Yess!! Those subtle hip movements were EVERYTHING! It's pure art in simplicity and I'm proud of him for showing his contemporary dance again 💜

I think satisfying is a great word to describe it. This choreo is more about the subtlety and details rather than big powerful moves, the song doesn't call for that. There is a certain unique essence that like crazy has and I think this choreo perfectly captures that. There is also a story within it; the reflection, masculine and feminine etc. It was very cleverly done. In short I LOVE this choreography.

I totally agree. There are many different ways to interpret the lyrics, MV and choreo, but it seems like a lot of people are definitively putting labels on him and claiming their interpretation is exactly what Jimin was trying to express. Of course we should support him no matter what, but I don't think it's alright for people to casually speculate on and push their theories onto others and Jimin himself when he has never explicitly addressed the matter. We all know BTS is very supportive of everyone, no matter their race, religion or sexuality, so of course Jimin would treat the dancers with respect and create music that makes everyone feel welcome. I'm not saying the theories are or aren't true, but I personally don't think everyone should be speculating and commenting on something so personal, and given Korean culture and their impending military enlistment, it does more harm than good to push these labels onto Jimin. I know this is all coming from a good place, and it's great to see how supportive everyone is and will be if it proves to be true; however, I wish people would be less forceful about it and insisting their own interpretations must be the truth. We should respect what Jimin himself has and has not said about the song/album and what it represents.

​​​@@angelah5307 No one should be pushing a label on him, you are right. But acknowledging the art and interpreting it however we feel is right is valid too. The mv and choreo is clearly queer coded. It does not mean we are assuming sexualities or genders but recognizing something that is being shown to us. Also one of the dancers from his Jimmy Fallon performances is non-binary and another one belongs to one of the biggest ballroom cultures in the US. And to expect someone to come out or explain themselves is being heteronormative, because he doesn't owe us an explanation. If he is being this loud with it, it would be unfair to not even recognise it for what it is and put it up to him being unaware, because he clearly puts a lot of thought in whatever he puts out.

@@yoonyan4427 Thank you for your comment - I had to think about it for a bit because what you're saying definitely makes sense and I appreciate you taking the time to explain your point of view. I think I personally feel a bit conflicted about where the line is being drawn between seeing something as queer coded in terms of art and pushing a definitive label onto the artist themselves. I definitely agree that they don't owe us any sort of explanation and no one should ever feel pressured to come out, but at the same time, if their intention was purely to make their audience feel respected and included, it could be equally harmful to impose these beliefs onto them, especially taking into account their culture and real-life relationships. Regarding the dancers, I'm quite sure all BTS members would treat them with the same amount of respect and welcome them onto their team. It was touching reading their Instagram post and knowing how safe and appreciated they felt working with Jimin. Again, I definitely agree with what you're saying and thank you for articulating it so well. I think the main reason I personally feel so conflicted is because if something is intentionally queer-coded and it's a way for the artist to express something they may not necessarily be able to say out loud, by communicating these feelings through their art, it can be a huge relief for them to know how supportive the community is and will be for them. On the other hand, if the community is excessively loud and insistent about it, I do wonder if this is almost equivalent to forcing them to come out. And if this wasn't actually their intention and they weren't queer, then wouldn't everyone be mislabelling them and again forcing them to publicly declare their sexuality? I don't know the answer, and obviously it's great to have these discussions in general (not necessarily specific to Jimin, as he is a human being, not an idea to be thrown around) and, as you said, art is open to interpretation (and now reading back on my own comment, I was definitely also a bit too insistent on what 'should' and 'shouldn't' be theorised on), but I personally think, at the end of the day, what's important is that the audience feels accepted, and Jimin knows we will support him no matter what - I just don't think people should definitively put labels on him. My earlier comment and frustration mainly came from seeing so many people on social media telling new reactors etc. that Jimin is definitely bisexual - there's nothing wrong with being bisexual, but labelling him as such without his consent also doesn't feel right. Sorry for the super long reply....I hope that makes sense 😣

@@angelah5307 @Angela H Don't be sorry for the long comment. I actually really appreciate how respectful and thoughtful you were in your reply because usually I am faced with close minded responses. This really brightened me up knowing that there are people who still can have respectful conversations on controversial topics on a platform like KZfaq while being open to critique. I completely agree with your point of people commenting on reactors videos about jimin's sexuality. But honestly, the crowd here on KZfaq is mostly younger audiences and/or people who might not have really driven into BTS's art, or are maybe here just for the fun of it. I'm not shaming people but that's mostly what I've seen on this platform. Over on twitter where I usually get updates and discourse on the boys, a great deal of people are mostly discussing how the mv and choreo specifically might be queer coded and how it might be related to what Jimin has previously presented or said before. About assuming sexualities, I don't think it is something we can police on the internet. Because similarly how it happened with Harry styles and Billie eilish, celebrities who may have queerness in their art or themselves get speculated on about their sexualities. This is not me excusing it because it is clearly none of our business but is something that happens. However I don't think fans of Jimin are speculating to that extent, at least not that I've seen. I really doubt that BTS might include queerness in their art just to be respectful. Because it exists even in their personal mixtapes, fashion and conceptual ideas. Again, this is not me speculating on their sexualities or gender. It is just me recognising queer messages, regardless of intention, as the art they put out is open to consumption and interpretation subjectively. It has nothing to do with their personal lives and preferences because we will never be privy to that and it will never be our place to pry. Unless and until the fandom at large starts labelling them as something they are not, it won't be a problem imo. Because BTS are very used to hate and criticism, more than we know. And they most probably aren't in a position to be vocal about it due to their position and culture. And they do not have to be vocal about it at all if they don't want to. However, calling them straight might also be mislabelling them. The idea of straight until stated otherwise is again, heteronormative and sees queerness as the 'other'. No one has to come out or state their sexuality, not just celebrities. In such instances I think it is safe to just use gender neutral terms when referring to possible romantic or sexual partners and moving on. I think we are doing fine as a fandom to respect them and their boundries. KZfaq and tiktok is a weird place to be on to get resourceful information or insight into BTS unless it's from official or extremely trusted and reliable sources. I would be happy to discuss or elaborate on anything that I mentioned that maybe sounds confusing. 🤗

That’s interesting. Maybe Jimin did mean something like that too when he did this. You could also think the mud and the inky water coming down the walls and the tar in his apartment are inner demons. He did say he watched this movie for the first time back in 2011 and was interested in it because he was really into one of the song. In the beginning, when the girl grabbed his hand with her muddy hand, he came back with mud on his hand. He can’t “get rid of” that part of himself, his reflection. I think this because the mirror scene and the fact that the woman kind of looks like Jimin. They could have picked anyone, but she resembles him quit a lot.

I just love the fact that BTS songs usually have a deeper meaning. Gets us all talking, trying to figure out what's going on in those 7 beautiful 😍 brains.

I hope you get well Army

@@heidimej_rey oh thank you so much 🥺

Hugs fam 🫂💜💜

I was cackling 😂😂😂

Yes

YEP☝🏽

I’ve seen so many people fighting against this on TikTok. Saying it’s an excuse because Jimin was dancing with a girl and “toxic fans can’t handle it”. But I thought it was pretty obvious she represented himself.

@@hearts4b1llzo Unfortunately, many people are in denial. The fact that Jimin dances with a girl is not diminished by the fact that she represents him. Girls and boys touched him to the same extent, the difference is that the girls get closer, because Jimin would not put men closer to him, he knows very well the prejudiced society he lives in and the fans who have a closed mind and do not accept reality. People paid so much attention to the girl that they didn't see that men also touch Jimin, including Jimmy Fallon's performance, they touch him even more than in the dance practice. The lyrics of the song are clear, the choreography is even clearer. People need to learn how to interpret the songs and choreographies.

Self is many faceted.

he did

@@whatisilyionlyknowipurpleyou What? where?

@@headwound he watched it on twitch. Now its on Patreon now

@@whatisilyionlyknowipurpleyou Nvm it was still up on twitch 🙌

That's what is thought to! I don't really thing this song is about his sexuality, nothing in the MV, movie, album really links to that!😂 That theory it's more like made up by some Armys! Sorry for my english!💜

@@blendadermaku2613nobody said the song is about his sexuality ppl are only bringing up his sexuality cuz of different things involving queer history that he referenced in the mv. the song is about using escapism to get away from your struggles and dark thoughts he said tht already

@@breamiddleton726 well, good for you! My tik tok fyp is blowing by people arguing about that!😅 I was a bit furious by some comments that l read there and when i opened YT l related to this person a bit so l went all out. ( btw l am not against those stuf, but l hate seeing people arguing about such a personal matter. Like why caring about those stuf it's gross and not ettical at all). Sorry for the english!💜

@@blendadermaku2613 yea it’s a bit annoying tht ppl are arguing about it cuz it’s pretty simple it’s just queer armys are saying tht he referenced a lot of queer history recently in the mv and a lot of it we’ve been able to connect to his photopholio too. like it’s obvious the song isn’t about his sexuality we’re just saying it’s nothing wrong with making the connection tht there’s a high possibility he added them on purpose idk why there’s a whole debate going on about it

@@breamiddleton726 ✨RIGHTTT! Why try to make drama!

it's actually written on his album... and there are many references.. y'all should keep up with twt army

Those pants cost $1600+ . What say you about clubbing themes when Fallon and the Mnet performance start and end with Jimin drinking at a bar. It’s deep, but ARMY are reaching tooooo deep.

I agree. The bending over backwards, the convoluted fansplaining, the sublimated PANIC just because Jimin is interacting with women in the MV and dance choreo.

they were saying that because the dancers are touching Jimin not because the choreo is bad lol they're just teasing Nigel cause he gets jealous