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EA and Respawn killed Apex Legends.

Y'all let cheaters ruin Titanfall, now they've come for you.

Greed also killed Apex, at least with the new battlepass

Calling Hal the "self-proclaimed CEO of Apex" is messed up. The community started calling him that and it stuck

I have around 1300 hours on apex in total on steam. I haven't opened the game in months. That massive cheating scandal and how much the game has dropped in quality over each season. It's nowhere near the as fun as it used to be. It's crazy. And now they are trying to double charge us for the battlepass???? Yea, fuck you EA. Apex, CoD, Battlefield, Overwatch etc, seems like all these juggernaut IP's are dying. It's kinda sad to see but at the same time, completely deserved.

the cheater epidemic is real in online multiplayer gaming. people are cheating in fucking street fighter for some reason

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It's the cheaters, smurfs, and especially microtransactions becoming more prevalent in-game than before. The Iron Crown Collection Event was just the start, and we've since moved into the Final Fantasy event with the $400 death box AND this new Battle Pass system. It's unbelievably exhausting. 😒

We killed titanfall 3 for this

EA makes a statement about doing security updates and no security updates were done

HisWattson has literally had days and days of streams killed, he'll fake queue, hide his queue, and no matter what the same cheater will join on at least one account into that match, where he then targets Wattson and then instantly crashes the server after killing him.

Cheaters are far more worse than what we think. I remember I watched one video about a guy that tells how they sell these cheats for $$$ and how they do it subtly. They purposely target non-streamers because they knew they won't get any attention compared to professional streamers. There's also one guy named HisWattson getting targeted blatantly whenever he streams. It's soo bad that he had to stop streaming for days. Now with the new battlepass system, this could be the last straw of active players they would kill off. It's really sad that it's the only FPS I've been stuck with for years and never have I been in any FPS since CS 1.6. That says a lot how this game has soo much potential but it's owned by EA so.. we probably know what's next in this game.

I also hate how the ranked system works. Like Im a platinum casual player. I really just play for fun, but I always get matched with former Master/Diamond ranked every game. Imagine the skill gap there

You know it’s bad when the score writes a piece about it!!

Been playing this game for 3 years all I have to say is that this is the best fps game made in modern gaming with all of the wrong people developing and controlling it

I have over 8000 hours in Apex 90k kills on my Pathfinder the #1 Pathy of the Netherlands yet I've not touched this game in like 2 months the greed of EA on top of the massive cheater problem is what's killing it.. And it's not looking too good for next season either..

I mean, everyone knows about titanfall, right? The game made by the same people that is also now unplayable on official servers because of hacking?

Apex has perfected the trinity: Bad matchmaking Lack of audio Laggy servers

The game is dying because its fucking garbage and full of cheaters. Not to mention how the game is full of auto-aim assist controller players.

I played Apex Legends seriously from seasons 1 to 3 but after a long break, I returned and uninstalled it within hours. Despite not playing for almost 2 years, I was placed in bronze/rookie lobbies filled with Diamond+ players. This ruins the game for me and others who want their rank to reflect their actual skill level. The hidden MMR system means we secretly have two ranks, and the visible rank doesn't matter. This approach makes it frustrating to return and climb ranks. It's not fun to struggle in mismatched lobbies, and it can drive players away. From a development standpoint, this doesn't help retain the player base.

"did you stop playing for any of these reasons"? Me: "yes"

Apex was never a well taken care of game. How long were hitboxes just straight up broken (pathfinder's hitbox being much smaller than his model for instance), fasle hits where you'd see bloodsplatter, but enemy recieved no damage, how expensive the kunai was (assuming average luck), how long it took to get any updates at all. However people loved it and kept playing it because of the movement and arcade shooter BR feel that no other game had or still has. That shit has just kept increasing and it's reaching a breaking point.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="398">6:38</a> "...the content feels extremely thin these days..." EA: Huh. Let's ask for more money from our players

5k hours in apex - low master, high diamond player, love the game but haven't played for weeks. Pubs are insanely sweaty due to cranked SBMM, havoc is broken, rev/conduit super annoying. Burst gun meta is annoying. I could care less about the monetization, I buy the passes and complete them just because I play a lot anyway. But yeah, the legend and weapon meta sucks, most high elo lobbies have some form of cheating going on, whether full-on cheats, strike packs and XIMs, or just shamelessly teaming. Even solos, which is pubs, has people teaming. The game is just obnoxious to play right now, which is a shame.

It’s just not doing anything new… they’re not innovating like they used to. No new mechanics, constant cheating, riddled with bugs.

Ye we have cheaters on the daily and the devs only respond was raising the BP price to the double I hate EA I love Apex

Season 3 was peak.

Apex has been dying for a long time, lack of content, last couple of battle passes have been shit (copy paste skins), cheaters in every other game, servers randomly kicking you or straight up lagging. They have released more collections and expensive skin bundles than fixing stuff (new skins doesn't equal new content)

My brother has been playing Apex since launch on and off and has really enjoyed it. But with the change to make it more money-grubbing, the hackers, and general problems with balancing, he's uninstalling. He just plays casually make for an hour every couple of nights after his long day job. If a casual like him is done, this is bad for Apex.

Interesting how online only games are made to draw players in and make a huge playerbase that all enjoy the game, but they are the same people who infect them with toxicity, cheating, or tryharding

I feel like it's getting to the point where it feels like playing competitive online games can only be done on console with every game having a major uptick in cheating in all games

i started actually playing season 21, and it caught me off guard to see the amount of micro transactions and the amount of peer grind, it feels like hell

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Cheating is going to get so bad that the only people playing those games are going to be cheaters.

Every game is infested with cheaters nowadays 😢

I played Apex from launch to about a year ago and reached Masters in a couple seasons. Here's my thoughts if anyone cares: - Banning cheaters is meaningless in a free to play game. EA/Respawn are pathetic because they know this and yet either can't or won't develop real solutions to the problem. Warzone is a similar case and while they still have cheaters, at the very least we see them announce meaningful improvements to their anticheat software almost every year at this point. At least we know they're trying somethings - Regarding SBMM, yes it's bad in Apex, but it's partially a result of the game itself not being noob-friendly at all. As an average player most teams you face in-games will be either contain a solo queue God with no job or regard for their mental health, a 3-stack of decent players communicating every movement, or a 3-stack of jobless Gods communicating every movement. That is simply the playerbase this game has fostered, so no you won't find easy games. There are simply none. Especially with all the extra mixtape game modes basically taking all the bad/casual players out of the BR pool anyway - Arenas was actually my favourite mode for a while. Definitely wasn't perfect and the ranked system was especially atrocious, but it was super fun and the endgames got so intense. Of course they neglected all the mode's issues and then removed it because people weren't playing it (wonder why they weren't playing it...). Oh yeah and that awful ranked system? They brought the same one to BR a few seasons later and BR Ranked has been trash ever since. - As far as the new battlepass goes: I don't even know what to say. It's just pathetic at this point - Finally it's important to note that so many of the original devs that made the game great have left Respawn to do other things. The Respawn Entertainment that passionately brought the game to life in the first place is literally gone and replaced by some EBITDA slaves. Time to find something else to play Apex fans

I have to be under a rock, because I never thought some one is grinding this game for real nowadays 😅

TF2 been there longer and survived during that epidemic. You have hope.

this franchise is well knowed for 3 things: 1- they hackers that RUIN the game and turns unplayable 2- they input system dramas 3- they greedy publisher that ruins everything everytime ... and also by the most ambicious movement in game industry, and hot female chraracters

There is just literally no content and they haven't innovated for many seasons now. Every season is starting to feel the same without significant changes to the game modes.

Cheaters weren't the only culprits. It was also whoever had the bright idea of making everything a microtransaction now.

Apex got a real taste of titanfall treatment

I will never understand how ppl will still defend aim assist when there are literal stats from R5 that shows roller players hit significantly more shots than MnK. ive seen Timmy lose 1v1s against average players in a pure aim duel because the opponent has an AI aiming for them with 0ms reaction time. Ive played both roller and MnK btw, unless you picked up MnK yourself, the average roller player have no idea how much microadjustments is being helped by AI. This is what we call "controller brain" on top of that there are 20 more reasons why this game is dying because of a dogshit company.

Dont worry, "Gamers" talk very much but never get the balls to quit a game, doesnt matter how Bad the game is or that they need to buy a battle pass every time xD

Cheaters have ruined almost any game out there...especially first person shooters... and if you know anything about human behavior, greed and the tech behind cheating... it's only going to get worse

Remember when apex main issue is debating whether controler user being unfair.

Played Apex for years and completed many battle passes. Reached lvl 500. Still… never received a single Heirloom. Not to mention dealt with the toxic solo Qs, cheaters, smurfs, all of the above. Hell yes count me in as a number that deleted the game. When will the devs realize that something has to be fixed to actually attract a consistent player base. I loved Apex. But now it is a shell of a game it used to be. A trend with many games lately. CoDs, CS2 small market transactions are ruining games

We need a system like Korea - accounts are tied to your social security number (SSN) so you get ONE account. Not sure how it would work in NA... but every game has way too many cheaters and smurfs.

It's still haunts me that apex legends mobile has a lot more qol feature and events that make it more fun and engaging yet sadly killed

The problem is not the battlepass. The problem is the battlepass change in conjunction with the game being in the worst state it's every been in.

what killed Apex for me is EA turning this game into a cash grab with anti-consumer decisions

It’s not just in high level play , it’s across the board. There is a lot of cheating in pub br and even mixtape.

Seasons 7-13 we were getting new guns, legends, maps, and gameplay changes every few months. Now all the changes have been primarily shop and currency focused while problems persist. Same guns, same legend pickrates, zero maps, zero changes. Support games that support you.

I tried to get back into apex and it didnt end well; The skill required to aim track zoomers aggressively hitting the griddy toward you while shooting, at the running speed of 260mph is beyond my capabilities.

"Apex is currently in the top 10 games of Stea-" OK video is over. Not dying

AA was already tough enough but as cheating continues to grow I’ve decided it’s just not worth playing as a MnK player.

I am not boycotting Apex. I am simply quitting playing garbage. EA and Respawn took a fantastic game and made it trash. They do not care, and this latest BP change is them milking what they can from the game before it is dead. Psychopaths will do psychopathic things, and since I do indeed have a choice.. I choose not to take part in their pathetic schemes.

Stopped playing when they removed Arenas. That was my favorite mode to just jump in for a an hour or two and play

Titanfall warned them all. They laughed. Now their game is dying. Ironic

they added all that new bs monetization and not any actual new features, No replay system, No community maps, No fun. If apex had community gamemodes/maps the game would thrive and have another avenue to keep players.

All these cheaters fleeing right now while I got banned 2 years ago and wasted $500 because EA wouldn't bother to help my account's recovery. Now for a spin, I've pirated all your F1 games and condone it to every one of my friends to do so

i refuse to believe these cheaters are above 15 years old, at least mentally. these free to play games need to implement some kind of paid option to only play vs paid players like in csgo to discourage cheating

My friends and I were big into Apex when the game first launched and played through the first handful of seasons together. At some point, we all decided to take a break, eventually returning in the middle of last year to give it another go. We had fun at first, but eventually, we all got fed up with needing to lean into our monitors and grab a towel to keep the sweat from dripping and stopped playing within a couple of weeks. Alongside EA being scummy, and Respawn refusing to do anything about cheaters at the high levels, I think Apex assisted its own downfall. People saw the opportunity to go pro and they threw out all sense of fun in their pursuit of being the next big name in the scene. I feel like it's happened to most games with an esports scene, where players take their competitive spirit into casual because they don't want to lose their rank, even though that's what competitive modes are for. I feel like it happened in League, I feel like it happened in Valorant, it's in Fortnite, and it's happened in Apex.

Apex players before complaining about tf2 players now they are worse thats karma

It's not only Apex but most other multiplayer pc games. It's not fun to play anymore

The game is dying because of cheaters and Corporate Greed, that last part is the most important. Only good player’s experience cheaters, regular players “casual players” just get screwed by having to pay more and more to enjoy a battlepass or get a new skin.

i stopped playing when i got my 3rd pred badge on console 2 years ago because i sat down and thought i am wasting my life now i am a undefeated mma fighter and beating adults at 16

apex player here since release... last 2 season was a downfall for me and the nail in the coffin was when that tournament incident that was hacked mid game. I think they have cut down on servers where you can get in servers that has high ping and packetloss. I think they no longer spend resources on anti-cheat since the rise of aimlockers in teamdeathmatch is now prevalent.

It was the cooperate greed from EA that pushed me away from Apex Legends.

I find it very difficult to justify ever going back to Apex, I used to play it religiously LOVED it despite many flaws, but all these problems are nothing new and have been compounding for YEARS. When I played Fortnite for the first time when Zero Build came out, I saw a game that was regularly updated, had decent help support, less cheaters (for the most part), GREAT cosmetics, decent pricing for items, innovation, new game modes, new movement, overall FUN, and lots of QOL. Even SBMM felt better, like it still could frik me over, but I could take a break from the game and it'll put me in a good spot difficulty-wise. Apex didn't have qualities nearly as good and I feel it still doesn't.

I sincerely hope, when Season 22 launches nobody buys the battlepass. Vote with your wallets people, its worked in the past it will work this time as well. EA only knows they fucked up when there is no cash flow.

Friends stopped playing long ago so I played around 1,5 year solo queue ranked and the experience got worst with almost every season. Cheaters, pred teams and salty teammates already made me take a break for some months but the new battlepass news made me uninstall the game (I think for good)

The game died a long time ago. Used to grind everyday but hated being preyed upon by Respawn and EA. Save yourselves, sell your accounts

i left apex due to the ranked system changes over the years. I've always enjoyed the old ranked system that incentivized aggresive playstyle and more interaction among players, but lately its been dwindled to passive, long range and poke playstyle. My most favourite season would definitely be season 7 for sure.

ImperialHal was enjoying them hacks during the tournament and didn't leave right away, it was too funny.🤣🤣

After that announcement, I used my leftover coins on packs then uninstalled. Just gonna stick to watching ALGS and thats it.

Ea is so worried about banning people over offensive names and there letting hackers kill this game haven’t played since I got banned over a stupid name I could’ve changed.

I can see EA dropping support for the Steam Deck in order to use their other anti-cheat on Apex

The fact that cheats are selling with a feature called "Mark/Highlight other cheaters" is a strong indication......

Cheaters? No. Respawn/EA killed apex. and cheaters added to it. Thats just what EA does, even with their FIFA games, at one point, they just stop caring.

Respawn would rather make as much as possible short term than spend a little money for anti cheat to make slightly less money long term

Used to play it a lot, but the cheaters and especially movement macro players in casual matches just made it not fun.

nowdays you cant know if someones hacking or being really good at it, they say cheaters are extremely toxic... guess what? the rest are toxic too

Apex is pretty bad but CS2 is undoubtedly worse. About half the player base is case farming bots and 30% of the non bots are cheaters.

Actually it almost seems as if video game studios nowadays underestimate the impact of cheating in online games. They know about this issue and try tackle it partially, but this is just not enough. We can see this on various fronts which is massively annoying and risks their IP as well. They should all prioritize a proper anti-cheat, no matter which method they decide.

Unfortunately I only see Apex on this page when it’s something negative. Honestly you would think apex didn’t even have a competitive scene

So I'm a console player on Sydney severs and can't go a game without crashing, having loading errors/bugs or getting 6-9 man's with constant lag and no reg's the game is barely playable with a new battlepass change I mean bro of course the game is on a downward slop. (I can't say much for pc)

If it's not unruinable people will ruin it.

Apex and tarkov have the craziest cheater rates.

I never reinstalled after the ALGS RCE because Respawn never announced that they fixed it. Instead they announced new heirlooms. So yeah

cheaters arent the only reason. this could be just me, but i think the devs mightve just killed the game, me and my friends used to play a lot when killing ppl actually improved ur rank, but now its just a campy BR. no one wants to play a br where its better to sit and camp in a corner rather then run around killing people.

Wait, there are titles where you can pay for the battle pass with in-game currency? Apex players had it the best. Kudos to Apex to ignoring the cash grab for 20 seasons. It’s time for developers to get paid.

For me Apex is annoying to get back into, because seasonal rankings and a harsh reset between. I usually play with friends, but if I had not played in the same season. We can't play ranked due to rank difference. Yes I can raise mine to match theirs, but that is a hassel I don't like doing alone.

I see cheaters in pubs A LOT. F Apex, they won't fix anything.

If you still support EA, then EA will keep screwing you in the ass. Business as usual.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="91">1:31</a> Self-proclaimed? He got that nickname from people in early days of game 😂😂

I only play when one of my friends asks me to play. Just to socialize with a game in the background. I'm reporting every smurf, diamond, master or pred I see in my lobby because I ain't ever been on level, so I shouldn't be playing against someone that much better than me. And that's pretty much every match. Ranked too. I was barely plat like 15 seasons ago, why am I playing against ex or current preds and masters? I tend to report them a number of times on a whole bunch of things. After a while, a couple days or something, I get an email saying they reviewed my reports and saw nothing wrong. I know they're not gonna do anything about it, I just do it to waste a bit of their time if there's actually a human looking at reports, and on the off chance that person actually gets banned. But that hasn't happened yet.

Servers are still the biggest joke when it comes to playing apex

My worst part, I’m generally a silver/gold player having masters in my ranked lobbies (OCE servers definitely aren’t helping tho)

I quit a while ago. Essentially I ran into 'git gud' issues, for the first time ever in a shooter. For a game that is so easy to shoot and get into its just incredibly hard to actually get kills due to the TOTK & 3rd partying. SBMM exagerbated this problem immensely. I know I'm above average, I'm okay with not being better than that, but consistently getting a