The learning curve on this stuff has been pretty steep :D

Really liked your explanation about gyros. I also have an FPV racing background and the way you look the drift car feels really appealing and unique for me. Looking forward to see more content like this. Chassis tuning would be a good one.

Thanks for the informative video, definitely right up my alley and drastically different than the typical content on here.

Thanks for the video man. Trying to get my head around electronics for my first drift build and your breakdown is fantastic.

Thank you! I followed what you said and it has made a world of difference. Can’t wait to get my program card now

Great video.. I feel like I finally got the most straight forward.. legit low down on gyros and servos.. you are appreciated.. thank you.

Yo thanks for all that information! I recently picked up the rc hobby so im glad i stumbled on this video so early because its nice to know i dont always need to spend lots of money to make something work. i'm looking forward to learning all sorts of mechanical and programmable tuning for these things.

Man this video was EXTREMELY helpful thank you. I subbed

Great video! Would love to hear more about what you've learned about tuning drift chassis. Maybe one on bump steering?

Very helpful I am getting into rc drifting so this is very nice material I’ll prob buy like the v3 but I is don’t understand like how to tune the gyro

very comprehensive and very insightful discussion. I like

This is an incredibly informative video thanks for sharing.

Fully ready to see more videos of rc drifting from you, more info on gyro tuning (as I always thought it was best to run gyro gain between 50-75%, and never 100), and servo tuning. If you have any type of recommendations for esc tuning, I'm more than sure we're all ready for some of that as well. I have this video saved in Favorites for sure.

Great video it will be nice to see a little drifting at the end 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Dude thank you so much, I was having problems with my gyro, I seen your video and the bit about too close to the motor so I moved my gyro further from the motor and its like a different car, thank you so much

here from the fpv days! sick that ur into drifting, been doing a lot of research too and i love ur take on the gyros, keep the drift content and info coming, its much needed on youtube! Also what made you choose the MST over say the reved RDX or usukani NGE which are similar price range ish

I started drifting this week with RC. I thought because of my sim experience and IRL seat time that I would be able to hop in it. Learning this stuff is crazy

Dude you are preaching the truth!! I really hope the drift community will come together on these matters. Good electronics are not correlated to a higher price tag here. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I was just wondering if we could turn a old FC into an RC gyro. Thanks for the tips!

Great video. Currently running a onsinki v2 gyro, pritty sure that is an agfrc too. Been drifting on and off for a couple years now . I found the faster the servo the shorter the horn has to be to get the precision needed for it drive nicely. The horn that comes with rmx kit is long and same one that the rtr comes with which has a slow servo .

This was a great video. I’m curious as someone with a background in MFG: OEN typically means identical components and a white label job. What’s your opinion on the software role? Do you think there’s any variability happening from the drift manufacturers or it’s just a software paint job?

All makes sense. Completely agree

With added grip I've had troubles with MST gyros and yokomo yg gyro paired with the agfrc servo and had several issues with gyro wobble even with gain turned down.

In my experience, when tuned properly, AVCS smooths out your drifts by slowing down the return-to-center tendency of the servo. . Without AVCS, in long sweeping drifts you would be counteracting the return-to-center by making micro-corrections in your steering input in order to sustain the drift. From the observer's prospective this could look like front wheel twitch (not to be confused with gyro wobble). With AVCS active (and tuned properly) the car will hold that countersteer longer, allowing you to focus on wheel spin to keep it sideways and let the gyro do its thing. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with your observations and what you say tracks (well informed video btw, ty). AVCS is just a tool. I find it helps smooth out my drifts from the viewer's prospective and looks and feels more to scale.

You seem like someone Id get along with haha. I ask so many questions and its like pulling teeth for setup advice. Thanks for making this video, I just got into drifting after a long break from outdoor racing and its alot of fun. Ive noticed alot of the high end stuff allows for remote adjustments but damn its pricey. I made a couple shorts from my local drift track if your interested in checking them out. Any advice in spinning out in tight turns, Im running a yd2z, but cant figure out if its electronics or chasis tuning for that one issue.

I bought like a $8 one and I think it works but I also am completely new to this and I have an awd car which is different drifting.

Used to follow you during my FPV fase as well 😁👍 This is my experience as well, but as with all hardware in this hobby it's worth nothing without good software and there is alot of gyros out there that could do well if the software their running were better, ref. Betaflight back in the days. Anyways, great video and good thoughts.

AGFRC is OEM for the ReveD RS-ST and Yokomo servos. If its programmable and you open the servo and see "ASS" on the PCB, its AGFRC made. On gyros, lots of the lower/mid priced are basically the same/similar. The Futaba GYD550 is very good and mainly use it if you're using compatible Futaba radio with Gyro Link so it can be adjusted from the Tx and fine tune other settings. Wouldn't recommend it if you're not on Futaba. Only reason to spend more on those gyros is IF you want the additional functions or compatibility with the radio system. For me its GYD550 on a T4PM Plus and KO Propo KG-X on EX-NEXT. The Yokomo DP-302V4 works, but does feel different slightly to my GYD550 and KG-X (both of these gryos cost me around $80-$85, you can shop around to find deals). All these gyros I'm using on A50BHL servos, as the ReveD RS-ST is a coreless servo, where the A50BHL is brushless and cost less than the RS-ST, which has gone up in price a lot.

Here is a suggestion, I would love to see tips and suggestions for beginner drivers. Also, what are the characteristics between the FXX and the RMX.

I used to fly choppers for a little bit and I would think that moving the gyro foward, towards the front tires would calm thing down the closer you get to the front axle, no? In line with the front axle line would be the least sensitive point

thanks for the tip, is AGFrc and AFRC-GYS-1 V3 are the same thing?

Are out of the box gyro good enough or is it better to upgrade? Not a fan of auto drift or assists/nannies but would like to lessen spin outs.

interesting to hear your take on it my only real comment would be.. the servo horn length is the mechanical distance the link travels.. further out.. travels further for less rotation further in means more rotation for the same travel by having the link at just the right spot so you use full 100% of the travel you get a much better resolution of movement, if you have 1024 steps of travel and you turn your rates down to 50% at full lock say.. your only getting 512 steps of resolution from lock to lock... having more resolution of movement make the gyros job a lot easier also having the link further in gives the servo a mechanical advantage to deliver more torque to the rack.. like a lower gear on a bike (not that the rack then exerts more leverage on the servo.. it has less)

Been thinking about getting into drift. are the MST RMX 2.5 1/10 2WD Brushless RTR Drift Cars good for a starter? Informational as always!

Hi Furadi, what car is that? It looks real good!

Good information need all we noobies can get 👍

i will say my favorite gyro is the Futaba GY 550 which is 120$, but all my chassis aside from my comp chassis has a power HD G1 gyro and Power HD servo. less than $100 for the combo.

can AGFRC servo be tuned using the Reve D dongle?

Just bought my first rc car rmx 2.5. Looking to upgrade my gyro and servo and noticed you recommend the mst mgx. Is that not the same exact gyro that comes stock on these rmx 2.5? Everyone says the gyro and servo should be my first upgrade and now I’m confused since your upgrade seems to be my stock gyro

My dude, solid video. You are well spoken and well educated. I do not agree with many points you've made here and there are some things I feel that you aren't taking into consideration. Let's just use futaba as an example... the GY550 is my personal favorite gyro. Futaba had to research, develop, and write their own code for that gyro. This takes time and money. Drone FC's run opensource software so a mfg doesn't have ANY of that cost in their production. Additionally, you are entering this aspect of the hobby with gyro knowledge above and beyond even veteran drivers. A vast majority of drifters, this is their first experience with a gyro of any kind. to many of those drivers, a little extra money is worth it if it means more time driving, and less time tuning. I do not want to "Scoff" at your limited experience, but what you are saying looks good on paper. Practical application is another story. There are way too many variables from chassis to chassis and driving styles that make gyros way more nuanced than just buying an AGFRC servo and MST gyro. Thank you again for the video, cheers.

What are those green wheels? Those are really nice.

Hi watchu think of the jx pdi servo? Its is acheap servo witj suspisios specs?😅

No no… Jess is right. The Futaba is the best and the only one you should be buying. Especially since it’s cheap at $120

I agree again with you. If you cant make it to 100 gain, something is wrong.

what for, easyer and cheaper is and everybody has one at home if not ask the next you know who ever did some rc stuff, just install a quarz or 27mhz receiver shakes and twists the same way before you start driving or you are into adjust the gyro....

I like this vid. But I don't understand what the gyro is for. You said it's not for driving straight. What does it do in turns ? You turn the steering wheel - the gyro knows where your car is going? Maybe do a video on this. Thanks

TRY POWER HD G1 GYRO!!!! less than 40 and i love em

Hello, i have the same setup in my RMX as you, AGFRC but my gyro/19kg servo is branded AFRC which is the same as AGFRC. Im using short servo horn, i centered the servo and setted the damping to 500 and i still have wheel wobble. Should i turn the servo speed down more? I have setted it to 74% PWM power and high sensitivity.

real good gyro should run on tarmac or unprepared rough concrete

Do you have any experience with the AGFRC mini gyros?

also the gyd 470 is a joke. the 550 has numerous settings you can change with your transmitter.

This was a great video. I’m curious as someone with a background in MFG: OEN typically means identical components and a white label job. What’s your opinion on the software role? Do you think there’s any variability happening from the drift manufacturers or it’s just a software paint job?