Or a taser

yea thats what i was thinking not to stab someone in a fight

💯 bad parenting

+Angel Estelle Doubt it. She gave that kid a knife to either, scare the other kids away who were bothering her or to do damage. A thirteen year old girl would have a hard time trying to kill a grown man with a switch blade.

+Salene Brom A taser can lead to death too. I watched a doc on it. It's electricity that can go through someone's heart. I guess the chances of someone dying from it are less than a knife.

right. A lost fight maybe a blow to my ego but life will go on. I would rather a bruised ego than be prosecuted for murder

+Cassie Best Ever! Amen Amen!!!😭 so so sad,poor little innocent girl gone2soon!OMG!!!!!

I don't agree a fight can result in death

I'd straight up take an L if I lost a fight, as long as I wasn't talking hella shit before then.

your pretty cute, can we talk

Exactly

+Phonzo Glade Imagine if you were a judge and you constantly seen people like her entering the court and after hearing how the victim suffer or the suspect attacked with little no remorse you would be furious now do it 50 or more times and see how quick ur patience fly's out the window when these parent's and criminal's ask for mercy in stead of just admitting that they deserve zero mercy because there victim got none.

Wow!!!! SMDH

yes just unbelievable

yes just unbelievable

+J. Jermane This social media shit is out of control and how are these kids being raised to where the first thing to do is to fight? Why is the first thing to do is to fight? These parents aren't worth a pinch of shit, this is their fault. I just don't understand it.

Agreed!!

+Lynx Savage 💯

Preach👏👏👏

+Lynx Savage There's grown ass women that have killed people over social media beef so how can the kids be any better than grown ass women with the same mindset.

Right.

+dee MTHC Exactly! she should have had a very serious talk telling her what it was for.. someone trying to kidnap her or something..

very well said Kim I agree. A very sad situation. I wish the girl thought to not get involve and to get help instead. But sad thing is the damage is already done and no turning back. A young girl murdered per stupidity. Not only that HIERARCHIES are racist. Can't believe they charged the mother with murder when I hear stories of white people going on a rampage killing numerous people WITH THEIR PARENTS WEAPON and the parents DO NOT get charged. There was a case don't remember if it was the columbine here in Colorado or another one, but the kid parent were hunters and taught their children how to handle a weapon to kill, even have him his own weapon. This weapon that his parent gave him is what he used to murder numerous kids at his school AND THEY DID NOT CHARGE HIS PARENT WITH MURDER THAT OUTRAGE ME

Also a lot of young girls are at risk of getting rape and is a dangerous world out there so many parents would give them mace to protect themself. I cannot stand the media making it look actually LIEING that the mother told her to use the knife to kill that girl. I'm pretty sure the mother have her the nice to protect herself in case she gets into a dangerous situation. I'm sure her mother is not a psychic. she didn't know her daughter was going to be involving herself in a fighting situation. So they are ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND RACIST ALL THE WAY AROUND! !!

ummm...there was a dispute BEFORE this over some facebook beef...and they said the mother told her to take the blade and use it if needed, which she should NOT have done...why give a child a weapon DURING a fight? if she gave it to her before then...then I can understand

exactly

yep

I don't understand why the mother didn't tell her daughter to stay in the house instead of giving her a knife. Who lets their child run out the door and fight with just anybody that passes the house?

I understand what you are saying, but if someone pulls out a knife out on you thats when you have to let go of you pride and run. Yea it's upsetting when you want to stand up for yourself and fight back, but if you have a Wepon as well you could end up being the one committing the muder, then you end up in jail and what you did on your Conscience for life.

+Crystalmarie Robles The problem with this case is; she wasn't part of the damn fight! SMH

+Frugality Preach!

+Frugality Not manufactures, but the owner/procurer of the gun used in a murder is accountable.

No that's crazy

Absolutely

No... it's not like the guns are malfunctioning and are killing people for no reason. The owner of the gun should be held responsible.

MissT it was for protection tf

MissT it's for she's own the street and sum craxy man true to hurt her that's when need it

I wish more people thought like you did.

+Sam K DCF

There most likely going with other family or adoption places but they usually go with family after their mom or father goes to jail or passes

+Sam K Of course she has 4 other kids!

+Sam K The tax payer is still their daddy, so nothing changes.

kids need someone to teach them.

Kids have always fought, that's life but the reasons why have always changed..

they learn from the politicians, arguing from the UK to the USA.

Children always fight. That's extremely normal.

***** No one said they did that normally but they do fight and thats to be expected.

+mynameistye1 And you would be up on charges like the mom. If you were a good mom, you would not live in Chicago if the crime is so bad. If you were a good mom, you would not be unmarried with 5 children. Whats the over under on at least 3 different fathers?

so that makes you part of the problem

leonche64 Im not a woman but okay.

Eddie Winslow Cool.

+leonche64 cause the mom's not married she's a bad parent .. I don't think so.. an if she lives In the hood doesn't mean she's a bad mom either.. your obviously a child smh

+Freda Bailey thank you so much, and i'm so glad you were able to get out of there. i hate when folks say "just move out the hood" it takes time and you have to be determined to save and get out. it's not easy but i am so glad you left, the south side is only going to get worse. there are no economic opportunities and nothing for people to do but loath each other, or fight & kill over anything it's a powder keg wait to blow at any time. 235 killing already and we're only 6mths in smh.

My husband grew up there until he was 14 years old and moved to the Hyde Park area. It's real bad over there and wouldn't set foot there for anything.

+CrazyTwilight Sparkle, i totally understand now why you wouldn't want to go back there again just with the 2 rude comments towards you because you live some where not as violent. She never said she was better than the either of you, she just realized she didn't want to live in a violent place. You two seem like you fit in there just fine, so i see why you want to live there and have to hate on someone who doesn't like what you like! SMH!

+Breem Dawn I totally agree with you. I was taken aback by their comments as well. Who in their right mind would get mad at someome for deciding to live in a safer area if they could afford it? Especially if they're raising children. I'm very familiar with both places. As I lived in Hyde Park many, many moons ago. Back in the day I had classmates/ friends who lived in Parkway Gardens who rode the school bus to attend my middle school through a selective program. I moved out of state in the 90's. So obviously Parkway has changed for the worse. Anyhow, to everyone, good luck and stay safe wherever you reside.

+lovelyti2002 I love you marry me please

+Russell Westbrook and Cam Newton fan since 2010 Like Birdman? I'm sorry I couldn't resist.

+Abbiiful I was giving one at a young age. I don't think her mom wanted her to use it in this way. Bad area bad ppl. She can't fight off a man. But I used mines in a fight, but I was getting jump and it was weapon already involve. But this is some I probably would had did with my daughter. But now I'm thinking some self defense classes. lol

+Abbiiful Yes I would have even given her a small taser, but a knife no way because if the girl had of gotten that knife taken from her she could have been stabbed and killed, then who would they blame. Protect your child but do it in away where everyone lives to see another day. Smh

+Erin Jones I'm a mother and a great one at that and what ?? People are having ADULT conversations and you have to be childish and start name calling was there any need for your comment ? No

I concur.

good point

I never heard that Roof's dad told him to go kill anyone, unlike this report were the mother told the girl to kill her.

bigboytexasdownsouth Gayden gave her daughter a knife to protect herself. Roof's dad gave him a gun to protect himself. See where I'm going from here? I'm not backing either of them up. I think it's silly to be giving your kids a weapon; a 13 year old at that too. Of course Gayden was charged with murder due to the binding precedent of the previous case that Ti was talking about. And of course Roof's family are from a different State and so the laws differ. However, I'm just confused of how they came to the conclusion that the weapon provider is also a murderer. It makes no sense to me.

If you give your kid a gun and they go to school and shoot someone you're responsible because they can only use the gun when accompanied by an adult; it's up to the adult to make sure the kid doesn't reach the gun when they aren't suppose to.

+Ally Mormont , I see your point but Gayen's son was not a minor.

Tears don't make a difference.

mynameistye1 what is your point exactly?

MsRainbow Brite That tears don't make a difference.. Like I commented..

Take it from someone that have lost a child. when you first lose your child you are so numb and can't believe your child is gone. Reality does not set in for a day or two. This family will cry for the rest of their lives. Birthday, holidays and special moments without your child, you will cry over and over again. The pain never goes away.

mynameistye1 just for future reference, when a comment says "what do you mean?" repeating the comment again doesnt tell me what you mean. You know what you are saying but in writing its not clear exactly your point

Sad lots of fathers ain't no good, else they would be around

Exactly! Where are the dads

+natrulyvivacious That's why women need to watch who they have kids with.

+schnauzer mom bingo!!! I've said it a million times. Women put more effort into finding an outfit and shoes to go out in then finding out info on their potential baby daddies!! If he already has kids that he don't take care of what the heck do you think he's gonna do with yours!! Break the cycle!!!

Latoyia Mingo Very true.

I know right! Smh ridiculous!

+Tera FromTheBlock Because some people don't know how to handle conflict without violence. It's savagery.

+Dalinkwent K 💯 you are absolutely correct.

+Dalinkwent K 9j

exactly! anything could happen when a fight breaks out. It's not right to kill anyone but if someone is protecting themselves anything could happen

that's why ppl should not fight

In this case it's a little different. The girl who got stabbed wasn't even fighting the girl who ended up killing her. But I get what you're saying.

Yeah....self defense...that's why they walked down from their balcony to the street with a knife...to protect themselves lmaooo

+Marie Bronte It's only self defense if your fighting with the same weapon, if that makes sense. They was just fighting with their hands she escalated it when she pulled the knife out.

Better television choices has nothing to do with a mother providing a weapon to a child tf...

there are other reasons why people get violent im not objecting to do that. However, people never realize how much the things you consume through books and tv affect you till you begin to act it out.

***** thats great! be the best you can be always! theres more ahead for you than petty nonsense

it always gotta happen on a mlk.smh typical

Dumbass teen mom, with too many kids, who is now older and still a dumbass. That's the only other one I could think of.

+devilangel777 Dumbass "black" teen mom with too many kids.

so sad but true

35yr old single mother of 5 kids just to survive

+Faith Graham thank you so much and be safe out there, people are crazy all over especially in chi, i'm glad you just walk away it's not even worth it to fight no more.

+lovelyti2002 you are so dope I love watching you .. Your commentary takes me thru my 12 hr shifts lol ... From one beautiful chocolate sista to another Be BLESSED... And thanks so much

+Racine773 Exactly.

+lovelyti2002 Chicago is a beautiful place....a lot of areas have changed for the better...people are not just running around killing people...it's the Internet and unfit parents like this...mind your business and you'll be just fine here...there's plenty of places that's worst then Chicago!

I'm 38..and I've been in Chicago all of my life...experienced gangbanging when the projects were up...and there were more murders in the projects alone then it is in Chicago in a year now...my point is 90% of this stuff comes from social media...the mother is more to blame then anyone...this could have easily been avoided with good parenting...it's easy to stop a couple of young girls from fighting...people are so consumed by social media...and taping nonsense and putting it on the Internet...they need to start charging these grown ass men sitting around watching and taping this nonsense!

back then kids were getting shot and stabbed too. check out the stats. gang violence was no joke back in the day

Teaching your daughter to be a Coward! Stand your ground

Lol why is this even a conversation? Everybody has to be the devil's advocate I swear smh

+Monkey Paw Honestly. I wasn't planning on answering back. I just genuinely wanted to know what you thought the worst crime was. Thank you for your insight.

Agreed her daughter did too much. If I live in a dangerous environment I will bring things to protect myself with. The daughter doesn't understand the difference between an actual life threatening situation and kids just fighting. I carried things for protection while I was at school and I never used them on children it was to be used if someone was trying to kill, kidnap or rape me.

Introvertsan Indeed. This is a real shame all around.

christiandivamd Understood, but on the World Stage, when the media are hosting, Chi-Raq is all we see. The politicians don't care to change the state of affairs. The poverty and lack of resources lead to hopelessness and crime. And good honest people are always the silent victims.

Anyone with Common Sense knows that the crime is centralized, just like we all know that the Media is biased. My point is nothing is changing and it is a shame for all the people caught up in it.

According to an article, the mother is in trouble because she knew her daughter was headed out to fight and told her to get the switchblade out of her purse and use it. I agree with you, she could've had her daughter stay home instead, avoiding fights is obviously the safest choice.

Kylise Mcgee She was only 15 but on a good track in school, I'm sure college was in her future.

Exactly...tell her to stay her ass in the house.

+bella flame this

+Kylise Mcgee this too

😵😂😂💀

+Jacqueline Quinn Dey kawn't spel purty

MsChinBK99 What a damn shame.

+Jacqueline Quinn I had to think for 5 seconds. What ? LOL. I'm not on Facebook ( DRAMA) but I get what you're saying. I hear it all the time. I think to my self, were you born in the 20th century, from the older generation, in the south! I guess some people think it's normal and because they're black.

Murderous Ann I'm so lost lol

+MzYumYum69 whats in the food ? I'm interested to know... if heard this before but I'm not sure what it is

Ramla salad chemicals that affect adrenals, serotonin and epinephrine. A lot of artificial and chemical additives are in food hence the name junkfood. People think the only side affects to a bad diet is weight gain or diabetes but its much deeper than that. The aggression levels are being raised.

thanks a lot for that its important to know these things.

+Ivelisse Concepcion I get the impression things must be so bad in their neighborhood that they all have it in the back of their minds that one day they'll get a call saying their loved one got caught up in some mess and wont be coming home. It's sad.

Yes the mother and the father both seemed very nonchalant 😕😤

I get what you are saying but they could be so desensitized even if it is their own child

Always remember that people react to death in different ways. There's no right or wrong way. Sometimes people have a delayed reaction to death also. This is all still very fresh. They need our prayers, not our judgement.

Yeah I get that people react differently but they are just too collective. Chicago is my home town. It's no happy go lucky city. One does have to watch their back constantly. Smh. I can't imagine what this family is going through.

I blame the digusting trash of a mother these black american mother's are the worst. And let me make this clear "not all" but most Who would want to be around there nasty ass attitudes. This is sad because the mother should of went up to the school and had a meeting with the girls parents and teachers before giving her child a weapon.

to charge a kid as an adult is the same as convicting a woman as a man.

+Sonia Singh you mean how the girl walked from HER balcony down to fight and then pulled a knife out to stab the girl....I'm sure she didn't know what she was doing though...lmao

+giggidy giggidy lol are you serious? Convicting a woman as a man doesn't make jail time more or less. Convicting a woman doesn't mean she possibly didn't know what she was doing. Idiot.

Sonia Singh when she has children, it should happen to her... Then see if she'll be saying the same stupid shit

+mskiara101 scary shit eh..lives lost for what, a fight!

It's not just in the hood. People die everyday from anything.

+Smiley Taysha and the way TI was explaining it i kind of got confused , so the girl that died was she with the group that started it ?or was they the ones tryna defend themselves ?

I'll give my daughter pepper spray for protection because it's Chicago, a really dangerous place if you're out on the streets alone at night. I would never give her a knife though.

Lolz I live in Chicago I know how it can be ,but violence is everywhere so I really would wish ppl could stop acting like ppl can't die anywhere (Its sad ,but its the truth )

+Smiley Taysha I dont think No one will ever really know the answers to your questions.. All U will hear is many different nonsensical answers if you were to ask her family or the ones that were there if the victim was involved in the fight.. I heard she was just watching, she defending herself, she was fighting the girl one-on-one to she was with some ppl jumping the 13yo... I agree that the intent should make a HUGE difference when it comes to the mother giving her the knife.. But the moral of the story is, remove your child from these dangerous areas ASAP!!

+christiandivamd you talking about another situation or this one?

Exactly!!

It's sad real sad black woman don't know their worth that's why.

i agree!!!!

Your dad gave you a knife when you were in college, a little older and wiser. More likely to understand when it is appropriate to pull out or not, in this case a 13 yro's brain isn't developed enough to logically reason like an adult. Also your friend losing a fight that doesn't involve you is not reason to pull out a knife to stab someone. Separate them, break it up, call her parents definitely but stab. You when stab someone, they will be seriously hurt and you will be in serious trouble. That's precisely what happened. The real problem is people teaching kids to handle their own problems. Instead kids she discuss troubles with peers to parents, and all parents should meet to resolve it. Hormonal teenagers don't usually have the skills to do that. This is beyond sad, and occurs toooo often to just blame the kids.

BiContinental Life&Style I hear what you are saying I was older but you can't go unprotected in really bad neighborhoods. It's not logical especially as a female. In an ideal world we would all talk things out and raise our kids better but that probably won't ever happen. In the real world you get jumped for nothing but walking down the street like what happened to my brother before we got out of a bad situation. Now about staying out of the fight......that's hard because a common thing taught is that you are supposed to defend your friends and family. It comes down the the fact that no one taught these kids what to do except fight. At the end of the day they failed their kids and want to blame each other. I find it ridiculous that the families started to act up in the courtroom. What does that say about their values?? I've never been in a fight because I don't run my mouth, stay out of business that's not mine, don't want to be beat and hang around the right people. It's easy to teach other kids the same thing.

I understand what you are saying and agree with some of it. But your dad did 22 things this mother did not, teach you how to mind your business and stay away from drama and equip you with a weapon later in life when you can reason better and he is not around to protect you. I went to a bad school and saw fighting and my family did not endorse that. Other families did though, it was and still is wild to give a 13 year old a weapon to deal with another child, especially when you are the parent and are home during the conflict. The families were fighting because the court testimony indicated that the mother was home before the incident and knew there was conflict and told her daughter to take the knife. She could have told her to stay in the house, while she go out and mediate. People rely on the streets, life lessons or others to rear their kids. That is wrong, children need direction and input from responsible adults. People are upset with the mother because, why bring 5 children into the world when you cant afford to raise them in a safe environment. Why not get involved enough to where she is not constantly in dangerous situations unattended. Have friends or relatives pick her up walk her home, there no guarantee she'll be safe but it betters her chances to end up like you, in college instead of in jail. and on the news as an embarrassment. I agree it is easy to teach but A LOT of parents are not doing it And that puts so many others at risk..

Strange Made I think it's half and half. I can see why the mother would give her the knife but... The girl used it for the wrong reasons

Strange Made I don't think that's true at all. We aren't as bad as you think... People just only report all of the bad stuff other people do. What about the teenager that used Twitter to catch the robber going around stealing stuff in his neighborhood? We have sources that can educate us ourselves... Sure, people use social media for fighting but that's only the bad which is a really small bunch that gets tons of attention. It's like Donald Trump. He gets a lot of attention, says all these bad things and people piss on most politicians. Or bad cops, you don't hear a cop saving a women's life or stuff like that because they only report the bad stuff. It's unfair how much of a bad name they give social media when the bad gets the most attention.

Strange Made How am I lying to myself? So all cops are bad?

Strange Made O shit, where's my trophy?

+Strange Made exactly. these days they are condoning kids being disrespectful. like when Skai went off on Azealia Banks..that wasn't cute nor cool at all but so many adults not looking at the fact that this lil girl shouldn't even be comfortable enough to bat an eyelash at an adult. . these new teens are so odd. i thank goodness my bambino is not like that

+Mye Westbrooks No you mean one life was lost the other one and her parent will live on and yes let's blame the parent's who were not their when the crime want down surely these self aware teen's could not simple register that this fghting was pointless and that teen with the knife had no clue that the weapon could kill some one if she hit the vital point's on a person body such logic thinking could not be expected of a teen her age heck I should be ashamed of myself for thinking that any teen can be capable of thinking like that we should all refrain from thinking that these girl's at their age can think for themself's.

I have been caring one every since I can remember. I don't think it's the mom fault. She could had been giving her a blad to protect herself of real danger. Possible Kipp nap. I almost went to jail for stabbing up a girl cause I got jump 1 to many times. Now days kids pull weapons on one on one

There is a lot of single parent homes within the black inner city population and that does play a major role in raising and rearing children. Sad. This future generation.. Smh

Latoyia Mingo that is because of history. We came here with nothing, and if a family try to get some type of assistance to support their families, they can't if the dad is around. It then cause for desperate measures, to break up with the dad just to live a little bit better than when he was around.

Hummm......

It's time to break that cycle. I'm not quite sure how though....

People can't have 5 kids by one man?

+vonie94 not in 2016 no they cant.. people can barely spell marriage now a days let alone wait to build a family unit. today people have sex and get pregnant.. it's no longer like the times when people had large families in monogamy.. it's sad.. and rare.. but the majority have starting line up with children and can't remember who the father is..

vonie94 I hope they are all by the same guy, but lets be real here; this lady gives her 13 yr old a knife to harm someone which gives me sense of her mentality (hood as fuck) and those type of women are usually unmarried and with a wrack of kids...I hope I'm wrong tho and I hope they're all by the same guy, but I doubt it....

+Kurly AF U sound dumb asf

LMFAO!! You're funny.

She is being charged

+KEYBEATZ Why using a knife while your friend is fighting?

+KEYBEATZ UHH IDK YOUNG ONES DYING EVERYDAY THERE AND UMM IDK MAYBE A MOTHER FEARED FOR HER DAUGHTERS LIFE MORE THAN THE LIFE OF ANOTHER. YA PUNISH HER AND HER CHILDREN FOR BEING A MOTHER AND MAKING AN INSTINCTUAL CHOICE IN A WARZONE.

NOT TO KILL FOR PROTECTION. JUST. INCASE

+Monique Lewis To KILL someone while protecting yourself. The mother should have given her daughter mace instead...but the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...she's probably exactly like the daughter.

girl, and i dont blame her. me and my daughter is the same way and thats the best way

+Renee Atkins I get the fear, but human beings are social beings. You can't stop friendships because you're scared of trouble. What you actually do is teach your children to choose their friends wisely. There are tons of teens who carry on healthy social lives because they've chosen friends who don't have time for mess.

u are absolutely right. your not suppose to fear no one but god. but in my opinion im tired of especially females fighting and dying over nothing, it just isnt worth it. i would rather for my daughter to be with her boyfriend than a female friend any day.

well, u are right about that

lm just so tired of all of this violence, especially these young girls. im glad my 22 year old daughter made it through school

You can raise your child the "right way" but at the end of the day kids choose to do what they want. my mom raised me right but i make my own choices

+MiMi Davis I agree but apparently this mom kinda sucked since she gave her daughter the knife. I'm trying to give her the benefit of doubt if she gave her daughter the knife for protection.

+MiMi Davis Exactly. So, the mom should have been smarter and not given her unstable teenage daughter a knife.

+Kimberly Ferrell My problem with this is, the daughter told her mother that there is a fight going on, and she wants to go over, and mom gave her the knife because of that. But WHAT made her give that child a damn knife, instead of simply telling her to stay in the house? That would have been the real protection, in my opinion.

SoramimiKeiki I'm tending to agree with you. I was giving them the benefit of doubt. But if you thought your daughter was in so much danger you will get to the bottom of it, you don't give her a knife and send her on her way. If my kid was being threatened I want to see faces and know names mothers and kids.