The balance tilted toward Indonesia for a reason

Most Filipinos are too US-centric, and because of this China should take precautions. It's a waste of time for China to help develop the Philippines, it will only benefit the US in the long run.

Malaysia too. 🇲🇾🇨🇳🇮🇩🇻🇳

Good choice of China.

Long life friendship 🇮🇩❤️🇨🇳

Good for Indonesia. You do what’s best for you. Indonesia and The Philippines are brothers!✊ Indonesia has a fascinating history. Just look up the Majapahit Empire and how they defeated the Mongols.

Indonesia will do very well with China's support 🎉

Sejak dulu china belum pernah menjajah indonesia walaupun kapalnya pernah berlabuh dengan bangsa arab murni hanya berdagang

This is expected. China has been applying economic coercion to both big and small countries for years. China doesn't hesitate to use its power against Australia, Britain Canada and even Germany. I'm not surprised it is snubbing the Philippines to force the south china sea issue to its favor. China thought it could control the Philippines. The Philippines has become an unknown variable to China's policy making. If only China respected the Philippines ' core interests....

Good!!

Of course, she wants to control the Natuna.islands, her gateway to the strait of Malacca.

For me, nothing, because ever since the world began, Philippines and Indonesia are forever allies even different sides because we are brothers, sharing cultures and good friendship with them so for me Philippines not affected China’s favor to Indonesia because Filipinos and Indonesians loved so much and there is no problem with them and we’re remained allies so for me, it’s a neutral answer 😊😊 This year, Philippines and Indonesia commemorates the 75 Years of Friendship so let’s hope for the future of two countries as a Good Neighbors and One Family 🇵🇭🤝🇮🇩

Normal cuz chock point in java island.

what about Natuna Island?

Indonesia loves china❤

Trying to smear China again. Why worry. There is self praised mighty India. India can always cuddle Philippines like a sweet like brother.

ASEAN countries, except the Philippines, are geared toward friendship with China; only for one obvious reason - economic. And the same countries do not have territorial conflict with China. China is after the West Philippine Sea, an area where huge deposits of oil lie, and bounded by its 9-dash line claim.

As a filipino its fine for me.

Indonesia leaders are brilliant and fiercely sovereign. They don't have wealth in or are hostage to other other country.

Every nation does not want to give up its own sovereignty and territory. Abide with the international law. Don't bully other small nations. The Philippines campaign has many supporters and is backed-up with the International law.

What strategic shift? China has always favored Indonesia for a lot of reasons. China was never really closer to the Philippines than to Indonesia. China just humored ex-president Duterte. And centuries ago, China-Indonesia trade exchanges were greater than China- Philippines Trade exchanges. The China- Philippines Trade hugely favors China. The Philippines suffers a 17B trade deficit to China because China restricts the entry of many Philippine products while the Philippines accepts all kinds of Chinese products. In 2023, the Philippines, while having an acrimonious dispute with China over the SCS, became the fastest growing economy in the ASEAN+3 countries. Evidently, the Philippines is doing better despite it standing up against China's thuggery and thievery.

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That's money talked. Because Indonesia is one of the island nation that is on south China sea.

They are two Chinese, Taiwanese and Mainland Chinese..

I personally know Indonesia's president, Jokowi, and advised him already, while still major of Solo, his home town in Central Java, to befriend China. The two countries are both multi ethnic and multi religious with a multitude of languages and cultures as well as a common language and clear cultural common ground. I can only go well in a win win partnership. I expect Indonesia to be among the next BRICS members.

The Filipinos have never liked the Chinese and all this talk about China favoring Indonesia is just fine with us!

Philippines was colonised by Spanish and American before Japanese attacked them. China has always been cordial with Philippines as trading partners like with other nations in the region. However, it is the government of Philipines’ choice to be closer to American and Japanese.

China and Indonesia are ironclad brothers including Vietnam. 🇨🇳🇮🇩🇻🇳 WELL DONE BROTHERS.

Go for it China! The Philippines isn’t interested in China’s businesses. Don’t forget your Precious Cambodia as well. 😂🤣😅

We are now part of Japanese forces... hahah being china has nothing to gain

Southeast asia is not southeast china. Different people, different race (Austronesian) that is why they were bounded together as the ASEAN block. china is agresively claiming 90% of the south china sea as if they own it intersecting 5 ASEAN countries. chinas claim has already been nullified in the 2016 arbitration. china wants to get favor in asean countries since currently asean is their biggest regional trading partner and fears loosing this market thus giving them loans and favors in the face of its (china) struggling economy. When derisking accelerates, western and other factories from china will go to asean.. further loosing their grip and market. They need to maintain their influence in asean for them to survive. china needs asean more than asean needs china.

A bit of correct history is in order. After WW2, the consensus was that the Spratly and Paracel Islands belonged to China, hence the nine dash line that was there before WW2. These islands should be returned to China after the WW2 war ended. Second, Marcos Sr declared the Spratly Islands belonging to the Philippines after the word came out that oil/gas was found in the South China Sea. There were no claims by Spain, the Americans, nor the Japanese during their occupation of the Philippines. After the Philippines became a sovereign state in July,1949, the Philippines made no claim until 1978. The reasoning was the definition of territorial seas by UNCLOS. Further, as stipulated in the Treaty of San Francisco, any disputes of sovereignty would be via the International Court of Justice in the Hague. The Philippines chose not to do that but put the case forward for their claim in the Court of Arbitration to which both parties are required to arbitrate. China was a no show and to make the decision more noteworthy, the chief justice was Japanese who's country had a dispute with China over the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. He should have recused himself because of a conflict of interest, as did an Indonesian judge who also had claims in the South China Sea, he did not. "After World War II, the Spratly Islands were noted by the British High Commission of Singapore as territory that was returned to China. In 1971, the following statement was made: “Spratly Island was a Chinese dependency, part of Kwangtung Province…and was returned to China after the war. We cannot find any indication of its having been acquired by any other country and so can only conclude it is still held by communist China. (Far Eastern Economic Review, December 31, 1974).” It should be noted that this was outside of any major conflict in the modern period in the South China Sea (1930-1945, 1945-1956, 1974), and made after an exhaustive study was concluded by the U.K. Foreign and Commonwealth Office. It can therefore can be considered a reasoned statement of recognition made by a knowing and authoritative governmental source who was based in the Southeast Asian before and during World War II. The consistent nature of other statements made by Britain France and Japan suggest that these nations have historically taken the same position as China, and made public statements to that effect. For example, France occupied the Paracel Islands in the 1930s during the war between China and Japan. The occupation took place over a year after France had refused to abolish its extraterritorial rights in China, which had been held since 1844. The first official announcement concerning the seizure of the Paracel Islands was made by M. Bonnet, the French Foreign Minister at the Quay d’Orsay, stating that the islands were now occupied by two detachments of Annamite gendarmes from Vietnam in 1938. Amid the Sino-Japanese conflict, the Quai d’Orsay took the opportunity to note that “the islands have been visited by Chinese fishermen for generations” (North China Herald, July 4, 1938, June 6, 1934). Meanwhile, the Chinese Ambassador Wellington Koo informed M. Bonnet that China continued to claim sovereignty over the islands, and Japanese Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Mr Horinouchi also made official representations “regarding the French occupation of the Paracel Islands’ (Japan Times & Mail, July 6, 1938; Portsmouth Evening News, July 7, 1938; emphasis added). It is clear that the occupation by France of islands used for internationally-recognized Chinese historical economic life was protested by China as an invasion of sovereign territory, and was publicly repeated by Japanese officials, who wished to possess the islands for belligerent purposes that were directed towards China during their war of the 1930s and 40s. The impact today can be derived from a legal interpretation, as UNESCO and UNCLOS provide protections and rights for historic grave sites. " (maritime-executive.com) So, the Philippines claims no other claimants to the Spratly is patently false. It seems Marcos Sr was a claim jumper only because of the discovery of oil/gas in the South China Sea. It is also interesting that the US backs the Philippines when it is the only country not to ratify UNCLOS but calls its trespassing as 'freedom of navigation.' If you read up on UNCLOS, there is zero reference to freedom of navigation in a country's economic zone. What there is, is the notation of 'innocent passage' meaning no warships except those approved by the country to pass. Whenever US military vessels pass through the Taiwan Straits, it violates that rule in UNCLOS, ditto when it goes up to 12 miles of the Spratly or Paracel Islands. Innocent passage allows civilian merchant ships to pass through a country's economic zone without restrictions, hence China's presence in the South China Sea is no threat to commercial shipping but a threat to American and allied warships that pass through China's economic zone without permission.

when a little boy getting greedy. Since when a small island command 100 km surround the island? only Philippine wanted. Imagine Singapore demand the area Philippine demanded. Singapore will need to go to war with malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand Cambodia, Brunei ? How international agencies says Philippines can occupy 100 times more than their islands?

In fact, it is Indonesia that is in real danger. We are surrounded by the British Commonwealth to the north (Malaysia) to the south (Australia) to the west (India, Singapore, Peninsular Malaysia) to the east (Papua New Guinea), not to mention the 3 American military bases that surround us. . . in Australia, Papua New Guinea, and the Philippines. Not to mention the rise of China which could attack Indonesia at any time. Then who will help Indonesia? especially Indonesia which is a non-aligned country. Islamic countries in the Middle East? they are busy with civil war and killing each other. ASEAN countries? many of them are puppets of western countries. Indonesia only learns from China how to become a developed country. because only China and Russia want to share technological knowledge with Indonesia. America, Europe, Japan and South Korea, they don't want to share technology with us, they want us to just buy their products without telling Indonesia how it is made. they are countries that do not want developing countries in ASEAN to progress.

Philippines aka Ukraine #2??

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The reason is simply; the Filipinos chose to believe in a warm onger's reli gion. 😂😂😂

As if China fully trusted Indonesia, I believe China will not forget Indonesia actions in the South China Sea. To our brothers in Indonesia don't trust too much. We have been there, all Chinese promises gone into the air.

Wise leadership will bless its people with prosperity progress happiness stability security. Indonesia 🇮🇩 China 🇨🇳 ❤❤❤Zindabaad

I think the Philippines is buying trains from Indonesia.

South China Sea had been Chinese territorial water since ancient times.

Philippines is not interested, is what important is our sovereignty.

Magandang balita yan bus, sa ibang bansa nalang sila.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 para umasinsu naman ang pilipinas.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅.

As a Filipino, I don't want any significant Chinese investments in The Philippines. Specially those that pose a risk to our national security. Choosing Indonesia is better.

the red dragon is never far from the middle kingdom... with mucho, mucho love for China, your good amingos @ Argentina!

bagus itu baik, karena negara barat mengambil 50% kekayaan bumi kita itu menyakiti harga diri.

Correction, china never had a honeymoon with the phils. China only engaged in double talk with the phils. All its promises to the country never materialized, not one. Meanwhile china is trying to get on the good side of indonesia by giving money to fund projects but at the same time trying to annexed part of indonesia's exclusive economic zone in the natuna islands.

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Why the surprise ? Philippines caused a lot of hostilities . Of course it will not favored. Friends are different from enemires and trusted differently.

Indonesia berteman baik dengan tiongkok dan filifina .. Bahkan berteman dengan semua negara.. Kecuali dengan israel karena negara penjajah

A macaque living next to a 800kg Gorilla and misbehaving is hilarious.

Let the Philiphine side to USA. We will see what happen with these 2 countries in the next 10 years.

Well its clearly the Philippine not happy with China but both OK with Indonesia. Let indonesia becone middle trade hub between the two, hiw about that ❤. Win win win solution. Triple win.

The Philippines- Indonesia relationship is closer than the Philippines-China relationship. Indonesia is the big bro of the Philippines, that is why Philippines is buying Indonesian navy ships and Kopi.

How can China not favor Indonesia over the Philippines? Just because of a claim dispute, the Philippines chose to be antagonistic towards China. Claims should be settled by diplomacy and not posturing against each other. Vietnam even though they have the most islands in the South China Sea under their control and even engaged in firefights against the chinese where 64 vietnamese died, they stillc hose to maintain a friendly relationship with CHina. That is diplomacy, and now they are enjoying billions of investment from the chinese. The Philippines chose to be antagonistic so why would they proceed with the investments promised to the previous leader. And even with the previous administration, the filipino were the ones who keeps on hemming and hawing with these projects that only a few were started.

Indonesia has a long standing friendship with North Korea, which will also tip the scales with China

Phippine government represent the rich

The Philippines had a Stockholm syndrome from it's previous colonizers and forget all the inhumane and injustice done to their ancestors. That even the UN had done nothing to give justice to the victims. I hope someday they could identify their real enemies. Compared to China, China had never colonized the Philipines and enslaved the Filipinos compared to US and Japan. This dispute in SCS may be fix thru undying negotiations and bilateral agreement among claimant countries.

In my oponion, it is not favoritism, it is a matter of Government policy wherein Indonesia welcomes China more than Western Countries.

Philippines always Asleep!!!

Goodluck to china sharky loans 👍

Japan masterminded the one-sided "arbitration" and a Japanese man hand picked most of the lawyer firms PAID to sit on the panel. There is no such thing as a unilateral arbitration. Both parties must agree to an arbitration process before it can begin. He who pays the piper calls the tune. The panel sided with their paymaster. Aquino III was gay and he was Japan's puppet, frequently visiting Japan for "leisure" enjoyment. US, Japan and South Korea containment of China brings instability to the region.

Next sri lanka, just like chinas forest city in malaysia that what will happen to indonesia, they will also lose notuna islands

Philippines island,shouldnt in Asia nations. .

South China Sea belongs to China. Kick Marco out of ASEAN, but this will hurt Philippines. But Marco only cares about his POWER and not the Islands. There are strong oppositions from his northern base, including his admin, plus the south. He will be toppled, not for long.

Better to help Indonesia than the treacherous Bong Bong Marcos Government. On the bright side, there will be many pinoy who will witness the downfall of Philippines.

US made China the second biggest economy. Now US is taking back that title from China with its impending economic collapse. Philippines does not regret losing China. In fact, it will lessen its trade deficit with China. US companies now leaving China, hoping Philippines will benefit from it.

hahhaha, lets see in the future what will happen to this economic coperations between them, you don't need to look far to countries that holds hands with china before. Indonesia has so many islands that they could give 1 or 2 to china.

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We are now part of Japanese forces... hahah being china has nothing to gain