Awesome. Thanks for the kind words. You're the first one to notice the Fisher Price reference, or comment on it at least.

Thanks for the info Nathan!

Nathan Hamilton Spirit is 2,5 mm stroke

Not it isn't, look it up

Nathan Hamilton better if you go to check the tech data of the cheyenne spirit, it is 2,5 mm stroke, that's because it's so good for B/G. Your other info is correct.

spirit 2.5 mm, thunder 4mm and pen 3.5mm. By the way!

Haven't tried that. Thanks

Thanks man! Ill try that

I suppose your'e right. Never thought to try it. Thanks

Łukasz D.P.G.Channel This is misinformation, the Thunder does have a 4mm stroke, it always has and has never had 3.5mm stroke.

You're welcome. Thanks for watching

I'm still a fan of the thunder as well. Thanks for the feedback

Thanks for watching. I'm glad the video helped out.

Thanks for the advice. I'll lube the o rings up and see if that helps

Thanks. I agree. The squeak is worse if you turn it fast.

I was going to say the same thing. That first o ring is for friction so that your needle depth doesn't move around on you. I have the pen and love it

Great work Nath, cheers big ears

Thanks Nathan. I agree on avoiding the lubrication. Don't want that thing spinning around while I'm working

I agree about the click although, after using it for the last 6 months, I can say that it really hasn't been an issue. Thanks

i was considering getting one and not using the hawk but so many people say its not worth it that have the hawk already , after using it for 6 months do you find it to be a worthwhile investment ?

I like that you mention difference in the Watts on the machines!! This is the info I have been looking for. More people should be talking about the watts or the amps in the motor, than the voltage!! Thanks for the info!!

Edzis2k9 yea mine was like his I thought I got ripped off

Cheyenne came out with a upgraded version better motor and a cover over the jack input that’s why

Cool. Thanks. I'll take a look at it

Thanks. I'll take a look at that video and maybe link to it so people can see what they recommend.

Thank you!

Thanks a lot

sarahdawn3 thanks a lot!

Yeah. It was something I didn't expect when I bought the machine but I like being able to move back on the grip

when you shade what voltage are do you have it set on and are you doing a single needle ?

Hilarious!

lol

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see what I can do. I don't have access to that many machines and I doubt the manufacturers want to start mailing them out to me for reviews. I'll do my best though.

We get this question a lot and I would like to talk to Cheyenne about their recommendations. I wrap it to the edge of the grip and clean the edge and interior with matacide. I try not to spray it directly on the machine as I don't want it in contact with the motor.

+Fireside Tats I was going to ask this as well. I know that even in the area where I live the health board says that this is a acceptable standard in place of autoclaving it. Obviously Matacide or Cavicide is used on everything that can't be autoclaved. This would be a interesting topic for a video.

I run it around 6.5-7v for most everything but that's just my preference. I know artists that run it over 10v. I would just suggest experimenting until you find a voltage that works with the way you move your hand

Thanks

Get an Inkjecta Flite instead. The thunder has a set stroke and no give. The Flite has 4 stroke options and adjustable give from no give to softer than soft. Not saying the thunder isn't a great machine but it's not very versatile. Get a Flite with the Cheyenne adjustable grip and you'll be selling your coil machines in a month.

Never tried the Flite but sounds like a compelling argument. Thanks

Yep. That's what is was

grease a little bit with vaseline that 2 o rings and and it will not squeak any more ;)

Subversion Films my coworker has the pen and It squeaks.

Maybe so.

Id say run a bishop rotary v6 with a ergo click grip from darklab.

Awesome. THanks

Thanks! I have had no issues at all with the pen yet. Haven't had to replace anything

keith Hancock really appreciate it 👍

Thanks a lot. I haven't had any issues with the pen yet

I rarely need to touch up color but I think it comes with the experience of doing it over and over. Did you see the last episode where we covered getting solid blends of color?

Yes I have watched every one now,Ill just keep trying. I just worry about over working it ,yellow is my biggest struggle.

Thanks a lot. I simply secure the plastic barrier with a good bit of coban around the grip. Between tattoos, I remove the grip from the machine and clean with matacide. I feel like it is as effective as every other surface i clean at my station. Thanks again

Fireside Tattoo Network so you don't have to autoclave the pens grip just cover it good and clean it with maldicide?

THanks a lot. I haven't used the spirit but I'm sure someone can offer some insight.

I have been told the same thing. I personally don't feel much, if any, difference. However, It has been 8 months or so since I've used the Thunder. I should probably break it back out to see if I can tell any difference before I make that claim.

Tattoo Improvement thanks bud. If u do please let me know. Also I found ur channel yesterday and u r a very great teacher and the content on ur channel is very practical and applicable. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks a lot.

Sushil Gorkhe thanks. You don't have to use the cheyenne power supply but if you use another brand of power supply you'll need their power block adapter (I forget the actual name). I think it costs around $30-40.

Jake Meeks thanks for your reply ....after reading the customer complaints about Cheyenne thunder hawk on their page, I've bought the cheyyene power supply. Hopefully, I have a great experience with this new machine. I'm a beginner and it's my first tattoo machine.

They are autoclavable but I don't autoclave them. I wrap them with a machine sleeve and cover that with coban. This still could leave the inside of the grip where the cartridge seats open to possible contamination so I disassemble and use matacide wipes for the inside. This seems to be the common practice from what I see of other artists using these machines. I think FK irons is making disposables but I don't know if they fit the cheyenne. Thanks for watching

see answer above

the pen style rotary is so nice...I felt like I was cheating the first few times..I said the exact same thing..."its like tattooin with a sharpie!"

No problem. I have grown to like the pen quite a bit over the last month or so since I shot the video. But it's really not that big of a change from the thunder

+Fireside Tats thanks. hey do you think the thunder can do thick traditional lines? i line with coils im afraid of lining with a rotary.

I think it would pull thick lines pretty well. I don't typically work with large single pass lines but I think it would do the job

Absolutely. Thanks for watching

Thanks!

The pen specifically. Although you said they hit the same.

Thanks a lot. I personally don't work in a very traditional approach but I feel like they would both work fine. I sometimes use loose round shaders running at a slightly higher voltage than normal and get very solid, bold lines. Thanks again for watching

IVEL & OLRA the pen is really great for traditional tattoos in my opinion because it is really easy and nice to make solid and fluid lines, doesnt matter if you want to use 1,3,5,7 or a 9 rl it is all working great. and for colour packing there is nothing that will pack in the colour so birght and fast like the hawk pen, on low voltage like 8,5-9,5 and causing really low skin trauma. i really love it for neo traditional and traditional, its good for every style i think, but since i switched to hawk pen from bci coil machines my lines are more constant, i can work much faster and my colorwork is unbelievable bright and looks fantastic, love the machine. but the proton equaliser (kawdron pen) should do the job same for less money, havent tested it yet but only heard good things and seed some really nice traditional and black grey tattoos done with the kwadron pen

Does it happen a lot? I would think that would be more of a cartridge issue than a machine issue but if it is happening with all cartridges, I would contact Cheyenne. Maybe the bar is bent and causing the cartridge to malfunction? I don't know

Just gonna answer my own question, nope i dont need it. its been working fine without the start up /booster cable.

Good. Glad you were able to answer it because I had no idea!

I haven't had any issues with the pen. Good luck though

A little lubricant does the trick. Thanks

Whatever voltage works for you to get good results is fine. I know people that run the pen around 12-13v and make nice tattoos. THanks for watching!

Yes. Thanks for watching

Thanks for watching!

Cheyenne recommends their own supply but I use the booster with my Eikon and have had no issues. I know several people who use it with Critical supplies as well

They are. And all the proprietary stuff like the cord and power block doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Thanks

they are germans.. not chinese .. :) expensive workers.

you can't buy Jordan's at Wal-mart. They last and are great machines

Steve Gray what are they called and where can I find

Adrian Idso Yilong Hybrid Pens. and Amazon.

Adrian Idso I just bought the Papa Pen off the Nuclear supply truck for $434.78..in my opinoion it hits just a lil softer n smoother than the Cheyenne.

@@sidscifi shit

@@vadims331 I agree there are some that are shit. But there are some nice ones too.

Thanks

I'm normally between 6.5-7v. I know people who run them at 12 or higher

Thanks. I'll do that.