ChiaoGoo Forté 2.0 review - another overpriced fail?

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NimbleNeedles

NimbleNeedles

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This video reviews the new Chiagoo Forté 2.0 interchangeable knitting needles to see if they are worth the high price point!
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The Forté interchangeable knitting needle set is ChiaoGoo's attempt to produce both a luxury needle set and finally some hardwood needles. While their first attempt failed, the second version exchanged the blackwood for carbon in smaller sizes.
They are manufactured flawlessly and the (fake) leather pouches also spell premium. However, it's the final detail where this set fails: The tips are kind of squarish and not as sharp as the standard needles. The new swivel cables constantly catch the yarn and, at least in my set, quality control didn't spot some obvious flaws. If the set was half the price, I could definitely recommend it to looser kniters who prefer simpler patterns. As it is, I cannot recommend buying the ChiaoGoo Forté set.
0:00 Introducing the ChiaoGoo Forté set and why there is version 2.0
2:12 Unboxing the ChiaoGoo Forté set
7:09 The needles/stalk
12:35 The tips
14:14 The joins
16:51 The cables
20:52 Other accessories
25:09 Knitting qualities of the ChiaoGoo Forté set
31:24 Comparison with Lantern Moon needles
33:45 Summary
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@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Please always remember: We all knit with a different style, our hands have different sizes (and there might be other physical differences/limitations), we prefer different yarns & projects, and our general preferences might differ on top of that. As a result, needles I like might be ill-suited for you and vice versa. Needles that are well in your budget might not be in mine. So, when we as a knitting community talk about knitting needles, we should always comment from a place of personal preference and never generalize personal likes as absolutes.
@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts
@JustFluffyQuiltingYarnCrafts 5 ай бұрын
That is fair and true. I appreciate you saying this. I trust your reviews A LOT and will not purchase a set of needles that do not get a glowing review from you. 😍 Thank you for all of your hard work and research. ❤
@Sophira1
@Sophira1 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for such a thorough and fair review ❤
@jennifergomez8260
@jennifergomez8260 5 ай бұрын
I love my Seeknit, have you ever considered a review? Even though I know that you are metal needle person for those of us that are not metal I think they’re the best option. Good quality, good ethics.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
@@jennifergomez8260 I'm kinda hesitant. I kinda..i dunno...since I don't knit with bamboo at all, I just feel that I couldn't give you a useful feedback. My feedback would probably be "this is horribly slow, sticky and the tips are way too blunt". haha...which wouldn't exactly be helpful :P
@jennifergomez8260
@jennifergomez8260 5 ай бұрын
@@NimbleNeedles it’s part of what I’m curious about because they created a heat pressure process that makes them the closest to metal. I myself switched from metal to them, but hate any other wood needles. I had many customers at my LYS who did also. But I understand what you’re saying that would be like me doing a review on a non-articulating ICN - all garbage😂
@eileentomaro768
@eileentomaro768 5 ай бұрын
I am blown away by this price. Outrageously expensive.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
It's certainly no budget friendly option. If I couldn't deduct this as a company expense (and get vat reimbursed on top of that)..i'm not sure if I had bought them!
@karenhenderson4546
@karenhenderson4546 5 ай бұрын
And in Australia, they are $575 Au!
@rhondacutler6712
@rhondacutler6712 5 ай бұрын
@@karenhenderson4546 Fellow Aussie here. Who would even carry them here? The whole set is ridiculously overpriced, imho.
@tl4214
@tl4214 5 ай бұрын
@NimbleNeedles Even with the business deduction and VAT reimbursement, you still paid up front. Thank you!
@alisonwynne1794
@alisonwynne1794 5 ай бұрын
£365 in the UK!!
@antoniavanrijt1358
@antoniavanrijt1358 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Norman! I didn't know about the controversy around this set but recently got an email from my local yarn shop that they are taking preorders for it, and in my local currency after the exchange rate and everything it's $550! I was absolutely shocked! For $550 it better do my knitting for me, weave in all the ends automatically, and magically block the finished objects :,)
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
😅 I think some used knitting machines are actually cheaper!
@rickandheidiclaeys3113
@rickandheidiclaeys3113 5 ай бұрын
I just sold my "like new" bulky knitting machine for $400!@@NimbleNeedles
@wagonwitch
@wagonwitch 17 күн бұрын
I agree in Au$ it’s nearly 600. 😮
@angeliqueschmidts2555
@angeliqueschmidts2555 5 ай бұрын
I love that you’re not sponsored by Chiaogoo or anyone so can give us an honest unbiased review. Thank you ❤
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Always. I honestly think that one cannot do un unbiased review ans be sponsored. Why bite off the hand that feeds you?
@oliviabees
@oliviabees 5 ай бұрын
I can totally respect the fact that different needles exist at different price points, but $375 for a set is just a little mind boggling! I think the case it comes in is lovely, but not worth $200 more than other sets.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Well, I think the case is what matters little if the contents are not just exciting. These needles actually feel worse than the normal CG tips 😓
@MrsGump
@MrsGump 5 ай бұрын
They're selling in New Zealand for $575-600 a set!! I just can't justify spending that - especially as I'm only a beginner knitter but even as an experienced knitter I just couldn't spend that amount!
@resourcedragon
@resourcedragon 5 ай бұрын
@@MrsGump: Yikes! I think one also needs to look at the sizes one is and isn't getting in the case. Most of my knitting is fine or very fine, so I want to start at the old British 14 gauge (2 mm) and go up by 1/4 mm increments to about British size 8, as I rarely use anything larger*. The Forte set doesn't have the small sizes I need and it has some large sizes I'm never going to use. * Typically, I work on pairs of single pointed needles, yes, I'm old fashioned. I have a stack of larger needles in my collection, including some I inherited from my mother. Why we bought those larger sizes is a mystery, as Mum never used them and I don't use them!
@louiseberman4241
@louiseberman4241 5 ай бұрын
Crikey!!!! How on earth are people going to afford that. I have knit pro zing needles. I had them for a present. Cost around £35 for the set. I wouldn't have spent that much on myself but for a present it is acceptable. I love my needles! I have straight and circular.
@marjoriesolomon4955
@marjoriesolomon4955 5 ай бұрын
I really love my Knitter’s Pride needles with Lantern Moon swivel cords. It’s the perfect combo for me. I don’t see anything in the forte set that tempts me to change. Even if I could afford it, I’d rather spend the money on yarn.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Seems like a wise decision! ☺️
@luciewager7359
@luciewager7359 5 ай бұрын
I use exactly the same system! It’s perfect. Love my Knitters Pride
@IamJocie
@IamJocie 5 ай бұрын
How is the lantern moon swivels compared to the knitter's prides ones?
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
@@IamJocie Lantern Moon is a subbrand. So they are interchangeable. Same as Lykke, etc. All the same company
@mimmilundstrom5041
@mimmilundstrom5041 5 ай бұрын
@@NimbleNeedles Thank you for that extra little piece of information! I had no idea 😁 Have you considered trying Hobbii’s semi-new blue sets of interchangable needles?
@mandyrawlinson7687
@mandyrawlinson7687 5 ай бұрын
I bought one of the original Forte sets sight unseen. I am so disappointed in it and I was thrilled to see you review this set though you did have the 2.0 set. The snagging while you are knitting killed all of my joy knitting. I don’t use them at all. I bought them convinced that their reputation meant they would be the highest quality. Lesson learned! I wish I had purchased $300.00 worth of yarn and just stuck with my fixed red lace Chiaogoo needles instead.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
maybe you can re-sell or trade them on Ravelry? there''s a CG fan group there
@yolyrom7233
@yolyrom7233 5 ай бұрын
Why couldn’t you return them jc
@darlenevloet778
@darlenevloet778 5 ай бұрын
Really appreciate you spending the time and money😮 to show these needles. I really enjoy my original Chiaogoo interchangable needles and after seeing your review, I can see I do not need the Forté needles. Great video as always!😊
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
heh. No, I personally will stick to my regular CGs as well :P
@janetlepre7555
@janetlepre7555 5 ай бұрын
What a thorough and intelligent analysis. I agree with your assessment of this fine, yet very expensive knitting needles. Thank you for taking the time to share such a clear and detailed analysis. it is greatly appreciated!!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Always happy to help ☺️
@yolyrom7233
@yolyrom7233 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@maryarneson5815
@maryarneson5815 5 ай бұрын
I checked on the wood they are manufactured from, African black wood, it is a listed wood, endangered. When I posed this question on a retailers page they quickly stated its from reclaimed wood and deleted my question shortly after. So do we believe manufacturers in China are strictly using reclaimed African black wood to mass produce knitting needles?
@roseandra1
@roseandra1 5 ай бұрын
The Chinese government is shady. They rip off our designers daily and nothing happens to them. I refuse to buy anything endangered.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Well, now I know that these kind of ethical considerations are less of a concern in China. And of course, it would have to be reclaimed wood, otherwise they'd have problems to important them into Europe. That being said, when it comes to China, I'd not trust what it says on the label. There's tons of chinese 100% cashmere yarns that have little to do with actual cashmer...other than being spun in the same factory ^^. You can also see great divergences in the steel quality when you look at different sets (say the Minis and the standard red twist). That'S probably because they are using different manufacturers and/or blanks from different manufacturers. I never was able to contact CG with my emails (nor HiyaHiya). That, in and by itself, says a lot, sadly.
@NYKnitter
@NYKnitter 5 ай бұрын
At one point when someone asked about the wood , they were told ................... the black wood used is slivers of wood left over from making other things (someone if I remember correctly , used example of pianos) Seems if the smaller needles are breaking, and they have replaced majority of them with a different material , perhaps not the best quality or source was used in the original set
@catawbacats
@catawbacats 5 ай бұрын
They are manufactured in the US. They are using scraps from musical instruments and they continue to recycle. Love Chiagoo!
@maryarneson5815
@maryarneson5815 5 ай бұрын
@@catawbacats and every person I've spoken to has a different story of their manufacture. Funny how that works.
@SinfulZin
@SinfulZin 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Norman! As a relatively new knitter I'm always excited to learn more about new products, as well as the already established kits. I really, really appreciate your honest reviews. I learn so much from them, and it's easy when you're new at something to be willing to sink a lot of money into it with the hope that it will make you better and I appreciate you cutting through the marketing hype and give us the honest answers. I always look forward to your content.
@mollymollie6048
@mollymollie6048 5 ай бұрын
I agree with you and want to add a thanks also to Norman for investing money and doing in-depth, thorough reviews and comparisons…also with compassion and kindness for people having different needs, wants and likes in their knitting tools. Thanks, Norman, for being honest, giving your biases, and working very hard to provide the knitting community with valuable information in a kind and respectful way.
@avrilcleland6728
@avrilcleland6728 5 ай бұрын
Knitting is like any other skill yes the tools help and there are better and worse but from experience I've learnt that expensive does not always mean better. As for buying sets of needles..... there's no point in that for me I'd end up with sizes that would never be used.
@patiharville8210
@patiharville8210 5 ай бұрын
Never seen any needle set worth that price. Thank you for sharing your expert & honest reviews! ❤
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
well. I really fell in love with the signature needle arts dpns where one set costs (or rather cost) 65 USD. So they were pricey but I really love them!
@lolam.9291
@lolam.9291 5 ай бұрын
Loved your comment and expression at the end 🤣… Thank you for the review!!❤️
@TheEhuang
@TheEhuang 5 ай бұрын
@@NimbleNeedles - Norman, did you know they once made 2.00 mm size DPNs? It was the only size that was surgical steel (they manufactured surgical equipment) and not color coded. I lost one needle and am so afraid to lose any of the remaining 4 so I NEVER leave the house with them.
@heathersgoinnuts
@heathersgoinnuts 5 ай бұрын
I just found 9 sizes of Chiagoo fixed circular knitting needles still packaged in the thrift store and got them all for 9 us dollars. I was so ecstatic. I am always on the search for knitting supplies at thrift stores. I would never pay over 200 for knitting needles. At least right now. One time I found a knitting needle case full of these really nice wooden Straight needles and some dpns. I got them all for 15 dollars at the thrift store.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
what a great find!
@northerngail0385
@northerngail0385 5 ай бұрын
After I'd been knitting for awhile and decided to invest in a set of interchangeable needles. I purchased the Knitter's Pride Kindness set and have been really pleased with them. I thought they were a really good value and the cables are similar to Chao Goo's. Even with their reputation I just think $375.00 is just out of the reach of a lot of us hobby knitters.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
definitely. I mean, not all sets need to cater to the needs of EVERY knitter..but still...i do believe this is taxing the limit a bit too far.
@soolee8747
@soolee8747 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this! I love my regular Chiaogoo Twist (metal) interchangeable set, which I bought on sale many years ago for $100. Getting it was a big deal on my then-student budget, but it was easily the best investment I’ve ever made in my knitting. What a shame that the same company is now selling something for almost 4 times the price, but which lacks sufficient care and attention to detail.
@Liadanek
@Liadanek 5 ай бұрын
I'm very happy that the algorithm suggested this review to me. I was planning to buy this set, although I already have a full set of chiaogoo needles, including minis and shorties. You convinced me that I would rather spend that money on yarns instead of buying another set just because it's LOOKS so nice.
@carenkohler6410
@carenkohler6410 5 ай бұрын
You took the words right of my mouth.. I'm so glad that I didn't purchase this set.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
That seems like a good idea. I don't think this set brings anything to the table you might need
@ch5449
@ch5449 5 ай бұрын
I have had the Twist red lace set 11 years and love it. I bought the shorter tips and cables in smaller needle sizes to get 16” needles. All fit in the fabric case well. It was expensive when I bought it, a treat, that is well used.
@ginninadances
@ginninadances 5 ай бұрын
Let's just talk about that wonderfully exclusive sweater that you are wearing today! YES!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Haha..I thought it was quite fitting 😅
@kithg
@kithg 5 ай бұрын
@@NimbleNeedles It looks like it fits perfectly. I can’t imagine you knitting anything that doesn’t! 😉
@neroliraff5712
@neroliraff5712 5 ай бұрын
I thought Norman made it and I was going to ask for the pattern source!❤
@collenelollar2425
@collenelollar2425 5 ай бұрын
Was really wanting to purchase this set. Took your advice and will keep my regular Chicagoo
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
I think you are not making a big mistake there. I mean, with time, I think you'll be able to buy single tips or single cables. Maybe try them out. There were many who said they kinda liked the original forté set (when the needles didn't break that is).
@denisevettraino7916
@denisevettraino7916 5 ай бұрын
After watch your review. Norman, the only way I could justify buying an expensive set of ChiaoGoo needles is if they were all carbon, no wood, with lace tips and includes all sizes say up to 8mm and both red and silver cables ! Maybe someday in the near future the company will work out all the kinks and make us truly happy to spend nearly 400$...Thanks for the honest and thorough review of this product...Love your sweater❣
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
yeah, I think that would have been a bit more consistant. 12 cables, all carbon stalks, all lace tips, and ditching the uncessary accessories. for...say...250 USD. Then it would be a consideration...
@leahnichol6665
@leahnichol6665 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for taking one for the team. ❤. That is a whole lot of cash for prestige purposes only. I only use wooden needles to slow myself down and knit cotton or silk. So, lace knitting or cotton. I don’t knit cotton very often so I wouldn’t be interested in a whole set of needles like that. I am grateful so see how you judge the needles. That is most helpful. 😊
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
I think the Latern moon needles might be better there! maybe order some test tips (not sure if they offer them, tho)
@aimeewalters4861
@aimeewalters4861 5 ай бұрын
I'm totally happy with the interchangeable set I already have. I'm not looking for another, but it is interesting to see this new one.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! Besides the whole point if a set is that your are set for life..or at least the next then years!
@spookynoctua
@spookynoctua 5 ай бұрын
Another great video as always! Thank you for your unbiased opinion on this set and for going through all the testing, even on two different yarn weights. This set was a bit out of my price range but as a fan of ChiaoGoo, I was interested in hearing about how they functioned and whether they were worth the lofty price tag. Thank you again, Norman!
@crc532
@crc532 5 ай бұрын
oh Norman. I love your videos. I absolutely trust you! Thanks so much.
@ruthm1384
@ruthm1384 5 ай бұрын
The square tips hurt my fingertips. That's what I've noticed. Mine are a different brand, but with similar squarish tips. I really don't like them, compared to the more traditional, rounded tips. I'm a tight knitter too, and enjoy complicated patterns. Another problem I have with the interchangeable cables, is that no matter how well I think I have tightened the connecting screw, mine always becomes loose at some point and that's when the yarn REALLY gets caught. And it's such a pain to try to tighten the screw while the stitches are covering it. But I can't get them out of the way before I can tighten the screw first! 😵‍💫
@teripersing
@teripersing 5 ай бұрын
This is a great review, Norman. I especially appreciate your thoroughness and attention to detail. I believe I’ll stick with my regular Chiaogoo And lantern moons sets. Thanks, you are a star!
@wendyellis6402
@wendyellis6402 5 ай бұрын
Same for me.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't argue with that!
@DrJones-theoriginal
@DrJones-theoriginal 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to review these. You are fair and unbiased. The points you raised are useful to decide when deciding on which needles to use in a project and whether to invest in yet another style or pair. Well done those local yarn shops who stock a good variety and allow their patrons to test knit with them.
@JACLevair
@JACLevair 5 ай бұрын
❤ Excellent and thorough review of the 2.0 I bought the original Forte set and I am very happy with it. They do seem to work well for me personally. I did have one 4 mm needle break and they replaced it immediately. I sent them a picture via email. The replacement needle came in the mail right away but it was not packaged as safely as it should have been and that surprised me. I find the tips an excellent taper and to me they are sleek and fast and my yarn is not catching with my Forte (but it does a lot on their bamboo set). I have arthritis in my hands and the first day I started using them I used them for hours with no hand or wrist pain. All the best, Joyce
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
happy to hear the original set works so well for you. And yeah, i can see how these warm, non metall stalks work well for people with wrist pain.
@barbaradecker8272
@barbaradecker8272 5 ай бұрын
Your reviews are awesome Norman. Thank you
@chrisd487
@chrisd487 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Norman..you are so thorough and your opinion is definitely valued! ❤
@EverythingBekka
@EverythingBekka 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 You are saving us money 💰 & bringing us joy with every stitch you make!! Love your videos ❤
@cherylhaupt4692
@cherylhaupt4692 5 ай бұрын
What a good and complete review! I appreciate your honesty! 🥰
@chardennis9370
@chardennis9370 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to check these needles out. I am very happy with my Knitters Pride. Great video. ❤
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@zoeesheba
@zoeesheba 5 ай бұрын
wow, fantastic review! just recently found your channel and absolutely appreciate your incredible thoroughness. I do like the Chiagoo fixed circulars, but all in all, you have saved me time and money!!
@user-ic2nz3oz9v
@user-ic2nz3oz9v 5 ай бұрын
Ouch on the price! As always your reviews and information are detailed, very informative and there is always something new that I learn about needles/knitting in general. Thank you so much for taking the time to do the reviews.
@Whistlewalk
@Whistlewalk 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the frank review. I'm coming back to knitting after a 'few' decades of being way too busy to find time to knit, and all the needles I have are straight. So, this review was really interesting to me. Thank you.
@roslynyeomans5544
@roslynyeomans5544 5 ай бұрын
Some perspective here: For $375 USD, I could make THREE Round Trips between home (Nashville) and New York City for $248USD (total). I’d take my Knitters Pride interchangeables with me and be perfectly happy…and I’d have $127 left over to buy some yarn. 😊
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Knitter's math 🤣 But yeah, it really is a steep price indeed!
@karenultis3448
@karenultis3448 5 ай бұрын
Another fabulous video, Norman. This was so helpful as I love the regular Ciaogoo needles and the cable that doesn't twist. At the price asked I don't think I would have purchased this set, but it is wonderful to see these and have your review which was helpful learning things about any interchangeable knitting needle set. Thank you. 😊
@nicolelafontaine1720
@nicolelafontaine1720 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for reviewing that set of needles. I love my metal ChiaoGoo needles, but I don't think I'll be dreaming about this luxury set.
@catherineweaver3652
@catherineweaver3652 5 ай бұрын
I found this entire video so interesting ... and I was seriously debating about the purchase. After watching, I am pleased with my current ChiaGoo interchangeable set which I have accumulated one at a time. I won't move forward with this special purchase after all . THANK YOU! I very much appreciate your balanced and thoughtful review!
@user-ig8zq3ne7u
@user-ig8zq3ne7u 5 ай бұрын
Well done Norman. As usual, you explain clearly what and why you feel about each part; from the beautiful packaging to the 'catch' and balance that with your point of view regarding price vs quality. Thank you.
@vadec5909
@vadec5909 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Norman for a great review!!
@AmandaMcCarterWrites
@AmandaMcCarterWrites 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you did this review, Norman. I was looking at this set and given most of my knitting is lace or sock weight yarn, this sounds like a nightmare. Back to testing my single interchangeables until I find the "perfect" brand.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
for lace weight I personally currently prefer HIyaHiya the most currently. They are NOT perfect but the lace tip make up for a lot of the minor flaws, imo.
@AmandaMcCarterWrites
@AmandaMcCarterWrites 5 ай бұрын
@@NimbleNeedles thanks for the suggestion. I'll check them out.
@marciasullivan7534
@marciasullivan7534 5 ай бұрын
Wow so glad to hear your fair and accurate review of these sets.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@user-mj7ti8xe7f
@user-mj7ti8xe7f 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your time and your expertise. Much appreciated.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure 🙏
@thizizliz
@thizizliz 3 ай бұрын
I have to say that I love my lantern moon needles - and even the fabric case. Thank you for your always honest reviews.
@therealdonnawagner
@therealdonnawagner 5 ай бұрын
I think this was a very fair and honest review. Thank you for sharing! I'll stick with my Knit Pro needles. They've always been good to me. 😊
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
I like them a lot as well 🥰
@ursaliafibresstudio7228
@ursaliafibresstudio7228 5 ай бұрын
I love my Knit Pro (Knitter's Pride here) needles. Now I used them with Lantern Moon cables and I love them even more
@MrsGump
@MrsGump 5 ай бұрын
@@ursaliafibresstudio7228 I'm only just starting out knitting (I'm a crocheter but am determined to knit too!) & love the knitpro ones. It's great to know that the lantern moon cables fit with the knitpro needles - that's the kinda thing that I can only learn from others/experience. So thank you ❤️ 😃
@uschilou
@uschilou 5 ай бұрын
I'm SO GLAD you're talking about these. These and their Red Lace set is always so highly recommended. I see these sets often on second hand sites but the price is still exorbitant although less than the original.
@klz4377
@klz4377 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the detailed review. I appreciate your insight.
@kera7345
@kera7345 5 ай бұрын
Different hand sizes, knitting styles and tensions will always result in different subjective experiences when using knitting needles. I did own a pair of Lantern Moon needles, but I found the lettering on the wood disappeared quite quickly, so I had to use a needle gauge to ensure I had the right tips. The tips did wear down while I used them, and the wood at the tip dented - the tips themselves didn't break, splinter or crack, but the shaft itself didn't hold its shape as I would have linked. I also found that my yarn was consistently catching on the joins, and on the swivel to metal transition on the cables. I ended up replacing them with a ChiaoGoo bamboo set, which I've been pleased with since. Whatever needles you end up using, happy knitting!
@evahancox3083
@evahancox3083 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very comprehensive review. Much appreciated. 😊
@valeriehowden471
@valeriehowden471 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review as I've seen tons of ads for these. I didn't know of the issues with the original version. Thought it was ironic given forte means 'strength'.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
haha...yeah. I personally would have picked a different name for the second installment. Then again, I can only guess that they had a lot of old stock they wanted to reuse >.
@jeananpaul7472
@jeananpaul7472 5 ай бұрын
Perfect and detailed review. Thank you!
@deeztube1
@deeztube1 5 ай бұрын
I love my other CG needle sets, but like you mentioned... I'm not seeing a reason for the higher price with the Forte set. Thank you so much for your review! I'll stick with what I have. ❤ xo
@HarmonyInspired
@HarmonyInspired 5 ай бұрын
I was fascinated by the 'security' pins, then I realized they are just what North Americans call 'safety' pins. lol I appreciate your thorough discussion, Norman, as always you are full of accurate information and interesting opinions. The part I question is that the set is half carbon and half wood. Most knitters express a preference for a certain needle medium and don't like to knit with any thing else. So I'm not sure too many people will be satisfied with this mixed bag. Otherwise, I can see your criticisms of the leather pouch; just looking at it, I see a lot of wasted space on one side to make room for the accessories on the other side. I am a 'knitter of moderate means' - it took me 2 years to have enough money to buy my full set of stainless steel Chiagoos (12 sizes), but I absolutely love them. I enjoy the smoothness and accuracy of the steel tips and the non-kinkiness of the cables, so I don't see any justification for paying so much more for this mixed bag set of Fortes; and certainly I could NEVER afford them. Oh AND I did buy a set of 3 mm tips and a 50 inch cable to do TAAT socks. (Yes, I like all that extra cable, and it's great for magic loop hats, or wide blankets as well.)
@judylee3589
@judylee3589 5 ай бұрын
Great review Norman, thank you!!!
@tacistudio
@tacistudio 5 ай бұрын
I went to the store certain that I was going to buy the chiagoo Forte. When I looked at the set I really didn’t like the cable connections and the tips. So I came home and as I was researching I found your video and I’m so glad you confirmed my reluctance. thank you for such a detailed and informative review 🙏🏼💙
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
i mean, kinda sorry to hear that. then again, I guess I did the right thing. some sets are just not for you, right?
@raeleohana8797
@raeleohana8797 5 ай бұрын
Thank you SO much for this review!! I am actually a new knitter, but took the leap since it’s a limited run and everyone around me swore by them. But I dislike the sterile plain severe case and the insipid tools. I didn’t realize just how pricey it is for a set; way above even other xlnt comparables. I will return or sell.
@theminimalknitter
@theminimalknitter 5 ай бұрын
$375!!?? I just gave away my entire interchangeable Chiaogoo set because I don’t like the needles. I’m an Addi and Knitters Pride Zing type of knitter. To each their own, but nothing in that set is calling my name. Thank you for your review.
@FlatLandSept
@FlatLandSept 5 ай бұрын
I loved the review. Very informative. Thank you
@francesm1704
@francesm1704 5 ай бұрын
Btw, really appreciated your review. It seemed like such an expensive set and I was curious if it was really that much better than my “regular” ChiaoGoo interchangeable set. You made me feel much better ;) 😊
@HyperCactus72
@HyperCactus72 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this honest review. You saved me!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
a pleasure!
@leequinn545
@leequinn545 5 ай бұрын
Great review, Thank you and fortunately I brought the first set at a reduced price and had some store credit to lower cost even further! My 2.75 snapped as I joined the cable and I cried! Chiagoo replaced the one needle with a carbon as in new set, after knitting with 1 of each type needle to make a pair I enjoy both for fingering yarn and notice no difference ...swivels cords thats another story!
@emankarns
@emankarns 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I ordered and got mine yesterday. Wish your review was out a week earlier. I will check to see what I think about them later. I really like Lantern moon needles for slippery yarns.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Don't let my view influence your joy! Approach them with an open mind please! 🥰
@emankarns
@emankarns 5 ай бұрын
I will but I'm really a Hiya Hiya girl at heart. Thanks, I hope I like them.
@HeidiLongueuil
@HeidiLongueuil 5 ай бұрын
As someone who owns the regular Chiaogoo interchangeable set and all of the equivalents of the notions included in this set…I wish I could just buy the case! I’d love to use it for travel. Thanks for the great and in depth review, Norman!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
yeah, it would be great if you could just buy all the stuff individually
@marybeneteau6009
@marybeneteau6009 5 ай бұрын
I would not spend that much for these needles when other brands offer basically the same thing at half the price...I guess its a prestige thing. Thank you Norman for another excellent analysis.
@terrimiles5736
@terrimiles5736 4 ай бұрын
I was very interested in finding out if they resolved some of the issues with this new edition. Thank you for saving me money. I love my interchangeable .
@patbrain913
@patbrain913 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, so much for the honest review. I think I will keep using the set I have, at that price!!!!!
@annawerner1
@annawerner1 5 ай бұрын
Hello. I wanted to thank you for previous video where you were creating a latch tool for creating cord. I just made 5 of them with spare needles from my knitting machine and polymer clay, they are perfect. I am going to give away to all my knitting friends
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Glad it worked out and you could make it work! what a great gift
@janisstrohl5712
@janisstrohl5712 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I saw this!! I also felt the accessories cost to much and I don't need them anyway. Thank you so much!! I always enjoy your reviews. ❤
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
I don't quite understand it either. I mean, this set clearly targets experienced knitters. None of them need a plain metal scissor or a needle gauge anymore. We already have 20 of them and 19 of them are prettier (and the 1 ugly is the one we actually use!)
@user-gp5lh7id1w
@user-gp5lh7id1w 5 ай бұрын
I like having the scissors and the gauge in case. I appreciate them being added.
@user-gp5lh7id1w
@user-gp5lh7id1w 5 ай бұрын
I like having the scissors and the gauge in case. I appreciate them being added.
@user-gp5lh7id1w
@user-gp5lh7id1w 5 ай бұрын
I like having the scissors and the gauge in case. I appreciate them being added.
@rheahartt8138
@rheahartt8138 5 ай бұрын
“No, we’re not coming best friends here”… that made me laugh. I appreciate your detailed review. Although the set is beautiful, it’s not something I would purchase. I prefer a needle set in a small case. I have one of Chiagoo’s red lace sets and I love the fabric case, it holds everything it needs to. I have a notions pouch that I put in my project bag with all the stitch markers, tapestry needles and such.
@wendyellis6402
@wendyellis6402 5 ай бұрын
I put popsicle sticks with labels in the needle slots to keep track of which projects my needles are in.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
yeah, as I said at the end of the video, the standard CG fabric pouches are fine. I mean, there are certainly ways to improve them but they really do the job.
@NYKnitter
@NYKnitter 5 ай бұрын
@@wendyellis6402 nice hint , thank you
@megmagruder7124
@megmagruder7124 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I had just purchased my bamboo interchangeable Chiaogoo needles and was sad to see these. After watching the video, my FOMO is evaporated. Thank you for the review.
@Loulou_et_Effi
@Loulou_et_Effi 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for a HONEST review! ❤️🙏❤❤❤
@threadwench250
@threadwench250 5 ай бұрын
I’m so glad you did this review. It was very helpful to see the needles up close. I was tempted to buy them and thought the case was nice. I think it resembled a Thread and Maple case, but after seeing the case up close it does not even come close to the quality of their cases. No way I’m buying them for that price now. I think I will get some Addi Clicks and start saving for a Thread and Maple case
@ILike2KnitnQuilt2
@ILike2KnitnQuilt2 13 күн бұрын
I finally finished my first project with my Forte 2.0 set. I actually am loving them. The yarn slides nicely past all the joints and feels good. I agree that the tips could be pointier and a touch longer. I really like the stiletto tips on my Signature needles and wish all other needles were as nice. The Forte tips work very nicely though. I like the case and the little extras too. For me, I like to have a project bag with supplies for that project all there. I bought myself a new Tom Bihn Swift bag for another sweater project, and this Forte 2.0 was for that project bag. I have a large collection of project bags, each outfitted with all that is needed. This way I can grab the project I feel like working on and am off. I like having everything there ready to go. I buy quite a lot of kits from Stephen West, and I love knitting them. Each project is in its own bag with its own set of supplies. For me, this all makes me happy and helps me enjoy my knitting life. BTW, I bought my new Forte 2.0 set at a local yarn store for $268.00 US. Love your videos. 🙂👍
@nblmqst1167
@nblmqst1167 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review Norman.
@kathyoudsema3325
@kathyoudsema3325 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Norman for such an excellent review. One thing we need to remember is that you are really getting two sets of ChiaoGoo interchangeable needles sets in one set--all in a beautiful leather case. If you purchase the two sets individually (sizes 2-8, and then sizes 9-15), you will be spending close to $300 or more. I love my ChiaoGoo needles but have had the problem with my interchangeables coming unscrewed when in use. I can usually feel when this happens and stop to tighten them, but it's a pain. I have since ordered a few fixed sets that I use frequently. Lovely needles but too pricey!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
no. I have many CG sets and their big sets around 180 USD max these days. And they have the same amount of needles. The only difference is that these have 3.00mm needles and +3 cords.
@kathyoudsema3325
@kathyoudsema3325 5 ай бұрын
@@NimbleNeedles my mistake…sorry.
@aliciacb8284747274
@aliciacb8284747274 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you missed it in the video but it’s actually fake leather so just a cheap plastic case, hardly a step above the regular chiaogoo case
@Ada-hj6lk
@Ada-hj6lk 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honest and unsponsored review. My heart goes out to you, and I am astounded that Chiagoo has presented such average tools at this price. I would like to add that I personally don't mind blowing my budget on high quality items as long-term investments, but this is basically an outrage. I hope you can get your money back if you don't want to keep the set.
@jackiemoify
@jackiemoify 5 ай бұрын
Thorough review. Thank you.
@paulynez
@paulynez 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest review ❤️
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Of course!!
@michellem9444
@michellem9444 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review! I love my ChiaoGoo stainless steel set, so I was interested to see what these looked like. While I LOVE the leather case and all the pockets and accessories, I do not love the slight gaps and defects you pointed out. The reason I splurged on my ChiaoGoo spin set was because I absolutely hate when my yarn snags on the needles. The spin set has SUCH a smooth join, and I am ROUGH on my needles. (I'm a tight knitter, and I've learned to embrace it, no changing me now! LOL) I've had my current set for a few years now, and the join is STILL so smooth. (Let's just say that my Knit Picks set did not last very long; the screw part became misaligned with a noticeable overbite that snagged every stitch. Drove me crazy!) So, while I love that case, I'm going to stick with my spin set. Maybe I'll just indulge in some more cables. I need more for all my WIPs! LOL Thanks again!
@Lisa_Tennant
@Lisa_Tennant 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much for your frank review of this set. The case looks fantastic, so I do wish they’d offer separately. My favorite set is the Knitter’s Pride Mindful Collection.
@jassconrad
@jassconrad 5 ай бұрын
I have the twist complete interchangeable set that I bought 5 years ago & never regretted it. I have also bought additional fixed circular so that I can have several projects going at once. I agree that this new product seems less than ideal than the original product based on reviews. I have added some bits & parts for the interchangeable set. I love lace knitting & everything else & stainless steel is the only way for me.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the normal sets can be great indeed. There's a reason why so many love them. Here..I'm a but doubtful
@tinahairston6383
@tinahairston6383 5 ай бұрын
First, THANK YOU for such an in depth review!!! The price is ridiculous but I also think that Furls prices are just as ridiculous for their hooks. Buying a complete set of hooks depending on which ones you buy can easily run you the same amount of money if not more and that's JUST hooks. I would never buy a Furls because that tapered, long neck would make me crazy. I love in-line hooks. At least with this set you have a case and accessories as well. When this set first came out, I was intrigued. I might've actually splurged on them as I love ChiaoGoo and want all their stuff but they sold out (didn't know they actually stopped production) before I could seriously consider buying. After a few reviews, I decided that if anything, I'd only buy the swivel cords (since they can be used with all their needles) as the normal interchangeable sets were fine. You can never have enough cords in various sizes and I didn't NEED fancy wood or carbon. With this set, I do love that you can read the sizing on the needles way better, something I hope becomes standard with their other needles. I already wear glasses because I can't read tiny words and the struggle is real for the normal needles as the etching is very faint. I agree on the different size cable connections. It is odd that they ends aren't the same for the small and the large when you're paying that much for the set or either of their regular interchangeable sets. Of course the minis need smaller connections. I'm very happy that you compared other needle brands as well. You now have me rethinking buying their swivel cords because the Lantern Moon cords definitely function better. Even though these are your personal impressions, they are still extremely insightful and probably speak to what we're all thinking on some level. If you're going to pay that much, the company HAS to do better. Unless I find a set in a yard sale or thrift store, I'll be sticking with their normal sets.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
yes, I agree...the sizing on their normal tips needs to be enhanced. I never really understood that. THeir target audience is mostly older woman. These need to be big bold black fonts and not some whimsical grey thin line you see if you hold it against the light at a certain angle :P
@xvgarnet
@xvgarnet 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your review. I appreciate you being so nitpicky about it, because you should! these are very expensive needles. It don't think that they are worth the price even if they are nice needles.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
exactly! I mean...if they were 50 USD, the video and my critique would have been completely different!
@wendyellis6402
@wendyellis6402 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely hate swivel cables. I’m very happy with my far less expensive Chiao Goo red lace set in small, because I seldom knit with needles larger than 5mm. For the occasional bulkier project, I knew I would not enjoy stainless steel scraping around, so I either use my Lantern Moon Ebony, or bamboo.
@Cyndi159
@Cyndi159 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this review. I was really eyeing them😅
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! hope it helped you making a buying decission :)
@dianachristie5700
@dianachristie5700 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the review!
@karenmsuk
@karenmsuk 3 ай бұрын
I have been knitting/crocheting for over 40 years and to me, we are being taken advantage of. Granted I have a set of interchangeable needles and hooks and I love them, no more using stitch holders when making a garment, no more carrying around needles that are almost a foot long, There are some very nice advances but I think KnitPro (knitters pride in the US) symfonie are very nice and they cost around £50 for the set, also come in other materials! Other people have other preferences and that is the joy of diversity. To charge over 6 times the price for a set that had to be recalled in the first version, then $75 added to the price for THEIR MISTAKES is being taken advantage of in my book
@Christine-zk6hk
@Christine-zk6hk 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great review. Even before I saw your review I had no desire to buy this set. Just too expensive for me. Now I'm even more happy I did but them. I have a friend who bought a set, I'll be interested to see her reaction after using them for a while. I am not as enamored of chiaogoo needles as others. Perhaps due to arthritis in my hands I prefer wood needles, they are more comfortable for me. I recently purchased the Lantern Moon set so we'll see after I use them. Right now I'm working with black yarn (what was I thinking) and had to switch to metal needles because most of the wood needles are too dark and made it difficult to see the stitches. But again, thanks for the great review, I love your channels and recommend them to my knitting friends. You are a very good teacher.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
thank you for spreading the word, Christine
@lenaohlund6492
@lenaohlund6492 5 ай бұрын
I got this set in November 2022 as a birthday present. It is luxirious snd well done. It is easy to enlarge cable by connecting two of them with swift because they spin. Needles are more sharp than chiaogoo twist and it is good for some yarns and projects. ❤❤❤❤
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Then they must have changed it because the new tips are a lot blunter than the regular sharp tips
@Knicoleknits
@Knicoleknits 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this review. I love love love my Signature needles, but they are no longer making them, so I will be looking for a comparable replacement at some point (I've stocked up, so I'm all good for now). My must-haves are a flexible swivel cord and the pointiest of pointy tips. The search continues!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
lemme know if oyu find something ^^
@AnneluvsKatz
@AnneluvsKatz 5 ай бұрын
Very thorough review. That price outrageous though! No way! It’s DEF a quality set (the box, the case and the rest), but seriously no way could/would I pay that much. And that catch on the transition from needle to cable would drive me nuts as well!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
yeah, some items really speak for the high quality. And I mean, even the tips are high quality - even if I don't like them personally - I couldn't say no less: they are well crafted.
@katywuste9054
@katywuste9054 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic in-depth review. My daughter is buying me a set of interchangeable needles for my birthday in February and definitely won’t be getting these
@jeaninegunn4118
@jeaninegunn4118 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great review. I think they are too expensive and here in Canada they are even more because of our poor exchange rate. I like my Knitter's Pride interchangeable set as well as a great variety of fixed circulars by Addi. I do have a few swivel cables by Chiaogoo with different tips and love the "no torque" side effects on wrists of the swivel cable for large jumpers or bigger projects.
@knitgirl.7676
@knitgirl.7676 5 ай бұрын
I do love your review videos. So detailed and fair. Thank you for that. I don’t have this new set, but I do have 1.0 and they totally sucked. They did send me a bunch of new cords, a new size 4 to replace the broken one- which came broken- and a new tape measure- after I sent them a scathing email- but these needles were NOT worth the price. Mine were also scratched and scored. The joins - so catchy. Quite frankly, CG knew these needles sucked, they should allow us to send back the 1.0 for replacement with the 2.0, but based on your review, this set doesn’t sound any better. The case is the best part of it. The rest was junk. I say this as a lover of regular Chiaogoo. I seldom write to companies to complain, but these needles (again, the first version) were such a disappointment after so much hype. I love your ending to this. You captured my feelings exactly-. I really don’t understand what I paid for here.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
I guess if the set was half the price, we could start arguing. But at that high price point, my standards are just as high - and have to.
@nylac8009
@nylac8009 5 ай бұрын
I am just a beginner knitter. I feel that if it isn't all one piece, it will eventually cause a separation. So with that in mind and the fact that I am cheap. I my self would not pay that price. I fo hope you will enjoy this set. Me it's just a name. Thank-you for sharing and helping me to continue to learn.
@jenniferelliott2085
@jenniferelliott2085 4 ай бұрын
I've coveted a Chiaogoo set for years and been hesitant. Thank you great review I won't be buying it. Now I know why I've hesitated.
@deemoye668
@deemoye668 5 ай бұрын
Love the review. I’ve seen these advertised this week as limited edition, and a I started to have FOMO. But I already have the full set of Chaiogoo interchangeable, and I bought the Lantern Moon black wood needles a few months back, which I quite like. When I saw the small needles were carbon, I thought ‘why spend $330 for carbon, when you can buy carbon needles separately.’ Hearing your impression tells me that I do not need these. Seriously looking at the Lykke copper set though…cause we love all the toys.
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
haha..that cyrpa set has been on my list for quite some time as well :P
@alizaras
@alizaras 5 ай бұрын
The measuring tape! Wow I always assumed that the reason it is best to use a ruler is because the measuring tape might distort with time. Very surprised that a brand new Chiaogoo measuring tape was not exact. Thanks for pointing this out!
@NimbleNeedles
@NimbleNeedles 5 ай бұрын
They probably converted inches 1:1 to centimeters. Very common in the knitting industry. 4 inches is NOT 10cm
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