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highway zuo 今年会出版两套简化版八卦掌，易学易练，不失风格和功效。 相信会打开八卦掌的新局面，让大众人人都可以习练，从中受益。

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if you want to know about Baguazhang go here:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagua.

and here:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baguazhang

Thanks for the information

The diagrams matching the palm is a new interpretation and really is not the original the 8 Trigrams ties to the whole art of Ba Gua Zhang. The original name of the art was Turning Palm because of the spiraling.

+Ziriako De Jesus This video seems to be more the eight basic postures. There is another video here on youtube, called Bát mẫu chưởng, that has the Cheng Style Eight Basic Palm Changes. The usual ordering is 1. Heaven(Single Palm Change) 2. Earth(Double Palm Change) 3. Wind 4. Thunder 5. Fire 6. Water 7. Mountain 8. Lake. So the first 4 are the Yang palm changes except+ Double Palm Change is Yin, then it finishes with the last three are Yin. There are other styles that that just go through the post-heaven arrangement of the Bagua in a circular pattern; Heaven, Water, Mountain, Thunder, Wind, Fire, Earth, Lake.

Both taijiquan and baguazhang, when used in applications instead of forms, are fully capable of performing locks, throws, strikes, and so on. However, fighting applications won't look like the clean, smooth, uniform motion of a form exercise set. The use of oblique entry angles and core strength make for a less direct force-on-force type of fighting, with more use of deflection. It's just like going to the gun range -- real opponents aren't highlit in fluorescent lines with zones marked for point values, nor present themselves in brightly lit firing lanes. Most "bagua applications" or "tai chi applications" videos you'll find online are in instructional settings, so they're slowing it down to step-by-step actions so that the students or audience can see what's going on. There's always the question: Can this guy do this move at full speed in a real fighting situation? As you gain experience in your own training and body mechanics, you can learn to identify when someone has good use of core strength, weight distribution, and sensitivity in reading an opponent's movements or weight. Look at videos like Hai Yang's applications: /watch?v=mvt7D4OfunU You can see how the instructor has a much more solid understanding of the movement, while his students tend to carry their weight too high (hips up) and move out of sync with their limbs and body, and no one is actually throwing the opponent hard enough to hurt each other.

Dakao Do r u a practitioner of bagua? It seems too hard to learn myself from watching these videos. However I learnt the forms of wing chung, choy lee fut, dragon style, chow gar mantis by watching video. I know I won't get the full just of it, but is fun to learn different style and theories

I've only trained the single and double palm changes, and their use in drills and sparring. Ditto for a bit of Yang style taijiquan, Northern Mantis, Hung Gar, and some drills in Wing Tsun -- all over the course of 9 years. I'd say that teaching approaches for Wing Tsun tend to significantly differ from mantis, taiji, and bagua. My main systems are German and Italian sword, polearm, dagger, and wrestling, so this is all just cross-training. But body mechanics are pretty universal no matter the system or teaching method -- sometimes you just have to look a little harder to see the common lessons. You really need to find at least a few instructors to get you started, as well as physically competent training partners to practice with. When first learning physical skills at all, the instructor's approach and teaching style are more important than the martial art system she or he teaches. Videos alone will only help provide alternate training ideas once you already have a solid foundation in movements and at least intermediate practice in reading opponents and partners. That foundation took about 5-7 years for me. Training in sports also greatly helped -- parkour specifically for me.

Example of bagua/taiji application: In a rapier bout with a left-handed guy who trains longsword, sport fencing, and jujitsu, he set me up with a thrust to my inside line. When I parried, it brought my shoulder forward to my left in line with my lead right leg and hip. This let him pass and enter with his right arm to clothesline and hip throw me. I missed the counter and went down. The second time we got into a similar set-up, I shot my hips back to defend against his leg and hip, hit him with my left hook punch to his right kidney, which straightened him up from flinching, and that gave me the entry to obliquely cut my right hip in as I scissored my arms up and down (my right hand and sword crossguard up into his chin, my left hand down against his tailbone), letting me use a hip throw against him. The action is often shown as a taiji defense of the body's centerline or bagua Hide Flower under Leaf.

Dakao Do I heard the bagua/taichi emphasize on the hip (or tail bone) and crotch, their force is generated by the crotch. It's completely different way of generating forces from normal muscular power, I heard they train the ne jin, which is the internal way of generating power and forces instead of external power

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@@lichunling2251 gorgeous

Try it and then you will understand its power. You can't learn just by watching.

Stop watching Jake Mace. I know he shows up every time you search baguazhang on youtube, but use a bit of intuition when it comes to poseurs and fakes. Baguazhang is just as practical as tai chi; don't be baited by bullshit teachers.

Now I'm curious what does your practical martial art look like? From here it lacks humility and wisdom.