Chinese Cost Cutting Masterclass - Costelo vs Time Xpresso pedals

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How do these Costelo Carbon Ti pedals from AliExpress compare to the genuine Time Xpresso pedals they are modelled after?
I am always on the lookout for lightweight components on AliExpress, and a few months ago i stumbled across the Carbon Ti clipless road bike pedals from Costelo. They are some of the lightest pedals I have ever used, and at just over £50, are a pretty decent price as well. So, what’s the catch?
Well, they appear to be knock-offs of the Time Xpresso 12 Titan pedals, and from a visual standpoint, are nearly identical. They are the same size and weight, are made of the same or very similar materials, work in exactly the same way, and even the cleats are interchangeable between the two.
However, the Costelo pedals are less than a quarter of the price of the genuine Time Xpresso pedals, so where have the costs been cut in manufacture?
Well, the carbon composite plastics, the cleats, and the titanium axles are basically the same between them, but there are certain aspects of the design and construction with the Costelo pedals (especially looking at the bearings), where costs have been cut significantly.
In this episode, I’ll be reviewing these pedals in detail, comparing them to Shimano SPD-SL and Look Keo pedals, and ultimately telling you why I think these should probably be avoided.
Got any questions or comments, stick them below 👇 and I'll try and get back to as many of you as I can!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Start
00:48 - Intro
02:39 - Closeup look
04:17 - Weight
04:50 - Visual differences
06:57 - Design differences
13:56 - Performance on the road
17:50 - Final Thoughts
21:08 - Costelo the company
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About Trace Velo:
I love cycling, and I love getting pro cycling kit for less. If it’s cheap, from China, and made of carbon fibre, I’m interested!
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Please note:
All products demonstrated in this video have been purchased by me, and I have no affiliation to any of the sellers or vendors shown.
In addition, I am not a professionally trained bike mechanic. There can be risks associated with using products that are unbranded, untested, or come from sources where the provenance is unknown. Please talk to a qualified bike mechanic if you are in any doubt.
In essence, be careful, do your research, and cycle safe!!!

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@stefanobellote 2 жыл бұрын

1st let me congratulate you for the evolution of the channel, Luke.. being here since the 1st build it's so awesome to see not only the quality raising, but your knowledge and detail analysis of the components, construction, etc.. thanks for the dedication and content!!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks so much Stefano, what an awesome comment!!! I'm always trying to improve my videos, so glad this is coming across 🙏🙏🙏

@hebleh5771 2 жыл бұрын

Man not only do you do these cheap chinese parts, which non of the big channels do, you do up your videos in such high quality and detail into these parts, looking at the construction etc. Really a one of a kind. Eveyone always needs to save a buck or two in this expensive hobby. You are really doing everyone a giant service thanks man!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad you like these videos :)

@chris1275cc 2 жыл бұрын

The plastic "tags" (actually called "flash") the rougher surface (and maybe even the colour saturation) is likely less to do with the actual moulds or materials and more to do with skipping the finishing steps. Usually on more high end plastics someone would manually trim off the flash with razor and very quickly hit the the parts with a blowtorch (referred to as flashing), the heat temporarily melts the surface smoothing things out and burns off any white mould release powder (talc) imbedded in the surface which can mute the colour. You could do this yourself and see if it brings the knockoffs more into line aesthetically with the originals.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Chris, fantastic comment, dropping some KNOWLEDGE on me! Interesting though, from what you have said, they will have skipped several finishing steps, so it will definitely have bough the cost of manufacture down!

@richardharris8538 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo This makes me wonder if Costelo was manufacturing the pedal bodies (in China) all along for assembly in France, where they used better quality bearings, etc. Anyway, thanks Luke. (Maybe the "Made in France" logo was stretching the truth?)

@todesfertig 2 жыл бұрын

“Let’s hand this of to Luke in the studio” made me giggle :)

@uhohDavinci 2 жыл бұрын

I always watch Trace Velo videos ALL the way through to make sure he gets that sweet "watch time" for the analytics/algorithm. Love your stuff man, you're doing everyone a great service!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

MY MAN!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@recreationaltreeclimingwit6370 2 жыл бұрын

As always, informative and amusing, keep the episodes coming Luke

@muhammadmulla5812 2 жыл бұрын

Love the dedication and attention to detail in the review. Thanks for doing these.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@kukulele 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, so exiting - waiting for new videos aswel!! Great, incredible work here! Thank you.

@englishcyclist 2 жыл бұрын

For the weight saving and reliability of these knock off's I'd still go for SPD-SL bob basic at 309g

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I mean i have an old pair of PD-5700 SPD-Sl pedals. I must have done 20,000 miles on them, and they are still perfectly smooth!

@romanpramuka2703 2 жыл бұрын

That's incredible you even bought original ones to compare with knock offs. I'm using original xpresso 2 from last summer and I love them. I want to upgrade (???) with knock offs, your review helped me. What I found, All Time pedals (xpresso and even Xpro) have these white bushings instead of needle bearings, except some older higher end models like yours xpresso 12.

@borist7278 2 жыл бұрын

I'm very excited about your gravel bike build video - I might have trouble sleeping until it comes out!

@RegBinary 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos never fail to make my day. Keep it up Luke, as always ;)

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Reg!

@CR250noob95 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video, well done. Really looking forward to seeing the gravel bike take shape

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy, yeah I'm really excited to put it together!!!

@Oldslowironman Жыл бұрын

Hi bought a costelo road bike 2 years ago, full carbon, frame/forks, 80 and 60 mm deep carbon wheels, 11 speed ultegra di2 disc brake, integrated stem/bars, really great bike, looks exactly like the cannon aeroroad bike....

@iljinnam84 2 жыл бұрын

I am enjoying your clips from time to time in S. Korea. Thank you for your review. I lived in Lancaster, the UK. Cheers!!

@charlcoetzee93 2 жыл бұрын

Tracevelo and Spindatt are my fav channels for cycling tech/setup these days. Some big channels are feeling like they just push the most expensive gear blindly.

@aaronweigerber5313 2 жыл бұрын

U should try hambini as well!

@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker 2 жыл бұрын

Hambini is an acquired taste.

@grantnyenes3742 2 жыл бұрын

Another great quality review and production Luke!! Keep up the great work, looking forward to see you building that gravel bike..

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers grant!

@EJD200 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video as always. Also really looking forward to that Senicx crankset video 👀

@eschedefilmcrew 2 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to see you building up that sweet gravel bike! I think its actually quite interesting, how cheaply one can build up a gravel bike from lets say a trekking frame + a rigid carbon fork (carboncycles for example) and some used STI levers (ST-RS405 or ST-RS505 can be real good deals sometimes). It requires a bit of tinkering with the compatibilities, but i learned a lot and managed to build up some very nice and cheap bikes for me and my friends. greetings from germany

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if you shop around, and are willing tinker around with some second hand parts, you can def do it on the cheap. But yeah im really excited to see how the gravel bike turns out... Especially with the braking setup i've chosen, its gonna be an interesting build that's for sure!

@benhadman2812 2 жыл бұрын

When you say cheap, how much do you mean?

@philkennethdeleon4536 2 жыл бұрын

I don't own a road bike but love watching your reviews 😁 top notch!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad you like them!!!!!!!!

@merckxy54 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Luke, keep them coming please!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Graham!!!!

@adambarlev8992 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service to all bikers everywhere

@MrBolonio 5 ай бұрын

Im glad I watched this post before dealing on Craigslist for insane deal,I almost got burned.Thanks for your content🤙👊

@TraceVelo 5 ай бұрын

You're welcome, glad it helped. On that note though, those costello pedals are still going strong with minimal maintenance... must have done 1000's miles on them by this point, I'm pretty impressed tbh. Might be worth a followup

@jonathanfroggatt5865 2 жыл бұрын

Another great show Luke and I’m looking forward to the gravel bike 🚴

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan!!!

@blooptastic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the in-depth comparison! I've bought a couple of XPresso 12s over the past decade, and a few of the lower-tier XPressos too. They are fantastic pedals - second to none in looks (sorry LOOK), weight, quality, and ergonomics. I just checked my oldest ones (~2013) - they do not have the groove in the spindle, but an etched L/R marking, like the Costelo ones. Newer ones have the groove. The original TIMEs also used nylon bushings for a long time. They last, but definitely have more play than a proper needle bearing. Swapping the bushing for a bearing is a popular mod. Newer XPro ones have bearings, anecdotally the Mavic branded ones that TIME manufactured also used bearings, but I have no first hand experience with those. The originals could regularly be had for around 150 USD (from reputable distributors, not aliexpress/ebay knockoffs), so the Costelo ones aren't that great of a deal. I'm sad they have been discontinued. BTW, the TIME pedal brand is owned by SRAM now. Even post-acquisition, their customer service is flawless. They just sent me replacements for some worn parts free of charge.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

OK thanks for the comment bloop! Interesting that they bought in the groove post 2013... maybe the pedals I've seen are legit. It's can be SO difficult to tell with these Chinese products. You are right about SRAM though, their returns policy is pretty stellar!

@ignaciopernia 2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure about that Mavic point? Here another Time user, that bought a Mavic pair on 2015 aprox and after about 15k kms they wore out that bushing. Mavic gave me my money back. They where the previous than top of the range model (carbon body without titanium axle) I still use Time Xpresso 10 that I've bought for replacement of those Mavic pedals

@rodcosta2345 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always mate!

@cunvericht 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Luke, great detail with your trademark style. Looking forward to the gravel build, curious about the braking set up

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chuck!!!

@targaW3007 2 жыл бұрын

One of you best video. Thank you very much for your work

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks targa, really appreciate it!!!

@mariconor242 2 жыл бұрын

Great timing for the new elite wheels, it’s because of your review last year that my brother, dad and myself bought the same ones. I’m looking at a new set for another bike so hopefully you’ll have a tasty discount for us 👍

@TheAnimejosh 2 жыл бұрын

Another great one luke, hope you make it big this year!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!!! Yeah me too :)

@iamalexfranz 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Luke! Would be cool if you could take the time to make a "best of" kind of video i.e. which parts you think are really worth buying and have decent quality. For example, I got one of the saddles you mentioned in one of your videos and I'm super happy about it. Thanks for your great content, you rock!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah great suggestion actually. I'll stick it in the 'Episode ideas' doc 😉

@gavinrogers1968 2 жыл бұрын

Another informative and detailed video from you ,keep up the good work .

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Gavin, glad you liked it!

@andyleatherbarrow7322 2 жыл бұрын

Luke, as always, brilliant.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Andy!!! Glad you liked it

@Clyde__Frog 2 жыл бұрын

Nice vid er, Luke as always. Cant wait for the gravel bike!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Clyde Frog!!!! Yeah im really excited to get it built!!!

@mrT-gx5bq 2 жыл бұрын

Again a superb video with a great technical background and great eye for detail. Hope you get to 100k Subscribers in the next mpnths. Just left a comment for the algorithmus :)

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

MY MAN!!! 👊😎

@mrT-gx5bq 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo Looking forwward to ypur upcoming videos. you are really delpoying the content like crazy this year. Keep the good work up and i think we all see the great effort you are putting in. Thank you a million times for that :)

@_xnk7257 2 жыл бұрын

thanks, as usual, Luke.

@stuffonthepark 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the gravel bike build! Been looking to get some upgrades for mine so would be great to see where I can cut some costs 😉. If you live around Oxford you should sign up for the 'OxDuro' race this summer to put the components through their paces!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah im really excited to get the gravel bike build together! But yeah I'll def have a look into that OxDuro, thanks for the tip!!

@aszel 2 жыл бұрын

...and as always I hit the like button before even watching the video because... well, excellent content ahead. Beautiful pullover btw

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

My man! 🙏

@EagerEggplant Жыл бұрын

You have the best intros

@MoreBoingPlox 2 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video Luke. I’d love for you to explore the world of bike lights!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks Anthony! Yeah this is definitely on my list. But while you wait, my absolute favourite bike light is the Navi800 from Enfitnix. I picked it up on AliExpress for £25... It's amazing!

@MoreBoingPlox 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo thanks for the huge tip! It’s about to turn darker here in Australia and I’ve been a mess looking at lights

@1sigmabikes 2 жыл бұрын

Really, really looking forward to your review of the Drive wheels!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I cannot wait to get my hands on them!!!

@1sigmabikes 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo mine will be in tomorrow!

@montanajones8393 2 жыл бұрын

I recall that Joe of China Cycling interviewed Mr Costelo at the China Bike Show. Apparently the real deal & a major player. I guess if its good enough for his team to use...however bike teams always throw away & replace stuff as it wears out doesn't apply to the home user though. Elvis has left the building 🤣 Oh another great video & looking forward to the next one already.

@brygry 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a Costelo Supersonic road bike back in 2019. I think this predates Trifox, but it's exactly the same Trifox frame that has been reviewed by several KZfaq bike reviewers. It was utterly fantastic; light and rigid, an excellent machine to cover the miles. It had a few little bits that weren't perfect, but nothing that would hinder the everyday user.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Ok nice, thanks for the comment Bryce! Yeah i have heard a few good things about Costelo frames tbh... Maybe they are worth a look....

@brygry 2 жыл бұрын

Before the current BMC copy that you show in the video they had a Speedmachine model that I have always wanted but never obtained. Instead I have been buying 2nd hand western frames and building those up.

@imadogsass6717 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, hopefully manufacturers who are confident will be open to supplying their product gratis to compare to knockoffs.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ima, glad you liked the video 😀

@m3t4lslug 2 жыл бұрын

You're correct, I bought a pair and the axle that holds the tension spring cracked and broke. When it did, I noticed wear in several other parts of that pedal most of which you mentioned in your video. It would just be a matter of time till it failed in other areas if that spring axle didn't fail first. Lasted me less than 2 months of regular riding.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm, yeah I'll be interested to see how long my set last, after reading this, I'll def keep a close eye on them!

@stevenkendall8892 2 жыл бұрын

A few years ago I had a pair of genuine Time Xpresso pedals purchased from Merlin cycles. When I took them apart to service them one pedal had needle roller bearing, the other pedal had a bushing, just like the one in your Costello knock off. I replaced the bushing with a needle roller bearing.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Very odd... Good you got.it replace though!

@MediumHalf 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see you're going with a color other than plain black on your gravel bike (and a nice color at that) 😉

@simonwarren4363 Жыл бұрын

Now I know why mine are making such a noise. THANKS for this. Oh I also now know why they were such a good price. Fully TIME branded. I will try and fix them with bearings.

@96golfcl 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see what you have to say about those shoes. From the video they look pretty good

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

So they are pretty good, but they are quite expensive aswell, with import duties they were around £80 actually.... plus the included insole is dreadful.

@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo Yes, they cost GBP 80 but they have full carbon fiber outsoles. Where you can get shoes with 100% carbon soles for less than that?

@theguzziman 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing the gravel adventure begin

@hucklejoko4838 2 жыл бұрын

The John Smith (the one with Delileah bike) made a video about pedals and as to why you should get the cheap ali express knock off ones, I got myself a Promend branded SPD -SL ones at I already clocked in 5,000 KMs since September of last year and I still have no issues with them. It costed me $20 and it is a complete steal for what it is, that said I might check out this Costelo pedals if I grow bored of the SPD-SL mechanism. The same guy also recommended that the Costelo Vento Bartapes feel the same with the legit Fizik Vento. Might also be worth checking it out.

@chriswatson2769 2 жыл бұрын

Yet another banger video

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Chris!!!

@boyacki 2 жыл бұрын

so insightful and very interesting to see what these counterfeiters are up to!! Shwalb...never knew that and i also called it something else...>.> great funnys going on!! :D thank you for the depth of detail and analysis as i was going to get a set but with your help, i think i will avoid a counterfeit!

@reinholdachleitner2069 2 жыл бұрын

Mine have the groove in the left.Thanks for the detail.👍👌

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

No problem Reinhold, glad you got some genuine pedals!!!

@daryltill70 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Luke love the channel you’re a natural I would love you to do a integrated bar and stem install 😁👍

@pscoop 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. It would awesome to do a similar teardown comparison of the "Chinaplay" and the official Wahoo Speedplay. My Aliexpress titanium ones have got 1500+ miles on them and still going strong so seem pretty well built (thanks for your previous review video).

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's a pretty good suggestion tbh... Would be an interesting comparision for sure!

@user-uy9qj6vs3f 2 жыл бұрын

That would be fantastic to see ☺️

@glennicol1361 2 жыл бұрын

Super looking forward to the gravel bike as want get one myself... From the picture you posted in the video it looks like an Ican frame... I just got Ican 38mm wheels... They really nice and feel great to ride on!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah good spot! It's an Ican frame. Really excited to try it out!

@glennicol1361 2 жыл бұрын

It is the same frame I want to buy so looking forward to the video!

@lawrenceokane1678 2 жыл бұрын

The presentation always raises a smile. Watched the whole video even though I have never and will never use clipless pedals of any type.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks Lawrence, glad you liked it!!!

@not-a-raccoon 2 жыл бұрын

Been here since the beginning, and I look forward to each and every video. Well.. except that one video. But we don't talk about that. *Cough*. ANYWAY.. I'm running speedplay pedals currently, and love them. I've been thinking hard about giving the titanium China Play pedals a sniff. I just love the float and the massive cleat cover that you have to push off from with that particular platform.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would probably give them a go. If you run speedplays currently, then they are basically the same. I think the cleats are also interchangable between them

@rayg9709 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome videos! Very helpful and informative. Can you do a review on oval chainrings?

@SgtFinaldo 2 жыл бұрын

In depth. Great investigation SherLuke Holmes. We are waiting on your SRoad Cassette review!!!!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah i need to get a few more miles on the cassette before I can really test the quality, but TBH if you are thinking of getting one, just go for it. From what i have seen so far, they are pretty freaking amazing for the price!

@SgtFinaldo 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo Good to hear. With supply issues, getting a SRAM or Shimano equivalent has been expensive. Wouldn't mind dropping some extra €€€ for a lightweight cassette that has similar longevity. My only concern would be indexing or gear slip.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

@@SgtFinaldo No issues with either on my SRoad cassette. I've never run Dura-Ace or Sram Red cassettes, but the SRoad one is easily as good as my 105 R7000 cassette...

@SgtFinaldo 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo Seems the business. I wanted to avoid the Aluminium spider ones you reviewed a few months back. This steel based one seems the business.

@MarkoMarjanovicKackavaljer 2 жыл бұрын

Good one... cant wait to see your comments on those shoes :)

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Coming soon Marko!!

@thejuampi 9 ай бұрын

I have ordered the 10 pcs of 8x12x3.5mm bearings. Thanks for the info!

@JorgeOrtin-bj2el 7 ай бұрын

link please? and how did yo put them in the pedals?

@apagunaberlari2929 2 жыл бұрын

as always good information content

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Apa!

@FeedEX40 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that braking system is something like a giant conduct or something even more obscure. Great video as always!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

HA, spot on! Yeah im really excited to give it a go, could be absolute trash, I mean the reviews are awful and Giant didnt sell it for very long... But it's so wierd, i have to try it!

@danielhertercasagrande1686 2 жыл бұрын

i have no experience with Time Pedals but my late friend Rolf Rost had these. Rolf was mechanic of the Swiss National Team when Wolfram Lindner was national trainer. I had problems with SPD pedals and Rolf fixed it - he told me that these problems are frequent except for Time Pedals after watching Hambini I think Time is a brand that is underestimated they are quality nerds

@reinholdachleitner2069 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome review and Comparison and I'm definitely sure they're made in Asia the Costelo's but a faultless copy in looks.Safe riding.💯💯✌👌

@kfirlavi7674 2 жыл бұрын

you are on your way to be the next clarkson ;-)

@peterilham1732 2 жыл бұрын

I'm using Costelo frameset, so far so good

@donaldrieger381 2 жыл бұрын

Once the Costelo pedals bearings/bushings wear out, it would be interesting to compare life if you replace them with sealed cartridge & needle bearings.

@manitoublack 2 жыл бұрын

After this video sparked my curiosity and an annoying squeak that developed last week. I pulled apart my 6 year old (purchased in Feb-2017) Xpresso 12's. Only to discover (to my surprise.) that they are knockoffs... But 6-years of flawless service, that's not bad (up until last week, no slop, no play, no noise at all from the rotating assembly.) And I've swapped in known OEM parts ordered direct from the Time dealer in Australia (cleats and strike plates) that work perfectly. After a clean and some new NTN bearings, expecting them to go another 6+ years and +30,000kms.

@msjj000 2 жыл бұрын

I’d go the Time pedals every time!

@evosportychop8332 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the upcoming reviews. As far as Costelo building a cycling team what better way to showcase the quality and durability of their products. By knocking off top name brands and branding them Castelo of course.

@sebastianm2381 2 жыл бұрын

I've been using three different generations of Time pedals - currently I'm on the Xpro 12 pedals. I can vouch for the longevity of the axle design. It's been unchanged for ages. None of them ever failed on me. They do develop a tiny bit of axial play but that's it. The Xpresso were actually the best value for money ever. Too bad they're discontinued. The open design means that you can stomp on the wrong side of the pedal and break the carbon spring. Happened to me once. It's very unlikely. However, I do think that the closed bottom on the Xpro series is an improvement for that reason. Of course they say it's more aero as well ;).

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah after trying these, I'd really love to give the XPRO ones a go!

@perrybizyk2596 Жыл бұрын

Were you able to find a replacement spring (carbon plate)? Just happened to me

@sebastianm2381 Жыл бұрын

@@perrybizyk2596 No. I upgraded to the Xpro pedals when it happened to me. I don’t think a replacement spring exists.

@jamesc4012 2 жыл бұрын

Saw those in a recent video and wondered what they were!

@dcv9460 2 жыл бұрын

AWESOME Content!!! ✔️

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers DCV!

@joshuabuilds3051 2 жыл бұрын

Raceface chester pedals use one shielded bearing and a white nylon bushing as well.

@misterscagnetti Жыл бұрын

I swear by the real thing, Time know how to make a pedal 🇫🇷

@dirkhunt9425 2 жыл бұрын

I used to ride TIME pedals and they were easy in/out. the White plastic is probably Durlon (harder nylon) and is used in several pedals including Crank Brothers platform pedals. The RS bearings are cheep and I would replace the shielded ones as (in your video) your pedal starts moving side to side. Durlon is cheaper but probably not as bad as you would think. But please replace the shielded bearings before a catastrophic failure. You can get the bearing number off of the shielded bearing or the RS one in the OG Time pedal. Thanks for the reviews and always entertaining! Completely unrelated and a definite blast from the past about the RLX Carbon Bottle cages... not recommended on seat tube on my gravel bike, The force of a hard knock was just too much for the tab at the bottom, no problems on my road bike though.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dirk! Yeah I think the shielded bearings def need to be replaced! I very got the bearing size, and they are only a few quid, so def worth doing!!!

@oheso 2 жыл бұрын

The logical complement to Abbot cycling shoes!

@BestKiteboardingOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

The red is polyurea grease, and the green stuff is the castrol grease that shimano use.

@123huskieman 2 жыл бұрын

thanks luke!!!

@kelvinauhk1 Жыл бұрын

I've been using time pedal for more than 10 years and I do really love it. Just curious why not so many people using it

@jonhh6918 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Time Xpresso pedals and cleats. I tried other brands and it never felt as good and as natural before I tried those.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. Clipless pedals are such a personal thing. I think i probably prefer Look keo, but with the iclic system I can see why people like them

@jonhh6918 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo Great videos by the way. Always enjoy your reviews and your jokes.

@manitoublack 2 жыл бұрын

UPDATE: The fakes are good, really, really good (at least mine are,) at mimicking the real deal. Just pulled them apart after 6-years for the first time. And to my surprise... Just checked my Xpresso 12 pedals. Had them since 2017. No groove on the left pedal. But do have the left hand (*indicated*) thread on the drive side pedal. Regards Jordan

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Really OK, maybe the groove in the axle is a more recent addition.... 🤔

@manitoublack 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo UPDATE: After 6 years I finally decided to pull my Xpresso 12's apart, partly because of this video (curiosity) and the left pedal was making a noise (thought it was the cleat, but replaced that and still the noise. Turns out. After 6 years and countless kilometres (easily +30,000kms, possibly nearer 40,000,) my pedals are indeed fakes. I should also note that I regularly swap them between bikes and have had no issues wit the Ti axle thread,; looks as good today as it did 6-years ago. While the axle screw has indications for different threads, both have a standard Right-Hand thread. Inside were the metal shielded 6801 bearings and nylon sleeve. I've replaced the bearings with NTN 6801LU double contact rubber seal bearings and re-greased with my favourite bentonite clay high temp bearings grease. Obviously they were spotless before re-assembly. What's wild is just how good the fakes are... (or at least mine have been.) I always use OEM Time cleats from my local bike shop. I've even had them special order in new strike plates on a couple of occasions as they've worn out. All fit and work perfectly. While its 6 years ago now (paypal receipt dates Feb-17, 2017,) I kind of recall that the packaging was excellent and gave no indication that they were fakes, had a manual and all. Even though they are fake :(, they have performed flawlessly for 6 years. No slop in the bearing, not play in the sleeve. And the bearing lasted 6-years!!! (Also live in Australia and very rarely ride in the wet.) Thanks for the excellent video. Learnt alot. At least I know my Time VXRS frame is genuine, and while the pedals are knock-off's, they sure don't look like it. Jordan

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

OK nice, well then maybe my costelo set will last after all... I just assumed the nylon bearing would only last a few hundred kilometres, but clearly you can get some decent mileage out of these pedals. It probably helps that you are in OZ, so get some nice dry sunny weather, but regardless, 30,000km plus is freaking impressive. Thanks for the update dude!!!!

@Ghostina1 2 жыл бұрын

Thats why i use simple SPD Pedals on my Roadbike! Great Video. Love this Channel! What vor a shoe rain cover are u using?

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know alot of people swear by SPD on road bikes. But the shoe covers are from AliExpress again, the brand name is Giro. I've had quite alot of their stuff in the past, seems pretty decent.

@negzak 2 жыл бұрын

Merci pour cette comparaison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Tantewillieja 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! Are you using the same carbon saddle on both bikes? I'm really interested in those, maybe a long term review?

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah so its a slightly different carbon saddle on both bikes. They are both pretty good tho, as long as you have some decent bib shorts :P

@edpilling4955 2 жыл бұрын

Great detective work Luke! I'll give them a miss! Ordered some Elita One bars, hope they are not crap!

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ed! I've not used the elita bars before, but fingers crossed you got a good set 🤞

@darrengarvie8832 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent video. Just to ask what tyres do us use maybe a video for tyres would be fun to do 😁

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Darren! So yeah for the last 2 years i've been a tubeless snob, so most of the tyres i've tried are just name brand. The schwalbe are a pretty safe bet IMO!

@darrengarvie8832 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo tubeless I'd need to change I'm still old school 🤣 schwalbe are good I used them for winter the durnos probably a good commuter tyre too.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrengarvie8832 Yeah i think i need to get back on some clinchers and have a look into the cheap TPU inner tubes that are cropping up on AliExpress. Much lighter than standard rubber tubes, and apparently more durable aswell....

@joshualontoc1048 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this another review and comparison. I noticed your Senicx Crankset. How's your experience using it? Hope you'll have a review about it.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the crank has been great. Not much to say about it really, which is a testament to the fact it has been pretty flawless!

@a6o932 2 жыл бұрын

We miss you Luke!

@littlevo9 2 жыл бұрын

i have the exustar in titanium version,188gr per pair,they are just perfect i recommand this!

@sepg5084 2 жыл бұрын

The RS bearings can easily be acquired, the L and R etching are actually easier to understand, but knock-off quality is usually hit and miss plus not using the needle bearings suck. They could've modified their design a bit to use ball bearings instead of needle bearings, which would improve the quality and improve repairability since ball bearings are easy to acquire. but i guess knock-off manufacturers can't be bothered with that 🙂 using titanium and carbon fiber but not bothering to use proper bearings ☠️

@robinjamieson1765 2 жыл бұрын

I has wellgo pedals with du 'nylon' bushings - absolute rubbish, 3 pairs dead within 1000 miles. Seems this pedal would be good except for that - all to save a £5 a pair

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah im with you on this one, it was really close to being a great pedal... But that nylon bushing really lets it down!

@svgs650r 2 жыл бұрын

@ Sep G You’ve misspelled “thieves”

@user-sy1md6jm5b 2 жыл бұрын

you should review the carbon ti rotors

@stefanobellote 2 жыл бұрын

The analysis is interesting and valid for a lot of chinese products.. it can look good from the outside, but will probably lack on durability and maintenance.. but Costelo is kinda good, I have a Vento bartape knockoff which is holding well after 5kkm, and a G8 2620 insole copy which is possibly one of the best purchases I made.. going strong 1.5yrs, solved some foot issues I was having, it's probably better than most competitors, and of course is not durable as the G8, but it's like 10% of the cost so.... I was going to ask about the Sidebike shoe, always been intrigued by those.. good to know a review is on the way! haha

@hucklejoko4838 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried reusing the costelo bartapes or you never had to take them off when recabling? I want to try a bartape that will last me for long, I have already used 3 different kinds but the best so far is the one that costed me the least.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i have heard a few good things about Costelo frames too, i mean maybe i'll check one out in the future... As for the shoes, they are pretty good, what i would say tho, the insoles that are included are absolute trash...

@stefanobellote 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo seems like a good opportunity to test those G8 2620 knockouts I mentioned.. arch options help a lot and they're pretty supportive overall

@stefanobellote 2 жыл бұрын

@@hucklejoko4838 hmm not yet, I've installed it and it remains in place, without significant wear in all that time, that's all I can say... The adhesive seems strong tho, so I'd say to take them off would tear the tape apart :(

@victormanuelperezgutierrez2095 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to the G8 2620 insole copy.

@123huskieman 2 жыл бұрын

luke, you’ve gotta try Hylix seatpost and Risk link cables

@jeffreycohen8511 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, really enjoy your channel. Just curious, why the switch from the ‘Chinaplay’?

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

So I've ridden the chinaplays for the last 18 months, and they still work great. The pedal body is a little worn by now, but yeah just to try something new tbh. I might do a quick followup video on the chinaplays at some point...

@hisdadjames4876 2 жыл бұрын

Those Costelo pedals may indeed prove to be less durable, but remember that you could afford to replace them THREE times before You’d be out of pocket versus the Time pedals🤷‍♂️

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Very true, but I would still not recommend them unless you are planning to replace the bearings. Ultimately 60 quid is a decent budget for pedals. There are definitely better choices out there!

@hisdadjames4876 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo Thanks, Luke. Anyway, Im really after Shimano compatible pedals for my winter bike, so I don’t have to have two sets of cleats/shoes. (My summer bike sports pukka Ultegra pedals). Know youre busy, but I would welcome any good value alternative recommendations. 🤞

@znicho 2 жыл бұрын

I've been using the Zeray ZP-110s (1:17) which are a Look Keo knock-off and have been super happy with them. Better than Look's entry-level Keo Classics and on par with their mid-range pedals. Picked them up for £20-25, and so happy with them got another pair to replace my worn Look Keo 2 Max pedals for a third of the price.

@TraceVelo 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm might have to check those out 🤔

@znicho 2 жыл бұрын

@@TraceVelo I've not checked them out in detail as you have. Just chucked them on the bike and off I went. No idea about longevity but have used for about 2000km over winter with no issues so far. But even if they only last for half the time as Look pedal, then I'm ahead.