I definitely love my 265/70r17 tires. No rubbing and no fuel loss. I just purchased Method 316 rims with 0 offset. Cannot wait for them to come in and get them on my Taco. Fell in love with Method rims after I saw them on your truck, thank you 👍😁

The 33s (285) are better if you want an extra inch of ground clearance for getting over off-road obstacles so the diff isn't scraping or getting hung up. The guys at 4WD 24-7 have a video called "31 v 33 v 35 inch Tyre Mega Test" and determined that 33s are perfect for a mid-sized truck and 35s are perfect for a full-sized truck. Getting maximum fuel mileage is fine for a street truck but with a 4x4 the priority is performance and puncture resistance. You can still get "good" gas mileage with the 6-cylinder because it isn't a gas-guzzling V8, and 33 inch (285) tires are not a huge increase in size over a 31 (265).

literally one of the most informative tacoma content creators. all my of questions were answered in one video. i knew it was good subbing to you when i got my tacoma

One of the things I love about Chloe's takes is that they are always well reasoned so that even if you personally don't agree based on your own usage it completely makes sense why she did it and it gives a blueprint for others.

After doing some physics (approx. I = mr^2) the larger tires require 20-25% more torque to accelerate or decelerate when compared to the smaller tires. Which will also change when you add the wheels. That’s seems kinda significant though

When installing a tire to a vehicle that’s jack up , not too high from the ground. I learned you can put a long pry bar or extension under it to lift it up, it’s much easier than crunching over and lifting it or seating down. I learned that from truckers videos when they install those massive semi’s tire that are heavy af. It saves your back 👍

Awesome video Chloe. For now I went with 265 KO2's because I didn't want to do a lift right off the bat. I'd imagine in the future I may go 275 C-load tires or 285s. It's really hard to decide and from what I understand if you want to be able to use all 6 gears you'll need a re-gear and that's not cheap. Also, if you don't mind this coming a tiny bit early... it frickin' rocks you're about to cross 100k subs! No one deserves it more.

have you thought about going with 275/70/17's .. i have them on my 2nd gen . i downsized from the 285's and the rubbing issues went away.. have a decent lift (running Bilstein 6100, add a leaf for the rear, coilovers) about 2" lift . this set up works good for me. and i went with the 285's on my GX. since i use the tacoma as a daily, it hasn't killed my mileage and it's still fun to run easier off road trails . if your choice is between the 285's and 265's i'd go 285. but if you can, pick the 275's and have fun with them

Another great and informative video Chloe. I run 265/70 R17 Trail Grapplers on Forerunner TRD wheels. I considered going to 285’s but was told by many people that there would likely be rubbing at full turn and articulation. Not to mention requiring a BMC. I do have +/- 3” lift but didn’t want the potential hassle. I agree with many that 285’s would look great, but then again so would 35’s. One mod usually leads to the next.

Fun fact about about the BF goodrich they are on the smaller end in the same size as other brands. I found this out after putting them side by side a lot of brands. My toyo AT 2 Xtreme im running now in 35inch vs the 35 ko2 happens to be bigger

I just went up to 285/75R16 Ridge Grapplers and it gives my 2020 Tacoma such a beefier profile. I did 3”/1” Pro Comp Leveling Kit, the gas mileage is not as good but the look I was going for is completely worth it. I’m so glad that I stayed with the 16” wheel, all the rubber just looks outstanding in my opinion.

Hello everyone. Reminder: "285 is not the tire/size or diameter=Important detail in the size of a tire/wheel in a car." Meaning of 285=Width of the tire in mm, the part that touches the road surface. It's possible to have a small or large diameter tire in width as follows: 285, 275, 265, 255, 235(mm) in different wheel sizes: 16", 17", 18", 30", etc... Diameter=Tire size=28", 29", 30", 31", 32", 33", 35", 49", etc...

I think the 265 tires are great for people that don’t lift their trucks. If you’re already lifted it just makes sense to go up a size. Just keep off-roading and upgrade what you need as you go. I went rear bumper first after breaking, sliders after the predator steps broke, 3in lift/level stock control arms and then 285/75/R16s. I have a 19 OR 6MT, the factory lower gearing helps turn my 285s better than the autos. If you’re planning on re gearing then go as big as you want! My current setup is the rough country 3in struts (front) and blocks/shocks (rear), stock control arms and leaf springs, 285/75/r16 Yokohama Geolander MTs, and 1.5in spidertrax hub centric wheel spacers. With my alignment set at 1.5 degrees of caster and removing mudflaps I do NOT rub at all! Full tuck and full steering lock she moves freely! Currently sitting at around 15/16mpgs at 40psi and a soft topper over the bed. My next upgrade will probably be the method bead grip wheels and get the correct offset to ditch the spacers. If you get MTs I highly recommend the geolanders! But I think next time around I’m going to try out the wild peaks and see how they do. Hopefully with the less aggressive tread I’ll get back a few MPGs or even one will make me happy. I think we are all hoping you go with the 285s! You’re already lifted with a better setup than a few of us, I’m sure you’ll love it and never go back!

I went with 265/75/16. Gave me a little more height than stock. Will not compromise as much gas mileage, although, it will still suffer some.

Hello. I really appreciate your content. I think there is one minor error that might hang people up. You mentioned that the 265 is the stock tire size on a 3rd gen Tacoma. But you end up needing wheel size and the ratio number to get to the diameter. The 265/70R17 that you are talking about is 31.6" in diameter. My stock 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road came with 265/70R16 (not 17) so it is a 30.6" diameter tire.

Hi, my Tacoma trd offroad (2019) come with 265/70R16 , I buy one years use, and I change for 265/75 R16 just a little bit more high profile and I m very Happy. Before the Tacoma , I run FJ CRUISER 2011 for 10 years with 285/70 R17 with the FJ CRUISER, not problem to fit , you have more space for big tire... with stock suspension, I don't have the stock suspension on the FJ but they fit . For the Tacoma I m gonna put the ARB HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION WITH THE ARB ARM control, but I m gonna stay with the 265/75R16.... this size are easier for the mechanic, for all the moving parts and for the millage ( I m Canadian gaz are way more expensive) . And this profile 75 are good for offroad, I run FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W 10 ply, I like a lot we have a lot of Snow in my area and they are great. Thank for you r video, you have a great KZfaq channel

I actually have been pretty impressed with the 265 stock Wranglers. When it comes time to replace though I'll likely get Toyo AT3's or Wildpeaks in 275. I mostly take forest roads and some snow here in the PNW , no mudding for me.

I have 265 KO2's on my 4Runner. And I agree, in the rain, it is definitely not a good grip for the road. I slide a lot, and have to be very careful when taking turns. I also think my 265's are probably too small for the lift I have, and if I could afford the 285's, I would probably do those or 305's

Bigger looks better with a lift and considering you do a fair amount of off-roading I’d say 285. I went with KO2 at 265/75/16 and think it’s perfect for stock.

Depends on what you do with the truck. For off-road I always want the biggest tire that will fit under the truck. Bigger tires let you air down more and make big holes feel smaller. Doesn’t do you much good if you have giant tires that you can’t turn though. Went from 33’s to 35’s on my Silverado and the 35’s feel way better all around. Smooths out the small chop and take big hits better too.

265’s are your most economical smartest choice for off-road with your stock lift truck. 285’s pros: longer and wider footprint so better traction with slightly more ground clearance, looks cooler! Cons: heavier tire increases stopping distance, decreased fuel economy and robs power.

If you get tired of the ko2’s give the nitto ridge grapplers a try. They’re super quiet on the highway and have great traction Offroad. I always try to fit the largest tire with the least amount of lift

I just put 4 Toyo 265/70/17’s on my 2012 FJB Edition FJ Cruiser. Love them!! 😉 I would say that once you had the Toyos on your truck you will change your mind about the KO2’s!

I went with Cooper STT PRO 265/75/16 on my Tacoma TRD PRO. 3,200 miles cross country on 285's was very expensive. They looked great but switched to 265.

On my 2016 taco I put 275/75/18 on my stock truck, no rubbing anywhere after about a week I finally did my 3” leveling kit

Great video! In my opinion gears ARE DEFINITELY required for 285’s if you don’t want the truck to be gutless. If you regear there’s no reason to go 285’s… just go to 315’s. A small 35 is perfect for the 3rd gen.

Funny, I just bought a brand new 2023 Tacoma TRD Off-Road last Friday and was stuck on this very same question. So I went to one of our local off-road shops out here in Albuquerque called "Desert Rat" and lucky for me, they were pretty knowledgeable on this. They said that mods were necessary for 285's and so what I did is I went with some Bilstein 5100 series shocks, Maxtrac 2.5 spacer kit, and some 265/75/R16 Toyo MT's and some aluminum aftermarket wheels. The new shocks will be more plush, allow me to level the vehicle while raising it just slightly, and the 265/75's will fit beautifully. It will be around 2.5-3 inches higher which will give me some decent gains in off-road capabilities but I won't really be sacrificing much in terms of power, on-road comfort, or gas mileage. I went with Toyo MT's because that's what I've been running on my FJ Cruiser (295's) since I bought it in 08. I get 55 thousand miles on them, they do great in all types of terrains, and even though they are MT's, they are radials and balance well. Great videos, keep em coming.

Love the K02's. I ran them for years off road, on road, and anywhere in between. Never had a puncture, never got stuck, and they are really good for low road noise. Great choice!

I went to 285/70 17 Ridge Grappler from the stock 265/ 70 16 and lost 5 mpg. My 17’s weighed 83 lbs where the stock 16’s weighed 46 lbs. The 285 on 16’s seems like a good compromise. Getting in and out is a bit harder of course with the 2 inch lift I got also.

I run 255/80/R17. 33s but don't need any lift or trimming to fit them. Skinnier tires also do better in the snow.

Oh I already know what your going with. My answer is 285/70/17 right! 😂 I knew it. You’ve already rocked the 265’s there’s zero reason to go that route again. You’re not worried about fuel consumption we all already know that. It’s nice but not the decision maker. You’ve already put a ton of $$ into your baby so a few more bucks isn’t going to stop you from the look you love. Also the functionality off road most definitely helps you make this decision. So thanks for your videos and sharing your love with us. Besides San Diego is beauty but we all know Chula Vista and other surrounding communities don’t have the best roads. I know I’m in California too. Now Florida… they got some beautiful roads. Ok thanks again! I know I’m right. Hahaaa My two sons both have Tacoma’s!

I’ve had all 3 gens. My 1st gen ended up on 1 tons and 37s. Moved on from the Tacoma to an F150. Live in the salt belt and the aluminum body was a major selling point. Miss my tacos tho. I think the gas milage thing is a little over hyped. Never paid attention on my tacomas but I lost 1mpg on my F150 going from 265/70/17 and highway tires to a 295/70/17 mud tire. That ends up being about a lose of 25 miles per tank. 3 tanks a month even at $5 a gallon only ends up being $25 a month. Worth it for what I gain in looks alone.

275/70/17 with those rims look great! also the 5th tire fits in the spare slot under the bed!

Don't forget that the roads in California are always super slick during the rain season because of all the oil & stuff that accumulates during the rest of the dry season. There really isn't going to be any general purpose / AT tire suitable for that situation. Just have to drive slower and be a lot more cautious.

I run the 265 ridge grapplers on my sport 4x4. The reason i chose both the sport and these tires is I don't do a whole lot of off road stuff. I'll ride in some grass and mud taking the dogs to the park and a few times a year go through some mountain trails to get to some cabins, but 98 percent of what i do is regular driving. The grapplers have performed well in Ice, snow, mountains and soft grass so far. I've not really tested them past this. They do pretty good in heavy rain puddles. I've heard people complain about their ability in rain but i haven't had any issues yet and i live in a place it rains a lot. I've been pleased with both the truck and tires/tire size. Plus the these tires give it a great look. I will probably do the same again when they need to be changed.

I just got these 285/70/17 ko2 on my 2021 ranger last week. Absolutely love them. Definitely a huge upgrade over stock tires especially in snowy, slushy Utah. They are definitely not cheap but absolutely worth every penny. Great vid!

Chloe I have to respectfully disagree with the KO2s. I have now run two sets of Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my 18 TRD Sport. This set is on 70k. My truck has a total of 217,000 miles and I drive Uber part time. The Nittos are 265/70/17. They are the 10 ply version and have had no chunking or cracking. Yes, they are getting close to needing to be replaced… but since they are rated for 60k and I have beat that… The fuel economy drops by about 2 MPH with these… but in Georgia where it is so wet.,, the wet weather traction makes the $1000-$1200 installed price worth every penny.

Like your videos. If you're into offroading, then go with the 285's and regear to a 5.29. You'll appreciate getting the power back after putting the 285's on, pick up 1 - 1.5mpg and your truck won't be screaming at you going uphills trying to find a gear.

I run 285 Toyo RT tires. I have had great results running Toyos, they are heavy but I hats what makes them so durable!

Tires seem to be a compromise. On my '17 Tacoma, I went from the stock Goodyear kevlars to Goodyear Duratracs, and stayed with the stock size 265/70x16. I probably lost 1mpg due to weight increase, but only ~40 lbs/tire from ~37 lbs. I'll likely go back to a lighter weight tire next time although my Duratracs have performed well off-road and in snow. I can't fore see going to a 50# K02. Good video btw. On my '03 Tacoma, the 40# Duractracs seem to be my limit for what the older lower powered '03 can acceptable-to-me drive/power/accelerate.

I have a 2020 TRD Off Road Tacoma, and I just put some KO2s on it. I went with 285/75 R16 because I love my stock wheels, but I wanted the 33" tires. I upgraded to a 3"/2" leveling kit for clearance and don't have any rubbing on body components. I am getting a bit of rub at full lock on the A arm, so I picked up some 1" wheel spacers. That should give me clearance from the suspension, and still keep me clear of the body at full lock. The 33s look amazing on the truck!!

Just recently went with 255/75R17 KO2s on my 07 taco, would’ve gone with 255/80 but they don’t make the KO2 in that size and I get big discounts on BFG tires. I really wish they made the KO2 in a 33x10 or 33x10.5

Hi Chloe, I’m using the Falken Wildpeak 65/17 Tires I really like these tires. They handle very well.

I've had both. The on road performance/fuel mileage is much better with the 265/75 R16 than the 285 and don't rub like the 285. Not much difference in off-road performance. About an inch of clearance.

You should also consider being about to carry around a full size spare. Will the 285 still fit under the bed? Or will you have to relocate the spare to the bed itself?

The aspect ratio is another important part of the numbers in the tire size. A 265/75 is taller (larger diameter) than a 265/70. Another popular size for the Tacoma is the 255/85/16. It’s as tall as the 285/75 but not as wide.

I installed the Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtreme 265 70 17 with new 17 inch wheels on my TRD off Road. The issue going to the 17 is that it is like changing the gearing, making the truck shift more than when stock. Next time I am going with a 265 65 17, which will bring it back to a stock size while still using the 17 inch wheels. I have had KO2's before, but the Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtreme are much quieter.

8:32 Running 4wd in the rain says it all. The new KO2 features a hard rubber that wears longer, but isn't worth a lick on wet pavement. They're a popular choice in the more arid, western states. I'm running Wildpeak AT3's in 255/80/r17. They're great in rain, snow, & hold their own off road. They're taller than 285's & weigh 52.5 lbs in load range E. No loss of power in my 6MT Nissan Frontier.

so, i am currently on my second set of the BFG KO2 tires. i have a 3in lift in the front and somewhere close to 3.5 in the back. i ran 285/75/r16 tires (E Load) with a 1 inch wheel spacer. i had to do the pinch weld mod, and a cab mount chop and it still rubbed. that said, i loved them. granted i had a 15 minute commute to and from work. i regeared with nitro 4:88 gears and it felt like a different truck. it mitigated the loss in power and actually gave me some of my mileage back that i lost. once i changed jobs and, my 15 minute commute went to a 45-50 minute commute, i had to change them. like my fuel economy dropped drastically. i tried out the General Grabbers and while they were a decent tire, i had a front upper ball joint go and it ruined my tires. i went back to the 265s and im glad i did. i ran my 285's for about 70+ thousand miles and i never had an issue with them.

I have a 22 Taco oR I would Stick with the 265 way less rolling resistance i out ran a guy with his 285 lifted Taco truck 😂 Going steep uphill the 265 really shine 😊

Kenda Klever RT is my favorite tire so far. I’ve ran BFG ko2, TOYO mt, and Kenda mt2.

A droop setup on Tacoma’s is the way to go. Extended travel setup that lets the wheels hang down more with minimal lift (1”-1.5”). This let’s you keep the center of gravity low while being able to get over the same obstacles.

don't go too big unless you have adequate lift and bumper, 285's will fit with no issues on your rig. I have 2.5 lift , plate bumper and cabin mount chop, I got 35's but I don't like them that much, they look great but not fun busting a U or making sharp turns (think about them drivethru trips) and extra weight = more wear and tear and it adds a decent amount of weight which will make your already crappy mileage even worse I have Maxxis Razr MT they have held up pretty good so far, I have lots of experience running Hankook DynaPro MT's and Toyo Open Country MT and never had an issue with either. If money weren't a factor I would just splurge and go with Toyo Open Country, but for the value and price point I think Hankook DynaPro is where it's at. Tires are one thing I would NEVER go cheap on

I get poor traction w/ KO2 here in the Seattle with my V8 4Runner, I’ve tried BFG, Nitto, falken and Toyos both ATs and MTs. For me the best ones were Toyos AT3s, will try Baja Boss ATs nx time.

I highly recommend getting New Tires to get Balanced and Mounted Professionally. RoadForce Balancing is about $250 for 5 tires. But it makes a big difference in how the truck drives. I have installed my own tires for 15 years and when I did the balancing rims\tires it drastically improved driving and steering performance

I agree. Yeah the 285's look slightly better, but the negatives are too many....MPG goes down 1-2 mpg, potential rubbing issues, cost, etc. Great video, as usual, Chloe! You do a wonderful job with your channel :) I will pick up a 2024 Taco TRD OffRoad Premium very soon. Can't wait to see your new wheels once you pull the trigger!

255/85/16 o' 255/80/17 KM2 . They are the best option , but they are little know , you have to investigate and you will see that they are the best features for your truck , it is the military configuration, they are light , tall but better maneuverable , personally I use them in my all terrain vehicles.

If you don't do any serious off-roading you don't need the 285 tires, especially in a LT as they're too heavy 4 highway use on a midsize vehicle.

Function over form is the way to go. Safety cannot be compromised. I 285 do you look more majestic but it’s gotta be to 265‘s for me.

Best comparison video I've seen🤙🏼

275/70/17 best tire size 32.2 inches !!!

why does the 265 look way bigger pls help me figure this one out

I know nearly nothing about tires and I would still suggest sticking with the 265s. You won't have to mess with change out your rear end gearing and screw with your speedometer. oh, and the gas mileage is a big factor too.

Perhaps Chloe could do a vid of her driving through all the California water with these tires?

Ive got a 2 in lift with 265/70/17 and i love the look!

I have 285 and they shredded the all the plastics under the front wheel wells😆 from off roading

Go for 285’s. The off-road performance and look are great.

Toyota just needs to make 33” tires stock and upgrade the truck to fit and drive well with them! Bigger is better 😄

Should give the new Mickey Thopson Baja Boss A/T a go one of these days. They perform way better in rain/snow than the K02 and have a super aggressive tread pattern for a A/T, looks almost like a M/T.

I would go with the 285 tires, also congrats on almost 100k subs!!

When my factory tires wear out I’m going with Faulken Wildpeaks for the type of terrain that we live in here in the PNW

I’m going to assume 285s are the decision that was made, but my vote is for 265s. Big tires are overrated and offer far more cons than pros, in my opinion at least. Also, in rain you’re better off with 265 than 285. The only thing wider does is make you more likely to hydroplane. Yes, you have more rubber on the ground with 285s but that actually works against you as it creates more surface area for the water to lift you up and hydroplane. The skinnier tire cuts down to the road better and is more likely to retain traction.

285 and 265 are the WIDTH, in millimeters. The overall diameter is also dependent on the rim size and the profile. Flotation tire sizing is more straightforward than metric.

My Silverado's got 255/70R17 General Grabbers as stock and they're only 32lbs. I was going to go to a 285/75R17 Yokohama A/T tire, but they're 60lbs! I'm pretty sure a 28lb per tire increase would be felt in the gas pedal, handling, and MPG. I want to go bigger, but might settle on a 265 or 275 to save weight. It's a full size truck, so visually it can certainly handle a larger tire.

As long as you don’t have to do a CMC go for it. Otherwise it’s not a small deal to chop your frame as everyone seems to think. And if you have to Lift even more I don’t think it’s worth loosing that downtravel.

285 all the way, i have 275 KO2 on my 2020, looks great, but my next set is definitely 285’s. Good luck❤

Cooper Discoverer AT3 265/75R 16

Went from 265/70/17 LT General Grabber ATx to 285/70/17 E Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT on my 2014 4Runner. I have an OME 3" lift so they fit. I did need to do some trimming on my front inner fender wells and remove the front mud flaps. Other than that they fit fine. The Generals weigh 47 pounds and the Mickey's weigh 63 pounds. I did lose about 2MPG but otherwise they ride and work better particularly off road...

I was tossed also and decided on a 275/70/17 and as someone who’s been a lifer BFG guy I switched to the Falken in a C load range.

265 and 285 is the width in millimeters not height. 2nd number is the height, percent of the width. 285/65R17 is the same height as a 265/70R17, just width is different.

I run the 285's on my 4Runner and it works awesome and looks killer with 2 1/2'' lift.

If I remember you have a 3:1 lift on your Taco. I'd go with the 285's as long as there's no rubbing issues that can't be adjusted by cutting back the frame where needed..

Ugh tough decision. Probably the 265 for gas and driveability (accel.). 275 70 17 might be the best balance Edit: big deal on larger tires, the weight on a smaller (diameter) tire is unsprung weight. Accel and decel is less power required for smaller dia

Chloe - CONGRATULATIONS on hitting 100K!!! I 🫡 you. Keep doing what you're doing 👍 Rich

If you have a 3” lift in the front 2” in the back then 285/70 17 but you know this. You have to remove the front splash guards so not to rub.

My 23 TRD Off Road came standard with 265/75/16. I do want to increase the height of the tires without changing the 16” wheel

Congratulations on the first 100.000 subscribers 👍

Great video Chloe 👍. 🐕 Cameo 😃. 100,000! ♥️🌮🐶🐾

Should do true size 33x12.50s. No regear required and at most it will only change your speedometer by 2mph which isn’t enough to to be noticeable unless you’re using the digital speedometer screen since needles are never precise anyways.

Agree...I hydroplane easy it feels. I have the same BF Goodrich All Terrains as you.

I would probably choose a more modest 265 economy tire for daily driving and have the 285 K02s on a second set of wheels for off-roading.

Nothing better than the sound Of fresh New Tires

My guess you will mount the 285 tires. I would advise calibrating the speedometer for the taller tire. Adjusting the gear ratio in the differentials may return some of the fuel economy with a hit to your torque. Awesome discussion!

Great video. I'm going with the Toyo Open Country R/T's for my Tundra 👌

295 gang!!! better than 285s and only require the same amount of cutting/trimming that 285 require.

285's are great on my 2nd Gen with just a leveling kit and front bumper.

Hi Chloe , Jay from SWF I tried the 265/65/17 KO2s but I put 2” blocks on the rear and Fox 2.0 on rear and Fox 2.0 adjustable on the front , I went with Mickey Thompson Baja Legend 275/70/17 I Frigging love em. Great I wet and sand. / not much snow in Naples FL😎. Best choice ever $1380 M/ B/ out the door ❤❤

285/70 R17 Maxxis Razr ATs are what Im waiting to install (since September 😡) if my 17x8.5 0 off set wheels ever show up, I’ll post how they fit with my Bilstein 6112 & 5160 with Icon 1.5” add a leaf set up

With 285s, you'll end up wanting to re-gear. Mine was a total pig in the hills with stock gears.

Can someone explain why the diameter of the 285 is bigger even though the wheel and sidewall dimensions are the same?