Chicago family pays thousands to keep home mistakenly built on wrong lot

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ABC 7 Chicago

Жыл бұрын

A Chicago family was almost kicked out of their Lawndale, Chicago home because it was built on the wrong lot 10 years ago, and no one caught the mistake. FULL STORY: bit.ly/449Hdri

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@charlesritter6640
@charlesritter6640 Жыл бұрын
They need to sue the county.
@amazingTree1290
@amazingTree1290 Жыл бұрын
agreed
@NotfromDetroit
@NotfromDetroit Жыл бұрын
That is what I was thinking too.
@charlesritter6640
@charlesritter6640 Жыл бұрын
@@MeoMiyo a jury would side with the couple.
@MeoMiyo
@MeoMiyo Жыл бұрын
@@charlesritter6640 to bad no jury for statue has run out.
@shari9721
@shari9721 Жыл бұрын
@@MeoMiyo the statute of limitations applies to "normal" situations , this isnt normal so the statute of limitations is null and void . It is simply being used as an excuse so they dont have to pay for their mistake .
@CarolynForney
@CarolynForney Жыл бұрын
The title company, the county assessor , the closing attorney and any parties involved should take responsibility . The government has no mercy.
@stephannieq2837
@stephannieq2837 Жыл бұрын
@Carolyn, you are so right! We are going through something similar as this family and we had a home built in west Garfield Park around the same time they had theirs. We first went with a builder in Lawndale and that process fell through because of mismanagement of the organization that was over the housing program. Not at least surprised about the cook county assessors office actions at all.
@CarolynForney
@CarolynForney Жыл бұрын
@@stephannieq2837Government agencies in large metro area are not helpful. Common sense is not common for them. There is proof that these folks didn’t do this to themselves. This is an easy fix .
@bgknowable
@bgknowable Жыл бұрын
The title company! Come on… There had to be at least one paper-efficient attorney on duty, at any closing?
@arielsea9087
@arielsea9087 Жыл бұрын
Then they want to sell Title insurance to protect you from their mistakes. They say it’s in case some long lost relative pops up. Sounds like a scam. 😂
@themartdog
@themartdog Жыл бұрын
Right, if it was the other way around and the couple made the mistake, there would be no statute of limitations
@MrYac-ie8ie
@MrYac-ie8ie Жыл бұрын
insane, they can't get a refund because of statute of limitations but they can certainly be held accountable for money not paid in that same timeframe.
@takenserious4554
@takenserious4554 2 ай бұрын
They are being held accountable for the taxes they didn't pay for the improvements from 2017. They owe that. The investor that bought the errant lot is owed their money for the lot. If they ended up just paying the tax dues on their lot and acquiring an additional lot, they basically broken even. It may have been an unintentional lot purchase, but they would be able to sell their lot after they get the paperwork squared away.
@cecilb48
@cecilb48 Жыл бұрын
I live in Virginia and had a similar experience. We had a house built by a developer on a lot he owned. 12 years later we learned that he had never transferred the title to the lot to us. So, like this couple, we owned the house but not the property. Our lawyer and the title company were no help, but our bank became engaged when we threatened to default on the mortgage. The developer realized his mistake and transferred the title within 24 hours so our story had a happier ending.
@Mindyobidnessfr
@Mindyobidnessfr Жыл бұрын
Good for you guys. Houses are way to expensive nowadays for bs like that to be happening.
@Commentator541
@Commentator541 4 ай бұрын
@dcg590
@dcg590 4 ай бұрын
How could you let that happen?
@davewilson7602
@davewilson7602 4 ай бұрын
@@dcg590if you go to a house closing and sign some forms you’d assume the lot would be included
@actionjack84
@actionjack84 3 ай бұрын
Technically these people owned a vacant lot ONLY until they bought the lot their house is on from the tax sale investor. Wild. Go back and check the permits sounds like the building permit office is culpable. Silver lining - find a reputable builder to build a spec house on the vacant lot with an advantageous arrangement for them.
@DrWashingtonMA
@DrWashingtonMA Жыл бұрын
And we thought my dad was doing too much when he wanted a land survey, photos and aerial maps before our house was built when I was a kid. I guess he knew something we didn’t.
@DovidM
@DovidM Жыл бұрын
What your father did was correct. Sometimes an existing fence or hedge doesn’t follow the property line, and you might be building too close to the actual property line.
@cartierwhite_lasvegas
@cartierwhite_lasvegas Жыл бұрын
Smart man
@Kookeycrumbles
@Kookeycrumbles Жыл бұрын
Thank God miss Washington, 😮 this is horrific smdh
@antwangordon6918
@antwangordon6918 Жыл бұрын
He definitely knew something that you didn’t. You were just a kid 😂
@localanalysts6839
@localanalysts6839 Жыл бұрын
@@antwangordon6918 kids lol even slightly grown up, baffling pompousness lol
@Dobviews
@Dobviews Жыл бұрын
The family being forced to pay for the county/city's mistake since 2005 is INSANE!
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
It's their mistake too. They never bothered to survey the land because that would have generated a land plot showing them where their house SHOULD have been built.
@socialseahawksfan9325
@socialseahawksfan9325 Жыл бұрын
You'd think someone in the permitting process to build should be responsible. How could they allow building on the wrong lot when the city zoned the lots to begin with if they paid for the permits to build.
@smiller2044
@smiller2044 Жыл бұрын
​@@nobodyspecial4702 builders literally have the job of knowing where to build & building a sound structure.
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
@@smiller2044 So? Clearly they can and do make mistakes. When I had my house surveyed before buying it, I was provided a map of the property, the boundaries and the associated measuring points indicating exactly where my property lines are in relation to all my neighbors.
@IvoryS2012
@IvoryS2012 Жыл бұрын
The right question you should be asking yourself is why didn't the family take action against this issue since they started getting these notices in 2005?! It's their house and land, its their responsibility!
@MYOB990
@MYOB990 Жыл бұрын
Title Company needs to pay. It was literally THEIR JOB to make sure this didn't happen.
@dcg590
@dcg590 4 ай бұрын
No, it’s the consumers job.
@Milesco
@Milesco Жыл бұрын
A major question that wasn't answered in this story is _What about notice?_ You can't sell a person's home for delinquent taxes without clearly notifying the homeowner first. If they weren't properly notified, they have a valid claim against the county. And the Statute of Limitations shouldn't start to run until the homeowners became aware of the problem. I hope this couple gets justice!
@MyFiddlePlayer
@MyFiddlePlayer Жыл бұрын
They probably sent the delinquency notices to the owner of record of that lot (#38), who probably had a different address. It was that person who chose not to pay the taxes. One wonders why the owner of #38 never objected to someone building a house on their lot. Maybe the builder originally owned both lots.
@takenserious4554
@takenserious4554 2 ай бұрын
They didn't sell the homeowners lot. They sold the lot they were living in (the one they technically didn't own). That lot wasn't having it's taxes paid. All lots have taxes owed, and lots with homes pay more (for the developments on the lot). So the firm that bought the lien was buying the lot they lived on (that they didn't own). That firm notified these people they were living on their lot. My hope is that the resolution mentioned here was that the owners ended up effectively buying the lot they lived on and owning both lots.
@patty109109
@patty109109 2 ай бұрын
The county had no record of a homeowner because it was an empty lot in their system
@brucebeamon5460
@brucebeamon5460 Жыл бұрын
It CERTAINLY is unfortunate that the city can’t/won’t do ANYTHING to make this family whole !
@stooraowen
@stooraowen Жыл бұрын
I"d make another small senior home on other lot RENT IT OUT MAKE UP THAT X $65.000 In the long run
@coffeecup3177
@coffeecup3177 Жыл бұрын
@@stooraowen I would build a modern home similar to the one they own. Sell both homes and move to a State with a lower Tax Burden like so many of the Illinois Residents are doing.
@MzJones-wo4oj
@MzJones-wo4oj Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t want to live in Chicago for free I lived there for 42 years been gone for 8
@magicworld3242
@magicworld3242 Жыл бұрын
They're already whole. They now own the lot next door. They can either sell it or build something to recoup their money. They can't get the lot for free, then expect The City to pay them money. His wife is just being greedy at this point.
@MzJones-wo4oj
@MzJones-wo4oj Жыл бұрын
@@magicworld3242 don’t nobody want that lot in Chicago they made a mistake buying the first house they bout ready to give those properties away Chicago is a nightmare
@jjw9222
@jjw9222 Жыл бұрын
This is absurd. I hope an excellent attorney steps up and gets them justice. How could so many people collect a pay check and do so much harm. God bless.
@SophieRocks
@SophieRocks Жыл бұрын
They now own BOTH lots. They would have had to pay property taxes anyways. Taxes for a vacant lot are far, far less than one with a property on it. So they own both properties and have paid the taxes. They should now sell the empty lot.
@JR-bw1vw
@JR-bw1vw Жыл бұрын
A lot of people ask me why I trust no one. This is the reason.
@dcg590
@dcg590 4 ай бұрын
Agree. Always do your due diligence. These people didn’t
@rez3501
@rez3501 Жыл бұрын
Its past the statute of limitations yet they had to pay 43000?? This is another example how the working class gets screwed on the daily
@prima808
@prima808 Жыл бұрын
Fr right? I find it SO funny when there's no "statute of limitations" the other way around. If we shorted the government money, not only would we still forever owe the money, also be hit with interest, penalties, liens...amirite?!? If they owe you, they might pay anytime from later to never.😡
@DecrepitBiden
@DecrepitBiden Жыл бұрын
@@prima808 Same with taxes. If you have capital gain, you're expected to pay immediately, & if not, then interest. But if you have capital loss, you're only allowed 3000 deduction per year.
@smiller2044
@smiller2044 Жыл бұрын
💯
@chillwill5080
@chillwill5080 Жыл бұрын
They had to pay 43,000 because they ignored the letters and notices that the city served on them to pay $16,000 by a certain date. They screwed themselves by not paying it or getting a court ordered stay on the delinquency until it was legally sorted out. The private company that bought the property invested time and money to identify, buy, and close on the property, and is entitled to make a profit since the property taxes are typically only one third of the actual value of any property.
@afropuertorican8022
@afropuertorican8022 Жыл бұрын
​@@chillwill5080 shut up.racist
@103Kimberly
@103Kimberly Жыл бұрын
They need a better lawyer. Another lawyer would be able to figure out how and who to sue, because there definitely is a way!
@dcg590
@dcg590 Жыл бұрын
Why should they sue? Always looking for a pay out.
@parler8698
@parler8698 Жыл бұрын
​@@dcg590 They've paid out a ton. They should be made whole.
@stephannieq2837
@stephannieq2837 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@Richkeyj
@Richkeyj Жыл бұрын
@@parler8698 I don't know how this works but can't they sell the other lot?
@ShayWilliam341
@ShayWilliam341 Жыл бұрын
@@dcg590 they should sue these folks been paying their taxes it’s not their fault someone built the house on the wrong lot
@mayurdotca
@mayurdotca Жыл бұрын
Only 65k to own both lots? They got lucky that the new owner was willing to cooperate.
@MJCLAXDEN
@MJCLAXDEN Жыл бұрын
I would love to know why the attorneys didn't file suit against the title company. Title insurance should have taken care of this.
@Satiator123
@Satiator123 Жыл бұрын
Chances are they are buddy buddy with the other parties involved.
@CastleBomb44
@CastleBomb44 Жыл бұрын
They got an attorney? Sounds like they did not get title insurance
@John_Smith_86
@John_Smith_86 Жыл бұрын
Title was held to the correct lot
@motivationperseverance3077
@motivationperseverance3077 Жыл бұрын
Actually the home would be nicer if it was on the other lot it wouldn't be real close to that bigger building. The city's building inspector should have caught the mistake when it was being built to get the building permit. You have to do a survey before construction how everything went through and it was built on the wrong lot with no one noticing is unbelievable !
@juliaweber212
@juliaweber212 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and selling it
@duanem.5738
@duanem.5738 Жыл бұрын
You don't necessarily have to do a survey prior to construction if these lots were created with a subdivision plat.
@Richkeyj
@Richkeyj Жыл бұрын
Inspectors are a joke. Inspector held up my closing for cracks in the concrete around the house and other minor things but didn't say anything about the windows and pipes we would have to replace.
@RR-kz4hq
@RR-kz4hq Жыл бұрын
..... you sound like a retiree watching from the sidewalk.
@Gryphind0r
@Gryphind0r 2 күн бұрын
Caught the mistake? The inspector got paid to ignore it. 😂
@swannoir7949
@swannoir7949 Жыл бұрын
Something similar happened to me. A year after I bought my house, I got a letter from my mortgage company claiming I owed 13k in back taxes. As it turns out, the taxes had previously been sold -- but never PAID. The title insurance company honored my claim, and paid the back taxes, and vowed to go after "them", whom allowed a sale without the back taxes being paid (you cannot sell a house if there are back taxes). The county had my house on the auction block for 'back taxes', and I didn't even know it. My house sits equally on two lots, but it isn't being pro-rated as it should, and I'm paying taxes on literally two houses. And my house was built, IRONICALLY around the same time as theirs The Cook County assessors office are nothing but crooks, and most of these builders went 'out of business' after they built theses houses, and most were engaging in shady business practices, and if you ask me, in conspiracy with the county. They don't call it 'Crook County' for nothing.
@parisk8697
@parisk8697 Жыл бұрын
And again same thing have your land assessed before buying this would of given u all info needed ppl get to lazy these days and think they can skip steps to save a few dollars and in the end cost u more so if u are paying on 2 lots that’s all on u your mistake now u pay 🤷🏻‍♀️ next time I’m sure u will do it the right way 😂
@levelintent
@levelintent Жыл бұрын
I pray everyone wronged by these satanic corporations get their money back and emotional distress!
@tedreynolds6363
@tedreynolds6363 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear this happened to you and the Miller's.
@joyceboisvert9167
@joyceboisvert9167 Жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this this is good to know Because when you buy a house the realitor suppose to tell you everything so when you see houses with liens on sale now I know always double the reason behind it. Thank you this was truly helpful
@Dachozan1
@Dachozan1 Жыл бұрын
​@@living2day617💯💯
@Victor-tl4dk
@Victor-tl4dk Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they couldn't pay it... Statute of limitations or not the county should have made sure they didn't "have to" pay the person who bought the property. They paid their taxes after all. The buyer paid the unpaid taxes to the government and the government should have returned that money to the buyer and marked the money from the other lot for the couple and gave them time to pay the small extra w/o any "penalty."
@missf4681
@missf4681 Жыл бұрын
This is so unjust and so unfair
@bigdraco197
@bigdraco197 Жыл бұрын
Illinois business as usual! This is deceptive and malicious, when the assessors office said they fixed the error and deliberately withheld the mistake and monetized the situation is sickening and deplorable! I’ve been here 4 decades and this doesn’t surprise me one bit…
@cheryldodd-marko9787
@cheryldodd-marko9787 Жыл бұрын
SO SO WRONG....ONLY IN AMERICA 🕊🇺🇲💕
@swannoir7949
@swannoir7949 Жыл бұрын
@Teressa Stuckey But America prides itself on integrity.
@Tom-kn6sr
@Tom-kn6sr Жыл бұрын
​@@swannoir7949 lol....our politicians can't spell integrity. They burst into flames if they get any integrity on them.
@phanna7492
@phanna7492 Жыл бұрын
What surprises me is the title insurance company weaseling out on their responsibility...something is not right.
@iMatti00
@iMatti00 Жыл бұрын
Draco, this does not sound like deceptive on the part of the county assessor. Unless it’s some big conspiracy with a kickback that was planned. While anything is possible, the likelihood is extremely small. This is just called normal incompetence. Maybe you have been blessed to work at companies where there’s never incompetent people. I worked at Companies where people work there much longer dealing with Account services and people would make all kinds of ridiculous errors talking to customers.
@mickeyglenn8936
@mickeyglenn8936 Жыл бұрын
Sue the local building department, those inspectors , plan review, water and sewage as well.they should have known before any footings were laid!!
@meep2253
@meep2253 Жыл бұрын
Why do they force you to have title insurance if they won’t even help you when stuff like this happens. Also don’t the city inspectors that come approve the building codes have to verify they are on the correct property?
@Zero11_ss
@Zero11_ss Жыл бұрын
Its another middleman scam, like car salesmen or realtors. All of this could easily be digitized and bought/sold without any intermediary who dont actually provide a service.
@GinaKayLandis
@GinaKayLandis Жыл бұрын
In Ohio at least, there are a couple different types of title insurance. One is for the mortgage company's risk, the other (not required to purchase) is owners title insurance. Sounds like owners title insurance wasn't purchased when the home was built :(. I'm a Realtor, not a scammer by the way, and Realtors help people avoid this type of situation.
@Zero11_ss
@Zero11_ss Жыл бұрын
@@GinaKayLandis I don't mean the individual workers, like a single realtor, are all actively working to scam people. The system itself has the structure of a scam. In my opinion there is an effort to fight the overall trend of there simply not being enough decent jobs for all workers - so we have inefficient systems like these from the pre-internet era just being held in place in order for even more jobs to not be vaporized.
@shailaja6788
@shailaja6788 Жыл бұрын
@@GinaKayLandis If they took out mortgage, then bank would have made them buy title insurance.
@GinaKayLandis
@GinaKayLandis Жыл бұрын
@@shailaja6788 Not in Ohio. The mortgage company would have title insurance, but currently, buyers can decline to buy owners title insurance. Not sure how it is handled in the video.
@peryole
@peryole Жыл бұрын
This actually happened to me. I paid a mortgage for years and went to check my taxes on the assessors website. I was told that I did not own my house. Luckily I bought my house from hud so it couldn’t be sold or bought by someone else. The lawyer screwed up my deed and yes, I have mortgage insurance…through that lawyer so he rushed and corrected the deed.
@ronaldharris53
@ronaldharris53 Жыл бұрын
This is messed up , I'm keeping this family in my prayers and hope something can work out in their favor 🙏
@mysticgoddesshazel
@mysticgoddesshazel Жыл бұрын
Oh effff no!!! Someone with brains in that county needs to come forward- this is definitely one of the worse cases of fuckary that I’ve heard yet! Chicago help this family! They definitely don’t deserve this and no one else either for that matter.
@brandonjohnson3284
@brandonjohnson3284 Жыл бұрын
Spirit Possession. Body snatched. Npc. Agent of the matrix. Side character. Bot. Meat puppet. Caged bird.
@ryanbone3537
@ryanbone3537 Жыл бұрын
It's run by democrats. You won't find anybody with brains there.
@Shellshockd85
@Shellshockd85 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonjohnson3284 you da mayor fix this hahahahaha
@radiatelight4100
@radiatelight4100 Жыл бұрын
The county failed them and they are taking no responsibility!
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
No, the builder failed them and they failed themselves by not making sure they had the plot surveyed before paying.
@stephannieq2837
@stephannieq2837 Жыл бұрын
They never do!
@afr1952
@afr1952 Жыл бұрын
Crook County
@John_Smith_86
@John_Smith_86 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it is their fault. As the anchor himself said, they could have paid for a proper land survey
@bengalbabe
@bengalbabe Жыл бұрын
This is unacceptable. Someone needs to help this family.
@edwardrhoads7283
@edwardrhoads7283 Жыл бұрын
I had one where I bought a house that was on 2 lots but the title company only put one in my name. The other went unpaid for taxes. Luckily in my case the city caught it and only fined me about 1k for late back taxes on a lot I did not even know existed. They also combined the lots at the same time so that it could not happen again.
@travelnomad2128
@travelnomad2128 Жыл бұрын
At least your county is honorable & fixed the problem.
@migm1520
@migm1520 Жыл бұрын
Sue tf out of them. They will win. This is obviously not their fault. This is ridiculous.
@alphasthrive1906
@alphasthrive1906 Жыл бұрын
This happened to a couple in my parent's neighborhood years ago & the county switched the lot #'s. The couple was also able to sue the builders because they noticed the error right away, when they moved in. They were from out of state & had a friend that was local monitoring the build but the friend wasn't aware the house was being built on the wrong lot.
@erikh9991
@erikh9991 Жыл бұрын
My client's dad bought a piece of property and built a home on it to sell. The guy who owned the lot next door lived in the area and drove by the property knowing the house was built on the wrong property. The dad sued the guy saying he illegally profiting from someone's loss. The dad won. The court switched the property to benefit the dad.
@carminaburana9765
@carminaburana9765 Жыл бұрын
The assessor should have contacted them and gotten the paperwork sorted out when they realized that lot 38 had a house and lot 39 didn't. The county refusing to tell them why their property value changed while continuing to bill them for the wrong lot just seems malicious.
@hmbld1
@hmbld1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I am a home builder and my worst nightmare is building a house on the wrong lot or over an easement or property line. I would say the title company is at fault, they are to verify a/the home is on the correct lot.
@DaveColorado
@DaveColorado Жыл бұрын
The builder may be out of business but the liability insurance policy that he had should still cover this.
@vlsice663
@vlsice663 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I would think the Sherance company would have to pay out. If you show your house was built in this year where the house was covered under the builder and that the builder made a mistake and built your house on the wrong plot. That is why they are there for no matter how long even if it’s 50 to a 100 years after How long is that building was paying his prima donna time the house was built they should still be liable and then they should insurance company should go after the builder for negligence
@rumooooni
@rumooooni Жыл бұрын
​@@vlsice663 exactly, it's the builders,inspectors fault FOR NOT MAKING SURE IT WAS THE RIGHT ONE!
@tunisiancrochetchannel
@tunisiancrochetchannel Жыл бұрын
If the builder is out of business, how would you find out about that policy?
@DaveColorado
@DaveColorado Жыл бұрын
@@tunisiancrochetchannel Proof of insurance is typically a requirement of their license. The building department that issued the permit will provide that information.
@glass1258
@glass1258 Жыл бұрын
They’re extremely lucky they were able to purchase that lot . 65k is a small price to pay to keep your home . Sell the second lot and recoup your money
@digi3218
@digi3218 Жыл бұрын
Yeah good point. The private company that bought their house did them a favor. They could have been real evil. That lot next to them has to be worth a decent amount.
@eliwilson3902
@eliwilson3902 Жыл бұрын
​@@digi3218 unimproved land in Cook County is worth a lot. It doesn't look too big so 60k may be the real value, but in my experience you can't get anything in Chicago for under 100.
@s10er8
@s10er8 Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking, they got a heck of a deal. Sell the lot that they never knew that they owned.
@victoriamahon3765
@victoriamahon3765 Жыл бұрын
Probably because whatever investment firm bought it doesn’t want all the bad press that would undeniably come out of this when it hit the news they sold it for just enough to get money back but not enough to make a big profit because they didn’t wanna have to deal with the PR smart move on their part.
@penitent2401
@penitent2401 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@eliwilson3902near the end they briefly displayed the block size, 3,145 SqFt, how much would that be worth?
@Jonathon10
@Jonathon10 Жыл бұрын
What a giant mistake. The builder should be individually responsible for this
@TheQueenRulesAll
@TheQueenRulesAll Жыл бұрын
They need to go after the appraiser, the title insurance company and the county assessor. All of these entities are supposed to check to make sure the lot is correct. They need to get their money back and the people involved be fired. There should be no statute of limitations in a situation where the experts and government agencies erred with no way for the homeowner to know. Why do we pay for government required inspections and title insurance if they cannot be held accountable for their mistakes?
@Wulfenburg
@Wulfenburg Жыл бұрын
What an awful situation. I'd rather our tax money helping people lie this, than the usual way it's wasted. These people don't deserve to be left in the dark, this is insane.
@veniagivenchy1532
@veniagivenchy1532 Жыл бұрын
They didn't have to do that to them . They could've easily let it go because it's not their fault . That's just mean, nasty, & evil ! They should fight it & sue .
@kristinesharp6286
@kristinesharp6286 Жыл бұрын
The city no longer owned the debt owed to them. They did pay the vacant lots tax bill. They should sue the owner of the vacant lot.
@elbertmoreno2159
@elbertmoreno2159 Жыл бұрын
I would have personally verified that the build is in the right lot before day 1
@oldtimefarmboy617
@oldtimefarmboy617 Жыл бұрын
In Texas, you have to have what is called a warranty deed. It consist of the history of the land from when the state first surveyed and and the legal location of every section, to the original purchaser, through every purchaser of any part of the land to the current owner of the section or lot of land you want to buy. It includes all of the different title transfer documents and titles for the entire legal history of the land you want to buy. A warranty deed can be several inches thick. When you purchase the land the warranty deed has to be updated with the title transfer documents and the newest title and turned over to the new owner. If you want to buy land from someone and they do not have the warranty deed, that proves they are not the actual owner of the property.
@Loveladylove
@Loveladylove Жыл бұрын
You must work in Title, I do as well, and I’m trying to figure out how in the world this could happen, are used to record warranty, deed, and deeds of trust, and we had several eyes verify, and re-verify the information before recording it, and the county is supposed to do their due diligence before actually excepting the recording.
@oldtimefarmboy617
@oldtimefarmboy617 Жыл бұрын
@@Loveladylove One big tell that these people ignored for years is that the tax bill had the address for the lot next door and they did not pay attention to that detail. It is a very expensive lesson for people to learn to pay attention to the details and not just pay whatever bill gets delivered.
@misterTVman
@misterTVman Жыл бұрын
Since they own both lots now, they can sell the vacant lot and recoup some of their money that way.
@farajaraf
@farajaraf Жыл бұрын
I’m not leaving my house or paying. That’s a hill I’d die on
@ngi638
@ngi638 Жыл бұрын
This is not their fault. Someone better fix this!
@LP-bt4jk
@LP-bt4jk Жыл бұрын
Yes. Start da fixin..
@TheFirstRealChewy
@TheFirstRealChewy Жыл бұрын
That sucks, and it also sucks that they didnt know which lot was theirs. I'm guessing since the beginning they were told that lot 38 was 39 and yet none of the city inspectors caught this major error... or cared for that matter.
@kathysmith3287
@kathysmith3287 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous ! Right the wrongs !
@1001Hobbies
@1001Hobbies Жыл бұрын
*HERE'S THE SOLUTION:* Of course the City wants to sue the non-existent builder, because *THE CITY INSPECTOR* who approved everything when the house was built IS AT FAULT!! It is the City Inspector's responsibility to make sure everything is in compliance with city code, and building the house on the correct lot is part of that. THIS IS ALL ON THE CITY. I would sue them on this premise. This is a nightmare situation for this couple. I can't imagine what they are going through.
@Amen.22
@Amen.22 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a real estate agent, but I checked some lot prices in the same neighborhood and that empty lot might be worth $65,000 They should think about building a house on it that they could rent out. Or find out how much they could sell it for. Talk to a lawyer to figure out how to get at least some of the money back.
@calamity0.o
@calamity0.o Жыл бұрын
Or they could turn it into a vegetable garden and plant some fruit trees like plums, something self fertilizing to fruit.
@smithiness
@smithiness Жыл бұрын
Yea, the fact they ended up with both lots makes the reporting seem a little off. The city should have corrected all of the clerical errors, but since they did not, the owners are at least left with something of value and aren’t really out as much as reported. It would be nice if the city offered to buy the empty lot for a little more than the couple paid.
@sa3270
@sa3270 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was crazy when I heard about a home in Florida built too close to the property line had to be torn down. When you buy a property, check the property description on your documents against the subdivision plat and actually go there in person and count lots. Make sure everything agrees. Make sure ground is broken on the correct lot before construction begins.
@bioswalesbioswales3004
@bioswalesbioswales3004 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the statute of limitations applies when the money isn’t flowing in the government’s direction. 🙄
@rayy4pres194
@rayy4pres194 Жыл бұрын
Right! Total BS!
@Danimal-D-Animal
@Danimal-D-Animal Жыл бұрын
The same thing almost happened to me when county/township officials placed my 911 address marker on the wrong lot. Good thing I hadn't built or brought Utilities in before I discovered it using a hunting app. It's remarkably accurate in identifying property boundaries.
@JuliaWang-ls4bb
@JuliaWang-ls4bb 3 ай бұрын
Whats the hunting app name
@MyaIsWithIt
@MyaIsWithIt Жыл бұрын
That's insane
@knifermind638
@knifermind638 Жыл бұрын
The survey company that had a licensed engineer stamp them drawings stating this building is on the correct lot. The county approves. So sue both
@OakSantosh
@OakSantosh Жыл бұрын
This happened with us in Pune India. Luckily,we could resolve the issue and ultimately sell the house. It did cost us a pretty penny, but we got out safely. Big relief.
@markzelinski4434
@markzelinski4434 Жыл бұрын
And that’s a beautiful house! I’d be livid pissed! Sue the county and have them pay for everything
@mandy648
@mandy648 Жыл бұрын
This is heart wrenching and the former builder should face prison time!
@maziegaarak3701
@maziegaarak3701 Жыл бұрын
Why does the statute of limitations only work one way? Ugh, our government is so poorly ran. They obviously paid what they thought were their taxes, they shouldn't owe a thing. I hope they get justice since it wasn't anything they had control over and wasn't their error.
@Glorydancer333
@Glorydancer333 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely horrifying for this couple. They should not be blamed in any way for this perfect storm! Clearly because they payed their taxes consistently, they had the right motives Surely someone can fix this for these dear people!
@MatteBlack2024
@MatteBlack2024 Жыл бұрын
So scandalous. The developer should make them while.
@kylieharrison3782
@kylieharrison3782 Жыл бұрын
The developer no longer exists
@farmerbill6855
@farmerbill6855 Жыл бұрын
There is no developer, these lots had houses on them that were torn down. And the builder is defunct. Title insurance should cover this, this kind of BSA is what it's for.
@TakenTook
@TakenTook Жыл бұрын
The owners even called the city to find out what happened when the tax bill suddenly dropped! They weren't the ones who made the mistake. The city should apply the taxes paid so far to the overdue bill on the proper lot, forgive the difference, cover the legal fees for this family, and just move on with proper taxation going forward.
@benbogg5430
@benbogg5430 4 ай бұрын
Purchase the empty lot and combine them, file for a corrected property tax assessment.
@Etymon-jt3zw
@Etymon-jt3zw Жыл бұрын
That family should be awarded a million dollars for every year the city didn't correct their mistake. And whose ever job it was to collect the taxes and to survey the lot should be immediately fired.
@tiffanycurtis4794
@tiffanycurtis4794 Жыл бұрын
Get outta here dude it’s sad what happened but everyone wants a windfall they did get a settlement listen closely
@Woke365
@Woke365 Жыл бұрын
​@@tiffanycurtis4794 you fool. If it did happen to you you want want more than a million. You cold heartless fool.
@navmarroaming2292
@navmarroaming2292 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that what Title Insurance is for?
@tf8187
@tf8187 Жыл бұрын
This is awful. I hope they sue someone and get their money back & then some.
@michaelevatt6521
@michaelevatt6521 12 күн бұрын
This is not a mistake ! It's pure stupidity on the city's part & the homeowners for not seeing there enormous blunder going on.
@josron6088
@josron6088 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is more common then people think. This just happened to make it on the local news. You could lose everything you have because of somebody else's mistake.
@justlue380
@justlue380 Жыл бұрын
During that time when the house was built, They were building houses like crazy!!! Other homeowners better check their paper work!
@bluered1322
@bluered1322 Жыл бұрын
The fact they corrected the problem and didnt tell the family reminds me off office space
@midwestspeed7889
@midwestspeed7889 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy! I’m glad they own both lots and glad they kept they’re house! And that firm that bought that lot knew what they were doing. They bought that lot knowing that house and family was there and they knew they would get way more money out of the family bcuz they didn’t want to lose a new house they bought smh I hope it all works out for them.
@cedricjackson7521
@cedricjackson7521 Жыл бұрын
It was no way no how they would have known this get a lawyer and sue the city
@B_22_5
@B_22_5 Жыл бұрын
They could have gotten a land survey and avoided this whole mess when they moved it
@jphearson
@jphearson Жыл бұрын
What's so hard about reversing the order of the lots to match the paperwork? That would seem fair to me before anyone had to pay anything. That's too much like right, though.
@OctavioGaitan
@OctavioGaitan Жыл бұрын
They need to lawyer up and sue. That's just unacceptable!
@allbusiness7313
@allbusiness7313 Жыл бұрын
This is why I want to be financially wealthy, to help out families like this.
@BillionairesArentYourFriends
@BillionairesArentYourFriends Жыл бұрын
At this rate it's simply to avoid being them and nothing more.
@philliplewis3754
@philliplewis3754 Жыл бұрын
A house moving company could move this from Lot 38 to Lot 39 no sweat! What is the statue of limitations on stupidity?
@alimadaniels
@alimadaniels Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. Couldn’t they just have the house moved? I wonder if that cost more than what they paid overall? I would have just moved my house to the correct lot.
@ShannonsBibleStudy
@ShannonsBibleStudy Жыл бұрын
Houses in the MW usually have a basement.
@philliplewis3754
@philliplewis3754 Жыл бұрын
@@alimadaniels it's kinda weird but in Canada they move houses all the time. Some are prebuilt floated on barges and transported that way then move on land to their final destination. Average cost to move a 2000² house is $32,000, it starts at $10G's thru $200G's for the mover's and permits. The foundation and construction is extra. Crazy!
@kristinesharp6286
@kristinesharp6286 Жыл бұрын
The house will never be sound again.
@davidzajac4907
@davidzajac4907 Жыл бұрын
Wrong is wrong regardless of any statute of limitations. The woman stated it perfectly. They should be made whole. What is the title company for if not to catch this kind of thing? I wish them well and full recovery of all the funds they lost do to others errors.
@kristinesharp6286
@kristinesharp6286 Жыл бұрын
They know they underpaid taxes for the last 5 years. Something isn’t right about the math. I think it’s in the reporter’s explaining.
@mayurdotca
@mayurdotca Жыл бұрын
THEY OWN BOTH LOTS?? I would take that deal any day of the week!
@atchmon902
@atchmon902 Жыл бұрын
A land survey wouldnt help. They can make the same mistake. All they do is determine the exact boundaries of the lot. They cant change what lot numbers go where. If the assessor and clerk made the mistake, that wouldve just trickled down to the surveyor.
@jamesnewberry1191
@jamesnewberry1191 Жыл бұрын
This is horrible.
@jameshollingsworth4714
@jameshollingsworth4714 Жыл бұрын
This is what Title Insurance is for.
@swannoir7949
@swannoir7949 Жыл бұрын
Title insurance is what saved me from having to pay back taxes of $13k, when it was discovered that the taxes had been 'sold' -- but not paid. You brought up a good point, and I'm surprised no one discussed that in this piece. Doesn't sound like she had any.
@Chocolips05
@Chocolips05 Жыл бұрын
Their title insurance denied it but refused to give the news reporter any comment. It’s also past IL state timeframes to sue
@jameshollingsworth4714
@jameshollingsworth4714 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure when i was listening to the story, Title Insurance was mentioned, but most don't know how the Title policy works, or what it does. Most institutional lenders require a foundation endorsement, I believe a 101.4 which ensures that the house is built on the correct lot. In any case bringing the policy to the Title company that issued that policy should be all that's needed. If they won't take care of it, then it's time to involve an attorney. Of course the home owner/borrower has a duty to react to strange changes in taxes or address before it gets out of hand, rather than simply hoping it will go away. I have owned a Mortgage Company for 40 years, and have seen it all.
@sitcheyr9352
@sitcheyr9352 25 күн бұрын
That is so wrong. I hope they sue the crap out of the county and win.
@Luisin88
@Luisin88 Жыл бұрын
beautiful home, hope they sort this out.
@PennoyerFoyer
@PennoyerFoyer Жыл бұрын
Build a tiny home or two on vacant lot. Rent it to convention members when the DNC comes to town next year.❤❤
@cardinal8268
@cardinal8268 Жыл бұрын
Title company didnt catch it? Appraiser didnt catch it? Building inspector? Most homes have a survey in the original closing envelope so if thats the case, they didnt catch it either. ?
@imwatchingyoutonight
@imwatchingyoutonight Жыл бұрын
This is F'ed up in so many ways.
@SophieRocks
@SophieRocks Жыл бұрын
Now they own BOTH LOTS and their home. Seems they are much better off.
@tvviewer4500
@tvviewer4500 Жыл бұрын
This is why you need a good closing attorney
@LP-bt4jk
@LP-bt4jk Жыл бұрын
Bingo!!!
@GeorgiaWhisper
@GeorgiaWhisper Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@bradimcbride3992
@bradimcbride3992 20 сағат бұрын
They need to sue the county assessor for not informing them
@tykobes4132
@tykobes4132 Жыл бұрын
God bless these two raising a kid the right way
@porsche2577
@porsche2577 Жыл бұрын
This is so unfortunate. It’s the buyer’s responsibility to have a survey done prior to purchasing a home. Buyers have the burden of proof. The only thing that I don’t understand is the title company denying their claim. Title insurance should’ve made them whole. I’m just glad they were able to stay in their home.
@phanna7492
@phanna7492 Жыл бұрын
There's definitely something fishy with the whole title insurance denial...not an attorney; not sure; but it doesn't sound right at all.
@porsche2577
@porsche2577 Жыл бұрын
@@phanna7492 Exactly! I’m no attorney either but in some way this is a title issue 🤷‍♀️
@d.h.dd.h.d.5230
@d.h.dd.h.d.5230 Жыл бұрын
Hey, they shd not have to pay a dime because they had a property title insurance company. It's the title insurance company who insures the titled property. It's their sole job to ensure the property is on the right lot & review the survey for accuracy. It's the title company they need to focus on, legally. Money doesn't expire. Get a tax lawyer. It's fraud.
@OsbornTramain
@OsbornTramain 5 ай бұрын
They didn't get "Taken", it's a mistake that happened, no crime occurred and nobody benefited from a crime, there is no malice here.......I wonder how it all got resolved??
@robgindc1
@robgindc1 Жыл бұрын
They need to sue the state!
@starlight7830
@starlight7830 Жыл бұрын
Who is this private firm?
@s10er8
@s10er8 Жыл бұрын
The private firm was most likely just getting their money back. At that price, they were not making a profit. They actually did a good deed.
@IvoryS2012
@IvoryS2012 Жыл бұрын
They never got a land survey?! If that's true they are stupid! My lender pulled the original surveys from the early 1900s, and they did a survey of my lot and the block! I dont understand how this could have happened?! Before I bought my house I checked the surveys myself because I was afraid to messed this up. Dang. That's why it's so important to take at least one first time home buyers classes.
@elram2649
@elram2649 Жыл бұрын
Terribly messed up! 😢
@Sailor376also
@Sailor376also Жыл бұрын
They DID have a mortgage land survey. Is not that the part of every mortgage?
@CS-qc7np
@CS-qc7np Жыл бұрын
For me, that would be a win. I pay low property taxes on an empty lot for a few years. I just bought the lot that my home is sitting on and now I just bought the lot adjacent to my home which I can fence in, or I can put a rental property on. I hope they turn this horrible disaster into an income producing endeavor. Make lemonade out of lemons.
@flyscdiva
@flyscdiva Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Build on the other lot they have been forced into owning. Build and rent out or flip a house on it. Or just keep the property for their children. Owning land /real estate is not the worst thing. They can stay crying victims. Of take this as a good accident move on and make the most out of it.
@rohiniramanchakrabarti5282
@rohiniramanchakrabarti5282 Жыл бұрын
Father God, only you can fix this for this family. Please help them get back their money and allow them to keep their home with no further threat. They’ve been there since 2005! My God. Had it not been for covid this probably wouldn’t have surfaced. With the economy the way it is currently, everyone is trying to find a dollar. And going back decades to find it. Good Luck to this family. God Bless everyone.
@godiswatching2342
@godiswatching2342 Жыл бұрын
I stand with you in your prayer for this family. Amen.
@truckingwithtobee
@truckingwithtobee 5 ай бұрын
How the hell could this home be mistakenly built on the wrong lot! How did the inspection, building dept, owner of the wrong property not check this out!?
@c-power8393
@c-power8393 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to an "error" no one wants to take the blame.
@mr.grotto
@mr.grotto Жыл бұрын
They own both lots? They will need to sell that lot and still likely be out 20k. They're partially responsible, but nothing near this much.
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