CHEVY CITATION 1980-1985 - Learn Why It Didn't Last!

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3 жыл бұрын

Introduced in 1980, the Chevy Citation was a welcomed response to foreign-manufactured rivals like the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. The United States was in the throes of its second gas crisis, and the Chevy Citation came along in time to replace the Chevy Nova.
Compared to the other compact cars on the market at the time, the Chevy Citation had an edge when it came to body style. The Chevy Citation offered more body style choices than any other compact car, with three versions produced, including the notchback coupe, the three-door hatchback, and the five-door hatchback, which ultimately proved to be the most popular of the three.
The chevy Citation Equipped with a 2.5-liter four cylinder engine, generating 90 horsepower, or a 2.8-liter V6 engine, able to produce 115 horsepower, either engine was operated by a four-speed manual or three-speed automatic transmission.
Despite strong sales, Chevy still upped its own game by releasing a sporty X-11 package with an updated suspension and eye-catching exterior, featuring stripes along its sides, a black grille, white lettered Goodyear tires, and striking body accents. Marketed to the younger generation of drivers, the X-11 featured the V6 engine paired with the four-speed manual transmission.
Produced as a separate trim level, the Citation X-11 was a variant featuring cosmetic, chassis, and powertrain upgrades over the standard Citation. While less powerful than the Camaro Z28 (and later Monte Carlo SS), the Citation X-11 would also take over the role of the similarly sized Chevrolet Monza. The X-11 was offered throughout the production run of the Citation/Citation II, on the 3-door hatchback and 2-door "club coupe" (discontinued in 1981 and 1985).

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@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@markw208
@markw208 2 жыл бұрын
Corvair was Car of the Year in 1960, Vega in 1971, Citation in 1980. They all were groundbreaking at the time but each had many problems. This video would have made more sense if didn't repeat some information and actually detailed the problems that led to it's demise. My girlfriend had a brand new one in 80. Seemed kind of cheap. Lots of molded hard plastic. The 4 cylinder engine was a little rough but not terrible. The car just wasn't refined. As a larger alternative to small imports it achieved that goal. But when a car goes out of production in 6 years there is proof of too many issues.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 2 жыл бұрын
GM never seemed to learn that you only get one chance to make a first impression.
@snek9353
@snek9353 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhh, not really, ultimately the citation was simply replaced by a redesign and rebadged as the cavalier.
@paulj6756
@paulj6756 2 жыл бұрын
@@snek9353 The Citation was on the X Body whereas the Cavalier used the J Body.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
@@snek9353 Cavalier was smaller and inferior to the Citation until later on it got a 3.1 version of the Citation V6.
@drippinglass
@drippinglass 2 жыл бұрын
GM battin’ a thousand back then! A new turd to ring in every new decade! 😀
@billj5645
@billj5645 2 жыл бұрын
We owned a 1980 4-cylinder 4-speed. We actually tried to order one with V6 but never got it, they were in demand and we were suspicious that the dealer received our order and sold it to someone else. We ended up buying our 1980 off of a lot. We drove it 70,000 miles in 3 years including towing our small travel trailer around the western US. On the highway we got very good gas mileage. We traded it in for a 1983 X/11 and we really liked that one. We used it for towing the trailer but also for driving to work. It was sporty and performed well. Both of our Citations were nice cars, comfortable to drive, gave good fuel economy and were very reliable. I don't know what people do to their cars to make them unreliable, maybe don't beat the car with a chain every day. Maybe an unreliable car reflects more on the owner than on the car. (My family has been in the auto repair business for over 60 years so I know a little about what is reliable and what is not.)
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you had both with no problems. I agree. I wonder at times what people do to their cars to make them go bad.
@glbrown4262
@glbrown4262 2 жыл бұрын
Had an 82 and 83 X11's,, was happy with both, though the 83 was somewhat rust prone.
@silverwings11035
@silverwings11035 2 жыл бұрын
Thats awsome your family had 2. I always wanted a X/11. I love how they look and always been a fan! Like you mentioned, maybe if you dont beat the hell out of your car and service it well it will last a long time. Hell, I daily drive a 1982 DeLorean. A car they say is slow....its not. Say its unreliable.... well it isn't. I restored it myself, Update it where I need it and put it back on the road. Even with its mechanical Bosch fuel injection I am getting 28 miles to the gallon. Its a great car, like your Citations were that you've had. 😀
@TheRiceguy78
@TheRiceguy78 2 жыл бұрын
My dad had an X11 also but the auto tranny couldnt handle the stop and go of hot LA gridlock traffic. that was the only issue it had . as a little kid i remember it being spacious inside. it was one of the cooler looking cars that my dad owned in the past.
@mrdiplomat9018
@mrdiplomat9018 2 жыл бұрын
Our 1980 blew a hole through a piston, other than that, a decent car 🙄☠️🇺🇸
@mhlaw229
@mhlaw229 2 жыл бұрын
We bought a new one in 1981. Quality was fair at best. Short in the windshield wipers caused them to sometimes activate when you started the car. Then it started jumping out of 3rd gear unless you held the shifter in place. Power steering failure after about 2 years. Clutch issues. Engine was completely worn out at 100,000 miles. We basically gave it to the dealer in 1987 as a trade on a new Olds Cutlass Supreme, GMs best ever car in my opinion. Also we took good care of our vehicles. So, none of the Citation issues was related to abuse or lack of proper service
@pilskadden
@pilskadden 2 жыл бұрын
After such a lemon you still went back and bought another GM vehicle?
@mhlaw229
@mhlaw229 2 жыл бұрын
@@pilskadden We already had an older Olds Cutlass Supreme. I think it was an '84 model and it was an excellent car. Not all GM quality was bad. Olds and Buick were fine cars. Chevy and GMC full size trucks were good too, although we preferred Ford trucks
@gtpcruiser02
@gtpcruiser02 2 жыл бұрын
@bobcat baldfat drunkbeater Engine failures in three vehicles is from NOT changing the oil and filter at 5000 mile intervals.
@kevinkeeney6693
@kevinkeeney6693 2 жыл бұрын
I will never forget my father telling me that the Chevy Citation is the car of the future and you will be driving this car when you get older. With that statement, I thought I better buy a 1960's car for a weekend fun car.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. And then promptly get blown away by a front wheel drive hatchback. I’ve got a middle of the road 2019 Impala. Was chasing an STI up the hill going home and I guess I got the attention of a 1968 Camaro SS 396 who quickly whipped out into the right lane around some slower traffic looking like he wanted to play. I gunned it and watched him get smaller and smaller in the rear view. Sorry pal.. you’ve got a 15 second car.. same as my wife’s Honda Civic.
@lrodriguez9315
@lrodriguez9315 2 жыл бұрын
Your dad must of been related to homer .
@kevinkeeney6693
@kevinkeeney6693 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bartonovich52 Do you really believe that a Chevy Citation would have a chance with your Impala?
@AhmedAhmed-bv4fo
@AhmedAhmed-bv4fo 4 күн бұрын
I have one and it works. I got it in an old store and I don't know anything about it
@danlewis3605
@danlewis3605 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1980 Citation V6 automatic. My first new car.. I was 20. Always maintained it. Great little car. Awesome in the snow. Never any problems. Just a couple recalls. Fast forward- I bought a new 2021 Bronco sport on May. It broke down in August at 1700 miles. Won't start. It's still at the Ford dealer. They can't find the problem yet. So much for cars being better now
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment and for watching. I'm not so sure about all the hype of the Bronco.
@mikefannon6994
@mikefannon6994 2 жыл бұрын
We inherited one from my father-in-law. A good car, never had any problems.
@5KpGD
@5KpGD 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota secretly bought an early production model Citation in 1979 when it was available for sale, sent it back to Japan for test evaluation and eventually was torn apart to understand its engineering and how GM did their FWD set up. Toyota had bought one to understand why Americans bought them in their thousands. To their surprise, Toyota engineers discovered that the Citation (and the X-Car in general) wasn't a fully baked product and lacked in quality control. Toyota was confident that they could introduce, produce, and sell a better car in the American market that Americans would rather prefer to own and drive. And this is how the Camry was born, because Toyota themselves bought a Chevy Citation. Without the Citation, there would be no such thing as a Camry, because the Citation inspired Toyota to do much better. And they did.
@5KpGD
@5KpGD 2 жыл бұрын
Also, fun fact. The Citation was slated to be phased out of production by the 1987 model year, to be replaced by the L-Body Corsica and Beretta in 1988. There is a huge reason why all 1987 Corsicas and Berettas went to fleet users first before it was sold to the public, GM got burned badly by the X-car, and the replacement cars for it had to be better executed to have a better positive impact on the buying public. As the Citation was axed after the 1985 model year, Chevy had no sized car of Citation for the market until the L-body was ready, but that was two years out.
@vadim6385
@vadim6385 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose that someone at Toyota saw the Citation, and said "if they can get away with selling THAT, then we have nothing to worry about". Judging on how the Camry changed over the years, the real pain in the a$$ for them was the Ford Taurus. Now that was a worthy competitor that suddenly made the Camry/Accord/Stanza look outdated.
@5KpGD
@5KpGD 2 жыл бұрын
@@vadim6385 The 86 Ford Taurus was a fantastic car with a history of its own, and the single product that prevented a total financial collapse of the Ford Motor Company in the 1980's. The Citation/X-Body nearly killed GM. The Camry allowed a foothold for Toyota to dominate the American market for generations to come. And the Taurus saved Ford from extinction. But in time, Camry was a car that all companies vowed to compete and beat in the market. But never get close. Look at Ford and GM now, that can't hold a candle to the imports on how to design and build a passenger car Americans want to buy. None of them are offering any sedans anymore. Yet, the Camry still sells. And with that, you can thank the Citation after all.
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 2 жыл бұрын
@@5KpGD What's interesting to me is that you got Toyota and Honda , Kia and Hyundai in that sedan segment. And they're doing quite well. It's been amazing watching the Korean manufacturers go from pretty much rolling piles of poo to being some of the best that there is both an engineering and in design and desirability. But if I had to roll the dice on a car I'd probably still pick Toyota get a Camry with a 4 cylinder engine do the maintenance on it and it'll probably run forever. I'd probably get the hybrid version honestly of the camry. That simplifies things even more in many ways mechanically. You add some complication with the Hybrid battery and a few other secondary systems. But the transmission in the Toyota hybrids is about as simple as can be. It's just a planetary split device with two electric motors. All you got to do is drain and refill the fluid every 50,000 miles there's no filter.. and it's easy to do. I personally have a 2008 Prius with 374,000 Miles still running good.
@05gtdriver
@05gtdriver 2 жыл бұрын
@@5KpGD That helps explain why the 1st gen Camry in 4 door hatchback form looks somewhat like a Japanese version of a 4 door hatchback Citation(scaled down a bit, of course).
@Vertshark
@Vertshark 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2-door hatchback with a 4-speed manual. I was traveling over 30K a year with my job and the storage space was great. Liked it so much a bought a new 1983 which was one of the biggest POS I've ever owned
@Myvintageiron7512
@Myvintageiron7512 2 жыл бұрын
I worked with a guy that had a 1980 citation he bought it new when he worked at a Chevrolet dealer he was still driving that thing in 2016 when he retired as far as I know he is still driving it had a 2.5L iron Duke
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason (and I’m kind of joking) that Citation held up for so long was that he worked at a Chevy dealership …
@67marlins
@67marlins 2 жыл бұрын
The Pontiac Inline 4 Iron Duke was known as very durable, even if it was somewhat unrefined.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertdragoff6909 Quite possibly. "Friends and family" attention to its' teething troubles and first-year recalls early on, and likely a chance to clean out the stock of Citation-specific parts sometime in the '90s, straight into his hatch instead of the dumpster.
@michijimc9753
@michijimc9753 2 жыл бұрын
A family member had an 80 model year Citation. Four banger with manual transmission. That car provided reliable service for many years. It carried a band of four of we cousins on several road trips out west. That car had one of the first “big” stereos in it too. So road-trips were enjoyable. On more than one occasion the occupants of the Citation could have been rightfully accused of trying to compete with Cheech and Chong due to all the smoke billowing out the sunroof! Oh to be young and not have a care in the world again.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Those were certainly the good old days. I say it all the time. I guess this is why I began this channel and asked my brother to voice videos. We enjoy going back in time. We hope you're a subscriber!
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 2 жыл бұрын
The Nova looked a million times better, was rear wheel drive, and you could get a V8 engine. The Citation was one of the first "appliance" cars.
@nathandwyer7273
@nathandwyer7273 2 жыл бұрын
The Citation, and each of the new FWD X-bodies, had one genuinely outstanding feature. For their size, they had great interior room.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathandwyer7273 That may be true. But they didn't have anything else. They were hideously ugly, and front wheel drive. I can't believe they replaced the Nova with this POS. While I am a fan of the 1968-1974 Nova, the 1975-1979 Novas were not at all bad looking cars, and they were rear wheel drive. I have owned 2 front wheel drive cars, and will never make that mistake again. Both were junk.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
1970 Nova with 350 V8 4 bbl. and 4 speed--would be heaven on wheels today.
@drippinglass
@drippinglass 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a ‘79 Nova Custom 2 door. It was light blue metallic with blue fabric interior. It only had the 250 six and turbo 350 but I was 14 at the time and wanted it for my 1st car to put a small block in it. He only had it for 6 months and in April ‘79 when I was at school, he went with my Mom to Reedman’s and traded it in for a 4 door ‘80 Citation with the 2.5 and automatic. I hated that car from the second I saw it! 😡😄
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 2 жыл бұрын
@@geraldscott4302 What make & model?
@danielventura8073
@danielventura8073 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend had a red 81 X-11. High output V6, air conditioning, sport suspension. It was a very cool car.
@bigray2859
@bigray2859 2 жыл бұрын
Had one. Really liked it. Mine was fairly plain Jane. Big inside, modest outside. Mine folded in half. It was common for frame rails/unibody to rust away under the passenger compartment here in Wisconsin.
@JasonJones-br3or
@JasonJones-br3or 2 жыл бұрын
I wrecked my Citation when I was in college a little over 20 years ago; surprisingly, it didn't catch on fire that time.
@dale116dot7
@dale116dot7 2 жыл бұрын
I also had one. And I also wrecked it in college. I had the 2.8 V6, I liked the car.
@ScottSchindewolf
@ScottSchindewolf 2 жыл бұрын
I a 23 year old drive an 85 citation as my daily I guess I take very good care of it like my grandfather had it has well over 400k on the engine which is out of the 81 omega the chassis I believe has well over 800k or 900k miles we really don't know it has never left me stranded and though I remain cautious I shall continue to trust this wonderful car even if I need to convert the rear brakes to disc for safety reasons
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see pics of that.
@ScottSchindewolf
@ScottSchindewolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisOldCarChannel id love to share them but i do not know how on youtube i tried posting a link to an album but it got deleted
@estpst
@estpst 2 жыл бұрын
My dad had one, the trunk and interior was huge. Of course the quality of fit and finish was not that great, was quite reliable.
@georgestaunton6994
@georgestaunton6994 2 жыл бұрын
Dad had the 5-door hatchback. It was a surprisingly nice car to drive. The A/C smelled like sweat socks, however. We never changed the inside air filter! Still, we liked driving it.
@donaldphelps7031
@donaldphelps7031 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 85 citation. Drove it for 114 thousand miles. Had very few problems with it. That was a great car. I loved it.
@jtc1964x
@jtc1964x 2 жыл бұрын
The V6 version had great power for its day. What is funny is the new Caddy CT5 kinda mirrors this shape
@stussels
@stussels 2 жыл бұрын
had one in high school and into college. was actually a great first car. 2.8 v6 auto was surprisingly fast. fold down rear seat was good for oil well parking. towed my fishing boat with it and put in at the marina. got around good in the snow but would spin out easy. that was good and bad. beat up on a lot of domestic four bangers with it. mustangs and barettas, etc. the whole interior was green with the vertical radio.
@stussels
@stussels 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 thats when youd take your gal out in the sticks to some secluded oil well for a make out session. small town only thing maybe
@stussels
@stussels 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 ah, hadnt considered that.
@talldude5841
@talldude5841 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 82 Citation hatchback that was used. I drove it 40 miles round trip to work and back for probably 5 years. I went to a nearby junkyard and pulled out a stereo verticle radio and put it in. Was driving to work one morning and hit a 6 point buck at 65 miles an hour. Well that was the end of that car. I have to admit tho, I have owned over 20 cars in my lifetime, and this was one of the top five.
@michaelmills5972
@michaelmills5972 2 жыл бұрын
Had an '84 4-door hatchback, w/4-spd; my favorite car I've owned
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 2 жыл бұрын
GM's Holden division in Australia looked carefully at the Citation as a possible follow-up to the HZ series Holden IF the smaller size Opel-derived Commodore failed to ignite the market's interest. Holden's Australian engineers went over the citation with a fine tooth comb and the use of the venerable Buick 3.8 V6 was mooted (which would have necessitated a change in the car's front clip and steering system). In the end it was believed that Aussies were too enamoured of their large RWD cars to take a punt on going FWD and so had the Commodore failed to ignite the interests of the Australian public a rebodied HZ/WB would have gone into production instead. Fortunately for Holden Aussies took to the modified Commodore and the rest is history. I have often wondered what the Aussie version of the Citation would have looked like and how it would have coped with Aussie roads.
@my11badkids78
@my11badkids78 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents had a 4 door hatchback. I remember lots of fun drives in it. I always wanted to find a 2 door hatchback and drop a V-8 in it. 2 tone paint and some nice period rims.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had the X-11. You don't see any around in town. lol
@T-41
@T-41 2 жыл бұрын
The X cars in their early model years were plagued with failure of front wheel drive components like axle shafts/ CV joints. As they got older severe body rust issues became apparent. You mention Chrysler K cars. Fortunately for Chrysler ( and their customers) their K- Cars, the Plymouth Reliant and Dodge Aries which were introduced about a year or so later for 1981 did not exhibit serious problems like the GM cars.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That's correct. Thanks for watching and the interesting comment.
@100forks
@100forks 2 жыл бұрын
For me. I really liked the way it looked and loved everything from the firewall back. Firewall forward was a different story. Had the four cylinder, carb. model that produced a lot of issues. The engine died, under warranty thankfully. At first I was to get a completely new engine but then they decided to rebuild the old one; to save money. I must say, that the dealer was very nice. They gave me a loaner and the job was finished right on time. One dangerous problem was driving in the rain. If you came to an intersection and had to stop, you had a good chance of just sliding into the intersection. Chevy knew about the problem.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I though the X11 looked cool. Junk but cool looking
@barbmelle3136
@barbmelle3136 2 жыл бұрын
From Leo: We had lots of neighbors that had them. It was a dependable, cheap fill in car while the American makers transitioned to the smaller, higher mileage product lines. The only negative I remember was how people who were used to full sized V8 sedans for years did not really like compromising to a smaller car, especially families with a lot of children. That would be the same no matter what they bought.
@Andyface79
@Andyface79 2 жыл бұрын
It was an unmitigated disaster. It had a huge number of recalls, the brakes locked up because GM was too cheap to put a valve in to help them, and the iron duke was a joke compared to Japanese 4 cylinders. They are still making Accords and Camrys today. These lasted 5 years.
@barbmelle3136
@barbmelle3136 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andyface79 From Leo: I remember the Japanese cars back then. Soon to be wife even had a 77 Accord. The light car was pretty spunky with that CVCC engine. It did have a lot of electrical problems and in 1981, the dealer said it was unsafe to drive because of rust. Most Japanese cars rusted really quickly in those years. Plus her Accord was really cramped. I am 14 inches taller than her. I hope all manufacturers have gotten better since 1980, that was 40 years ago. Sadly, they all size the cars for smaller framed people.
@Andyface79
@Andyface79 2 жыл бұрын
@@barbmelle3136 Yeah I’m 6 foot 5 and I struggle with smaller cars too. I do agree the rust was a problem but overall the Accord was a better car. I will acknowledge that GM’s quality has gone waaay up.
@williamdelmar3964
@williamdelmar3964 2 жыл бұрын
As a friend and I (who both owned one) called it "the dreaded X car" The finish and reliability were terrible for both of us. I was happy when I upgraded to a Chrysler K car. Too many corners were cut somewhere on a car that should have been great.
@williamtroup3498
@williamtroup3498 2 жыл бұрын
Had a beige 1982 X-11 hatchback with a red interior. Quick and handled well and could haul a lot of stuff. Had it for about 7 years before the Florida salt air had it rust away.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@OpenBarGarage
@OpenBarGarage 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful car!! I'm surprised I didn't know anything about it until this video! Thank you.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments. Different for its time!
@Grey_Beard72
@Grey_Beard72 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone I knew that had one loved them. My mom and sister also had one. Mom's was a a four door V6 auto and My sister's a four cylinder auto. Neither one had any problems with theirs. I drove both cars many times and they were very solid. I remember driving my mom's V6 all day long and the gas gauge barely moved. When I drove my sister's four banger, the radio got stolen. I later bought a 91 S-10 with that same 2.5 4 banger and that truck was indestructible.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You were the lucky one. lol Thanks for watching.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
It certainly got a lot better gas mileage than the Grand Cherokee.
@dcrasta
@dcrasta 2 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 72ish Vega wagon. I wanted a Citation x11 . Ended up gifted a Chevette. This video reminded me of my childhood desires. Thanks for the content.
@michelbeauloye4269
@michelbeauloye4269 2 жыл бұрын
Had an Olds Omega, a rebadged Citation, maybe a bit more luxurious, which I kept my usual 10 years. A very good looking head turning automobile. Never had serious technical issues. Just a broken window crank and quite a lot of rust on the lower body parts (due to salty roads in Northern European roads). The real weak point was the limited fuel tank capacity, which meant a maximum 350 km drive between filling up again. It ended up towing gliders at the nearby airfield with its V6 engine.
@TBustah
@TBustah Жыл бұрын
I’m rather surprised to hear that these made it to Europe. I would think there’d be too much overlap with Opel and Vauxhall (in fact, there were Opels and Vauxhalls based on the same platform as the Citation’s successor, the first gen Cavalier). Was yours a grey import left behind by a serviceman, maybe?
@michelbeauloye4269
@michelbeauloye4269 Жыл бұрын
@@TBustah You are right, these were rather rare in Europe. I bought mine new at the GM (mainly Opel) dealer in Luxembourg for an attractive price due to the favorable exchange rate with the US $.
@Walkercolt1
@Walkercolt1 2 жыл бұрын
Because the front struts punched thru the hood when the strut mounts rusted as the cars aged! I was driving a company car down a gravel oil rig road in Tejas, hit a sight wash-out in the road and did that! NEARLY turned the POS over!!! Had to wait in the 109* heat ( engine wouldn't run) for 3 1/2 hours for help to come down the road. They just shoved it off the side of the road with an oil field truck and let it rust to death-never tried to recover it.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Funny story. I'm sure it wasn't funny at the time. lol
@johnnikollaj496
@johnnikollaj496 2 жыл бұрын
Like most GM cars they weren't well thought out and killed any chance of it truly becoming successful. By the time the car was perfected it was far too late.
@tenfourproductionsllc
@tenfourproductionsllc 2 жыл бұрын
The Celebrity was the perfected version of it. Everything that was wrong in the Citation was right in the Celebrity.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 2 жыл бұрын
The 1980 models had teething problems that gave the car a bad reputation, but my parent's '81 was well put together and reliable. It was a lot of car for the money with more comfortable seating than the '75 Malibu they owned previously, a huge trunk and a decent combination of ride and handling. This car was really the trial version of the FWD A-body, which stayed in production for many years after the demise of the Citation. It's too bad that GM ceased to offer mid-sized hatchbacks after 1985; they offered a nice combination of economy and versatility.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you comments! Thanks for watching.
@dzim8822
@dzim8822 2 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1982 Chevy Citation two door with a manual 4 speed. It was a pretty decent car imo, pretty reliable in my experience. He said the 2 door was abandoned after 1981, but I had a1982 that was a coupe.
@gtpcruiser02
@gtpcruiser02 2 жыл бұрын
My in laws had a new 1980 canary yellow Citation. It was a nice vehicle except for a few oddities such as the roll up windows rolled up and down in reverse of what was normal and the radio was mounted vertical in the dash as if there wasn't enough room to mount it horizontal.
@andrewdonohue1853
@andrewdonohue1853 2 жыл бұрын
i once bought one of these cars for $75. the car was already quite old and this was years ago. the owner couldnt get it to idle. i replaced the faulty choke pull off and we drove it for a couple of years, sold it for $50. was one of the best deals we ever had. the bad part about the car, the floor was absolutely toast. most rotted floor i had ever seen, it was rotted when we bought it but for $75 i didnt care. the car never left us in a bind, in fact my mother drove it a summer because the transmission in her 96 taurus wagon failed and had to be rebuilt. the floors, sucked
@shawnaburns5158
@shawnaburns5158 2 жыл бұрын
Love and miss the looks of these ❤️💙 hard to find today
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect illustration of GMs thinking. Honda and Toyota looked at the big picture, thinking long term brand benefits of building quality. GMs bean counters thought saving money by making every single part as cheaply as possible was the way to go. I’m surprised GM is still around.
@Ogre302
@Ogre302 2 жыл бұрын
I have had a couple of these and I really liked them. Especially the V6 in the snow. The whole car felt solid and safe and the only real problem I had with the V6 was the transmission dipstick tube kept working its way loose. I was a dumb high school kid so I never bothered to actually find out WHY, as long as it ran. The 4 banger ate head gaskets like cookies.
@scottyallen9196
@scottyallen9196 Жыл бұрын
I knew someone back in the 80s that had a 82 red Citation. It was a awesome car. They drove it for eight years problem free.
@standhd
@standhd 2 жыл бұрын
“Now that’s more like it, more like it….The newwwwww…..Cheverlet…….” That was the jingle for the Citation I would hear on my dad’s car radio when he would take us to school. I was 11 when that car was released. I remember that car like it was yesterday.
@Sammydx1
@Sammydx1 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. Aug 1996 I turned 16 That May me and my Father found a Citation for 200 bucks. Sat for years. 2 door blue with a V6 auto. All summer me and my dad worked on it. Little here. Little there. By Aug it was running good. I started my Junior year and drove it for 2 years. Never broke down or left me stranded. Survived Chicago winters and me beating it all day.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Great read. Father and son project. Thanks for watching!
@rager1969
@rager1969 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the vertical radio was a thing. The only other car that had one was Corvettes from the 60's. Very few after market radios offered a vertical radio, so most would end up having the numbers for the radio frequency appear sideways when installed into a Citation. I remember my sister got a radio from Radio Shack that came with a second faceplate specifically for use when mounting vertically.
@knowbodiesfull5768
@knowbodiesfull5768 2 жыл бұрын
Late '60s to early '70s AMC Ambassadors also had a vertically-mounted radio. _(4/22/2022)_
@dannyhemphill1552
@dannyhemphill1552 2 жыл бұрын
Had the Pontiac version. Blew a head gasket at 30.000 miles. Still pisses me off after all these years
@ryankenyon5010
@ryankenyon5010 2 жыл бұрын
This was my buddy's first car when we were teens. It didn't run often.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Boca Brothers Classic Cars Thanks for watching and the comment! We're asking our viewers for a little help. Can you please subscribe if you haven't already? We can't tell who is and who is not. lol....Again, appreciate ya watching!
@tomsnyder6955
@tomsnyder6955 2 жыл бұрын
In high school, I had a 1981 , Chevrolet Citation 4 door hatchback
@drippinglass
@drippinglass 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry. Have you recovered from the trauma? 😀
@akr01364
@akr01364 2 жыл бұрын
My stepfather's grandfather had one. One day we realized he always drove like a bat out of hell in the thing. The speedo came disconnected and after trying for half a decade to get it fixed he just figured the speeding tickets were cheaper.
@jamese.morris2891
@jamese.morris2891 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 82 x11 back in the day...I loved it ..then I got a 87 Z24.Loved it even more.
@chriskrueger8225
@chriskrueger8225 2 жыл бұрын
The 87 Z24 was and still is a great looking car. My brother bought one brand new. It was blue, 5spd with the cowl hood. I loved that car!
@zortella
@zortella 2 жыл бұрын
My parents had one. The transmission started going out while we were on vacation. They only had it for a year or so when the issues started.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
There was a recall on some automatics in 1984 and I think some other years,they would start slipping after a few months from new.
@2W3X4YZ5
@2W3X4YZ5 2 жыл бұрын
NOW I KNOW I where Mitsuoka got the design idea for the Buddy. All the people buying them think they are the coolest thing on wheels. Little do they know. Side note, the first used car I sold was a Citation X11. Thanks for the video.
@toddmo1
@toddmo1 2 жыл бұрын
We had an 81 5 door sedan...my mother loved the way it went in the snow.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
My dad had one. Drove it till it died. Thanks for watching! Make sure and subscribe.
@mikefrank6319
@mikefrank6319 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of clarifications.The red X-11 shown as a 1981 model is actually a 1982 or later model.The 1981 had an egg crate grill that was different from the 1980 model, however the 1982 and later cars had the horizontal grille shown on the red X-11 in this clip.The 1981 X-11 received the H.O. 2.8 V6 with 135hp, compared with the 110 hp standard 2.8.The 1981 X-11 was the quickest car in the Chevrolet line up at the time as it had the135 hp H.O. and weighed 2500 lbs. where as the much heavier 3rd gen Camaros and Vettes had the anemic 5.0 small block with only 145 hp.The 81 X-11 accelerated to 60 mph in 9 seconds and covered the quarter mile in a "scorching" 17 seconds flat. It pulled .81 g on the skidpad with the new Goodyear GT's that Goodyear and Chevrolet developed specifically for the 1981 X-11.The 1982 Citation shared the floorpan with the upcoming Celebrity which changed the angle of the strut towers and the front geometry to reduce torque steer. Having campaigned a 1981 and a 1982 X-11 in showroom stock B class, I can attest to the fact that this made the car more composed yet noticeably less fun to pitch into the turns. I have a penchant for red Chevrolets, I wish I still had my 81 X-11 (it got totaled) and my 2002 Camaro SS. Time marches on.
@willhorting5317
@willhorting5317 2 жыл бұрын
My step-grandmother had a 4-door version. I don't recall what year it was. I just recall that it was red. And owned it for over 25 years, refusing to stop driving it until it just became more expensive to repair than replace.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Boca Brothers Classic Cars Thanks for watching and the comment! We're asking our viewers for a little help. Can you please subscribe if you haven't already? We can't tell who is and who is not. lol....Again, appreciate ya watching!
@Charliefox71
@Charliefox71 2 жыл бұрын
The bar was pretty low in 1980.
@michaelupton3107
@michaelupton3107 2 жыл бұрын
My mom had a white 1983 Chevy Citation four door hatchback, it used to be a state car when she bought it back in the summer of 1991😊❤👍
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you got some use out of it. City and state have high maintenance schedules. I know because I work for the City of San Antonio and my truck goes in or they shut my gas card down. lol
@michaelupton3107
@michaelupton3107 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisOldCarChannel she drove it up into about 1996 or 1997😊❤👍
@mattt198654321
@mattt198654321 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this narrator is going to sell me a kitchen gadget.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
And that's the power voice. Theater of the mind. lol. Yes...Radio personalities for over 25 years and just so happen to love cars! FYI...Up next is the Fox Body mustang. Thanks for watching.
@wrotenwasp
@wrotenwasp Жыл бұрын
Wow, reminds me of the last two years of high school. Those things were everywhere. I started to work in as a mechanic in 1985 so by then there were plenty of olders citations, phoenixes, omegas and skylarks. Michigan was hard on those front suspensions, salt was hard on the radiator. The heater core was somewhat common, water pumps, AC issues , electric cooling fan. But they weren't as nearly as common in the garage as allllllllllllllll the Ford tauruses and tempos we repaired.
@keetonkatt4621
@keetonkatt4621 2 жыл бұрын
I had a '80 Pontiac Phoenix hatchback that I special ordered (had to wait for it) with the V-6 and 4-speed. The car was very roomy and comfortable for its size, for both passengers and cargo. The V-6 was pretty peppy, especially compared to the malaise-era competition. Unfortunately, it had problems that couldn't be fixed. The 4-speed's cable shifter meant shifting was always clunky and the ratios were so wide that there were certain speeds where the engine was revving too high but would lug in the next gear. The front axle shafts leaked and couldn't be fixed due to the design. Then there were the brakes - every road test noted that the rear brakes would prematurely lock up on just moderately hard braking potentially causing loss of control of the vehicle and my car was affected by this. Sold the car after 2 1/2 years and bought a new Volvo 240.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
Rear brakes would lock up even with light braking on damp road until you got them warmed up,on the other hand once they faded they didn't have much power even under heavy braking putting better tires on the car helped,a recall did nothing to help except to limit the power of the rear brakes to very little even under panic braking but the rear brakes still grabbed when they were cool and damp
@bruschmidt9943
@bruschmidt9943 Күн бұрын
I ordered a new 1980 Skylark 4 Dr X-Car in April '79 & got it mid-June. Sales of these were nothing short of nuts then! I ordered most options with the 4 cylinder & 4 spd manual for maximum gas mileage. I'm a car Detailer & the first time I went over the exterior, I saw countless paint defects virtually on every body panel. The Dealership told me to circle the "few" spots with a body crayon, as they thought I was exaggerating. I brought the car in with circles marked all over the body & when they checked, saw they were legit. They resprayed the car with lacquer & afterwards it looked 10 times better than the factory orange-peel paint. The color was Claret Red, a deep metallic maroon. The vinyl top was also stained by the car leaking above it on the Car Loader. They replaced the Factory tan top with a Cadillac grade padded vinyl in gold; 10 times better than it was. At least Buick tried to make it right, but was upset because they had to pay for that 😡. I had no issues with the car & though it was smaller, it looked almost as good as a Cadillac Seville 😊
@tedlym.3390
@tedlym.3390 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Chevrolet Citation fondly, probably because I never owned one. Thank you,
@scottgordon600
@scottgordon600 2 жыл бұрын
My Mom's X-11 was fast as funk. Off the line with those mid-sixties and early seventies muscle cars it couldn't be beat. Up to 50m.p.h. that "little missile" couldn't be beat.
@toddberner9198
@toddberner9198 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with the comments pertaining to cars being a POS. Every decade had those runs, and every manufacturer did as well. The 80's can be blamed because of the lingering 1970s oil crisis. Mannys were hastily trying to introduce new lighter, cheaper, affordable models with good fuel economy....with that came quality issues. The speedy builds and some untried technologies created longevity and safety issues.
@vassa1972
@vassa1972 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@CraigArndt
@CraigArndt 2 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how long GM ran with that Iron Puke. Had one in a Pontiac Grand Am SE. Beautiful car. Too bad the Quad 4 wasn't released sooner, when that motor came out it was like GM finally could compete with Toyota and Honda.
@pascalolesen5187
@pascalolesen5187 2 жыл бұрын
WE lost one of these in Manhatten and never even called the tow trucks due to value lol
@JasonJones-br3or
@JasonJones-br3or 2 жыл бұрын
Lolz that's funny!
@HookMann88
@HookMann88 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a V6 Citation coupe for 150.00 from a gas station dealer. It lasted a month. Boy, I ripped him off.......lol.
@onlyme112
@onlyme112 3 жыл бұрын
Casey Kasem, welcome back!
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact. My brother and I were radio Djs for over 20 years. Casey....what a guy! Hey scoob!
@kudasaidozo
@kudasaidozo 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 1983 model. In the first month, I was travelling from Chicago to San Francisco when the Volts light came on. GM dealership in Wyoming wouldn't touch the car on a weekend, so I found a local mechanic. He told me the alternator was never properly assembled and got me back on the road. I went through many alternators with that car.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
Should have put an SI 15 in it.
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my 3 door 4 speed manual. I bought 2, 1 was for parts. Being 16 with a new license I basically lived in it because I loved to drive. Would come home long enough to shower, eat and was gone again just driving. The novelty of new independence and a license. Now I am 58 and I hate to even get in a car. My new Jeep Grand Cherokee 2019, only just over 2K. LOL.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate! My twin brother and I are 57. My first car ever was a 1973 Capri. I had it painted for $300 and I didn't care. I just drove! I bought a brand new Chevy Duramax Z-71 and that truck sits parked in the garage. I drive a 98 Honda accord to work and back! lol BTW....Those Grand Cherokees are sweet! Thanks for watching!
@scottleyva8656
@scottleyva8656 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember the commercial jingle. Chevy CiTaTION!
@darrellrobinson2833
@darrellrobinson2833 2 жыл бұрын
Had one in college and i loved that car. The hatch back was so handy going back and forth home. Drove very smooth and was comfortable. Also had a Vega that was nice, the engine was crap.
@jeffreyrepace785
@jeffreyrepace785 Жыл бұрын
These cars were notorious for brake problems. They were innovative...1st Chevy w/front wheel drive. My Mom ALMOST bought one, but opted for the '80 Malibu. Unfortunately, that car was a nightmare w/electrical problems. Last Chevy she bought for a long time...we switched to K-cars and such, which will a bit more dependable (far from perfect tho'). NO surprise that reliable Hondas and Toyotas rose to the top of the heap!
@jamespn
@jamespn 2 жыл бұрын
The Citation X11 was quick with the V6 engine and manual transmission.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had one today!
@05gtdriver
@05gtdriver 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the notchback version of the X11 was a sharp looking car, by the time Chevy worked the bugs out(well, at least made the Citation line somewhat better) they replaced it with the Corsica/Beretta line a few years later.
@jamespn
@jamespn 2 жыл бұрын
@@05gtdriver in 1984, I test drove a Cadillac Cimarron with a 2.8 liter V6 and it was quick, the salesman said that they’ve had one or two with a manual transmission and those are even faster.
@05gtdriver
@05gtdriver 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamespn In 1986 I raced a Z24 Cavalier 2.8 H.O. in my '73 Capri 2600 V6 and it pulled away from me around 80mph, I was impressed because my Capri was breathed on a bit with headers a bigger carb and re-curved ignition.
@johnmcmullen456
@johnmcmullen456 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I had a new 1984 Thunderbird Turbocoupe. A kid at a red-light tried to run me with his X11 with big tires and load exhaust. He lost badly, should have been close.
@artdude8059
@artdude8059 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 1980 4 cylinder Chevy citation for 350.00 in 1996. I drove it ALL over 3 states. It lasted 4 years, and the repairs costed Under 300.00. After it played out the odometer read: 437,295.9.... IMPRESSIVE!!!
@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN
@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Drove one when I was young!
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@Catloverplayer
@Catloverplayer 2 жыл бұрын
I had the 85 version and mine had severe overheating issues. It didn't come with a temperature gage. You didn't know it was hot until the hot light came on. I had to have the thermostat and heater core replaced cause of overheating but after that the car continued to overheat. I believe the head gasket was blown. There were no issues with coolent leaks or bad hoses. I finally traded it in on for a Ford Escourt.
@Just-a-guy926
@Just-a-guy926 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1980 Buick Skylark with the 2.8 V6. Traded it in 1986 for a Mazda 323.
@halaheleu7013
@halaheleu7013 2 жыл бұрын
This car was in the Movie Blind Vision made in Norfolk Va.
@josenazario3658
@josenazario3658 2 жыл бұрын
My father almost bought one in 1980 but decided to go with a 1979 Caprice 2dr. Beautiful car
@JimmyG3237
@JimmyG3237 2 жыл бұрын
I miss mine!! Wish I had another one.
@geraldsmith8152
@geraldsmith8152 2 жыл бұрын
My mom had one, as a kid I called it the "C" car because of how it was shaped lol
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Come to think about it, sure does look like it. Ha!
@andrewjacobson556
@andrewjacobson556 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioned it, this was my first car and I did the same!!🤣🤣
@mgmnfld3109
@mgmnfld3109 2 жыл бұрын
Had a Pontiac Phoenix back in the 80's. Same, same, just different...lol.
@67marlins
@67marlins 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a Ford & Mopar fan, I wish GM had better durability and quality underneath the X cars' excellent stying. I was a kid then, and the X cars were simply beautiful compared to the foreign junk. Beautifully balanced stying, an extremely elegant transition from GM large vehicle good looks and small car reality.
@genoaoak
@genoaoak 2 жыл бұрын
Living in Northern Illinois, we had these as company cars. We used to have to clamp the fuel line with Vice Grips first thing in the morning on cold days so they didn't flood while we tried to start them. Had the heater core blow out on the interstate dumping scalding coolant on my passengers feet, he wasn't happy. I used to be a GM only guy, this car changed that.
@CarsandCats
@CarsandCats 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad was close friends with the owner of the local Chevy dealer, so we spent a lot of time there. I remember when the Citation X-11 came out and we went to look at it. Dad's response, "You've got to be kidding me..."
@mickeymet6973
@mickeymet6973 Жыл бұрын
I worked for a couple of Buick stores during the time frame the X-body emerged, and died. Our Buick Skylark, was also an X-Body car (like the Citation), and Monday's were days of dread in the parts and service departments. On Monday mornings, there was a consistent line of Skylark's attached to tow trucks that led out of our Service Drive and out into the street, and occasionally down that street for quite a ways. They were terrible cars! Intermixed with the X-bodies on hooks were the GM cars (and trucks) equipped with the dreaded 5.7L diesel engines. It was a really bad time to be a GM dealer. No matter what the new car was that was sold, you could expect it back on a hook. (The J-car Skyhawk had the shudder in the steering column, amongst other things, so they didn't escape the hooks either!)
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 2 жыл бұрын
Some of those "fuel injection" were fuel injection in the carburetor ("Izzacarb" as heard on Click and Clack) by 1982 or so some of the problems with the underdeveloped rear brake system and the mounting of the steering rack (body vs. engine cradle) may have been solved but remained what should have been a very good car with poor or slipshod assembly qualilty. Not sure if any of them came off the line with loose cylinder head bolts but intake manifold bolts,starter mounting bolts,various suspension mounting hardware could be left untorqued or loose. Don't know whether the failing power steering rack problem was only in the first year or if all of them could have it. Lack of a filter in the power steering fluid/pump circuit? Also if mysterious performance complaints developed it wasn't a bad idea to try substituting a new ignition module before paying out a whole lot of money for diagnosis,carburetor rebuild,etc. Of course the newer ones "CCC" could have problems with such things as throttle position sensors,pressure or airflow sensors (don't remember which kind it had) the 2.5 was basically an uninspiring tractor motor but it was pretty dependable some 2.8 seemed to be more powerful than others even if not the "H.O." style also some of them developed a liking for high test gasoline although they were not supposed to require it. If I remember Snap On's double jointed spark plug getter socket made getting out the rear plugs doable,also you could disconnect a top dogbone engine mount thing,and with the brake off and the car in gear or Park(don't try it unless on a perfectly level surface and don't start the engine!) and by gently pushing the car slightly forward or backward you could make the engine lean forward a little bit and make more room to get the rear spark plugs (V6)
@atomicorang
@atomicorang Ай бұрын
❤ Citations were all over the place along with Buick and Pontiacs I was different and bought the 81 Escort..1.6 lliter with a stick...Had AM radio and no a/c. Red with steel wheels 2dr hatch. I loved that thing. My first enlistment Airforse my best friends mother in law has a 2 dr Citation. They really liked it alot.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@gsprings43
@gsprings43 2 жыл бұрын
got my learners permit in one of these back in 85 in high school
@frankburns8871
@frankburns8871 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty respectable ack-selleration numbers for the time and market segment.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
The X11 Thanks for watching and the comments! Please help us out by subscribing to our channel if you're not already one? Michael - Boca Brothers
@scottcannon8060
@scottcannon8060 2 жыл бұрын
84 citation is what we had for a driver's ed car
@bryang9290
@bryang9290 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine owned an X11, that would be a cool car to find in nice shape today. I owned a ugly brown 4 door that never quite worked right. They didn’t seem to rust though.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the X11s were so cool!
@sasz2107
@sasz2107 2 жыл бұрын
When the Chevy Citation was introduced in 1980, the Toyota Camry did not exist. They were introduced in 1983. The Honda Accord had only been around since 1978.
@jamesdennis2058
@jamesdennis2058 2 жыл бұрын
The Honda Accord came out in 1976
@radioshack3839
@radioshack3839 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind this is a history from 80 to 85.
@nolarobert
@nolarobert 2 жыл бұрын
The X-Cars were rushed out by GM before the engineering issues were addressed. I had the great misfortune of owning the Pontiac version of the X-Car, the Phoenix. It suffered from numerous problems. The automatic transmission failed twice. The engine would die at stops. The 2.5-liter engine was anemic when paired with the 3-speed automatic. There were a plethora of X-Cars on the road in the early to mid-Eighties. Then they just disappeared. I haven't seen one on the road in several decades.
@crankychris2
@crankychris2 2 жыл бұрын
Just like the VW beetle. They are almost 100% junked.
@Andyface79
@Andyface79 2 жыл бұрын
@@crankychris2 I still see Old Beetles around sometimes as classics. These? Not since the early 90s.
@charleywade3185
@charleywade3185 2 жыл бұрын
Dad gave me his 1980 four door. Traded in for two door. Vertical radio was funny.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
My had had a 1980 4 door company car. I remember it being in the shop often. lol Thanks for watching Charley!
@charleywade3185
@charleywade3185 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisOldCarChannel Thank you for providing the flashback. Funny, the car my parents gave me was silver. The two door I got was silver. Three months later with four tens facing up, I removed rear fold down seat, built a wall behind the front seats with four twelves running about two thousand watts. This is in like 92. Straight thunder. You def heard me comin.
@crazybear5475
@crazybear5475 2 жыл бұрын
my folks had a two-tone paint job of black and gold. it was loaded.
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Black and Gold is my favorite combo, especially on the 1978 Formula Firebird. 😃😀 Thanks for watching.
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