That's America for ya

and tax payers had to suffer for it! :(

Josh's father was a piece of work as well....I watched a documentary about this case and it made my skin crawl.

I hope her remains are found someday so she can have a proper burial. Josh was so evil!

Yup and thanks stupid progressive courts for yet again getting innocent people killed.

You're absolutely right....the 911 call pissed me off SO MUCH! The caseworker tried to get the 911 operator to listen, it was horrible. She should have been escorted by law enforcement, especially with Susan's fears 😢

@@robinenoch7362 Not even, the kids never should have been allowed near him until he was cleared as a suspect.

I dont think one case of negligence shows anything in particular and it would be a state level negligence, anyway. It's a sad story but trying to turn it into some broader political statement is also disrespectful. However, the reality that most dangers come directly within the family or peer group is a fact that people tend to ignore.

Just sloppy disgusting what happened to the family ( he’s a coward)

@@ataridc you think this is a rare occurrence for a government entity? lol that kind of thinking is why government is such a dismal failure, in this case with protecting children. Your stance of turning a blind eye to government failures resulting in the death(s) of anyone is outright ridiculous, shameful and exactly why government failures will continue. Obviously you don't know who "we the people" are and just how much power and sway we actually have if we used it more.

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She led him on

I always thought maybe he was the one that killed her have to watch the documentary again but it was sick they way he taped her and watched her… her poor family the loss of their daughter then there 2 grandchildren is heartbreaking

@@waltergreenwood4460What do you mean by that?

@@waltergreenwood4460 Even if she did give him reason to think she was into him, there's zero excuse for being a creepy weirdo towards someone. Fuck off.

@@waltergreenwood4460 you are the type of man women need to be afraid of.

When he came at her to take her life that’s probably what was going through her mind. What an absolutely sickening and horrible feeling that must have been, knowing she was right and couldn’t do a thing about it.

Reminds me of a story, told by the experiencer, she was a therapist’s client seeing her for the stalking by an ex she was going through and it was getting bad. The therapist cried and confided she was going through it too. The client felt like she was I danger for sure but it was more shocking that her therapist was killed. I’m probably remembering it wrong, maybe the therapist didn’t say anything, but it’s the fact she needed help too and it ended this way. It’s very unfair.

@@deadinside8781 if the therapist did that then she was being unprofessional, because therapists are never really supposed to share their lives or problems with their clients. But, even it’s true, that’s really sad. May she RIP

Yes this one had me fuming! It so easily could've been avoided, but nope ofc not bc domestic anything always gets pushed under the rig, unless you're rich or have ties and it still sides w the abuser 9/10 times. It's disgusting.

​@@deadinside8781wow that's really sad. It's irritating that there's countless stories like that. It's not right and that breaks my heart.

Susan wasn't normal either...

The ole apple doesn't fall far from the tree....

Where u found this info ? I wanna join the rabbit hole 🕳️ 😅

@@allykatt1908 There's a whole documentary on dateline and I think 48 hours too.

@@krisluvsutube2684 ok cool so what do I type ?

@@allykatt1908I found a video that I think kinda talks about some of that creep’s (father In law) tendencies kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hceDerigyNGUoJ8.htmlsi=43qPOFiMyaBQ0S_Z

As a Canadian, I can confirm that this is unfortunately very common in first nation communities. Most likely the cause is racism, pure and simple. The cops think first nations are lesser people and so don't care.

the canadian police has a huge problem with racism, especially towards natives

Yup even police would threaten to kill us. I would know because it happened to me and my native sisters/brothers.

@@cuwiknagajeeyaku9788 similar things have happened to us people of colour, especially natives and black people here in the united states. so sorry that happened to you guys 💔💔

​@@stantinashenowand those on low income, too or alone

The problem is that the word narcissist is used so much recently that people who are actually suffering at the hands of someone who has Narcissistic personality disorder NPD are not understood as to the things that might sound petty or little to others they tell or question about to their friends the severity of the situation if the narcissist gets on to the fact that they’re leaving them could as here be fatal and to children too very sad case and one that we seem to be hearing about more often

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Right

Sounds like a mountain lion or something.

Sound like he was getting his damn throat torn out. Horrifying.

it gave me goosebumps.

Sounded like strangulation, suffocation, or even electrocution. Absolutely horrifying to listen to

DO NOT me started! 🤬🖕

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Something tells me it mightve been the wifes plan

Going by what happened after it sounds like she knew what happened and they just couldn't find any solid evidence. Likely somebody hired to kill him, the recording sounds like the phone was in his pocket or on the floor nearby and he's being strangled. If anything this video shows you can't even trust those most close to you.

Hitchhiking at night or even in the day, as a female who also had children was a really, really bad decision. From my sources many of the missing girls/women in Canada were also hitchhiking before they vanished.

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This

He even kept her used tampons her toe nail clippings and wrote love songs about her you can find them on youtube

What???

the

I heard excerpts from his “diary” that he’d been keeping regularly, for years on end, and the entire thing was about nothing but Susan. The man was seriously disturbed. Poor Susan.

yes we know..

I must be deaf. I saw the subtitles but I didn’t hear it.

Time frame?

God that's horrifying 😢😢😢

@@m.t.696922:18

I believe there was an update to this story. I swear i heard that it was drugs and they finally found his body. I may be thinking of someone else

Trusting????? When "Good people," do nothing risk nothing are nothing

Yep...incredibly foolish of her....even for guys hitch hiking is dangerous but way more so for women....never never hitch hike if you are a women and especially if you are by yourself.....there are to many creeps out there.

Dangerous profession

@@danaparfitt2491 What?? Your sentence literally doesn't even make sense.

wow, way to victim blame....

Dad and uncle took they life maybe the dad of the dad actually did it they was all messed up in the head for they actions

Yes and was a total pervert and had loads of P*rn and CP on his computer

His whole family is a real piece of work

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Right😢

Sweetie I’m sure he adores you so much more than you know (I’m not being patronising I just talk like this sorry) I’d gladly die a horrible death for my wife like most husbands. Just think before you have children does he have mental issues if yes, don’t

@@pukeachudo you like teeth

@@pukeachu Okay you're obviously a troll lmao.

why do women marry and have kids with these people.

She should have left. Even if she had to sneak out at 2am.... Why be a sitting duck??? Weak...

It's obvious why, look into MMIW in Canada and the US.

RCMP tend to take the prominent & rich seriously and anyone colored or poor or addicted get little help

Unfortunately its very common for Canadian police to not take crimes against Indigenous women seriously

They don't have the resources to devote an entire team to every supposed missing person and they know from experience that most aren't missing from foul play and turn up on their own. This is just the way of the world.

Top be fair. Cops are only human too. What can they do that we can't?

@@alexander1902according to what? There’s normally always like 30-40 cops just sitting at the stations I can promise u it’s not empty

@@kylewade8704cops in my hometown go play basketball while on duty

Cops are, for the most part, useless

I still don't understand why he didn't just get the ride home

​@PatchesOhoulihan159 His so-called friends killed him.

Then then Kenny Veach one makes no sense because He says at 1st that it was out by Nellis Then the next when he goes back supposedly looking for it He says He’s out North of Las Vegas They contradict each other Nellis is East of Las Vegas North East but East out i15 North bound headed towards Salt Lake City Nellis is right by LVMS While then He says He’s out North Which is the other said of i15 North So each mountain range is in different directions I think He took his own 7!f3

@@kingdingaling2469 WHY ARE YOU CAPITALIZING "HE" STOP IT.

The groans and screams sounded like he was being stabbed or strangled

Henry and Brandon have disturbed me for years.

It kinda sounds like he’s been drugged and started tweaking it would make sense bc he was at a bar. But i can totally hear your assumption too but they say there was no marks of foul play. Tho they could’ve used a chainsaw to scare someone who’s already tripping on drugs and that stress alone could’ve killed Him. So many theories honestly it’s heartbreaking not having solid answers

@@Punk_in_pink yes exactly what I was thinking. Who knows what he went through that last night of his life

Susan's parents and siblings./her friends were begging the court not to let the boys see their father.

as someone who’s had to deal with court hearings for my son’s protection- they do not care for the children! they always argue that parental presence is important for the child from both parties and that’s is just absolutely absurd- if the parent is showing clear signs of not being in the presence of children why would you make them??

Cops do nothing about CP situations and pedos. They put people with drugs away longer than they put pedos away.

you wont do nothin. She ran off from her husband as usual to Mexico with a bbc

​​@@lizethontiveros3529a simple child development class could tell these judges that's not the case. Having both parents but one is abusive is worse than just having one parent.

That's what I thought too but how odd after all that there were no "obvious signs of foul play" on his body. It sounded like a stabbing but nothing....so creepy. May that man rest in peace.

​@@ericthiel4053its called a Delirium.

Yes!! To me it sounded like he was getting attacked by a chainsaw or some electric device

It’s so sad ! If I had heard that myself I would’ve ran out of my house looking for him not back to sleep🥺

As always

Isn't that because they have their own law enforcement

@@linnerellie209 no it’s usually handle by the RCMP

Especially in Edmonton, home of Robert Pickton

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I have to wonder if the man isn't in law enforcement or some public official.

Welcome to how cops treat Native Americans, in the USA.

@@redwoodrebelgirl3010 yea, but that was in canada

Believe me, they don't treat our Indigenous women any better in Canada!

Indigenous people don’t get treated right on OUR land.

I know right! It felt /sounded like not human!

Yeah, he was murdered by his African buddies. It explains why they made up that obvious nonsense about dropping him at the gas station and also explains why his wife had no urgency in trying to find him.

​@@halfbakedproductions7887They found his body and there was absolutely no sign of foul play or murder.

​@@ShrodingersHatI think he was murdered

You're damned right we did. He'd still have a pulse today, if he wasn't such an anodyne little twink

I looked more into this for Henry. And something does seem very off. Gaps in facts are what have me curious. Here is what is absolute: 1. Henry did party with friends 2. William did give Henry a ride after the party. 3. Although it was mistaken in his testimony, there was video of William's Vehicle dropping him off at a different gas station than was mentioned. 4. William had possession of Henry's keys and wallet. Claimed it was to prevent him from driving. 5. Henry's autopsy ascertains that he was drowned. 6. Rush Lake is 6 miles away from the gas station he had been dropped off at. 7. The voice mail was sent around 2:28 AM shortly after he was dropped off at the gas station. 8. Henry was found 2 months after his disappearance. 9. No signs of a struggle, nor foul play. The questions: 1. Was Henry's phone ever recovered? A lot of information can be gathered from it including gps tracking to indicate potential path from the gas station to the lake. 2. How did Henry get to Rush Lake being so far away? 3. Why did William have Henry's Wallet? While it would be speculation alone, it wouldn't be implausible that a group effort could be involved to which keeping his wallet would prevent ease of identification depending on how long it would take to locate Henry's body. 4. Was any information obtained from workers at the club? Specifically figuring how much he had to drink would lower the potential theories prior to what followed. 5. Why was he dropped off at the gas station? William's testimony shedding light on this is more information to work with. 6. Where exactly did Henry drown? Creates the end point to work backwards from.

Holy shit right before the dissapearance? Like right right before? (sorry for the language)

@@notgab1078 Yes. I saw her missing person report soon after the two times I was with her! No problem. It's not the worst word 😄

@@RachelParker-1977 Thanks, hope you guys are okay now though.

@@notgab1078 I am. Thanks. I didn't know her very well. I wish I had, since I may have been able to do more for her and the children. I hope the other ladies have healed emotionally.

@@RachelParker-1977stop bullshitting. it was 2008 u don’t remember that stop lying ur ass off for clout

San Angelo is a small city. It's my hometown, and the surrounding areas are pretty open country. Sure, there are wooded areas, but that's what's crazy to me is that something like this happened to a place I look at fondly. Scary stuff.

The Kenny Veach one makes no sense because He says at 1st that it was out by Nellis Then the next when he goes back supposedly looking for it He says He’s out North of Las Vegas They contradict each other Nellis is East of Las Vegas North East but East out i15 North bound headed towards Salt Lake City Nellis is right by LVMS While then He says He’s out North Which is the other said of i15 North So each mountain range is in different directions I think He took his own 7!f3

Brandon was high on meth an it was why he was acting so strange.

No one knows if there was anyone there besides him. All we know was he was scared of something. Meth causes psychosis

He obviously wasn’t actually being chased. Most likely he was having a psychotic episode. Why else would he call his brother to say threat he was bleeding and that he could see him and the cop. Still very scary and strange that they didn’t find any sign of him at all though.

Imagine her parents having to live the rest of their lives knowing what happened to their grandkids and what was possibly done to their daughter and worse never knowing. They're being traumatized daily bye it. They are also victims.

Yeah, I'm about sick of the "blank needs help" excuse

I haven't seen a single comment here saying Josh was also a victim, but sure, go on.

@@dsrree I love when people make up a statement that nobody agrees with so they can argue against it.

no one forced her to sleep with a psycopath

Dude is being murdered. It’s horrible.

First time I heard that audio, it scared me so bad I didn’t sleep for two days

I read up on it and it said there's no evidence of murder and noone else was with him at the time

@@beckyf2845 true but something happened. Psychotic break maybe? Or he could have fallen and sprained his leg then drowned, we won’t know.

Sounds like he getting murdered 💀

Yes, absolutely! MMIP is an epidemic in both countries. Little to nothing is done by law enforcement. Meanwhile, the family, friends, and loved ones are fighting to keep their voices alive. Hopefully it changes soon!

​@@janessaganuelas4323 It won't change until the politicians talk about it, and even then it'll never change because native American women are looked at as some sort of prize or commodity. It's this world that we live in but God will smite this world one day and Jesus will destroy the wicked ones and bring back a better age.

Canadian government is busy importing Khalistani Sikh terrorists from India right now, call back later with your concerns.

law enforcement is involved...so are letter agencies.....

@@dennisward4855Freemasons

Police believed that as soon as the call was ended, Amber’s life was taken. Maybe her death was recorded on that call. Either way, I believe the officers tasked with handling the case should be charged with negligence

If her death was recorded on the call why would the police have refused to investigate? Even going as far as telling her mom that she was probably just partying. That just doesn’t make sense.

​@@decimanightelf4135The police are not good anywhere. Natives are not treated well anywhere so of course they wouldn't treat her case well

@@decimanightelf4135 Racisism is a bitch. That's a big suspicion for lack of care on the police's side.

​@decimanightelf4135 the RCMP have a track record for not taking MMIW cases seriously here. If you are native, you can't trust the cops. They won't look for you, or they will even be involved (Starlight Tours)

Strangled it sounds like

Happened here in Edmonton, So sad 😢

It was even worse than this video told, Josh hacked his two sons with a hatchet before setting the house ablaze.

the guy was demon possessed 100 percent... Christ is king

@@Masher8559 omg are you serious?

@@myraclayton1860 Sadly yes, you can watch the documentary about it right here on KZfaq.

I think it sounds more like he's being drowned and am even more convinced when it said his body was found near water and because of the length of time it took to find the body they wouldn't have been able to tell if he drowned.

He was being beheaded.

​@@m.t.6969 god.... 😳😳😳😖

​@@m.t.6969no no evidence of that

​@@m.t.6969 I was thinking the exact same thing.

Probably a freemason

Alcohol doesn’t normally do that. But not everyone is normal, if he had pre existing issues alcohol psycosis on its own is possible. But it definetly sounds more like a deliriant, some nasty drug like PCP.

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@@ferrisbueller9991 never drink something someone else gives you. Drink spiking cases have gone through the roof and shows no signs of stopping.

​@@knighthawk6554 or abducted by Aliens.

they obviously killed that dude lmao. they literally sent in a letter talking about burying the body?

Also no bs "paranormal horror" stuff

I forgot why they are targeted but it’s definitely cause they are indigenous no coincidence there

The reason is because most crimes against indigenous women are committed by indigenous men, and these tribes operate more like cults. You don't snitch and you don't speak out against anyone from your own tribe. The media just runs with the headline that will get the most attention.

i was hoping to find a comment talking about this- it’s genuinely so infuriating. america is shrinking indigenous lands every single year and making reserve life more and more unlivable- it’s not surprising canada has this mentality towards native folks too. absolutely vile. they deserve so much better

Interesting fact: Significantly more Indg men go missing than women.

unfortunetly true :(

Josh’s father actually died in 2018 or 2019. You’re correct that he should be included in the story because what he did was disgusting.

@@stacyhernandez7338 Oh I didn't hear about that. Hope he rots. Thanks for the uplifting news.

Not sure if he died in prison,but they found child porn when they investigated the father and he was convicted of that.

Josh blew his self up along with his two boys. The one request that woman asked for and it went unheard.

@@Syphonfllter I think your misunderstanding what he's saying. Susan's letter said "if anything happens to me take care of my boys" that was all she requested,but he was able to harm them. Read it again.

Shame that he doesn't get some "street" justice isnt it?

Who is he?

Why don't people get him then

Post his name

Is the police the RCMP by any chance?

⁠@@BOB-fd4luJosh is nothing now. He WAS a family nihilist. He chopped his children to pieces after he murdered his wife. That’s the opposite of what a good guy does to his family.

It is disgusting and thy allowed that man to see those kids after all of that. Insane

true L dude

​@@NunoFilipe99Are you victim blaming or am I misunderstanding your reply?

@@SergioB25 I am not putting the blame on the victim, she is the victim. Sorry, but if you didn't understand my comment, you are still not there yet...

incel

@@NunoFilipe99Found the incel

And then goes back to sleep

I can think of 2 females who did a similar thing in Idaho…..

I’m guessing millions 😢

@@Weaponized_Mind yeah and not all of them are lucky to submit their stories to mr nightmare or chilling scares

And the many who aren't getting attention from the local authorities.

Or pick up a stranger. Avoid both.

@@PhilipMarcYT uber and lift is a thing dude people do that stuff for a living day night or early in the morning too so alot of people have no choice but to pick up random strangers ya know

​@@jeianalottie those are services where drivers are screened, supply ID, and their movements are tracked.

It's probably not quite what you think. Addicts do that to get picked up to make money for drugs.

​@RedneckWarlock also you have to pay lol that deters it enough I feel like lmfao

There have been cases of missing of indigenous females in Canada and the police being like this. I think Police are involved in this like many 3rd class or developing or developed countries

Yeah it's just cuz she was Native. Happens all the time.

I really hate that it's likely there were less resources put into the case because the victim was of a certain ethnic heritage but I live near the Mexican border & the police around here can be pretty dismissive of cases involving women from Mexico, even if something happens to them on the American side. It's really depressing how much the value of human life can change like that.

Yep. And the RCMP is terrible, period. I had always thought they were a version of the FBI, but that is not so. Under funded, terribly under trained, extremely political. It is awful. Look into the Nova Scotia mass shooting 2020. They bungled it badly and are still doing shady things around it. The bungling cost two police officers their lives as well, because they were not properly informed about what was happening.

@@ashleybrooke2087 She broke a rule we all get taught since we are young: hitchhiking is dangerous and never join a strangers car. She got killed by her own stupidity. Maybe the police don't want to arrest a guy who just took his chance and got offered a free victim to kill

on behalf of all male people, i think it's safe to say that Jason dude is pretty rare. but honestly. i think that's why people should always live together awhile before marrying. but even before that obviously date and see how you feel about them first. i don't think you should get married "just cuz." but if there was a decent guy out there willing to give you a life of devoted companionship, and you shunned / dismissed him because of a YT video, then i'd be sad for you.

Was killed, capture or took his own life.

His family thinks he unalived himself, as he expressed wanting to do this before.

@@sillikitti I think it’s pretty obvious what happened. People want to make this sometime sinister because it feeds their need for morbid entertainment.

@@sillikitti “it’s obvious but still a mystery” Dude, you want so desperately to just have the last word lol so sure. Have it. You sound silly

@@sillikitti wht the sigma

I was thinking he was either being suffocated or drowned but I don’t knowwww

He sounds like, he knows, he's going to *ie

It sounded like he was being tortured... 💔

Yeah that one stuck with me , very disturbing and upsetting

It clearly sounds like he was being drowned if you listen closely

@u.sonomabeach6528 I think the key there is relapse and the cashed out 401k. if he was back into meth and bought from 'the local Mexicans' he might have decided to purchase a large amount and go into the retail business, not something that local gang members appreciate and they will respond by killing their rivals. It may have also been that he met with them that night to make a large purchase and they killed him, stealing his money as many drug dealers are also opportunistic thieves with no qualms at cheating if that person is perceived as vulnerable.

yeah , like there was a dog also suffering there with him , they were both dying

@@sarafahmawi5143Doesn’t sound like a dog suffering. Sounds like an animal is killing Henry.

@@FallenAngel9979 yesss

The person strangling Henry is grunting

Meanwhile a white guy is presumed missing at the last story after a few hours of looking for him and a cops search party, k9 unit and helicopter is called out straight away...

Great excuse.

@@brucej.willson4764 Spent 3 years on the Blackfeet Res and now down beside the Crow and Northern Cheyenne. Saw the same w/BF missing and media about same here. Young NC (if memory serves) couple last year vanished after returning from a wedding event or something. An uncle or family member found them with their own search; had wrecked not far off road. Poor girl didn't make it but boy rescued in time. Sense was they weren't getting much help. Goes both ways, too. Dicks everywhere but overall respect all Tribes but last year I broke down in Lame Deer (tire blew JUST in only spot of civilization though!) at 103 degrees. Spare jammed on stupid hoist; one bolt cutter chop would free it. Cop shop nearby with 2-3 empty patrol cars running A/C and could not get anybody to help me; wouldn't even open their damn door but just blew me off via intercom. Other NC helped and saved me. BIG stupid "feuds"? Control issues etc between tribal cops and others. Everywhere. I swear they let that get in the way of their jobs. Not reflective of all deputies or departments but still "a thing."

The RCMP is a notoriously incompetent organization all around. I would write their failure in Amber's case off as that and nothing more if it weren't for their very well documented treatment of specifically Indigenous Canadians. They need to clean house and renovate the entire damn force from the ground up.

@@somewherewest2556the RCMP are a bunch of psychopath Freemasons

Because if they don't maintain composure, the callers will clearly get more distressed, which will make things worse. It's patently obvious.

It was music to my ears

@drillmessiah6558 well that's concerning

@@drillmessiah6558 CIA FBI US police watch list required, please.

@@drillmessiah6558you’re so edgy!

​@@drillmessiah6558so sigma

You can listen to her 911 call she placed right after Josh shoved her out of the house and locked the door.

She probably will deal with lifelong ptsd.

She is feeling like a strong woman don't worry

She probably thought she was just doing her job. On to the next case.

May karma find the judge who allowed visitation and show him NO mercy. That Pierce County (WA) judge facilitated murder. Period!! There's a reason the state had to pay the grandparents millions. That POS judge got away scott free tho.

Is this the same case where his dad was videotaping her secretly and would talk about how obsessed with her he was?

@@hyacinthmoon6289no way... it's that real??? this is one of the craziest stories I've ever heard of.

@@hyacinthmoon6289 Yes, it is. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the omission of this detail.

@hyacinthmoon6289 yeah, the exact same

@@inspirefolie wow!! I agree with you guys, very VERY strange he didn’t mention the dad’s involvement in all of this.

Well, he didn't get away with it. He wasn't arrested, sure. But he's dead...so...(makes scales gesture with hands) I mean....🥴

*he would giggle a bit then go back to eating the carcass of a dead raccoon.*

He didn’t get away with it. He’s burning in hell now!

​@@Thedelisiacamillehell is Fake whoever made this earth is a psycopath thats why it does nothing.

Now ĥe has to answer to GOD

But why is this happening? Sounds to me like a well organised operation involving lots of people