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Why should they? The US blocked China from entering the ISS. Why do you ask them to forget and forgive?

China doesn’t need an international team to do what they plan to do. They have been very successful doing by themselves. In the future if some countries want to tag along, it’s fine with China but absolutely not necessary for China to move forward. I have confidence that China can do it by themselves for whatever they plan to do. Their record so far speaks the volumes.❤

You're my go-to for Chinese space updates.

For any kind of building venture my bet is on China. Their infrastructure development is just on another level. No other country even comes close.

Thanks for this extended summary of the ambitious Moon project.

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东方，你的每一集节目做的都很细致。给你一个赞！

Well done China,, the technology Giant 💪🏻💪🏻❤

International yes. Excluding the US

Didn’t bring the Chinese when the international station first launches, knocked their application off with various ‘reasons’; guess it’s their term now.

As we speak, the two US astronauts are still stranded in the ISS.

Why should we Chinese make it international? Just cooperate with our allies, why should we let our enemies join too?

Another in-depth objective and entertaining presentation of the Chinese space programme!

If I remember right, China had already signed an agreement with Russia for space programs including moon base. Thus, technically, it’d be international.

Nice presentation with no political bias. Thanks!

of course，but USA not included

I totally understand chinese ppl to build every part of the project infrastructure. China is one of the most important insubordinated countries against anglozionist hegemony ruled by USA at the moment, relegate those construction tasks to other country would be a sustantial high risk due to possible USA interference/sabotajes. From the other side, no one is gonna sabotaje the construction of Artemis infrastructure, since Its USA itself the one that maintains that hegemony over most of the members u mentioned (not all of them are puppets). One more thing Dongfang. I recently saw a reusable rocket done by China that went up 10km. Is there more info I can check about that? Have a nice day and thanks for the video, as always.

Welcome back. Hope you had a wonderful trip. Congratulations

With China speed, I bet on ILRS to be successful and sustainable due to the effectiveness and efficiency of Chinese govt and bureaucracy

China should not make it international. Make it purely Chinese and never let US and west access to it

I think China is better off going it alone. More partners = more problems

Awesome episode thanks for the update!

We have an old saying in China,... what you say you do, your deeds will bear fruit. .....

bravo CHINA !!!!!!!

Thank you for the update, Jean...❤

Great video as always. I'm always happy to hear more details about Chinese progress.

Amazing quality video. Subscribed!

Its not about who is 1st on the moon but who will last on the moon.

Just like tiangong space station international relations in space are good for short term political gains, but they'll only be relevant on the long term when china will have settled on the moon basically by themselves, and while they keep taking market after market and investing into other developing nations space programs, they'll have a direct hand in their activities, so if others countries are interested in space or even the moon they'll quickly realize how out of reach it is for them, they'll have no choice but to depend on china, that's a smart move no matter what you think of it because at least that will allow them to use another country infrastructure to access places and ressources unavailables otherwise, this is some immenses long term political gains for china. Btw artemis is a joke you don't need to be smart to figure that out, this week they just lost a contract made with collins aerospace to develop suits for the artemis program, the thing is it's the most experienced company in the u.s that do that, and the actual suits are now way too old they had to cancel an operation on the iss because of leaks, on the chineses part everything is moving out just fine if not ahead of schedule, on the western part everything go from bad to worse; Missions of scientific nature are getting freezed or cancelled. Starship is showing limitations when it didn't even reached leo. Starliner is full of leak and boeing is about to disappear as things go on. Clps missions are nothing but failures. The european union nations are about to collapse economically and the u.s might follow within a few years. While china did build up a lot of experience and keep their plans ongoing, nasa lost it all in half a century of inactivity on the moon. Orion spacecraft still have issues of unknown nature that make the re entry shield unsuitable for a manned mission to occur And not last but i'm going to stop there because i don't want to write a comment that may actually be deleted for no reasons, an inactive russian satellite exploded forcing the iss crew to prepare to evacuate the station asap just in case as the satellite was on iss orbit. And they really don't need that. Nothing actually go well on the american side and the progress of the manned spaceflight part are really limited and we've yet to know if hls starship is even feasible, nothing is made seriously there that's for sure, and i don't talk about the lunar settlement part, nothing currently exist that even look like a plan, there's no architecture, and we're not even a decade away from the moment they're supposed to have a base? At some point the various countries that signed the artemis accords (mostly because of the legendary pressure the petty us gov is capable of) will have to tear up the whole thing if they want to collaborate with china, not because china will forbid it's partners to work with the us, but because the u.s will forbid the ones they see as pawns to work with china.

International except USA

Congrats! New Video!

My money on Team China: USA cannot PRINT the Lunar base, but China can BUILD it.

Informative, packed with information and entertaining as always! Thanks for the great video!!

The answer is a no brainer. Any country except the exceptional country, exceptionally troublesome.😊

Thank you very much for your informative update🙏👍🙏

thanks for sharing. very clear.

It can be international; but as the US didn't want them on the International Space Station, no doubt everything will be written and communicated in Chinese! The lunar "gps" will no doubt be based on Chinese standards. Good luck to them.

China’s space programme including the latest Chang-E 6 was on target on schedule working with Sweden, France and Pakistan launching their respective satellites to the moon. They schedule the moon sampling trip to 53 days returning as planned on 25 June performing all the difficult step by step operations flying to the moon, releasing the moon lander, sampler, ascender, rendezvous with the returner, transfer sample, returning to earth orbit and landed at the predetermined location. It is meticulously planned with advance communication relay satellite, appropriate adjustment of flight direction and very successful transparent outcome. When comparing with NASA’s Starliner with all the problems and delay at the moment, it is a such a huge gap between the two countries. Considering for many years, US has been trying hard to stall China’s space technological advancement without success.

🎉the return of the king! Long time no...update😂❤

Nice job!

Great videos 👍👍👍

Before talking about competitions, let’s see if the West Artemis project could actually softly deliver some working equipments to the moon surface.

Good stuff

the budget comparison shows perfectly the theory behind 2 moon exploration programs (ILRS vs Artemis), that is ILRS serves/focus on developing countries, where Artemis aims only developed countries. US also weaponize Artemis program to against ILRS and probably has exclusive rules that force its participant can only join one instead of the other. A very American way. So, it's not China willing to make ILRS more international or not, it's US should be criticized to its insane "cold war" mindset and "space race" mindset.

Jean: The 30 June Space Pioneer spectacular 1st stage test failure caught everyone’s attention. The booster failure was a falcon 9 equivalent. Space Pioneer was about a month away from launching a falcon 9 equivalent. A video explaining Space Pioneer’s progress and planned capabilities would be of widespread interest. 1… the expected payload weight capacity 2… how that capacity compares to SpaceX’s first Falcon 9 capacity and how that compares to the latest design SpaceX Falcon 9 3… when will Space Pioneer launch their first Falcon 9 to orbit? 4… what is Space Pioneer’s anticipated launch rate over the next few years? 5… what s Space Pioneer’s chances of upgrading to improved performance Falcon 9 equivalents and when? 6… will Space Pioneer develop a Falcon heavy equivalent or Starship equivalent and when? 7… any other interesting facts you know about Space Pioneer As soon as Space Pioneer successfully launches their Falcon 9 equivalent, they will get lots of attention and possibly motivate the US government to more actively support SpaceX’s starship😊

China’s plans over the next 15 years are so exciting. It is quite unbelievable, really, to think of it all coming together! And the Chinese consortium will do it on time and on budget, totally leaving the EU and the US behind.

Thank you 🙏

To be honest, China along can handle all the aspect of aerospace program, it has 10 million graduates this year along, and 1/3 of it are of engineer/math/physics background. there is enugh human capital in China to fuel almost all industry segments.

Artemis is a conjob. you do not need gateway if you have starship, and if you have gateway you do not need starship. both system requires considerable resources and you will be left with nothing to land on the moon with. the reality is most NASA staffer are only interested to go to mars, this is why they build the gateway, it is a demostration for long term flight outside the van allen belt. they only shoehorn the gateway to the moon mission since the congress is only willing to fund that. I am betting on China establishing the moonbase first as they have no selfish intention hidden among their space administrators... NASA pet project is too big of a drain, not just on money but more importantly time.

Being international doesn't need extra adjectives. China's plan is indeed international and doesn't necessarily need to be. The idea of "Trully being" is a mental flaw and doubt of your ability to do something you already prove you can do cost effectively.

Finally! We really miss your videos. This is very cool, please don't disappear.

Excellent one, again, thanks! 👍 The international cooperation is an ineteresting question. I would like to see more cooperations between the countries, and also between the space programs (ILRS and Artemis) as well. Actually, a third big space program is under development, a private one from SpaceX mostly aiming Mars). How will the 3 big program interact, work together? Is China open to cooperate with a US based company? I rather doubt, but who knows?

love how you narrate

little mistake about the date at 0:46 (2023 instead of 2003) but great content all around! Keep up the great quality.

Finally, other countries can participate. There are bright minds all over this world.Thank you China.

very objective observation and analysis without political bias, great video

China only need one country to join the Moon Base for it to be international. It has more than 10. China has the tech to land and lift off the moon so it has every thing it needs to build the base. The question is Are they two moon bases targeting the same location? If so, then it is indeed a war.

India's next Chandrayan 4 is a sample return mission from Moon. Before that Mangalyan 2 (Mars orbiter mission 2 ) will be launched. Now the agency is fully concentrated on human space flight. Also a reusable space shuttle concept is in the initial stages.

Interesting!

Our country actually doesn't need help from other countries. The so-called international cooperation is just our generosity in saying 'let's include you as well.

Not possible to be international. It is like you built a house and you will only invite good friends to visit.

The only moon USA astronauts walked on was in Hollywood😂

Even Eskimo is welcomed but US. Due to national security taught by US.

Can NASA trust Boeing to build a moon base? Can the world trust NASA without Hollywood's assistance?

Is it possible the use of SMR (small modular reactors) or pebble bed/breeder type reactors for the ILRS?

这集质量很高，全部介绍了所有的信息，画面也对

good video！love from china

always a treat when you post, jean. post more!

At 0:45 the screen caption is wrong... Should say 2003

oh wait,when britis went to australia for the first time hundreds years ago ,did they invite china to come to australia to share the land and own the huge island together?

How are they getting through the radiation belts?

Dear China Space Programs, I am interesting in volunteer to services the Moon mission, I have electronics background and experience in electrical wiring. Will work for food and board and willing to travel to the Moon... 🐮

10:24 it should be Falcon Heavy not Falcon 9 !

@ 12:08 , two notable countries among the 12 that joined ILRS program: Nicaragua, a very small Central America nation with a bigger space exploration ambition and Turkey, NATO nation that jettisoning earth politic for the wonder of extraterrestrial exploration.

Good luck 🤞

your audio sounds very "wet" and is kinda difficult to listen to for those of us afflicted with the misophonia, is it possible to fix that? love your channel and space news from china is very important!

CIA - ' China has destroyed NASA Apollo Mission landing site, leaving no trace of American Astronaut on the Moon surface !!! '

10:23 slight correction, it will be similar in payload capacity to the Falcon Heavy (marginally superior, iirc)

Yeah it may take a bit longer for China but China still can do unimaginable things even if China is alone in space race. Proud of China!

Can anyone explain 13:12 ? Why are they erasing Russia from their presentations exactly?

Excellent presentation. Chang'e 6 did deploy ICUBE-Q, a Pakistani lunar remote sensing observation satellite. The countries first lunar mission. It will be fascinating to watch what international cooperation develops regarding Tiangong (Chinese Space Station) over next few years. Experiments, and partner crew/visitors. This might foreshadow active lunar partnerships. One challenge with Tiangong is it's lower inclination (41.5º vs. 51.5º for ISS) which makes it more challenging/impossible(?) for Russia to launch rockets to from its current launch locations. Russia launched the first ISS module, Zarya in November 1998, which ultimately determined ISS's orbital inclination. So having space launch partners does have some geo-political and logistical implications dependent on Earth.

When China went to space for the first time in 2003, Shenzhou 5, the lone pilot stayed in orbit for 21 hours, and after he got back to earth, he could barely stand, kind of walking limping. The next mission, Shenzhou 6, two pilots stayed in orbit for 4 days, and they could barely stand too, but not really walk. Longer missions, 10-15 days, they cannot even stand. Soviets don't show much, but their pilots are always dragged out by others, not by themselves, and they are on some stretchers. So, how come only Americans walk out and jumping and running and standing on their feet, right after their space missions? Moon mission, 12 days, they walk out and stood on their feet fine. Skylab 4 mission, 84 days in space, they got out of capsule on their own and walked out like soldiers. Space Shuttle, sometimes 15, 19 days in space, they march out of the shuttle as if they are ready to fight. Do you have more information on this? How does Chinese citizens view about American space program?

well i just remenber the International Space Station don't allow china join the project, even russians in.

Yes, SCO or BRIC nations can share the station .

Gateway is postponed right?

Does the international space station program have China?

From what I understand it really seems like a bunch of ground robotic mission cooperating together in the same area but not like a real crewed base. Yes, maybe some crew will land in this area but it does seems like the base is just here to bring support to extend the duration and capabilities of landing mission. The name "base" seems very misleading

I just hope that I can see Chinese astronauts standing on the moon in my lifetime

You see China is not fundamentally concerned with the number of countries joining ILRS, as China's capabilities alone are sufficient for the lunar project. China's openness to such an organization stems purely from the desire to avoid criticisms (from the US) of harboring ambitions to monopolize the moon. Now that the organization is open, the decision to join or not is solely up to the discretion of other nations. All humanity should work together to jointly explore the universe. It's really quite childish for countries like the US to engage in factional confrontation.

Those Reds and their shenanigans.

Visa for Guanghan Palace please

Come on countries!!! You can do it!!!!

Why China build their base should open to all？

NASA : WE HAVE NO PLAN TO LANDED ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE MOON ( IT IS ALWAYS DARK) I SUSPECT NASA LANDED ON THE MOON 😂😂😂😂

Just remember that contrary to popular misconception in the West, "International" does not mean "with the G7".

ILRS will pick up steam once it becomes obvious that it works, and once the Global South develops their economies enough to be interested in space exploration. This also addresses the point of whether China will entrust other countries with constructing critical modules. There's a fundamental difference between the western program, which brings together countries with already established space industries, and China's program, which will include many countries with no prior experience. This project is also about tech transfers as much as anything else. And that's something the West just doesn't do (or in a very limited and politicized way).

Congratulations China, this is your century.

@0:48 seconds typo October 2023!

If you build it, they will come.