Yup. That is precisely how we got the F-15

Indeed. This is what's called 料敌从宽

赞同，很多中国人也应该有这样的心理

smart❤

Opponent? who? China, or your ter**sm troop fighting for capitals? be clear who your true enemy is. China wins, everyone win, including ordinary ppl in the west. Your living cost will go comfortably low with China victory.

什么年代了，还用机炮

And what happened to the Phantoms? They got lured in close ranges and got their cheeks absolutely clapped

@@desperatetogetsomehoes Except that didn't happen. Slow Phantoms doing bomber escort were caught in high speed ambushes. Then MiGs were lured by Phantoms flying in bomber formation and got clapped. Instead of bombers with Phantom escorts, they were full Phantom combat patrols.

They developed it just in time to watch the US Navy to move to stealth refueling drones and networked F-35s to replace or supplement AWACS. Always a step behind.

@@desperatetogetsomehoes That was mostly for USAF Phantoms trying to engage MiGs in close combat due to the rather archaic rules-of-engagement at the time, where IFF (identify friend or foe) had to be done visually, which practically negated the advantages of long range missiles. Note that in Vietnam, the US Navy Phantoms were far more successful in air combat despite their own F-4's never being upgraded with guns, unlike their Air Force counterparts. It's also a fact that in the last 60 years, the number of air-to-air gun kills on modern conflict zones can be counted on one's fingers, whereas the majority of kills were made with misiles.

with WS15 higher thrust, J20 can achieve higher Mach number during supercruise and get to TO faster than anyone

I understand new production runs will have the WS-15 engines now, until the WS-20 engines become ready

@@MrScrunchee WS15 is the endgame engine for J20..... WS20 is for Y20 strategic airlifters

@@fatdoi003 not what I heard. As both you and I don't know what the Chinese govt will do, we will just have to wait and see.

@@MrScrunchee well you can just do a simple search ws-20 and see all the images are for Y-20.... it's a high bypass turbofan engine

Yes if you took his opinion on Su-57 where he grasp straws by referencing most outdated information on the jet such as RCS figure before it was even produced.

@@lukapreradovic4466 I would beat the SU-57 in a fight.

@@lukapreradovic4466 Mate, he took Sukhoi's own data. Also, Russia's barely made any.

Except it's engines suck...a lot.

@@anzaca1 which he already said are getting replaced this year...

The aircraft would be too fast to optically track them.

I mean, while it would be funny, the technology for extremely maneuverable, albeit very short ranged missiles has existed since the 70s, and while a gun requires the nose to be on target, a missile doesn't with helmet mounted sights, technology that existed since the 70s.

Short-range missiles will still be more maneuverable and precise than an autocannon.

Autocannons are definitely not an outdated feature, they are very versitile and are a great failsave in case of running out of other munitions in A2G and A2A combat.

​@@jll5446aim9x?

Hard to see the compartment not compromising stealth. Not that the oddly-angled canards, ventral vertical surfaces, and exposed engine nozzles don’t compromise that enough.

@@bluemarlin8138 You don't understand its function. The compartment is used only during non-combat missions to deny the enemy from getting good radar cross-sections of the plane. During combat missions the compartment is retracted and covered with RAM tape. Furthermore, he cannards are "oddly-angled" in order to not be symmetrical with other surfaces of plane, that makes the cannards much less visible to radar than if they weren't "oddly-angled". Lastly, regarding the engine nozzles, the WS-10 and WS-15 are serrated nozzles.

@@bluemarlin8138 Your conventional surfaces will compromise stealth around the place with bigger sensors that can detect longer distances.

You can clearly see the Luneberg lens at 10:23 of this video.

@@bluemarlin8138 The purpose of a Luneburg lens is to increase the observability of the craft, and also (perhaps more importantly) prevent any studying of its LO radar profile.

This logic doesn't apply to countries that are trying to catch up. Look at Russia for proof

@@liiou4445 China actually backup their barks with bites, they even managed to produce the VN20 in numbers and export them, which everyone thought was just crazy barking from China, it is not wise to just write them off

@@liiou4445 Well they allow the public to get almost arms length to the J-20 on a static display. During some airshows, they parked them out for public to almost touch. Airshows where the US military even had representatives too. I think that's what the original comment was about.

@@esphaeraspraestans4212 it's all fake. please stop the China threat propaganda.

​@@liiou4445俄罗斯怎么能跟中国比？事实上拿美国和中国比还是比较合理

That sound... jeez

there is a clear advantage of delta/canard design towards maneuverability and range... that's why most european designs use this configuration - Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen

Canards do not affect the range of the plane. Having a shorter or longer takeoff run isn’t going to have an effect how much fuel you have left once you’re in the air because acceleration stays the same whether or not there are canards.

@@collander7766no, the more lift, the higher your takeoff weight which mean you can carry more fuel.

@@lagrangewei could very well be true, but that’s irrelevant because that’s not what OP said. They said it used less fuel.

@@collander7766 "by producing more lift and that fuel can be used to ferry the aircraft farther" this is what op said

J20s are equiped with ETOS and EODAS that F22s don't have. J20s actually have the upper hand against F22s. F35s are more of an even match for J20s. F22s are outdated.

You’re too kind, and your words have more impact than you may think - thank you!

@@KabodaOfficial ❤️❤️

If it could integrate with an F35 the best strategy would probably to just supplement F35s with j-20s to boost numbers as a single F35 with its sensors and stuff would massively multiply the j-20s capabilities.

I love neutral guys like you❤I just couldn't stand some extremists boosting the things of one country while trashing everything from the competitor

I think it's true intended use is as a strike aircraft/missile truck. I refuse to believe the Chinese actually think that configuration would produce a more nimble fighter than a Raptor or Lightning. Especially when they had technical data on both. This is not an aircraft either should fear outside BVR. I'm sure it's a nice, capable aircraft, but not a competitor. Neither is the Su. But good on them for ACTUALLY PRODUCING SOMETHING WITH SOME AMOUNT OF TECH THAT ACTUALLY WORKS....even it they stole it.

Probably poorly But I honestly doubt China will fight asymmetrically or ever fight against other jets. These J20 are fast, much faster than F35 with 7 times the payload. Their job is not to detect shit. Their job is to get in. Drop their load. Then fook off.

The best you’ll probably ever witness would be watching some DCS scenarios. They’re not 100% accurate by any means but they’re pretty close with any known aircraft specs/avionics. Amazing realism/graphics especially since they introduced multi-threaded servers (increasing FPS and online performance/capabilities). Checkout “Growling Sidewinder” YT channel….he already has a ton of videos showing multiple matchups between different aircraft’s, including the J-20, SU-57 Felon and even some experimental aircraft (like Darkstar, SR-72 and more).

My pleasure!

Thank you, it means a lot!

你这个视频是多少年前的？？？我笑了！继续贬损吧！继续活在梦里！

Glad you enjoy it!

and soon J20 will be the only 2 seater 5th gen fighter that can do EWS and drone warfare

​@@fatdoi003They also have that vigorous dragon plane and various SU-30s. I think J-20 isn't for dogfighting other aircraft

@@cinnamon3578 imo J20 is a long range BVR interceptor using its stealth quality, launch their PL15, PL21 >100km then supercruise RTB..... also J35/31 is coming very soon....

found the tankie@@fatdoi003

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lol

China has a terrible track record with engines, im sure they will very quickly close that gap but not yet

Well, you did say, "If".

@@Utubesuperstar realiability is different from performance.

I think the J-10 might be inspired by the Israeli prototype IAI Lavi and the MiG1.44 but the J-20 seems like a good progression from the J-10

If you notice the designs of US Air Force NGAD and US NAVY's F/A XX have been China J20 without or with tail fins, canards and etc...However, we need the NGAD like Yesterday. It would have been nice to have the F23 black widow 2 now....PS JS20 is now a two seater with better super cruise engines now...Have we lost the sixth generation fighter contest like the race of the China H20 and US B21 Raider...H20 was flying already...

@@paperitgel98no it is not, there is J9 way before lavi. and j10 and lavi isn't in the same weight class.

@@rgloria40 That is an extremely stupid statement. There was no race between the H-20 and B-21, for one the race was won by the US 26 years ago with the B-2, and two the B-21 is undoubtedly leagues ahead of the H-20. We haven't lost the sixth generation fighter contest for one due to the fact NGAD is the closest sixth generation fighter to production and service, and two because it is almost a certainty that NGAD will be more technologically advanced and would have the upper hand in the majority of engagements.

@@johnbean9797 Free feel to be the one to be over tax .....for project that should have adhere to a schedule and overbudget as well as hiring unqualified people...

It looks like a brick.

@@billrich9722 if the j20 is a brick then the f35 is a fucking semi truck

@@PedroNesto24 Hey, to each their own. Semi trucks are fucking sick, though.

I love the peterbilt 389

@@billrich9722tell me you wont be scared to see someone throwing a brick at you at mach 2

Glad you think so!

I mean the US and China both seem pretty overly optimistic about how we’d fare facing off against each other. Course maybe that means we’d both lose.

@@LWGanucheau thats true what you said. But we will both lose for a different reason and we both know what I mean

你还懂《孙子兵法》？但是西方国家好像不懂：骄兵必败。

What's your source on Russian and Chinese radii range being 1/2 ferry range?

The Indian air-force detected & tracked the J-20 over Bainang... If you extrapolate the distance between the nearest IAF base to the county... you'll realize that either the J-20's stealth capabilities aren't as good as they're being touted to be... Or the IAF has deployed exceptional radars which are more than capable of tracking current 5th gen stealth tech...

Why do you Indians never speak through the brain? Also found J20?? Your media hype is brainwashing you@@SiberianStar

cant speak for every country but the US is doing similar with their "loyal wingman" program. The US military has plenty of flaws but just look at Desert Storm to see how they've long been pioneers in network centric warfare.

All of china's military is "prepared for war" but lack the military competence to do so. What do i mean? The U.S. has veterans that have served in wars, China doesn't. The knowledge, training, and on the ground experience cannot be replicated. The US is far better prepared on that front. Imma say the US has a acceptable and respectful 93% win chance against China though not without heavy losses.

I lowkey want to just to see how 5th gen aerial combat would look.

@@thelouster5815 Missiles and drone swarms flying everywhere. The side with the inferior planes would be getting shot down before they even see the enemy. Dogfights would be scarce and would only happen as a last-resort when all other options have been exhausted.

@@thelouster5815 It would look pretty fucking boring.

那样最好

Very good points!

China build ship and planes before WWII, they are not as backward as people think.

cannon on a 5gen fighter🤣🤣🤣 . modern warfare fight start at 400+km away or the range of your anti air missile 2nd reason it dont need a cannon it can easily out run F22 or F35 render your cannon a dead weight

​@@jetli740Reread the comment, because that's not what they were fucking saying.

@@jetli740 ... according to chinese statistics? Sure. When they are known to overstate their capabilities of their equipment, much like russia does. And the US, by contrast. Will if anything. UNDERSTATE, it's capabilities.

@@Destroyer_V0 lol technically no country would really reveal their military equipment true capacity. Usa the worse one by overstate their true capacity or completely denied it existence like the sr71 blackbird. other example is F35 or f22 it Radar cross-section the size of a bee. Using logic mean it cannot be detected by any radar right? but....... example why iT BullSH1T the F-117 R.C.S is 0.003 (f22 is 0.001) but the F-117 got shoot down by Serbian army using S-125 surface-to-air missile in 1999. ( yeah that s125 is very old ) it not hard to connect the dot.

Really? in the last 20 yrs has any aircraft been shot down by guns? Even the balloon was shotdown by 9x

Chinese AA missiles are good, although there are obvious flaws with launching a missile from 300 km away. Usually you don't take the maximum range of the missile as its kill zone. For example PL-21 cannot be stored internally, which isn't good for stealth aircraft.

J-31 will take the place as a real stealth fighter.

Funny to see how every design more closely resembles the F-22

@@foodselyeah it’s a fight jet, how else are you supposed to design a fighter jet? All fighter jets have similar characteristics due to there are only so much you can do differently before compromising aerodynamic and firepower capabilities.

Early reports on chinese literature explicitly states it's an air superiority fighter

@@foodsel airframe is the last aspect to judge a jet

Sounds a lot like saying you did it because you saw somebody else do it.

@@billrich9722 That's usual in military.

F35 is a very good submarine.

Only China can liberate the world.

@@Superpo0oper2020so is the moskva 😂

@@Superpo0oper2020 ah yes comrade Vatnik, that 1 whole F-35 that was involved in an accident is truly representative of the nearly 1000 planes built thus far.

You're just jealous because there is already a thousand F-35s working for the allies, technology that your china can't even replicate even a little.@@Superpo0oper2020

people still seem to think its 1940. Even in Vietnam when guns were found to still be useful that was mainly due to some failures with air to air missiles that were rather quickly fixed. Especially with stealth planes all the added weight and radar issues a gun would create just arent worth it when in a head to head engagement 9/10 planes are going to be downed from beyond visual range, they're not going to be dog fighting at super sonic speeds like it's the bloody blitz.

India is 30 years more developed than China.ChineseWeapons are defective and cannot be produced independently.Using Russian technology.And stealing American technology.China does not cooperate with Indian competition and comparison.We prefer India.Love from China.❤

J-10 is based from lavi fighter israel, china re wre buying the design

@@windrose5988 sure it a rip of the f35 or f22 but the cannard how that work? plz stop be ignorance. if you put a cannard on the f35 or f22 every thing relate to flycontrol have to be replace .

@@user-gc1hg9sp9kChina has gotten a lot with regards to US industrial and US military tech from Israel. Israel’s a back door to US industrial/military technology for China and Russia. Yanks still haven’t out two and two together. God damn idiots lol

@@jetli740 Lol canards make it 100% not a product of theft. You are being delusional, given the known history here. It's just all the radar absorbent material and 40 years of testing stealth to figure out what will work and what wont that the CCP ripped off. Oh well, tofu dreg chinese copy pasta will still get dropped

"For those holding strong faith yellow monkeys can't invent", you really going to act like the J-20 wasn't fast forwarded by the CCP's espionage. Crying racism for getting called out on facts infers your own racist assumption

That’s a good idea, I’ll add it to the list!

@@KabodaOfficial and TFX fighter of Turk Azeris and Pakistan

Conquering the world? Probably not. Becoming the #1 superpower? Absolutely. That is something I feel is worth worrying about, especially if they decide to export their methods of governance to other nations as the USA has a tendency to do.

Not the world, just East Asia...

@@r.u.s.e3586 MAGA Americans, Russian, and the Chinese are very similar in thinking. I'm inclined to believe they're successfully exporting their governance model here. Both groups are filled with con-men and are insanely corrupt and all of them openly lie and/or stamp out dissidents. The difference so far is is that China operates with the belief that lying, cheat, and stealing are okay. I don't mean internationally as in spying or tech theft but to their own too. It's literally ingrained in their culture. I'm of the opinion that China's biggest threat is its inability to deal with that. We've already seen Russia's performance... I hate to imagine what we (in the US) are going to look like in the future.

It looks like a brick.

... What does that have to do with the efficacy of a gun?

You may outmaneuver the plane that's hunting you with a gun. You are a lot less likely to outmaneuver a missile.@@billrich9722

@@billrich9722 you don't need it

@@lolasdm6959 You only need something if you intend to use it. This is America. We intend to use the gun.

​@@lolasdm6959Not sure what you base not needing a autocannon on but with good stealth aircraft it's hard to keep weapons grade lock from what I've read and seen in sims and also the aircrafts having electronic warfare and jamming capabilities. Since autocannons are immune from everything a stealth aircraft has and uses as advantages. Having a autocannon seems like something I'd very much rather have and not need it, even if its never used. Than need an autocannon and not have one.

I guess that's why the F-35 is selling like hot cakes compared to the F-22, still, it's better than anything Russian by miles

The Su-57 is wide like the US planes. Soviet interceptors had long ranges too.

J20 has a lift coefficient of close to 2+, and it’s much slimmer compared to F-22 and Su-57.

@@Ilovecruisebecause of those huge wings and canards

@@netsimam how is it different from traditional design which has a much larger tail wing? It seems people are always missing that out? Is that something I am missing?

@@Ilovecruise don't quote me on this, but traditional tail elevators/stabilizers usually produce negative lift for cruising speeds (due to a combination of trimming the pitching moment and the need to keep the aircraft stable in pitch), they exist mostly to maneuver the plane rather than as another lifting surface. Meanwhile canards can be (not always) used as an extra lifting surface and elevators at the same time, at the cost of worse radar cross section (and before the age of Fly by Wire, too unstable); the Swedes highly prioritize short landing and take off, hence why their fighters are usually in delta-canard configuration.

They didn't design this aircraft to shoot down Russian bombers, they designed it to shoot down American AWACS and sink American ships in a hypothetical war for Taiwan. Whether it can actually achieve that remains to be seen, I doubt it has the edge over American 5th gen (and 6th gen in the near future) aircraft, but that is no doubt the mission the Chinese want it to accomplish

Why would the tu-95 and su-34 be it's adversaries?

@@kanestalin7246possibly early in the design stages when China was more of a competitor to Russia than the US, or they think that China is more likely to engage Russia in eastern Siberia than the US over the pacific?

So J-20 basically is a Chinese stealth version of MiG-31

@@benbowland Russia and China have territorial disputes along the Northern border and during the Sino Indian border clashes, Russia aid India. That's why China views Russia as the main threat instead of US.

It's more along the other way around but correct. The J-20 and the VX-23 look extremely similar.

With the same same tech too

You could probably apply that logic to the f-22

I can imagine the canard is under a lot of stress during higher G maneuvers, so i should think it’s impossible to use just composite materials

Tell me you don't understand what radar is without telling me exactly that 😂

silicon oxide is optical opaque at standard radar freq @@HailAzathoth

Thats not how radars work, its about surface perpendicular to the wave direction. Canards provide area to bounce back radar waves. It is likely they use software to compensate by directing canards less favourably for aerodynamics but reduces radar returns compared to normal canards.

Okay but they spent decades figuring out modern turbojets. Respect for whichever scientist/lab got it right, but they had the homework done for them and actually lacked the understanding. Which isn't surprising, some engineering/materials science classes in the US aren't even open to non-US citizens. There's allegations that Chinese academics are pressured to have scientific paper mills to artificially inflate China's perceived scientific development. Some notes are indecipherable if you don't know what the writer knew.

@@ChucksSEADnDEADThe CCP exaggerates China’s economic numbers and population, so it’s not much of a stretch to imagine them inflating their scientific development.

Yeah, « copying » is the logical choice; who the hell is giving out brownie points for coming up with an original design from the ground up in a war? The AK-47 is clearly derivative and taking the best aspects of the M1 Garand and STG-44, the two most effective service rifles of WWII, in its action and its design philosophy respectively, plus some innovations of its own, and the AK family has gone on to be one of the most successful combat rifles in history. It’s what Newton called standing on the shoulder of giants.

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD decade or 2 does it matter, if you sucess in the end, china build jet since the 50s they not new in the game, a copy the plane to build a different jet just dont work. it just like i ask you to repair a tesla with a wv golf manual

@@jetli740 It does matter. It signifies a gap. If you're so good at copying homework, why should it take 20 years? It means that everyone else will keep leaping forward. Success in a vacuum is great. But now F-35s will have a new engine enter development. So by the time J-20s are fully fitted with the proper engines, the US will have NGAD and more powerful F-35s. Success isn't enough to win. You have to succeed over others.

What in the fuck are you talking about?

Indeed, also worth noting the Chinese geopolitical situation puts their likely flashpoints quite close to home, which has effected their design choices.

True, but planes like the F-35 also have the advantage of numbers and thanks to economy of scale they're likely cheaper too. There's nearly 5 F-35s flying for ever 1 J-20 right now and the price tag of the F-35 keeps dropping putting it within reach for more and more countries, and making it easier for countries to buy more of them. The J-20 meanwhile only has 1 customer and even if they were willing to sell it to other countries most people dont seem interested in buying Chinese warplanes compared to European and American equivalents which makes it all the harder for China to gain the numerical edge, and means it's easier for the US to dump larger amounts of money into R&D. That supposed/likely theft of technology that happened with the Joint Strike Fighter program also has made countries more paranoid about security, especially seeing as we seem to be heading into a new cold war, making future copying of tech more difficult which combined with increased R&D spending by the US means it's going to make it harder for China to catch up in the future and harder to innovate domestically. The PLA is getting larger and larger budgets as the PRCs economy continues to grow, and if we continue into a new cold war that's all the more likely to happen, but it's alos possible that similar to the USSR in the 40s, 50s, and 60s once scared out of complacency the US may only accelerate the technological divide.

True, and a new Cold War this time around would be a mess. Not sure how capable the rest of the worlds countries trade will compensate that buying power deficit from the US if that ever happened. At the same time, the US hasn’t positioned itself very wisely to manufacture internally like it had in the past….another Cold War doesn’t look too promising for anyone, anywhere. The US military complex might be the only winner ATM between both countries?

unlike russia lol

actually 200+

It's already 200+

年产量100-200架

It’s on my list!

You're right.

Blud its still a copy jsut like the j-35 and canards arent stealthy

Err. Korean war happened after Chinese civil war finished(if you don't count current day china Taiwan as ongoing unfinished civil war still). That was a pretty major conflict.. and we all know what happened. It was China's coming out party, they defended nk with nothing but poverty, brains and guts, no tech, no air force or navy even. Not even enough food or clothing.

Made in China😂😂😂😂

@@user-vv3se4wt7v better than the Sov- oh sorry, Russia.

Both China and Russia jets are junk. One cannot fly and one exaggeration. Made in China😂😂😂😂😂😂🐼fat Xi.

J-20 is a bit smaller than the Felon

@@redoubtwithoutdoubt9945 are you guys really serious of this crab

To be fair, that bar for being better than the Su-57 is really low in the first place

@@ImBigFloppa If the F-22 is Usain Bolt then the Su-57 is a man with no legs and the J-20 is his twin brother with a pair of prosthetics.

186 f22 vs 800 j20. 😂

That "numbers" part may be an issue though. China doesnt have much of an aircraft or engine market, their only real defense customers almost exclusively buy cheap, low end equipment since they're mostly poor, and as a result aircraft are one of the few things China cant really get economy of scale with since they have to "sell" 99% of their aircraft domestically and while large their defense spending is still a fraction that of the US's about on par with EU's combined defense spending. Since the US sells to EU/NATO allies, British Commonwealth countries, Asian allies like Japan and South Korea, _and_ to many countries who are just afraid of Russia and/or China it creates a gigantic market for US aircraft and gives the US a much better ability to achieve economy of scale even outside of the US's gigantic domestic market. The J-20 has similar units so far as the F-22 which was only ever going to be a very limited run of planes since it cant be sold to anyone outside of the USAF, not even the worlds 2nd largest air force: the US Navy. The J-20 is absolutely dwarfed by F-35s so far at a rate of nearly 5 to 1.

The other question is what did it trade for that long range. To be similar size to the f22 with 2x the range it either has massively more efficient engines, or has skimped on payload/other aspects to gain that range.

@@Aefweard Chinese engines are rather crude things and not every efficient. Assuming Chinese claims for range are true, (that's a big if!) the J-20 gets its range from a large fuel load. It is heavy and add to that the design configuration makes it sluggish. It is not some hyper maneuverable monster that some fanboys and the Chinese claim.

​@@dat581nobody in the community thinks J20 is an agile, manoeuverable craft. It's a missile truck, that's it.

@@Aefweard in fact it is much larger and thinner shape than F 22 by public number. And they use the all-angle moving canard/vertical tail to compensate for lift and agility, which means much harder control system.

@@elmohead it's pretty manoeuverable in airshows.

ah yes, that whole 1 plane of the nearly 1000 built. Truly a crippling failure.

@@arthas640 Well..I just didn't want to mock too hard.. There was like one going submarine in SCS..another disappearing like MH370 in USA.. Another got brought down by a chicken in Syria.. Another jumped down in Japan.. Yet another went nosing on Japanese runway.. Also another decided to disappear into submarine mode at Uk, and Russians were hunting for it.. The list goes on.. LOL 🤣😂🤣🤣

Thank you! Will do!

Dogfighting training is still very common, pilots need to maintain the ability to handle high G’s and learn the techniques they may need, while also learning other methods. F-35’s are always buzzing around practicing this too, despite it being - if anything - a secondary role.

There are dedicated short range missile with Helmet-mounted display and sliding missile launcher for dogfight. It seems China just do not believe dog fight with autocannon, or they trust their long range missile and do not believe 2 short range missile is not enough.

China has plenty of planes that have autocannons. Look at the new J-15's

I get what you mean but Russia doesn't make.

already is. China's already starting to poach contracts that were previously filled by Russian military giants in the "cheap crap for 3rd rate militaries" niche since everyone is starting to look at their supposedly rugged, dependable, Russian.

I’m being nice about the J-20, why am I getting Chinese comments assuming I’m saying it’s bad?

I take it is meant to address some of the comments from others. Your video is quiet good and fair to me@@KabodaOfficial

thats where you might be wrong, the J20 is actually slightly lighter than the F22 and now with the WS15, has more thrust. meaning it will be at least as manoeuvrable. Canard designs are also exceptionally manoeuvrable at subsonic speeds.

@@hughmungus2760 the J-20 is indeed claimed to be slightly lighter than the F-22. However, the claim that the WS-15 has more thrust than the F119 is suspect at best. Obviously we don't know the real thrust figures for either engine, unless you have access to US and Chinese classified data. The open source data indicates that the F119 has more dry thrust than the WS-15, 26,000 lbs to a claimed 23,000 lbs roughly. So it definitely has less dry thrust. With afterburner the WS-15 is claimed to have between 36,000 and 40,000 lbs of thrust, while the F119 is just listed as having "greater than 35,000 lbs of thrust." So the WS-15 MAY have more thrust in afterburner than the F119, but it has less thrust without burner than the F119. So the J-20 with the WS-15 MAY have a better thrust to weight ratio than the F-22. Of course maneuverability is about more than just thrust to weight ratio. It's also about control surfaces, overall weight, wing size, wing configuration and a number of other factors. A delta with canards can be very maneuverable, on the right aircraft. A small lightweight fighter like the Gripen or the Rafale can have very good maneuverability. The J-20 is not small, or lightweight. Its slightly lighter than the F-22, but nowhere near as light as the Rafale or the Gripen. It's empty weight is more than the Rafale's max takeoff weight. It has a lot of mass that has to be moved through turns and not as much wing area to support it as the F-22 has, canards or no. Larger delta winged aircraft are just inherently less maneuverable than smaller ones, and less maneuverable than an equivalent sized aircraft with a more conventional planform. It's also a long aircraft, relative to its width, not a compact one like the Rafale, or even the F-22. This is also bad for maneuverability, as it means it will have a larger moment of inertia at the ends of the aircraft and be more difficult to rotate on its axis and point the nose where the pilot wants. Thrust vectoring will help, but I'd be surprised if it has the kind of maneuverability the F-22 has. It just doesn't seem to be designed as an air superiority fighter. I could be wrong though I suppose.

Yes, F-35 definitely has the “first look, first shoot, first kill” in beyond visual range BVR. But in a dogfight or within visual range WVR combat its 50/50 or which pilot is better trained or who first makes a mistake. And F-35 is no couch potato. It can definitely dogfight as it is maneuverable enough. It has similar if not better thrust-to-weight ratios and wing loading as compared with other 4th gen platforms. With a high angle of attack AoA F-35 can replicate thrust vectoring control TVC maneuvers without even having TVC. Especially F-35C with its bigger wings it can do the same tight turns Su-57 and F-22 do. F-35A can do the same but at the cost of higher Gs. Consequently, in a 1 vs 1 match, if either J-20 or Su-57 manages to survive in BVR would mean F-35’s pilot already made its first mistake.

@@johnsilver9338 there are certain advantages a twin engine high thrust/weight aircraft has over single engine designs. Most notably the ability to supercuise and fly higher thus get better milage. Strategically speaking the J20 and SU57 would be better at accomplishing interception tasks and combat air patrol against 4th gen fighters because of their longer range, longer loiter time, larger missile payload, and faster tactical response time. The only real advantage the F35 might have is that is might be more stealthy from the front.

@@hughmungus2760 Nope, J-20 can only carry 4 x PL-15 and 2 x PL-10, while Su-57 only carries 4 x K-77M & 2 x R-74. While both F-22 and F-35A/F-35C Block IV can carry 6 x AMRAAMs and 2 x AIM-9X. Also F-35A/F-35C has around 750nmi combat radius and that is already carrying 2 x AMRAAMs & 2 x 2000lb GBUs. It can reach 800nmi+ in A2A config. While F-22 can achieve 1000nmi and more depending on altitude, loadout, and speed. On the other hand 4th gen platforms including F-18s, Typhoon, and Rafale would need external tanks to reach comparable ranges. For comparison, F-35A with 29,000 lb empty weight; 460 sq ft wing area; 1 x 43,000 - 50,000 lbf wet thrust; 18,250 lb internal fuel; and 4 x AMRAAM, 2 x AIM-9X has around 1.08 - 1.25 T/W ratio and around 86.8 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. With 6 x AMRAAM, 2 x AIM-9X has around 1.06 - 1.23 T/W ratio and around 88.3 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. F-35C with 34,580 lb empty weight; 668 sq ft wing area; 1 x 43,000 - 50,000 lbf wet thrust; 19,750 lb internal fuel; and 4 x AMRAAM, 2 x AIM-9X has around 0.93 - 1.08 T/W ratio and around 69.2 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. With 6 x AMRAAM, 2 x AIM-9X has around 0.92 - 1.06 T/W ratio and around 70.3 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet with 32,000 lb empty weight; 500 sq ft wing area; 2 x 22,000 lbf wet thrust; 14,400 lb internal fuel; 3 x 480 gal external fuel including tanks and pylons with similar armament of 4 x AMRAAMs & 2 x AIM-9X has around 0.92 T/W and around 95.9 lb/sq ft wing Loading at 50% fuel. Gripen E with 17,640 lb empty weight; 1 x 22,000 lbf wet thrust; 7,500 lb internal fuel; 2 x 450 gal 1 x 300 gal external fuel including tanks and pylons with similar armament has around 0.75 T/W and around 87.3 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. Rafale C with 21,720 lb empty weight; 2 x 17,000 lbf wet thrust; 10,360 lb internal fuel; 3 x 2000 L external fuel including tanks and pylons with similar armament has around 0.93 T/W and around 74.4 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. Typhoon with 24,250 lb empty weight; 2 x 20,000 lbf wet thrust; 11,000 lb internal fuel; 3 x 2000 L external fuel including tanks and pylons with similar armament has around 1.03 T/W and around 71.4 lb/sq ft wing loading at 50% fuel. So F-35 definitely has a good enough T/W ratio and wing loading especially if it gets the Block IV engine core upgrades. Also downside of dual engines means more parts to maintain and more parts that can malfunction. Additionally, a single engine has a lower thermal signature compared to having two heat sources. So it is undoubtedly better for stealth. Lastly, going fast reaching supersonic and more is also inconsistent with stealth as it makes one a bigger brighter infrared target. Hence why it is not required for F-35 and B-21 Raider, since F-35 has its DAS and AIM-260 JATM with its tri-mode seeker including infrared guidance.