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@No-mq5lw4 жыл бұрын
5.8 version: 20 rounds 9mm version: 15 rounds R6S version: 10 rounds. Take it or leave it
@mmercier09214 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford said you can get a model T in any color, as long as it is black.
@_____Z_____3 жыл бұрын
Take it!
@Tyler-uc4ye3 жыл бұрын
@@mmercier0921 Its the only color you will ever need.
@leontam2212 жыл бұрын
But is has 60damage per shot
@andystegall74072 жыл бұрын
Those damn Canadians don't seem to understand handguns can have magazines in excess or 10 rounds
@pogmothonable6 жыл бұрын
we need a "whats that forgotten weapon?" segment at the end of the video like the old pokemon cartoon :)
@thegoldencaulk27426 жыл бұрын
I love this idea, as corny as it'd be
@meareweird77146 жыл бұрын
HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@sooprcoomr48286 жыл бұрын
Oh, you're funny.
@someguynamedmatt29076 жыл бұрын
I imagine it going something like this, *Whats that forgotten weapon?!* "IT'S AN M1911!!!" *Its a STAR Model M!* "FUCK!"
@Erreul6 жыл бұрын
Its... KRAG-JORGENSEN
@kilroywuzhere16 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is a CF 98 is the form the Canadian military uses for injurys on the job...haha
@Lockbar6 жыл бұрын
Now, that is funny.......
@louisbeerreviews89645 жыл бұрын
max no is Chinese gun
@thunderring80564 жыл бұрын
He's not saying it's Canadian...it's the name for an injury form
@weirdscience83414 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bmassche4 жыл бұрын
Haha I knew it rang a bell. Lol
@leoli24505 жыл бұрын
when you realize that this thing is more delibrately engineered than the sevice rifle.
@littlebigheroman4 жыл бұрын
Best to give the commisar the most reliable weapon, and the horde the second most.
@littlebigheroman4 жыл бұрын
@@arthurmead5341 are you saying he has a needle pic?
@adrienamp19804 жыл бұрын
Heinz Linge I mean to be honest looks better than yours
@donovanburkhard4 жыл бұрын
They think bulpup is god for some reason
@warellis4 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Caughey Where did you learn that about their rations? Because that sounds interesting.
@SgtKOnyx6 жыл бұрын
Anonymous collector is such a nice person.
@alexm5663 жыл бұрын
4chan needs to look into him, I heard he's such a good hacker
@Oblithian3 жыл бұрын
right!?
@Fuddleton6 жыл бұрын
That style of trigger pack disassembly reminds me of the Tokarev TT pistol. It really is a nice solution, because any problems with the trigger pack can be fixed with a new complete assembly, very handy for armorers. From a mechanical design perspective, I'd call it pretty well done for a military service pistol.
@ArrowSmith956 жыл бұрын
in the Canadian armed forces a CF98 is an injury report form....
@cosmolinefiend98534 жыл бұрын
ArrowSmith95 if this is true that’s hilarious
@donnykim90684 жыл бұрын
Cosmoline Fiend its true i had to fill one out for messing up my shoulder at basic
@littlebigheroman4 жыл бұрын
@@donnykim9068 I can imagine what the "CF" stands for...lol
@pmp13374 жыл бұрын
@@littlebigheroman Canadian Form?
@littlebigheroman4 жыл бұрын
@@pmp1337 Try "Cluster Fuck"
@ECESW4 жыл бұрын
"They are available up in Canada" seems to be a commonly heard phrase on this channel.
@bigmountain84944 жыл бұрын
I just bought one in Canada, made it seems for Canadians: two 10 round magazines WITHOUT the large cutouts of the 15 round mags! They have small holes at 5 and 10 rounds count. Magazines are serialized with the gun serial 3 and dash1 and dash 2. I had to buy an Uzzi reloader for them. Ian did not notice the feed ramp exists, but it is on the steel insert and is large enough to take rounds from right or left, then directs them into the barrel.
@agarthangamer4 жыл бұрын
Not anymore
@thelieutenant77324 жыл бұрын
I mean for Chinese firearms yeah, Norinco is banned in the US for doing shady things. But with the recent "assault weapons" ban, even some of those Chinese guns are no longer allowed in Canada
@adamg5742 жыл бұрын
@@agarthangamer they are back in stock and on sale for $270 right now. Thinking about picking one up to pair with my type 81 and type 97.
@colombianguy81942 жыл бұрын
@@adamg574 interesting, it is hard to have a handgun permit in Canada? I know that concealed carry is prohibited, well... I guess that is understandable being Canada a safe country, greetings from Colombia and our crappy gun laws.
@someguy54443 жыл бұрын
Honestly that’s a really good design and if using better materials and higher precision machining this could be loaded for extremely high pressure loads. They could make a modern high capacity magnum with this design.
@happyface42343 жыл бұрын
I heard they can run+p
@John-mf6ky8 ай бұрын
The design is actually really cool imo. Seems like this design could potentially be just as modular as the M17/18
@kksan6 жыл бұрын
This gun had long history of inconsistent quality control and issue with the double fed magazine. Some police force in China actually use imported glock 17 gen 4 instead of this.
@inouelenhatduy6 жыл бұрын
why not copy it , way cheaper then buying shitload of glock from germany
@kksan6 жыл бұрын
The inconsistent quality control is caused by not having enough competition due to that most of the firearm manufacturers are owned and run by the government, and we all know what shenanigans can be made from bureaucracy. Therefore, simply copying the existing proven designs do not guarantee a good outcome eventually (take NP22/P226 copy for example).
@taskforcekarma69456 жыл бұрын
Norinco makes a Gen 4 Glock copy made in good ole China.
@kksan6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, didn't know that before, thanks for the info.
@xevo56886 жыл бұрын
The Chinese police force never use foreign guns, where did you heard that from?
@AtlasJotun2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview, Ian! Those trigger pulls looked a little rough, I'll bet it's a split between the military not being concerned about a handgun's trigger quality, plus some imprecise fitment due to the modular nature of the FCG. That's a slick and unexpectedly modular system on a military wonder-9, I kind of love it. Double-feed mags are just icing on the cake, and Ian called it: that star was the first thing to catch my eye after taking in the gun's general profile. Then he said one of the magic words for com-bloc nerds: Norinco. 'Ooo, an unobtainum Norinco handgun? I clearly need that.'
@ywang926 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the contribution you ve done for the firearms enthusiast community. Awesome!
@sly1on16 жыл бұрын
Norinco is hit and miss; sometimes you can get an awesome firearm. and other times you get "boat anchors". But for the cheap price one pays for a Norinco product, they are a firearm!
@shawnr7716 жыл бұрын
Simon Korneffel Just buy 10 of them because they may end up being single shot single use firearms.
@ironraccoon35364 жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 Be Captain Importbeard and have six of them on a bandolier.
@shawnr7714 жыл бұрын
@@ironraccoon3536 Dang skippy. and 4 more in the truck.
@chapiit084 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right about that, but most of the problems arise from parts not being properly finished something that might be alleviated after some break in period during which some owners get disappointed with the gun and get rid of it or ruin it during kitchen table gunsmithing operations. I've come across several Norinco rifles and handguns most in .22LR that were hopeless cases but after careful examination and some polishing done here and there ended up functioning perfectly. But of course unless they address those problems they will keep on losing market status.
@sly1on14 жыл бұрын
I have a couple Norinco's; I have found to make them better is to replace the parts that are important with actual parts from the firearm they are cloning. Example the NP22 I replaced some of the parts with Sig P226 to make the firearm a lot better. I've spent less then $100 US to tweek the NP22. And its great now!
@exploatores6 жыл бұрын
one thing I have learned from beinga a subscriber to forgoten weapon is that things that are rare, are rare for a reason. their are a lot of strange guns out their.
@fenrilsciurus26026 жыл бұрын
I've been watching you for a while now and you remind me of my nephew. I always enjoy visiting him and his arsenal. You are a fantastic teacher type person and you are very easy to listen to. It's great to have someone yakkin' about old guns that is non-abrasive and genuine. Don't go anywhere, Ian.
@Mrgunsngear6 жыл бұрын
great info as always
@GuilePatrick3 жыл бұрын
Considered shooting the CF 98 for a review ?
@zidan1hao9176 жыл бұрын
also point out one thing. some armed police units in the west-north China(troubled by isis sort rebel) has got round 400 of glock17gen4 as their need for a reliable pistol for gunfight. a lot of good cop died or suffered injury because of their type 92 dis functioned. the simply avoidable casualty get the cops protesting about their handgun and Glocks came. Some SWAT unit from rich province also get some Glock to play with.
@zidan1hao9176 жыл бұрын
yeah the text is a bit mixture, but it's all true good words
@JoshuaFrankee5 жыл бұрын
只有广东特警有。
@larrylee26375 жыл бұрын
They still use the 54s. Hk uses glocks.
@aunnaqvi31335 жыл бұрын
Xinjiang- Uighur I presume?
@matthewmitcham19994 жыл бұрын
There are no good cops in China.
@kyrozudesoya18296 жыл бұрын
I have a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact and I will say that one thing about the rotating barrel is that it makes the gun very pleasant to shoot recoil-wise. The recoil on the compact is milder than my full-size SR9.
@randynovick79726 жыл бұрын
I have the same experience. The PX4 storm is a very comfortable shooting duty pistol, in my opinion, because the turning barrel helps absorb recoil, similar to the MAB PA-15. Ian never mentions this, though.
@Randystudio2173 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how the 5.8x21 models compare: the Chinese have a habit of producing lower quality products when they’re destined for export
@TheNinjaDC3 жыл бұрын
No, that's Russian arms you are thinking about. China is just straight up lower quality.
@BB-uu9oo2 жыл бұрын
@@TheNinjaDC made in China usually means "cheap junk", but there's a reason Norinco Mak 90 and Polytechs fetch cost nearly as much as a Russian SGL. There's plenty of other AK's we'll never see imported again that won't fetch that price. With that said, aside from surplus SKS's and AKm's I'd stay away from their guns without due diligence. Now to just ignorantly claim any nations guns suck without any reasoning tells me your only experience with Chinese firearms is off dead enemies playing videogames.
@zhuravl-m22852 жыл бұрын
@@Huy-G-Le This is true. They straight up don't even try with the QBZ-97. The army shortly switched over to QBZ-95-1 with a host of improvements, but export versions never got them.
@zhuravl-m22852 жыл бұрын
@@BB-uu9oo Exactly. Polytech Type 81s are amazing in my experience, and they arent that expensive either. But if you buy a
@jumpvelocity3953 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNinjaDCif you set aside your blind prejudice against the enemy and actually think about why Chinese products suck, it’s because of their cheap labour and lack of quality control in order to gain a monopoly in the export market. However, do you think they will do the same for their own armed forces’ firearms? If you’d ask me, I’d say that idea wouldn’t pass through anybody in the chain of command.
@CPalanysamy6 жыл бұрын
I´d love to see a slo mo test with this one but I guess is not possible. Great video as always, Ian!
@torbai6 жыл бұрын
Happy Chinese New Year, Ian! What a coincidence that you have made a video about a Chinese firearm during Chinese New Year.
@jamessutton34614 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we get the Norinco products up here. They're dirt cheap, and they work... usually. Flaws are usually minor enough to be corrected with metalworking tools.
@shawnc19366 жыл бұрын
This is actually my favorite pistol I own. Thanks for the video.
@thomasdong38823 жыл бұрын
I really like this pistol to
@Shit_Shooter4 жыл бұрын
Feedback should you want any: I really appreciate the caliber comparison you put on screen, helpful for want-to-be [myself] or less experienced enthusiasts.
@UXB10004 жыл бұрын
Even more so if the calibre is as obscure as the 5.8x21mm.
@skyhop6 жыл бұрын
That cartridge seems interesting, the 5.8x21mm. That's actually the first I've heard of it.
@rogerh.57924 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine yep, in recent years the Chinese police is using more and more foreign weapon like glock17 and p226, but recently there's a Chinese company come up with a pistol called px18, it seems that px18 is a hybrid of Glock and qsz92 design and was rumored to perform same as western service pistol.
@UltimateRareAncientGearGolem6 жыл бұрын
Ian, I haven't seen any videos of a Ruger P series on you channel yet, and I really think it would be a cool gun to review, and while they aren't really forgotten in gun culture, most people who aren't big gun people haven't heard of them.
@monyraingseysthong26876 жыл бұрын
I own a QSZ-9 chamber in 9mm, typically the military version of this firearms. Shoots great and never have any malfunction. The trigger is a bit mushy but that is ok for me. Anyway, great review :)
@zsombokiorinc Жыл бұрын
surprisingly neat design
@calvingreene902 жыл бұрын
When the magazine feed is the pistols best feature.
@nehalchishti9814 Жыл бұрын
Norinco firearms are hit or miss but it'd be very cool to see a reliable manufacturer making this.
@MoldyStir-Fry Жыл бұрын
Ah, elegance and intrigue found within total ordinarity. My kind of pistol!
@kenhelmers26036 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the CF-98 with us!
@thepenultimateninja57973 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why pistols don't use the double feed magazine system. I guess at least one of them does. Strange that it is not more common, especially given how wide slides tend to be nowadays.
@texassabre72147 ай бұрын
Need wider slide
@fengfrank50734 жыл бұрын
The reason why they uses rotating barrel is due to the requirement of sound suppressor. Browning short barrel stroke system require the barrel tilt upward, a heavy suppressor will change the delay and action characteristics. The rotating action will avoid most of them, hence became the action of this pistol. The Type 98 is reliable, both 5.8 and 9 version. However, only when you uses standard military standard 9mm round, no HP no flat tip at all. The feeding slop is designed only for standard military round.
This is quite different and very interesting. Thanks!
@PRACERZ6 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS great vids!!!
@John.VanSwearingen6 жыл бұрын
It's like they tried to make a less elegant Ruger P89, if that was even possible.
@five51056 жыл бұрын
John Van Swearingen Shh... It might hear you... It's a bit sensitive.
@costantinoandruzzi22196 жыл бұрын
With some hints at the Beretta 82/84/86 models as well.
@on2wheels3786 жыл бұрын
A Ruger P89 is elegant?
@Leslie486 жыл бұрын
"That's the joke" /meme
@trevillyan55156 жыл бұрын
They may not be elegant, but they're built like a brick shithouse
@jamesburk25444 жыл бұрын
The French MAB PA-15 also has a rotating lock. Besides accuracy, I think it also adds to reliability. Since the locking system works in the opposite direct to the rifling, the bullet in the barrel keeps it closed and is, in a way, self-adjusting, as the stronger load will hold the action closed longer while a lighter load will release it more quickly. I've never had a jam with my MAB and it's accuracy is greater than my ability as a shooter.
@MrGible6 жыл бұрын
This is pretty neat, I'd like to see the MP433 Grach.
@adonoghuea026 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see someone like Hudson experiment with a rotating barrel to lower bore offset beyond even what they have managed with a tilting bolt.
@peelreg2 жыл бұрын
Just bought one. Here in Canada they sell for $270 CDN (about $200 US) At that price, why not? I have other Norinco pistols, shotguns and rifles. They work well.
@ja29312 жыл бұрын
5 months later is the pistol still in good shape?
@peelreg2 жыл бұрын
@@ja2931 So far, so good. Very nice trigger. 100% reliable. Cheap.
@davidbayne28452 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great exposition video. The frame mounted safety decocker is very desirable. The steel subframe makes for easy maintenance. The bushing is good for practical accuracy and the rotating barrel with dual recoil springs should allow a pleasing recoil impulse. The DA/SA trigger is long and hard like most duty pistols. Your last reference to it not competing with Glock made me chuckle because Glock is beta testing a very similar rotating barrel design with the Germany Police. LOL
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum49066 жыл бұрын
I shot the Type 92G in China last year, along with full auto milled Type 56, Type79SMG, Type 81 and Type 95-1. The newer Type 92G is based on the export version of the 92, which uses 9x19 Luger, added standard accessories rail. It's an okay gun, for the price it's pretty good 😂 but, because gun ownership is banned in China, so there aren't really any competitions going on, and soldiers and police officers don't know what's good or what's bad. They only know how to effectively use the weapon they were issued with. The feeding problem gets worse in 5.8mm version, which only issued to officers as a symbol of command. Type 92 is starting to retire from a lot of police departments. The border anti-terrorist unit switched to Glock 19/17, the regular PDs started to make a switch to NP22 (Sig P226 clone) and China's own 9mm revolver ( rimed 9mm case, oddly shoots like a .22lr ). And since most soldiers never use their pistol, the Army isn't too concerned about the quality 😂 Unlike the US, all firearm design and manufacturing are owned by the government, so the trail for new pistol is just a bunch of internal bureaucracy. China has the ability to make good products, the new Oppo and Huawei phone, the supercomputer and the missile. But because of this internal bureaucracy, there aren't any quality control with firearms.
@user-ve8ry1xw8v6 жыл бұрын
A 9mm revolver?
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum49065 жыл бұрын
123 456 yeah, China has a what they call 9mm Police revolver. The case length is somewhere between a 357 mag and regular 9mm. But it's rimed, and there is no recoil for some reason lol also, for a DA/SA revolver, it has manual safety
@user-ve8ry1xw8v5 жыл бұрын
@@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 I feel like it's outdated to other pistols.
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum49065 жыл бұрын
123 456 yes, it is outdated 😂 honestly, most firearms that the Chinese have are outdated.
@user-ve8ry1xw8v5 жыл бұрын
@@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 actually yeah alot of them seem to be either old or cheaply made compared to other countries.
@outko246 жыл бұрын
These are plentiful in Canada, not very popular although they are pretty cheap.
@deitz68546 жыл бұрын
It’s far from forgotten, but you should take a look at the p320/xm17, and discuss what set it apart from the other pistols in the xm17 pistol competition.
@burnyburnoutze2nd6 жыл бұрын
These pistols are quite common for civilian sale here in Canada.
@washingtoncommandcenter5541 Жыл бұрын
rotating barrel, modern and available in 7.62 TOK, I want it...
@chinesesparrows6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a really nice design, wonder how they are in everyday use.
@bulletheed19706 жыл бұрын
The reason for a hole in the guide rod is to help strip the pistol down more easier . You pull the slide back put a screw driver thin enough to fit the hole release the slide and the take the slide release catch out.
@bijoyeshghosh55094 жыл бұрын
QSW-06 needs to be added on the list of Forgotten weapons. That's a rather unique gun in a cool caliber.
@blamb424 жыл бұрын
While maybe not the best pistol ever designed it certainly is an interesting design with a lot of potential for improvement. Beef up the fire control frame a little, improve the overall quality (especially trigger feel) and provide more grip options (and more caliber options) and this could be a very serviceable pistol.
@afwalker192110 ай бұрын
I've never handled a CF98, and I know I don't know anything worth speaking about, but looking at your example gives me flashbacks from the Ruger P98 selfloaders I used to sell at the shooting range where I worked. I can really FEEL that wiggly trigger as it's pulled through its arc... it makes me pray for Smith & Wesson. I don't know if I can watch this! It makes me queasy...
@Marticulated6 жыл бұрын
Interestingly there are quite a few of these in the UK as well, deactivated or otherwise. Mine seems to be a much higher serial number, with completely different markings as well - 0701085, MOD. CF98 CAL. 9X19.
@dr.h.c.groner6 жыл бұрын
Happy new year🎆
@christurley3915 жыл бұрын
Year and day of the year is a fairly common modern way to date code and track right to the worker on the line.
@Meldonator6 жыл бұрын
Interesting indeed! Looks like a DP-51 (the south Korean K5) but with some quite nice way to operate. Now we need to see a MP-443 (or 446) to complete our eastern exotic view of modern handguns. 😇😁
@desroin6 жыл бұрын
Now I'm kinda interested in that chinese cartridge the gun is being used in China. However I suppose China being China there isn't much information about that out there
@StanwoodSpartans6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts aswell
@theelodgeovkeku6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna do a lot of good against sebilians or killer robots though.
@user-dv8ge8hf1o6 жыл бұрын
Wow Bud. You must have some really low standards. I'd be happier with a Russian TOK or Spanish 9mm then this objectionable thing. Ok not playing around but I'd be much happier with a Hi-Power clone from anyone then this Chinese piece of crapola!
@davidgoodnow2695 жыл бұрын
No, the info is out there and easily found; the Chinese DoD formed a good relationship with Soldier of Fortune magazine back in the 1980's and lets them interview, do test fires, and everything in between. The Chinese consider the 5.8x42 and 5.8x22 cartridges to be military-exclusive to the People's Liberation Army, possession or sale of any weapon chambered for either--or the ammunition itself!--is an execution offense, period! That is why police use the 9mm version. 5.8x22mm pistol cartridge uses 45-grain FMJ semi-spitzer with steel armor-penetrator core, like US "green tip" M855 5.56x45mm round, at 2200 fps. Its sole purpose is putting bullets through helmet or vest of police quality at very short range, less than 50 feet, with enough retained penetration to kill with good shot placement. This is like, cultists take over a police station and arm up situation.
@shivshankredemption50244 жыл бұрын
@@northumbriabushcraft1208 Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. 5.8 seems like a shit round and so does this pistol. Edit: out of a pistol, it's comparable to a 22 mag lol! They also say it has 1,500 fps, which I doubt. How many stages of fudging did that figure go through?
@SpoontheMoose6 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year
@sethmoyer6 жыл бұрын
That magazine follower looks like it could be trimmed a bit and still not tilt, so you could probably get a couple more rounds than 15 in there.
@G36Ghost6 жыл бұрын
At 06:55 there is also a serial number close to bottom of little arch, it reads 88627, if I'm seeing it correctly.
@Oblithian3 жыл бұрын
on the bottom face of the slide there?
@logansorenssen4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of a funky cross between a SIG P226, a CZ-75 and a Beretta PX4 Storm.
@luciferrutherford4446 Жыл бұрын
Was the CF-98 ever chambered for the 7.62x25 cartridge? Ian didn't say it was but the image pictured above in 0:25 I thought implied that it was, though over the last few days of looking around I've had no luck with finding an example of this pistol or even any information about it being chambered for 7.62x25. Does anyone else know anything about this?
@samholdsworth39576 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mod-mns6 жыл бұрын
I owned this pistol 2 years ago but I couldn't like the finish when I compression with np34 from the same company maybe because the quantity of the frame
@sethrich59986 жыл бұрын
Ian, any thoughts on how the existence of this effects the Steyr - Sig lawsuit. The patent claim is over a metal serialized chassis in a plastic grip. Steyr's patent is from 2001 and Sig's is from 2007. This being prior art to both patents could have major implications to the validity of both patents and any claims.
@BYLRPhil6 жыл бұрын
Seth Rich China has NEVER granted any copyright claims to any foreign companies. Check out the old Top Gear episode where they go to China and check out all the copies car models. A Chinese company directly copied the BMW X5, BMW sued, China did nothing.
@sethrich59986 жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstand the situation I was describing, it has nothing to do with China patent claims. The Chinese version came first in this case, the country of origin has no relevance, just the fact that it exists. In order to patent something you must show that the idea is original, part of this is claiming what prior art exists and showing how your patented idea is different. I don't believe either the Steyr or Sig patents included this pistol as prior art or differentiated how theirs was unique. The result could be that neither Steyr or Sig have patent rights to the idea.
@forestalfrank10746 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter if the chinese company had no Patents for their design.
@sethrich59986 жыл бұрын
Forestal Frank That's not true. You can't stop someone from making something unless you own a patent on it which is what you're referring to. However, you can't patent something yourself that already exists. That's the issue here. This product existed before either the Steyr or Sig patents which may nullify their patent rights. Prior art falls under fair/free use if the original creator never filed a patent.
@5anjuro6 жыл бұрын
H&K VP70 had a similar hybrid frame as early as 1970 if not earlier.. the Chinese might have been able to patent the modularity claim, but the whole idea of metal within polymer kinda lies on the surface..
@toddmori796 жыл бұрын
The 08 238 marking on the slide may also be year and day of manufacture. Just a thought
@davidforsberg56756 жыл бұрын
Great machining marks 😁
@thegoldencaulk27426 жыл бұрын
AW DAMN, I thought this was somehow part of the Rock Island Auction, and I was getting ready to bid on it! The rotating barrel makes it a necessary part of my collection.
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum49065 жыл бұрын
I shot the Type 92, the military issued version of this. It was okay, shitty double action trigger, awfully high bore axis, but the recoil impulse is surprisingly comfortable
@larrylee26375 жыл бұрын
The 3 dots on the sights are lumes, but they fade over time.
@charliea3723 Жыл бұрын
I liked the modular system like the sig of nowadays
@danielbosch1532 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see how little tool marks could be seen on the slide.
@ironwolfF16 жыл бұрын
Given that the Chinese put a arsenal number on all their weapons, the final 3-digit number is the factory number. (As an aside, I got lucky way back in the 90's and picked up an MAK with the '386' mark, and milled receiver... the same factory that makes their sniper / Olympic marksman weapons. For an AK, it's uncommonly accurate.)
@darkstarnh6 жыл бұрын
It could be that the 08 236 is like the MRE date codes, 236th day of 2008.
@jakenielson99146 жыл бұрын
Neil Harris Nice!
@TheOsfania5 жыл бұрын
The trigger and safety told me NO in the first few minutes.
@brittongolfwang6 жыл бұрын
Thanks dad
@tylerwilliams6022 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind getting one of these in the US. But I imagine they are quite rare and priced so. Looks like a sturdy piece that I wouldn't mind beating up, like a tackle box gun. If the price was decent that is.
@Jesses0016 жыл бұрын
I would love one of these in 7.62x25t. I am a fan of that round, but not a lot of modern firearms are chambered in it.
@Scorched-ww2nf4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@zidan1hao9176 жыл бұрын
the type 92 pistol actually has a terrible reputation among the guys using it. 5.8mm version is a bit better, but the 9mm version is simply cursed by heavy duty region police, dis function has cause the cops numbers of casualty....
@Zretgul_timerunner6 жыл бұрын
Jam, misfiring, mechanical failures due to quality disparity in the Gun, magazines and the human factor added to this.
@zidan1hao9176 жыл бұрын
and the quality control...it is a nightmare... the early production ones you can't interchange parts between guns and sight height is different.....
@user-qh3ye8vr3v6 жыл бұрын
Laird Cummings sometimes you wonder why give cops quality unreliable weapons to use
@richardgates57866 жыл бұрын
赵宝瑞 Do Chinese police departments select their own weapons? Or are they assigned their guns by regional/national government?
@user-qh3ye8vr3v6 жыл бұрын
Richard Gates assign,that is the part which is fucked up.producers of the guns dont have enough strict regulations for the final products,then……you know,slash prices!
@definitelynotmymain18084 жыл бұрын
It looks like what I'd imagine sig sauer's take on the browning hi power would look like.
@Oblithian3 жыл бұрын
Only then made as a replica in china. Rather than an amazing swiss masterpiece.
@RicinSoup5095 жыл бұрын
Ian can you do a video on the norinco np22? Since I'm sure we will never see one in the states anytime soon?
@dothwalrus370 Жыл бұрын
We need more modular hammer fired pistols, take note SIG
@willcaputo16 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well this suppresses with the rotating barrel
@chuckbridgeland61816 жыл бұрын
Is there a hammer spring in the grip frame?
@goosegoose95494 жыл бұрын
Where can I find magazines for this
@dennisjones90444 жыл бұрын
love to see a field test in any calibre
@Grhm4584 жыл бұрын
Ian, rotating barrels go back a little bit further than the Steyr Hahn.... remember the Roth Steyr m1907..?
@Xtorin_Housecat_Ohern6 жыл бұрын
i wish we could get the 5.8 pistols in the states, seems like a neat little round
@hamm60336 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, good morning from Iowa. 7 a.m. and you are posting. You are a bit of a workaholic. Hahaha. You are right about the pistol being kinda cool. Looks to me to be an assembly of tried and proven sub assemblies. Also it looks like a design that could be turned into a very accurate pistol. Machined parts instead of stamped ect. In this day and age I don't see a manufacturer doing this but an enterprising gunsmith might. Great to have my morning coffee with you. If you are ever in Iowa you have a place to rest your head and some fine steak to fill the stomach.
@Awoken_Remmuz6 жыл бұрын
Hamm 603 no need to be a workaholic really, with the option to set a delay timer he could be uploading a video to his channel at 2am in the middle of the night while he's soundly asleep. A bit of a insight behind the magic of youtubers.
@hamm60336 жыл бұрын
Remmuz crimsonlynx HAHAHAHA OH NO another hero exposed. Serious now, I didn't know that. It makes sense that it would be an option. There's probably a lot I don't know if you think about it. I just may look into what it takes and how posting is done. Thanks.
@shaiq-nbaiq18266 жыл бұрын
GI Sportz made a .50 paintball marker named the "Menace" modeled off of this.
@libertycosworth86755 жыл бұрын
Like John said below, externally, it looks a lot like the early Ruger P series.
@EcchiRevenge4 жыл бұрын
They already made lots of changes to the design a long time ago. This is not the standard service pistol. 9mm versions are not only for export but also used by police. (5.8 penetrates too much, SF don't even use it in international competitions because it would penetrate the thin steel target and fail to knock it down - thus not counting score-wise) NP-22(sig-clone) and the likes were preferred over this original design, so they made a QSZ-98B or was it 98-1.
@alfredwang76075 жыл бұрын
Soon it will be good if we can see a review for 92G
@ashenmichael54206 жыл бұрын
I always think Browning's barrel desigh destory the weapon's one piece looking in action, but never know you can do it in some other way. It would be even cooler if there is a gun combine this with striker fire :p
@mustafankamil19736 жыл бұрын
The locking looks just like the AK without the gas system .....Very interesting
@dwightehowell81794 жыл бұрын
Seems to be what's needed to me. The round they use should be able to shoot through soft body armor. I think he said it holds 19 service rounds. Recoil should be easy to control. Easy to make and maintain. At least as accurate as needed. I'd say it appears to be about as good as any service gun made by anybody. Ian thinks a glock is better but I'm not sure his better is going to actually give the user an advantage during a memeriable social exchange of ideas.
@pLAST3RdISAST3R5 жыл бұрын
I'd still like to have one of these things!
@gugelianghaoguge71053 жыл бұрын
if you want a da/sa & rotating barrel pistol, then berreta px4 is way better