Well, no...they dont. But the law still stands behind the citizens...so if you want to produce power and send it back into the grid, you will likely get paid. What they want is one thing...what the law says is another. Fortunately....the law still has some traction. For now.......

Not particularly, no. The power plants are necessary to support a city, as well as the industrial arcology of a nation.

No one is disputing that, Wesley!

Sometimes it's an advantage to the power company for you to generate and use your own power, and even supply electricity back to the grid. Why? Because as energy use increases with the population, the energy company will need to build new power stations. This is a significant cost to them. If it can be avoided, they will actually make more money. Power stations will always be needed as consumer power usage doesn't stop when the sun goes down. If you add batteries to a home solar setup, the payback time is significantly longer. For some it won't be economically viable. But, if fossil fuel prices continue to rise and the cost of solar panel and battery manufacture continues to fall, generating your own power will become the norm. If you "officially" supply power back to the grid rather than just run your meter backwards, you are likely to be paid more for the electricity than you are charged for using theirs.

I'm a Power Lineman and I can tell you people run their own generators and sell excess power back to the Utilities all the time.

bullshit

+Randomsongs actually if you have enough power going into to your house the left over goes back into the power lines and yes the power company has to pay you for that electricity you put into their lines. It was due to a law passed in the 80s requiring power companies to pay you for electricity you made. Most often it is wind generators that cause the power companies to pay out not solar panels though.

+Todd Stanley å

+Randomsongs ... that moment you show to all internet, how huge is your ignorance! God bless it... :)

A few panels powering an entire house? Right.

Lol 🤣🤣

I'm told that I am still paying to have Hot water but do without to pay the Bill. They are still charging me ,so how can I have hot water.

LOL!!!!!

Now this is a solution, more than just thrashing on others ideas. Good setup you've got..

I am very interested in solar as i don't intend to use a lot of power anyways. basic lighting and some minimal cooking mixed with maybe some alternative heating. Maybe you will send a link for those specific panels or make a video that explains your system. That would be helpful.

Can you please email how to set up this solar power so i can uae it for my own home.my email is janetcanary2008@yahoo.com.i want to know how to set the solar panels up so they can charge up a car type battery that i can then attach to my electric to power my home.or exactly the way your powering your home with your solar panels.thanku

Now this is awesome i love your setup wish i could do this for my house

"your bad" for assuming he was going to show an illegal way to do it *shrug*

His title gets more clicks. It's called.......wait for it.... MARKETING 🤷‍♂️ lol

I heard that they mad efficient solar panels many years ago but were deemed as a national security threat and limited it to 20% don't know how true jt is but if it is that's bs lol

Yeah, if you generate more power thany you use, you get refunded.

Correct, my meter runs backwards when I'm not using power and slows down if I'm using it and at night goes forward, I don't know why he thinks this iis a big deal. Go solar

Tom Ram do an experiment with your meter. The disk will turn backwards but do the dials (which is what is read for billing) also spin backwards. Depending on the meter some old ones will. Others stay still. Newer ones will still go forward and you pay for giving the electric company power.

Tj Smith There is a ratchet mechanism in newer mechanical meter that stops the meter going back, you would even see a little ratchet on the face of the mater. It’s the same in electronic meters. The dials would go back yes if the disc can go back

Larkin Huey.....one thing though your not paying them, their stupid charges, price hikes....so worth it

solar panels never "wear out" if they get broken you just solder them back together and they begin generating current again. you can even make solar panels out of multiple types of broken chips and glue them on plywood and they will work.. I have made many. the grid tie inverter is the most expensive and part that needs repairs most of the time..

Uh wrong. The payback period on a solar panel system is about 5 to 7 years, and the panels last about 20 years. So the panels will be producing power for 12 years at no cost before they need to be replaced. You just have to live in an area where you get enough sunlight.

no shit? Well hell, maybe solar isn't so bad after all.

Yea, solar technology is getting better every year. When solar first came out the return wasn't worth it. But, anything you buy that's new should be worth it.

+d34thr3b0rn1 I heard they passed a law so they didn't have to buy back the excess power now, but they also won't allow you to disconnect from the grid. So they basically are getting your excess power for free, then charge others for it at regular rates.

Not that I have heard. You can go off grid if you wish here. They cant force you to use their meter's. but then again government is corrupt and you never know whats what

I was told years ago that the electric company doesn't have to buy the power back from you it's an option and they don't have to do it but I don't know if that's true

@@0annonymous We all need to start producing our own power and put these criminal corporations out of business!

Why couldn't we just stop paying them, let them come out and disconnect us, then put in our own little solar system and hook it up to the breaker? I did that once with a generator.

Yes and no. You probably won't be able to tie in to the grid. You can save yourself some money if you have your own meter, however. You can make a small battery system and power that directly, and come up with a way to run power in (not too hard if you have a balcony with sun exposure: leave batteries out there for ventilation purposes) that is only solar-sourced. You won't be able to drive much but it should be within your ability to capture enough to power, for instance, a TV and a laptop computer for several hours every evening.

We were making good progress on this back in the early 50's until the government clampdown.

Wow! Obviously, you are still living the 'American dream!' The rest of the world is not. Electiricity prices are being hiked up experientially everywhere else.

Tom Hoehler prices for hydro on vancouver island are dirt cheap compared to prices in alberta. If the housing was built the same as it is in alberta there would be even less heat loss or gain (depending on the season). Also I have heard there will be a coming cold trend for our planet and this may force better built homes anyways. Hopefully.

If everyone could get free electricity from the power plant why would anyone build one. And how would the plant pay for maintenance, labor and fuel.

suckmyassloser The money that Congress gets for insurance and their own retirement would pay for that. They don't need special treatment.

As a former generation supervisor, lead CRO...I can't believe how people blow money on this stuff...the economics don't add up

I pay 780 lease payment to save my self about 1400 a year.

No idiot the power company paid for half. Of course it’s going to pay for itself over time

simple just put two magnets 🧲

Drone On lol you live at home don't you?? a thousand dollars is like 10 or 11 months of an electric bill. so what that means is after ten months he is saving 100 every month. HOLD ON NOW THERE'S MORE TO THIS. now keep up little buddh I know your mind is about half blown but check this out, after ten months he is making a profit. he gets to keep that 100 dollars that would have went to the electric bill. now go on about your stupid day ya fuckin dumbass

Yep. Only an idiot would pay $30,000 to get solar installed. It would never pay for it's self.

What do you think it cost to install that $100?

cooldog60 lol you're stupid

Robert Kittinger Sounds like you are the stupid one.

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+Bilbo Baggins That method works too, with "How to make a simple wireless?": Take a piece of carton, put two pieces of wires onto it; then take one wire away and you got a ..."wireless"!

+Bilbo Baggins lol, jokes aside, the wires that come into the house are no joke, and require bolt cutters ;)

+Bilbo Baggins "power companies hate this trick" XD

Yes, but the solar panel setup will set you back, too! - Did you do your Math to work out how much you'll really save in say 10 years? (I heard, the panels last only about 10 years.)

Nah yours is different

Nope it the same . But it is the poor saps identity info as a secondary redundant credit source

Jonny B

What dude

Why would you say that? now everyone has your name and social security number jack ass. And people wonder how their identity was stolen. Lol! Idiot

total... 17k

+EQDruid How many years did It take you to recoup that 17K?

+Bushidobull saved about 300 a month in bills... so 4 years give or take. 30 year life span on solar panels.

You can get a newer solar system now on www.owntheswitch.com/solar247 for less

that website is a scam. BEWARE!!!

GoldViolinFlutist Yes

GoldViolinFlutist To an extent yes, as in they will only ever credit your account and will never pay you a dollar amount but solar power to do that is very expensive. It is very unlikely one would be able to live off the electric companies grid but you can greatly reduce your bill if you're willing to fork out the money. $20,000-$30,000 will take several years to earn back.

TheGreatestKevlar huh? In about 4 -5 years it can pay for itself. you dont have to spend anything close to 20k lol. oh they will credit your account for overage you put back into the grid. actual check? not sure on that. there's more people off grid now that solar is getting cheaper to set up and even some places wind power is practical too!

TheGreatestKevlar b

+TheGreatestKevlar solar has become very cheap my whole set up was less than 5 k I do receive a monthly check for the power I push back into the grid it's not much but I make my own power and receive a check every month for between 300 to 500 bucks depending.

+Marc Seguin your dont think power companies are monopolies ?? you dnt think they fkk us over because they know how DEPENDENT we are on electricity AND THEREFORE charge a ridiculous amount of money that the majority of Families see as excessive, you NOT ONLY dont say ANYTHING about that but argue fight n stik up for the monopolies that make the c.e.o.'s and executives filthy rich off of your n mine hard earned money. and you throw in there if you impede them from takin your- i mean charging you soo much, you are now subject to a potential trip to a FEDERAL PENITENTERY ... wow..yet you argue in favor of these monopolies that have a strangle hold on us and other companies that could bring competition meaning LOWER COST for this service...all i can say is ....wooooow

Marc Seguin im willing to bet you've also fallen victim to the need to abide by any laws placed in front of you like the little child you've grown into. each person in this country has the RIGHT to have his own means of security and stability. they do not have the RIGHT to force ANY U.S. CITIZEN to buy any PRODUCT OR SERVICE that she/he doesn't want to. it is LAW that if the power company is receiving power from a residential or commercial source, they have to pay for it. when you hook he solar panels up, power goes through your house and any excess is sent to the power company. its not free anything, its not STEALING ya fucking moron! get your facts straight, you democratic shit.

Marc Seguin oh and another thing, if you truly think politics is bullshit, then explain how they have an effect on almost every aspect of your PRIVILEDGE to be in this country where you have your life handed to you?

Ronboy Woodley ok fuck face... I don't vote!! and I don't have my life handed to me....what ever that means? I work like everyone else....and make good $$. to pay my bills every month ....and if you think that I follow all the laws.....you are sadly mistaken! like I said.. its assholes like this guy who make the electric rates go up...by stealing! read up on it sometime!! ,,cause I guess you are a repube-licken!..

nope. not republican! never will be! TEA PARTY RIGHT HERE! i stand by the constitution okay? I just cant stand the democratic party because they are practically enslaving people and they are following blindly just as Hitler convinced 6 million people do so (without fighting back, i might add..) and its not stealing for the last time! its called being paid for the energy that you save...youre giving back to the companies that steal from YOU. i don give any of my paycheck to the greedy companies that jack up the prices at their own accord. they dont care about you or how you live your life. they just want money. and who boasts about not following laws? dumbass..just by living in this country, you have been presented with limitless opportunities and options, so why succumb to these companies that only want one thing from you? im only trying to educate other citizens (like yourself) of the reality of the situation. 23 years in the USMC didnt make me as smart as i am for nothing.

Could you put what you wrote there in English? It sounds interesting, but I'm the kind that's lucky they don't blow something up turning it on! :)

Steve Dogan Power company turns off power to a powerline, your house still feeds its own power into it. Maintaince guy thinks the powerline is safe to work on and gets electrocuted. It isnt that difficult to understand what he is saying

Not difficult for some, but as I said, I'm the kind that's lucky they don't blow a fuse changing a bulb. :)

Power companies pay for the power you feed back into the line. Or people use the power company as a battery. This set up is quite typical. Amd electricians generally dont ground themselves or turn of the neighborhoods power when working on power lines. The only time I turn off the power is when im home barefoot. Or when im looking at a mess I cant quite make out. Otherwise electricity doesn't just flow though you. You have to complete a connection. Try it. Grab a hot wire in the house( make sure you have rubber soles on and aren't touching anything else) guarantee you will not get zapped.

Cliff Charpentier Why the rubber soles then? I always thought that was a myth anyway. We were always told the thing on the farm about touching the fence with rubber soles on won't give you a shock. (Granted everyone's heard the story of not getting hit by lightning with rubber soles either. Correct me if I'm wrong but 1/4" of rubber is not going to stop a bolt with enough power to, as I was told by the physics H.S. teacher years back, light up N.Y.C. for about a month -especially on soaked ground.) But then Pa would always get mad if we put anything against the wire, like a stick, because he said he current would run through the wood stick in the ground and the fence wouldn't be charged. Don't those 2 things contradict each other? How does an electric pasture fence work when there's only 1 wire to touch anyway? Wouldn't there have to be 2 wires that were connected to the box inside that ran the fence?

if you where paying attention he has solar panels and a second meter hook up selling what extra power he is not using to the power company with one meter showing what he has made and one showing what he had used

Right, got it! Thanks for putting me straight on that one.

if my funds get a little better along with my moms im considering getting solar panels mounted to my moms house due to obama's plans my local utility company is raising its rates by 14 dollars a month in September 2015 unless that gets rejected over this gloal warming/climate change scam

kamran obviously you as slow as rusty, never mind perhaps it will click soon?

I'm fast enough to recognise when I've got the wrong end of the stick and unlike most people who comment on youtube I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. Insulting me because I made an honest mistake like Anni Macca has done shows us how unforgiving people are to mistakes and what immature actions they are willing to participate in just to make themselves feel better. Anni Macca either isn't old enough to participate in adult debate or is REALLY slow in maturing to adult-hood if this is the kind of reaction made. She hasn't even participated earlier in this thread.

GO ECO

it seems we have a bloody DEMOCRAT in our midst, gentlemen!!!

shut up bitch

fuck off kid.

We went from 250 300 dollars a month in the winters and 250 in the summer is to power companies paying me about a hundred bucks every month on average winter time 25. To 50

Tino Detres are u included? Since u visited his video as well!

More like who gives a fuck about your moronic comment. Yes we know about Tesla, probably a bit more than you do. Just because you don't give a "fuck" about free electricity and care more about trying to feel important and boost your ego by quoting some shred of some of Tesla's story, does in no way mean the rest of us are at your level of thinking. Your comment is like someone going to a shuttle launch and saying "who gives a fuck, did you know Chuck Yeager was a test pilot?" as if your input is more important than the actual event. This shows the world how you really are: sociopathic attention whore. Good job.

JP Morgan, and because it cost tons of money to power it.

It wasn't because it cost lots of money to power it. He shut it down because couldn't put a meter on it and making money off of it.

actually its more about no killing everything

It is however common knowledge that "cheating the system (electric co., Gas co., phone co., etc. etc.) is a figure of speech. Been used since the utility companies changed from a service to the monopoly mode. People certainly desrve the right to use this figure of speech while being proud that they, the monopolized utilty co. (which has made millionaires since before the term billionaire did not even exist). You do understand that they , have to buy back the excess juice you produce right? Saying we are cheating them, when we are finally getting some justice as opposed to say driving your manure spreader to their office and giving them a barricade of shit to get in and out of the place through is a well desrved and common right to the people everywhere. Your views, and knowledge are not everyone's. Maybe climb up your bosses as instead of look for things this petty on yt to try and set someone straight. You don't know quite everything.

Rampant7990 I never claimed to know everything. I've never heard the phrase "cheat the system," though the similar "beat the system" is both very common and much more applicable in this case, without carrying the implication of wrongdoing. Whether the utility is required to purchase a producer's excess power is up for some debate. You are not required to purchase the power they provide, I believe that that deniability must go both ways. The rest of your message is just errant foolishness. You ascribe philosophies to me that I neither espouse nor support. As to the baloney regarding the manure spreader, what you do with your manure spreader is your choice. If you are at all dissatisfied with the utility's product or pricing, you know what to do: disconnect and do better for yourself. THAT's freedom and a common right to everyone. Think twice before making foolish comments. Say something stupid and I will call you on it.

elhigh Cheating the system, beating the system are pretty much the same in this particular sense, however, cheating on a game is not the same as beating a game. I personally call this, "pay backs" in all of it's literal meaning.

so i can get PAID by the electric Co. by producing my own power and feeding it backwards through the power cables attached to my house? FUCK YEAH

***** Got an email saying "police yourself" and I was like what? Then I realized you are probably talking to MrEvilpeopledotco and thought, dang right, what he said, lol.

corporate america is a crime.

He's using solar and putting energy into the grid. Therefore the meter is spinning backwards.

Pilot924 yeh that i know he is trying to make you think he is cheating but he is not lol

Troy Nall What do you suggest? If it were not for corporate America then there would be no jobs. Fool!

Free enterprise is the key to America, not mega conglomerates/corporations. When a company eliminates it's competitors then its bad for everyone(nation and citizen). Why ? Because they(corporations) can set prices at whatever they(the company) wants and no one can compete against them. One word - Ma Bell. The key(to a great company) is to be able to set a reasonable and fair price for a quality product. Greed and gluttony is not the answer. If more people would stop and think about what they are buying RATHER than just settling for whats at the moment OR have their purchasing terms dictated by a CREDIT SCORE. just saying.

BEERSENBERG. 100 amps should be fine.

EQDruid does that mean class100 kwh meter?

+jaded16340 It's kinda like the biodiesel thing. I had a diesel powered truck, a fuel oil furnace in my shop, a fuel oil space heater in the basement and was planning on building a boiler assist system to heat the house. I built a 4 stage biodiesel processor and could make about 45 gallons per night if I had the oil, the methanol and the lye. The cost of electricity to process it was pretty negligible so we're talking pennies here. The problem was suddenly bars and restaurants that used to be happy that I was taking the oil they were having to pay for got greedy and started wanting to charge me for the privilege of scooping the nasty shit from their grease bin. In order to get 40+ gallons of oil per day I would have to use most of what I was processing to travel all over town to get the oil to make the biodiesel so I could use most of it up getting the oil etc. The system was cheap, about 500 bucks, but pretty labor intensive. NEXT the state started going have BD home brewers because they were not paying the road tax they'd be paying had they been buying their fuel out of the pump. I was already barely breaking even on cost, working my ass off and now they're going to fine me for trying to save a buck? Eff that! The moral of the story is, there's just not beating the system. If you sell juice back to the power company it's income and you have to pay taxes on it. Solar panels don't last all that long and are pretty damn expensive. Biodiesel is a huge pain in the ass and a huge mess to process, the oil is getting hard to get in quantities necessary to bother with and you're going to use a lot of fuel collecting the oil. It's like trying to make a living collecting scrap. The cost of scrap metal is so low you're going to pay to haul it in. There is no beating the system in reality. Just be efficient, watch your bill for overcharges and deal with it.

+jaded16340 The other intended consequence of biodiesel they're mowing down the rain forests to plant palm oil plants. The plants totally deplete the soil so nothing will grow there for a long time and without the rain forests we won't have oxygen. So BD really only works as a "green energy" if you're using USED oil. Ethanol is another scam. The corn farmers make more selling it for ethanol production than the food makers can pay so the cost of food has gone up. Darn near everything we eat either has corn in it or is used in it's production. And then the pricks "denature" it by adding a little gas so you can't even buy your vodka at the pump! Rotten bastards! LOL Actually that is why they do that. There's no lead in gas anymore so there's no purpose for the gas in the ethanol other than to make it un-drinkable.

Get a house with half of that square footage. Waste of space unless you got 6 people in family