nicer than the Yamaha SX700. I can really recommend a Casio CTX-3000 if you are on a budget and want to try playing a keyboard like I did. It is a lot of fun for the money. Thanks to the Casio I got the hang of music. The Yamaha PSR SX700 is at a completely different level than the Casio CTX-3000. For as home amateur player, the operating system and touch screen are killer features. Also the ability to play directly from USB drives make it so much easier to play with new styles, MIDI files and so on. No need for clumsy software to transfer files. I never have to read any manual, like in the Casio CTX-3000. The build-in styles are also better polished than the Casio styles. The keys feels better and I do not hear them while playing. I did not yet discover the countless possibilities and combinations that I can do with the PSR SX 700, still experimenting every day. Some of you may think about the Medeli AX10 or other models. These keyboards may be good, but what is setting Yamaha apart from other brands is its large community of players. It is possible download thousands of styles from the Internet. Some are quite good. There are so many good tutorials and information channels on Yamaha, like Woody's great channel. Thanks to Woody I am do not feel bad about cheese. In fact I am a proud player of cheesy music.

Ok have a word with me

you can create midi files in DAW and convert to styles, yes.

i think this is a very niche product, as I have never heard of it, sorry, my bad i know!

@@WoodyPianoShack I’m surprised. It’s not that niche. It is made by ASM, the folks who make Hydrasynth, and borrows sounds from Yamaha under some agreement or at least that’s what I’ve heard. Works very much like the SX900 too and you can even convert Yamaha styles to it. Costs $700-$800 new.

I have this keyboard as well and got it for under a $1000 CDN. Yes you can convert Yamaha styles for it as well as Korg styles if you have the patience. It's comparable to the SX 700.

@@kokopelli314 are there lots of Styles that already exist? That is the great thing about the Yamaha PSR keyboards, tons of styles. Do you wish you had a Yamaha? That you can buy.

@@cinepost If it had all of the features that my medelli does and it were a little bit cheaper yeah I would trade it, just for the name

Keep the 4x the 5x will do your head in ! Wanted it so to work with the 88 but it’s not intuitive it’ll take 6 months to get around it I gave up ! All the work for a little increase in quality. Primarily the main thing for me was shift audio isn’t tv helicon and it’s not good. Maybe in a years time if they keep working on it but fir now no thanks!

See my article above

iäm working on it, thanks for the suggestion

it's ok. you got plenty to keep u busy until then!

yeah, that's a product line that has not interested me personally, so passed me by, but I agree a good contender and they look pretty good value. best of all worlds

Right! I have the dgx 670 and it is the best of both worlds. Good value.

well yeah! if you got the space, that would be quite fun!

i have tried blender, but nothing i use on the channel. why?

i was watching your dexed vst video with a rocket space , fought you made this animation, "my dexed song". Just curious, nothing else😃

not familiar with those, perhaps because more of a digital piano category? thanks for bringing it up.

very poor availability, never come across one. stick with korg or yamaha imho.

but remember the imported styles will sound junk of the casio is lacking the exact same sounds and effects of the original yamaha.

uber cool, i did mention it and am trying to get hold of one!

good call, that piano/arranger range has passed me by

don't do that, you could swap it for 10 i3s, imagine that keyboard rack!

@@WoodyPianoShack Lol ok i wont ..