Bro happy you shared the weight with pedals. Dont know if i could have gone to sleep otherwise. 😂😂 Super dope ride mate 🤌
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Haha. RoJ would send the squad after me...
@PatrickLino9 ай бұрын
Good stuff my man.
@The14b887 ай бұрын
hi joe! Amazing bike, please bring back that BF sale i missed :\ im planning to build a really similar bike. Thanks for the videos and keep it going! Pandapodium rocks!
@jeffreyreed60569 ай бұрын
Excellent video and music so far! Great work!
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
DJ Jazzy Jeff in the house.
@nunomarrazes8 ай бұрын
Hi Joe. Nice video and very nice build. Those wheels really seem top notch. Curious to see what are you trying next, as I can see many really exiting things coming out of China these days. With so many people having issues with the word "affordable" - which is definitely a subjective concept - I guess no one can argue it's not super "competitive". Cheers
@Carftymk9 ай бұрын
i can't bring myself to buy another bike so soon after just building one.... but you better bring back that BF deal for frame+crankset+wheels+bars next year!
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
We wanna get to the point where we can offer great deals all year round!
@racerx84107128 ай бұрын
Great bike and channe! I just built a lesser but still very good bike. Airwolf YFR001 frame, Airwolf wheels, bars and stem. Swapped over an Ultegra 8020 group set bought in 2017. Comes in at a bit over 7.7 kilos before going tubeless. Not counting th e groupset but w a used Stages non drive power meter about $1500 USD. It was a pain in the ass to build but well worth the wait and frustration. My third charbon bike, i named it "DaPhuc" and custom made vinyl graphics for it!
@cyclopenguin9 ай бұрын
waiting for sub-1kg for under 1k bucks 😂
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Hahaha, Sign me up!
@Randy_Newman9 ай бұрын
These feiyu shots are nuts.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
No Feiyu shots in thsi one... Insta360 360" camera on invisible selfie stick. :)
@THESWPLACE9 ай бұрын
Wow nice build. 🔥🔥🔥
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Thanks 🔥
@invisiblescout63359 ай бұрын
You can get this frame directly from the manufacturer and another brand. Does Tavelo do any extra qc or anything? Sidenote, I think the T1500 downtube shape is horrific for aerodynamics and I wanna do some cfd analysis. I'm gonna try and do something with the pictures online to get something close. Don't think you could get me a 3d model of the frame could you? 😁
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Not sure if the frame you're talking about is the actual same frame. 🙈 As I said in part 1, there are a few brands who use this frame overseas, but AFAIK they're all selling it for more, not less. As for the T1500, sorry, I don't have any of their stuff.
@CarsandBikes9 ай бұрын
Can you make a video of biking in xiamen? I split time between Zhu hai and California and like how the roads are paved with dedicated bike paths
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Xiamen is legit a cycling paradise. Very underrated.
@abhimawa14 ай бұрын
No drama → my dream bike
@universe-juice9 ай бұрын
Very sharp!
@kimwarner60509 ай бұрын
Joe when will the reenforced canary bars be available? I cant stomach the darimo bars price. And please try to talk them into making a 340/360 bar. It would be perfect.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
I'd also prefer a 340 so I have motivation to push them haha. Reinforced canary is still coming I think, but the new falcon I think is also stiffer than the canary. Just got one in for testing. (Also heavier, more aero...)
@vietnguyen43129 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling Hi Joe, do you know the stem angle of the new falcon? Is it still +10 degrees?
@barteksadaj45799 ай бұрын
What's the name of the manufacturer. Where one can buy them?
@Panagiotis-Skordilis8 ай бұрын
Excellent video, which wall stand is that?
@bluemovies33977 ай бұрын
Will UCI team Ferei Mongolia be riding Tavelo frames instead of Onirii next year?
@ramagehill705425 күн бұрын
Can the frame fit mechanical shifting? Shimano 105 for instance?
@Onigure9 ай бұрын
Just under 6 years of savings 😅
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Don't worry, in six years the industry will be back onto rim brakes. 😂
@kristiaandoms28228 ай бұрын
Hi Joe! How does this frame compare to the Winspace T1500 D? Thanks.
@chessgames59318 ай бұрын
Where can I get the direct mount derailleur hanger for this bad boy? (What is the model/brand?)
@hockysa9 ай бұрын
what happened to the previous video? youtube saying it's private
@bendardania9 ай бұрын
I am curious what’s the weight of the frame. The link you reference that shows the details of each product is not showing anywhere. I heard your claim that bike is about 1kg lighter than any of pro’s in world tour are racing. Bike is light because you have supper light components. Any of the world tour bikes with components hanging on this bike would bring down the weight to about or under 6.
@fastestmilkman38409 ай бұрын
The weight info is on their website, per colour.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Yeah, this build isn't about the frame (or any single component for that matter.) it's about the bike as a whole. If you put all these components on a Tarmac SL8 SWORKS it would be lighter (and a few thousand dollars more expensive...)
@bernardo92029 ай бұрын
Can you share the price you payed, not the price you sell the componets at? Only if you want obviously
@kachonmok7 ай бұрын
HELLO i want to know your handle bar ? look so cool !!! where can buy and whats name about this . thank you so much
@dylanl95329 ай бұрын
The gap between the headset and the fork looks to be pretty big.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
It does look a little big doesn't it. Lemme check I didn't use the wrong bearing...🙈
@rodulfomartinus3116 ай бұрын
Is this bike available with mechanical shifting?
@bernardo92029 ай бұрын
Does the frame fit mechanical groupsets?
@randysmith95785 ай бұрын
How strong is the carbon material?
@chicoh22a9 ай бұрын
It’s time for this company to start selling all these bikes to US
@daviddang824 ай бұрын
Any info on the tavelo arrow?
@tourdechi9 ай бұрын
Joe what is that camera you’re using? Need
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
A mix of equipment. Usually Insta360 stuff on the bike (though sometimes with DJI or GoPro) and then Sony A7s iv for off the camera. Maybe I'll make a video on my gear one day.
@p5ng4769 ай бұрын
What kind of powermeter pedals are you using? Thank youuuu!
@konigsegg_1to19 ай бұрын
assioma favero duo, he mentioned it earlier sometime
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Yup. Favero Assioma Duo. Had them for years; love them.
@HongkeyKong9 ай бұрын
Good review! What are the items would you recommend (if any) to change out for heavier riders (81kg)? I know about the carbon saddle. What else?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Heavier guys can change the handlebar to the Farsports F1S, change the saddle to something padded, the CRW wheels are fine upto 100kg. If you're at / close to 100kg, maybe switch to the SCOM wheels (stiffest wheels I"ve tested on my rig.) Everything else should be fine.
@rg8078 ай бұрын
Hi, what rotors are you using?
@backuptimmy4124Ай бұрын
UCI legal?
@lalithjalakam31889 ай бұрын
Do u feel any flex when sprinting on the exs aero bar?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Nope. The EXS is a lot stiffer. However, I sprint like a yorkshire terrier, so not the best guy to ask.
@dddreeeeeee9 ай бұрын
both are 140mm disc rotor right?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Yup. More than enough for my weight.
@DanTuber9 ай бұрын
4:18 why do they paint the bottom of the trees white?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Good question....
@jinngeechia97159 ай бұрын
I can answer this. It is to allow the trees to be illuminated by lights at night so you don't crash into them.
@DnDMF9 ай бұрын
Mainly for protection against pests. It is lime (calcium hydroxide) not typical paint.
@tournieg8 ай бұрын
Any details on the rotors?
@ChinaCycling8 ай бұрын
Galfer, check the part 1 video. So far they ride well.
@tournieg8 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCyclingthanks Joe, keep up the good work.
@olo3989 ай бұрын
cant hear tire noise huh? cmon joe LOL hahaha
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Some artistic liberalties with the description, but, it's genuinely shocking how quiet this bike is. (Or maybe my other bikes are all too noisy.... )😂
@olo3989 ай бұрын
there was a time way back where the mark of a well maintained bike was how silent the drivetrain was....i feel ya....dont even ride with the resonance/disc brake in my bike, sooo ugh. so uh wheres the bike with rim brakes bro? f disc brakes man. @@ChinaCycling
@anthonyhenderson88669 ай бұрын
Which city are you living in ?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Xiamen.
@marginatux9 ай бұрын
Part I is not available - private video.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Whoops! Linked the wrong video, will fix later today when i'm at the studio.
@fastestmilkman38409 ай бұрын
@chinaCycling Is the chainring for 12spd only?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
11sp no problem. My colleague Tom has them on his supersix running 11spd sram red mechanical.
@dylanl95329 ай бұрын
no power meter just to save weight?
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
I like the assiomas, they have lots of data like out of the saddle time, etc. So, may as well use them and no on-bike power meter.
@BenFerber9 ай бұрын
If it’s like a Tesla does that mean it spontaneously lights on fire, locks you in with the only escape being unscrewing a speaker, and spontaneously veers into traffic
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Hahahahhahaha. 😂
@carlogalopo26056 ай бұрын
If it's more about you and not the bike characteristics, does it mean you're boring? 😅
@ChinaCycling6 ай бұрын
I think so..
@mireia32089 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call 6000$ affordable. There are second hand cars in good condition cheaper than that. Affordable would be something that is less than a typical salary.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Yeah... I don't know what word to use. The price is there in the thumbnail so everyone can judge for themselves (so it's not misleading) but an equivalent performance big brand bike would be like $10,000 - so... "afordable-er" ?
@top_banana9 ай бұрын
Affordable for who. When people say affordable, it usually means general population not the rich. The general population can not afford to spend $6,000 on a bicycle. They would be more like $1000 or less.
@dioright9 ай бұрын
For 1000 bucks you can get used supersix evo or emonda on rim brakes, which would be weight close to 6.5 kg. But it takes time to found one
@zedtony81109 ай бұрын
I can afford that bike, still I wouldn't classify that bike in the affordable category.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
I get it. Everything is relative though right. You can have an "affordable supercar." or an "affordable house." This is the most affordable way I could build a sub 6kg, high performance, hydraulic disc brake road bike. Anyway the price is clearly in the thumbnail so it's hardly like it's clickbait.
@matthewavignonpetersen58939 ай бұрын
I think @chinacycling made it pretty clear in pt. 1 - this is affordable compared to a high-end Western build (about half the price of the likes of an SL8 to get this weight.) He never claimed to be reviewing a Walmart bike, this was always an attempt to get to a super low weight with as little money as possible. Do you care to actually watch and understand the context or are you just here to grandstand? Don’t blast a solid creator when you don’t understand the premise - that’s just disingenuous.
@viet0ne8 ай бұрын
If someone said a car is $6k, majority of people would say that's affordable.
@wtfiswiththosehandles9 ай бұрын
Affordable, bike that costs 6k USD. I don't want to live on this planet anymore...
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Welcome to 2023. 🙃
@trisupersport14789 ай бұрын
Простая китайская рама за 500-700 долларов, одноразовая больше 3 лет ни них не катают к сожалению тому пример мой SEKA проехал 1309 километров и пошла трещина в пере я год ждал раму что бы катать 1.300 километров и сказать ой эта не гарантийный случай
@top_banana9 ай бұрын
I have a bike now that weight 23lbs khs urban extreme. Don't see a reason to spend money. My point was that you stated affordable, that is not affordable to the general population.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
"Affordable" is certainly relative. This outperforms many ~$12,000 bikes, so in that context, it's a bargain. I'm currently working on a build that is around a third of this price, so, don't worry, haven't lose my ways.
@johnnyboy47118 ай бұрын
affordable?🤣🤣🤣
@Tucsky9 ай бұрын
Since when has a bike priced at $6,000 been regarded as affordable? 🙄
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Since around 3-4 years ago when bikes started costing >$10,000.
@gabscar19 ай бұрын
Affordable 🤣
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
Definitely relative. Depends what we're comparing to.....
@shepshape25859 ай бұрын
Is this still the channel that made it's reputation showing us how to save lots of money by buying quality Chinese bikes and bike parts for much less than the Western name brands? How can you call $6,000 "affordable"? Because it's not $10,000? Can we get back to actual affordable bikes and bike parts please?
@Evaso_CC9 ай бұрын
Not really - it has always been about quality over cheapness. Trace Velo does the cheap stuff ;)
@shepshape25859 ай бұрын
@@Evaso_CC But how many of us think about a $6k bike as affordable? I saw one comment that said that would be 6 years of saving. Also, if I were ever going to spend that much on a bike, which I never would because the bike makes almost no difference, I would buy something from my local bike shop simply for any warranty issues. I ride Chinese wheels currently, a set of 38mm SuperTeam carbon wheels that I love. But they were $274 on sale on Amazon about 5 years ago. $6k? Does anyone believe that bike will make them a super climber if they’re not already? It’s not the bike, it will never be the bike.
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
I hear you loud and clear. I like to do the whole spectrum. So a $6k bike that can go head to head with a $12k bike. $1k wheels that can go head to head with $3k wheels, etc, etc. I also buy 2nd hand bikes and they're the best bang for your buck you can get, but there's only so many times you can make a video telling people to go buy a 2nd hand rim brake road bike. (Well, unless you're Durianrider, then you can make one every week.) Anyhoo, there's a very cheap alloy build coming on the channel soon...so, don't worry. ;)
@shepshape25859 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling Now you sound like my wife. “Honey, I saved us $4,000 today! I bought a $10,000 dress for $6,000. You can use semantics all you want, $6,000 is not an affordable bike, and as long as bike channels keep pushing the idea that they are, bike manufacturers are going to get away with charging way too much for their product. The idea is to get as many people riding as possible. Most people hear $6,000 is affordable and they take up running or swimming. And you don’t need to push second hand bikes to find value, so that’s just a copout, and it also looks bad to bad mouth another channel. Unsubscribe.
@fastestmilkman38409 ай бұрын
I get it that the word affordable is triggering but as Joe already said, it is all relative. The bike industry is fu$ked anyway as they got greedy and it changed the perspective, don't blame the little guys, go moan at GCN or David Arthur pushing 12k bikes instead.
@ooookaaay17469 ай бұрын
Affordable rofl 😂😂😂😂😂
@ChinaCycling9 ай бұрын
It seemed a better choice than "cheap". Haha. I guess it depends what we're comparing to...
@lordkambing8109 ай бұрын
If its aint rim brake, is automatically shite, and anything sold in USD (in the yen perspective where I live BTW) is expensive AF now. Even though its chinese stuff, its still expensive AF. For ex, your cassettes in panda podium site is duraace level pricing 😂. Ill rather buy the duraace stuff if you know what I mean.
@ChinaCycling8 ай бұрын
If you're in Japan, Dura Ace defo has the home advantage. Also, I heard the Yen took a huge hit these past few months.