I'd rather be born into the royal family. Women from poor families often get sold into prostitution.

I'd rather be King lolll

I would rather be born into wealthy family over being born into royalty.

Then you wouldnt have to suffer foot binding even though this was thought to be a tradition of beauty.

A psychic told me I had 6 lives here on Earth, so I asked about them. She said that I was a King, a Queen and a peasant I forgot the others. She said that I look at my arms and hands (something like that) that I know I should have a lot of jewelry on. My best life was the peasant life!

no a caged birds in a diamond and gold cage. sure it might be nice to look at but for the bird it’s torture

No I don't think so. If an empress has a strong family backing her and she played her cards well and got herself involved in court then she would have a comfortable life though involved in a lot of schemes she would live to become very powerful even more than the emperor. She would become an empress dowager. And the description you used was for the concubines.

Same thoughts 🤔🥲

So far that's 3 that I know of! That's really crazy.

It is beyond this. At this time, when king died, their servants and whole bunch of people they want bury alive with him. This to make sure he is well served in the after life

@@annat6249 well yes that was a common practice. But we r saying that in life, the ula nara empresses lived tragic and stressful lives. Edit:sorry for the typos.

i agree lol

Yeah damn that clan has a curse or something😅

The Ula Nara women must've been too good, their competition had to get rid of them.

Their family must be really something though - to be able to produce 3 empress. I guess the last one got tired of it. She's probably happier knowing her children will not be use in the power game.

Having to produce 3 empresses under their belt, others will definitely want to get rid of them obviously. They are a powerful and influential clan that's probably why a lot of people was envious of them.

@@pinkychoo9558 Three Empresses (four, if we include Hong Taiji's second primary wife and if Qianlong's wife is considered from Ula-Nara instead of Hoifa-Nara) it's not that great, especially when it never produced an Emperor, but Dorgon, and one of their Empresses is the only one in the history of the Qing Dynasty who didn't receive a posthumous title. No important government officials, no other imperial consort, a single secondary wife and two Princes Consort. Literally nothing special. The Yehe Nara had one Empress and two Empresses Mother. They also gave five imperial consorts, ten Princesses Consort (+ one secondary wife and four concubines) and six Princes Consort. The Tunggiya and the Khorchin Borjigit clans had three Empresses and an Empress Mother each. The Mongols also gave seven imperial consorts, nine Princesses Consort and 23 Princes Consort. The most impressive is the Niohuru, which had six Empresses, one of whom was also one of the two Empresses Mother from the clan, seven imperial consorts (one of whom was an Imperial Noble Consort), eight Princesses Consort (+ one secondary wife and a concubine), five Princes Consort and a big number of important officials.

Thank you so much. I will look into her great story

story of Chinese peranakkan

Doing such story would be very difficult. Because based on china history, no record of china emperor sent his princess to get married to sultan mansur. The identity of princess hang li poh itself is a mystery. Ming dynasty has their own rule of no letting princess to get marry to another country for politik purpose. Thus, possibility of hang li poh a princess of ming dynasty is close to 0.

@@dalohable In Qing Dynasty they adopted officials' daughters as princess and then marry them to other countries. Idk if this also happens in Ming dynasty. But if it does then maybe the princess was just an official's daughter.

From the meticulous Chinese historical records, there is no such person called Hang Li Po. The imperial surname of Ming dynasty was Zhu. Even if hang li po was a title, no title was found. Moreover, since Sung dynasty, chinese Emperor did not engage in heqin/marriage alliance. Moreover, the previous heqin marriage alliance was between equalled or favoured monarchs of neighbouring countries. At the time of Ming dynasty, Malacca was a tributary vassal state submissive to Ming empire. Totally out of league. Moreover, Imperial China never allowed women to travel out of their hometown, travelling oversea was out question. On top of that, an average Han family during Ming dynasty would not allow the marriage of their daughter a class lower than them, at that time, Malacca was considered barbarian in Ming dynasty. Totally out of league. Hence, the whole hang li po is a modern fabrication to boost malay supremacy.

I watched Kosem from episode 1 to 17 and the remaining episodes were much so I decided to read the history on google and how it all ended. Empires and politics those days are no child's play and dangerous. If I was born during those era , I wouldn't envy them.

Also, most of those Turkish Sultanas were former slave girls who were snatched from their families and sold into the Harem.

I watched both magnificent century and magnificent century kosem....yes for us it may seem that the concubines are using their sons as pawn but it's a struggle for survival

What is the drama namee?

@@samihasohana8889 Rule the World bit it kind of sucked

Even now they suck in some countries

I agree with youuu 💕💕💕💕

And terrifying

In that drama, I believe in that drama, the empress dowager gave her the option to kill herself in those manner as a kind of mercy. Rather that being buried alive which would take days or maybe even weeks of suffering before succumbing to death.

@@sadeevans1969 no it didn't really matter but he did it to "safe" her cause apparently the empress's clan had less power then of the dowager and prime minister regents and etc. anyway the emperor's last title should be obeyed

Who cares how they died, they still ended up dead.

@@hudajama5822 o

their was drama on it maybe that why they choose to cover it

No

Good

still better than what current days leaders do

She had 3

promise of chang an is based on the 2003 drama xiaozhuang mishi which is literally this story told from the eyes of empress xiaozhuang who was hong taiji's wife and dorgon's lover

I guess finding a woman was not hard for them, after all, women were like an accessory for them

Most likely the "rumor" was a lie

Having an affair isn't wrong when the husband is having 50 to 60 wives. Can we even call it an affair?;

@@namratagogoi2763 Women's Rights back then aren't exactly as good compare now

@@ultravioletgaia I know but the original comment called the affair unethical so I simply pointed out that it can't be unethical since the husband is not committed to the relationship. My point of view :)

hello? wrong dynasty and wrong era altogether... please know basic Chinese history before making such wide sweep idiotic comments

It wasn't a human sacrifice. Her step-sons just wanted her out of the way. She was also the mother of Dorgon.

No

Yeah it was very common in ancient China. They had the Empress, whole harem, and close servants buried. I think the most brutal was the Khitan Emperors from Liao Dynasty.

This one was killed because her step-sons wanted her out of the way.

i'm not sure which dynasties it applies to but imperial harem women that had had children get to stay in the harem (their titles become "previous rank + dowager") and the rest had to go to a temple as nuns

I thought that the entire burial thing started with the Ming Dynasty and was abolished during Qing dynasty tho. I may not be right though.

same 💀

She was given a choice. Suicide was better than being buried alive

@@eileenmcdonald1599 Yeah so she... wasnt. Not a hard choice.

actually is how they call it you can see it in many dramas these days and historical documents

@@IGUniverse They call a dish "thousand year egg" but it doesn't make it a thousand years old. Fact- only 4/5 weeks fermented.

@@charlottemunday7311 yes is like other thing only a expression that sounds good

Strangled with an appropriately coloured silk scarf.

probably the pensiom offered by the British came with a price ie become their puppet... would you accept? You know how the Hawaiian princess died in UK right? They poisoned her and now her Tragic story is made into a romantic Disney cartoon movie

Yap her voice is killing me...I need to mute her

Sadly this happens regardless of whether she's from a political family. The emperor is forced to choose between power and beauty.

There's a really good TV drama called Xiaozhuang Epic. The story is told from the perspective of Xiaozhuang, who is the wife of Emperor Huang Taiji, Lover of Dorgon and Mother of Emperor Shunzhi.

Rule The World from 2017

I think the promise of chang’an was a bit based on this story

There are many.

@@Anelta_Rant It's not. Different ethnicity, culture, and dynasty.

Not the same situations at all

I thought they were Jurchen??

@@aygulmemet4201 Juerchen is one of Manchu big family or surnane.

Yellow Emperor: I love you, my grandchildren

What the hack are you babbling about