Don't let the "assembled in Portland" language fool you, since the Ratio 8 is still made in China. My Ikea desk, for instance, was "assembled in Portland" by me, but it was manufactured in China.

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Drinking coffee and watching this channel goes so well together, also very educational. Me like :)

Love these 2 machines! Thx for the review Gayle. For all the people who want to complain and leave smart ass comments about the prices of these two machines.......go buy yourself a less expensive drip machine and quit crying. Most machines will make a good cup. These machines are beautiful to look at and give that pour over experience. Worth every penny if that's what your looking for.

Thank you for answering the specific questions about plastic in the machines. I don’t know why it took me so long to think about the toxicity of the Hot water on plastic going into my coffee. I have been organic for decades and stayed away from plastic for this reason and yet I was still brewing my coffee in a standard American coffee pot. Not anymore!

Love my Ratio 8 (from SCG)! Looks beautiful on the counter and makes excellent coffee!

You can place a Chemex under the Bonavita and it only costs $180 ;)

Thank you for posting.

how about Rocket Espresso Appartamento vs Nuova Simonelli Oscar II - Crew Review?

Thank you for this great comparison video! I did have a question regarding the Ratio Eight. I saw another video remark on noticeable condensation developing during the brewing process along the outside top of the machine. Have you noticed this happen? I confess personally I'm leaning toward buying the Ratio, I like the absence of plastic and made in Portland factors. But then again hopefully rust wouldn't be an issue down the road. Thanks again for the shoot out!

I love your reviews and how they're truly indiscriminate!

I believe Gail has a crush for the Ratio 8!

2nd video im watching. Gail is so cute!!!! so helpful

Great review Gail. Felt like I was with you!

Do some lever espresso machines! Compare La Pavoni Stradivari to a semi-auto.

The Ratio Eight is GBP625 (or $815) in the UK!

The coffee world has gone full circle and successfully reinvented automatic drip brewers... But for 20x the price.

I trust Gail. Great review!

That’s something to think about.

I’ve been looking for an all metal or NO plastic machine and finding it a challenge... the Ratio8 popped up on this website but for $500 bucks? Ufdaaa!

Maybe you could compare the Oscar II with the Breville dual boiler?

finally honest review of the drip coffee makers: they all the same. :-)

1. You didn't stir the finished coffee. I thought you're supposed to stir pretty much any brewed coffee before you drink it, am I wrong? 2. How could you not mention price?? If they produce identical coffee, then that's basically the deciding factor, right?

How about a blind taste test between one of these machines and a true/ hand pour over? I'd be interested to see if you could tell the difference between them. Might even be interesting to get two or three people do the pour over - to see if you can taste the difference between everyone's pouring Style.

Can toy program the ratio 8 to turn on at a certain time in the morning?

I just tried some today and I was sold.

I do t see the point in this for the home user, it would probably be cheaper and be better just to get a Chemex and a kettle. Mabey if you had a super busy cafe and had one of theses on the counter you could have two chemexes brewing at the same time... three of your ambidextrous lol. I’ve seen it done

While I like the design of both machines, I really have trouble condoning the obvious price gouging in the Ratio. There is nothing high value in there. Thermal jug, similar ones retail at 30$ so cost price = possibly 3$. Ceramic Brewing filter holder, $1. Glass tank (optional) let’s be generous $10. Customised Glass Pipes $2, aluminium boiler (cheapest choice, aluminium is the worse for boiling water in) $7 all in, a bit of custom electronics for the switch etc $5 and I’m generous, custom powder coated cabinet with wood, $20. So best case, each machine costs less than $50. Sold at $600 without a mesh filter $39.

So if one buys the The Chemex Ottomatic then one would have $245 to buy coffee beans at $20/lbs/mo for years worth.

wash the filter paper pls.

It was all me Gail I made the mess sory

I don't understand the point. You lose the level of control of doing a traditional pour over brew. So if you wanted the automation and care less about control then at that point why not just use a drip machine?

The pre-infusion is just supposed to last while the coffee mass is "blooming", i.e., swelling. As soon as the swelling stops and the bloom starts to collapse, then regular infusion is supposed to be started. 30 seconds is too long for the Ratio Eight to wait. By the end of 30 seconds, the bloom will have collapsed and the grounds will be on their way to drying out, which is a big no-no. That will affect the quality of the brew. If nothing else, the little trickle of water from the Ottomatic will ensure that the coffee mass in the filter will not dry out while waiting for the main infusion to begin. Personally, I haven't seen an automatic coffee maker yet that can reproduce the technique of a skilled Chemex coffee fanatic such as me--forty years and counting. Perfect Chemex-brewed coffee requires standing over the pot and tending the brew until the infusion is all but done making sure the coffee mass remains immersed in the water until it all drains into the pot, not stranded up on the sides of the filter with the water long gone, drying out before fully extracted.

This one was made by child workers in the mines of Mongolia.....something to think about! Thanks for the awesome review Gail!

Se convirtió en una cafetera americana. No lavó los filtros

Here’s the difference: One will set you back a decently large amount of money One will set you back a kidney

Good news everyone! The Ratio Eight is now assembled in *Taiwan* -USA- ! (According to their website) While that certainly is better than China, it loses a few critical points for that. Add on top of that the Brandon shipping delays, you are getting less and less of what you want.

How many things is that you think about?? LMFAO 😅 good videos though just maybe start using that terminology