I hate developed Futher on this one. Hopefully helps make him much more stronger would be great and has a rematch with Attriox and this time it has a different outcome

I think he more like the ancient humans and is going to live longer while staying in a physical younger state. He might live to be 100s or 1000s of year's old.

@@BreakinUpBuds that is an interesting one

Hopefully he comes closer to ancient humans, I would like that

@@BreakinUpBuds I’m pretty sure in 00’s breakdown of the Spartan IV’s that he explained the augmentations would allow them to live well into their 100’s, I wonder if the II’s are already up longevity wise

These already exist in the form of bio foam injectors

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As was mentioned, the in-lore reason for regening health post CE, but not in Reach, is because the Chief got his new Gen 1 Mk VI armor that included built-in biofoam injectors. The Gen 1 Mk V armor as seen in CE and Gen 1 Mk V(B) armor from Reach did not have the built-in injectors, just ports where cans of biofoam could be injected (such as when a health-pack is picked up in-game).

hey guys, thanks for the replies. I'm not too well versed the lore of the game. I understand now but it does seem silly that the suits seem to have a unlimited supply of this bio-foam. Maybe 343 or the guys who write the books might end up saying that the chief uses bio-foam, on top of the healing augments but I know that idea isn't canon, also that it may never be canon.

@@mrhbn9251 Spartans do heal very quickly due to their augmentations. Not video game quick but for example, Douglas-042 was able to recover from having his shoulder literally crushed by atriox before the end of the conflict on the ark. As for the regen in the games, it’s basically just a mechanic to have it be infinite

Well, thorne didn't have his helmet which completes the connection to his suit. so he woulden't have been at his best at that point in time, and even then he still took down a few elites in hand to hand combat. something a normal marine could never do.

@@cripticgamer2063 True, there's a massive gap between a Marine and a Spartan-IV, but there's a massive gap between SPARTAN-IIs and IVs as well.

@@bromtaegan4606 yeah well I mean the 4s most senior veteran not the spartan 3 transfers are what only half a decade at most as a spartan? The Gen II ARMOR compensates for Spartans iv augmentation to he as powerfully as a spartan 2 in Gen I

@@wb7585 Aye, right again, but a Spartan-II in Gen 2 armour retains the advantage over the IVs. Not just through augmentations or armour, but a Spartan-IV without a helmet is... Pretty weak. Still above Marines and ODSTs, but even without armour, IIs are a lethal force. It's part of them in a way that the IVs just can't understand. If they could, then they'd finally be able to be true Spartans. Until then, they'll always feel like weaker and lesser copies.

@@bromtaegan4606 considering the Locke who is a highly trained oni assassin who went behind covenant lines multiple times prior to his augmentation was able to hold his own against chief (neither of the two was trying to kill on another only incapacitate) and do damage to a 2 that they wouldn't just let happen even when holding back that's wrong. IVs might not have as potent of augmentations but they have a wider range of them and their armor makes up for the lack strength

Right, very agreed and a good point-out. The whole reason Halsey did her genetic screening protocols, went through gene augmentation and then even a step further physical augmentations leading to structural superiority (muscle and bone both) alongside advanced biometric integration of next-gen neural link interfaces.... ALL of that dangerous (psychotic, ...?) process was simply so she could get her IIs to where she could sync them with MJOLNIR. The Retconian (*COUGHS* I'm ok, sorry I mean the Librarian... hey I'm forty now, I love sci-fi and grew up with the Bungie era) said that her geas likely led to all of these advances, and considering all of the very meticulous (and illegal) lengths Halsey had to go to in engendering this terrifying sequence of events is... premeditated even by my sci-fi standards. I know Bungie didn't just dump everything after Halo 3 and disappeared narratively (Reach maybe withstanding?) they had notes and story and lore and yay! and I love it. I really do like the deep-dive of the Forerunner novels, and just... gah. Honestly the Halsey Journal is my favourite thing Bungie's EVER given me. And I *LOVE* the games. *hugs* I love that journal. Halsey and even humanity as a whole was obviously following a geas to reach this point, what was the trigger? AI? The horrific brain-scan tech that makes smart AI? I know that Forerunner ancilla are implied to decay but only after millennia, it's still terrifying to me that they used Composing Technology in the way that it works... and used it on other advanced species preferentially... much like Halsey's flashcloned brains? Good gracious mercy. Everything she did was dark op as F, and I don't even know here. I just don't know. I was the *ONLY* moron screaming "MIRANDA'S HALSEY'S DAUGHTER" at Halo 2 all those years ago, due to the books lol... Annnnnyway. The Forerunner are ok with driving a lot of folk insane as long as someone is productive regarding "The Plan." Sounds kinda familiar. Gosh I'm babbling a wreck I'm sorry, anyway you're right and I'm incredibly impressed with the R&D (ONI was going nutz I'm sure for a while now) leading to new Spartans... and honestly I'm GLAD to see the IVs, scared but glad. I'm just... it's like with all black ops mate it's, what'd they do to get to this point? You know folk in ONI were doing a LOT of stuff with her protocols... and happily pin all of it on her... Being an old girl, I've got the "Original Halo Encyclopaedia by DK Publishing" from back around Halo 3, where even then they had a profile section of Buck. "If he was any better, he'd be a Spartan." Well colour me intrigued and OH Halo 5 alright yes please oh gosh no I'm sorry no I'm sorry no.... but Buck and more IVs yes.... gah no...." Best wishes Dr. Chief, I hope you're well! Thank you for your thoughts and time. :D Be safe

@@wren7195 just how much do you know about the Halo lore? 😳

@@criss3619 LOL I'm sorry... TOO much....? too much.

@@wren7195 The more the better :)

@@wren7195 Don't let ONI catch wind of this! Delete while there is time!!!

Femoral bleed is a helluva drug

@@hf117j if your leg was badly burnt you wouldn't bleed, the wound would be cauterized

@@commandingsteel let's not forget that the Heated Projectile would impart Kinetic Energy, meaning that some chunks of your Leg would be Torn or Shredded instead of Cauterized

@@avery1647 true, but my guess is the armor stopped most of the kinetic energy, but still allowed the heat to pass through

@@commandingsteel I guess, but it really depends on where the Projectile hit. The skin suit that is apparent between the gaps in the Armor Plating might not be able to fully absorb the Kinetic Energy

what he got from the Librarian? "we don't talk about that" ~fn 343. I still resent the aimless, on the go narrative direction 343 has taken and is taking halo.

@@Dan_Therapist I think the gift the librarian gave to Master Chief are for 343 like a narrative resource so when they want master chief to have some special ability or want him to survive something they can use it as an excuse. So they will never completely reveal what tose gias do.

Probably some time in the ~25 years between when they first saw combat and the fall of reach. Also don’t discount the fact that slip space travel still takes months and Spartans heal rapidly

i would say between 4 and 5

Between 3 and 4 Nanomachines, son

Contain a flood outbreak?

Compromise I ment.

Worse now, The Endless

@@thevideolord The Endless are absolutely not worse than the flood.

​@@thevideolord the flood continue to be the greatest threat to the halo universe ever a single flood outbreak on earth was all it took for half of Africa to be bombarded from orbit

He now has skintanium armor…

OMG🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

he has perhaps the biggest balls of any human in existence excluding the obvious chips, Johnson, val and a few more.

In some ways, Commander Shepard post-Project Lazarus is the Mass Effect equivalent of a Spartan, especially the Soldier class and especially with all the additional armor upgrades and researchable bio-augmentations.

@@dianabarnett6886 I say he's a Spartan IV at best, but not quite the level of a Spartan II, would be dope to see him in a set of Gen II Mjolnir though.

@@thevideolord Agreed.

I mean he can survive getting crushed by a ship and other stuff. Definitely a mass effect Spartan

@@finger1651 Enhanced reflexes, strength, and speed. Reinforced bones and healing. Can fistfight and headbutt species way tougher and stronger than normal humans. Can fire weapons that would literally shatter the arms of the unaugmented. Oh yeah, I bet if you gave him/her a neural implant, Shepard could wear Mjolnir.

@@revolverswitch haha

He didn't want to kill a fellow Spartan.

Completely agree. Especially given chiefs nature he isnt naturally inclined to kill another spartan.

@@HypnoticProphet1 His body language proves you right. Basically that whole fight Chief noticeably pulls his punches, and is constantly breaking off the attack to watch what Locke is doing, as if hoping Locke will stay down.

@@redrenegade7724 yeah he punched the ground and missed on purpose to show Locke how devastating it would be if he had tried to actually hit him.

The density of that musculature is exactly what allows gives them their strength…

You make a good point. Could explain why Chief drowns in water. Swimmers have soft flexible muscle which gives them the strength and mobility to swim faster. Chief moves like a robot because he isn't as flexible.

The cost of the Spartan-II project really came from Project MJOLNIR. Each suit of armor was the price of a small starship. In comparison to the hardware, the human component of the Spartan-II program was relatively inexpensive. The other thing to keep in mind is that ONI, and Halsey, believed the Spartan-II project to be basically a last ditch effort to stop the Insurrection from destroying Humanity. As such, the cost was not really a factor in considering if the project should have any delays. They could not delay. ONI wanted super soldiers ready as soon as possible, but at a certain point more money doesn't reduce the time that takes. Halsey picked augmentations based on, essentially, two criteria: first, will the side effects of the augmentation hinder the Spartan, and two, can this potentially deadly treatment not be used and still allow the Spartan to be as effective as he or she needs to be to get the job done, and not die anyways. The technology of the time, and the state of the Insurrection, meant that these kids needed to be augmented when they needed to be augmented. And what they would be needed to do dictated how powerfully they needed to be augmented. After that, the rate of mortality was going to be whatever it would be, there was nothing more they could do that they hadn't already. And, Halsey cryo freezing the "failed" candidates was not just with the hope that they could be revived later, but that those Spartans that remained active would be able to buy Humanity the time for there to be a "later." And then the Covenant arrived on Harvest, and the fate of Humanity shifted almost entirely away from the Insurrection.

An immense part of a Spartans strength comes from the armor itself. Don’t get me wrong, they’re still incredibly fast and strong out of armor, but the armor substantially multiplies strength. Also without all the augs of a spartan your body would simply crush itself trying to use Mjolnir

Think of it this a spartan in just base form is the hand , but with they're suits of armor they are the hand and the hammer .

I don't think so. I remember reading somewhere that the combat suits not the armor, the suit under that is full of nano bots that supposed to take care of stuff like that.

Training and experience still matters. Almost no other Spartan has as much of either compared to anyone on Blue Team. Much less training or experience against other humans in hand to hand. Not to mention the bone grafts the II's have would make every punch devastating compared to the other Spartans that don't have the same level of augmentation. To put it simply. You want to fight an unarmored and unarmed Spartan II on an even playing field. You need another Spartan II.

So basically an astartes.

Spartan III’s received better training than the Spartan II’s because Kurt wanted them to be better. With that being said, Spartan II’s have more experience (excluding Red Team).

@@rorschach1848 being trained by an experienced 2 would have been a huge bonus, probably helps that the surviving 2's have pretty much "adopted" the remaining 3's into their Spartan family and would be continuing to actively training them outside of missions

Skill and genetics and the fact the 2 augmentations made the 2s far stronger than 3s or 4s. So yeah there's more than one difference. Speed, reflex, strength, skill and now experience.

@@rorschach1848 Just cause Kurt says it's better doesn't mean it is. He also said the 3s were better yet kelly would have violated the 3s. Every other book about spartans leads to Spartan 2s being the best at everything and having it the worst. Besides 3s being canon fodder I would say that's pretty true. Even Buck believes Spartans like Jun aren't even in the same league as a spartan 2 which is true.

"You stopped fighting because your thigh was getting melted away by plasma? Sounds like a skill issue." 🤣 Master Chief is such casual badass some times.

A fair argument. However there are some limitations. The muscle enhancement Augmentation effectively increases density and strength through a similar mechanism to follistatin, so in that respect, the suppression of myostatin would have negligible effects on the Spartans already immense strength. Graphene is immensely strong, but it's strength is measured based on a similar analogue. Thicker graphene effectively turns into Graphite. Graphite is brittle. Even if the graphene is deposited in perfectly ordered matrices, there would be no sheer strength or compressive strength the only useful property would be tensile strength (stretching), and there are precious few circumstances where bones are pulled into breaking. It's much more common for compressive and sheer forces to be what breaks bones, mainly because pulling forces would damage ligaments and connective tissues long before the bone themselves.

@@Installation00 you could have a layer system with the graphen since it's and atom layer thin I would coat the whole suit and maybe even try to chart joint movement and try to graph it to the muscle and tendons increasing the strength. Love the lore u cover brilliant as always, If your on zeta halo anytime soon try and grapple and fusion coil mid jump from the top while it's standing up right most beautiful thin iv seen to date.

The guys missing a chunk of his quads, so think of it more like "I'm vaguely aware that it is uncomfortable but I'm able to run on it and kick Brutes in the face so hard my boot comes off"

i mean he's still the badass guy we all know and love but its a plasma bolt, we are still probably a couple millennia off from augmentations that can shrug off plasma

@@Installation00 This is accurate to the past situation

Ah Chief and his understatements. What a way of saying "I am in unbearable agony, and if I wasn't the galaxy's biggest badass, I'd be crying under this helmet"

I was thinking that when I clicked on this video. Chief's healing ability might have been empowered by whatever the Librarian did to him, which doesn't apply to the rest of his fellow surviving Spartan IIs or the IVs. However, Chief most certainly have given Halsey information about that event after the Halo 5 events. She could have looked into him and found something, then developed more augmentation based on Chief's biological enhancement and given that to Blue Team. Still, we don't know enough about everything Spartan so that's just speculations and what 00 said might not be 100% accurate because we only have tiny bit's of Chief's case to look into. That being said, being able to fight after getting a huge chunk of flesh burned clean off while having molten metal dripping on the wound is just gnarly.

343 seems to have completely dropped the plot of whatever else the Librarian may have done to him besides the immunity to the Composer. She also seemed to imply things for Cortana that were obviously dropped from the plot as well. I am getting tired of 343 killing major characters off screen between games. They did it with the Didact (he did survive Halo 4), and, light spoilers if you haven't watched any Infinite playthroughs...... Cortana and now apparently Atriox were both killed off before Infinite.

@@brentbartley6838 I don't mind spoilers, actually. In fact, the ending is one of the things I really didn't like about this game. They made Atriox in Halo Wars 2 just to have him going up against Cortana off-screen and we never get a chance to fight this dude. Seriously? He kicked both Red Team's and Chief's asses but we, as the Master Chief, don't get to have our revenge? COME ON 343! Why create 2 super dangerous antagonists and have them kill each other? Why can't we fight either of them? That's stupid as hell! Now I understand 343 needed to play safe after the shit show named Halo 5, but that's playing it TOO SAFE! I feel somewhat robbed when the game ended! They call Infinite Halo 3's spiritual reboot but we can't have Atriox die by our hands like Truth (sure, Arby sunk his sword into the old geezer but you get the point)? BRUH!

@@regularasiandude17 Legendary Ending Spoiler: Atriox isn't dead :v

And Didact is digitized in the Composer. So... uh, if a Bias construct wanted to, they could bring him back.

Yeah, what they could do with their biology was somewhat limited by the fact that they are all already matured adults, so they made up the difference with more advanced armor and I think some mechanical augmentation.

Better yet. He took all the weight plates while Spartan IVs in the room with him all would gathering around having bets with each other while Blue team watches in the background smirking. 😆 I can see this happening in R&R.

I'd expect chief to have his own special lift chamber because considering he can flip a damn tank I'm not sure you can fit enough plates of a barbell to actually phase him

It is entirely possible. At this point we can't say for sure. Though, the Spartan-IV augmentations, at least in part, require a certain degree of maintenance. Be that in the form of a strict diet, medication, or actual technical maintenance. By contrast, the Spartan-II's and the Spartan-III's (excluding Gamma company) do not need any of that. They likely need to eat more than a normal human, but they don't need to eat additional exotic (for a human diet) materials like the Spartan-IV's. This means that the II's and III's can effectively be in the field indefinitely, such as Spartan-II Grey Team, while the IV's either cannot, or operate at reducing efficiency the longer they are in the field. So, giving the II's and III's the IV's augments may not be a no-brainer sort of move.

Spartan 4s we’re never meant to be better than Spartan 2s or 3s. The best way to think of them is as a amped up Orion project

The Strongest Spartan Generations: 1. Spartan II's(Master Chief) 2. Spartan III's(Spartan B312 Noble 6) 3. Spartan IV's(Gabriel Thorne) 4. Spartan I's(Avery Johnson)

Spartan IV's get most of their power from their armor. Yes, they have modifications, but not nearly as much as the IIs or III's.

@@jesusofbullets i think spartan 4's have all the augmentations, but they don't have the cat2 or cat3 genes for the most part and where augmented as adults, meaning the effects take far longer to manifest to the same degree and there has to be medical monitoring and augmentation tweaking for a long time before the augmentation stabilizes.

in halo infinite, 7 years have past since the first wave of s4 augmentations. spartan 2 were trained for 8 and spartan 3 for 6 years. i think there are a decent amount of s4's now that have reached spartan level training, conditioning and had enough time to grow into their augmentations.

They need to reverse engineer more Forerunner tech into Chief's set of Gen II and potentially more augmentations as well. Could you imagine Chief with the Didact's force powers? (Though its clear that most of Infinite's story is undoing the mistakes of Halo 4 and 5 and giving a sort of fresh start to the series. It almost feels like all of the important beats from Combat evolved were hit in Infinite's story)

When???

@@bradchampion687 In the book Halo: Shadows of Reach

That is classified

Chief is better at fighting because cutscenes are finally starting to be more lore-friendly.

You keep saying he's so different we've never seen this yet you haven't given one example. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

By actions and movements one can tell in every halo game by this shows his very differences in how the problems are very subtle in its definition. The fact is master chief in this game clearly in tone and movement he’s different therein is then drastically changed by mood and function. If you need more just listen to this channel. Installation00 is very much the true lore master we the fans need and can truly respect. As to other lore content I can list it. If not as installation00 will surely can.

@@raymondhatton3224 I've been watching and reading halo lore forever and I've been subscribed to installation 00 since 20k subs. Anyways im not discrediting your claim but all the evidence you mention can be wrote off to purely gameplay entertainment or cinematic quality showing of said console engine at the time. Maybe his personality is a little different but when it comes to actual physical movement combat etc any one of those examples can easily be written off.

@@rushpatriot2866 you may have a point. Story wise it’s different through all of them. As for the game here it’s clearly something very different and the shear way master chief by default he is acting on different actions and mood. He has never been this or act like this by any means. Though I wonder as to what is going on story wise and game play. What will happen fight wise. We will see tomorrow.

came here hoping to find an answer for that as well

same!! looking for it, if I find it I will post it here for you