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Chris Packham On The Right To Protest

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@eddiehanton5941
@eddiehanton5941 Жыл бұрын
100% agree with you 👍
@theghostoftom
@theghostoftom Жыл бұрын
Yep. My dad is a big tory man. Talked proudly about protests keeping public right of way. Threw a fit when i told him they would be arrested under current law. He absolutely doesn't want to hear that things have changed and he voted for it.
@paulhope-sg5lr
@paulhope-sg5lr Жыл бұрын
Wel said chris
@lindaj748
@lindaj748 Жыл бұрын
Well done for some common sense at last. We are rapidly losing the right to free speech!! 😢
@PrimitiveFuturologist_YTC
@PrimitiveFuturologist_YTC Жыл бұрын
There is no right to free speech in the UK. You’re thinking of the US.
@lindaj748
@lindaj748 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of the UK.
@seamusf.d5321
@seamusf.d5321 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimitiveFuturologist_YTC Kinda tired of this uneducated dipshit take. The US has the "right" to free speech roughly outlined in the constitution, which was somewhat unique at the time. However, we have this other thing we like to call laws. Other countries have, if you can believe it. The UK has many laws that set the rights of free speech or public demonstration/assembly, that's what this entire video is about. Tories intentionally stripping those laws out and replacing them with restrictive speech laws. But to get a little more serious (which you probably won't read) many argue that the US free speech assurances are better because they are in the constitution which is a document which holds more weight in public life as well as is harder to enact laws that oppose it. This I believe is more of the same braindead american exceptionalism, the reality is that free speech has been wielded explicitly to take away the political rights of minorities since the very beginning, and people today advocate for free speech and the silencing of their political opponents through various state means in the same breath. TL;DR No. the us does not have exclusive claim on the idea or execution of free speech, and even in the us, free speech only goes as far as those in power will allow it.
@michaelfisher5690
@michaelfisher5690 Жыл бұрын
What about the freedom to go about your business without being disrupted by some idiot in a yellow t shirt ?
@Anygodwilldo
@Anygodwilldo Жыл бұрын
Who exactly got arrested for wearing a t shirt, and where and when? Be specific, thanks
@johnholmes8178
@johnholmes8178 Жыл бұрын
Some context needed here. The person arrested for wearing a t-shirt was 'celebrating' the deaths of 97 football supporters in the 1989 Hillsborough tragedy. So he wasn't 'just wearing a t-shirt'.
@chrislambe400
@chrislambe400 Жыл бұрын
BS radar is going off. A terrible thing but still free speech. The police were to blame for that.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
Bullshit artist It was during the Coronation... Underneath their raincoats they were wearing Just Stop Oil T-shirts, and they carried small orange flags emblazoned with the logo and slogan ...
@guysingleton9611
@guysingleton9611 2 күн бұрын
Typical Chris Packham. So often he gives half the story to make his point. Nob
@michaelcarlos8686
@michaelcarlos8686 Жыл бұрын
We are all standing in the way of rich peoples right to make more money. We are expendable.
@Crashcourse-N-Crypto
@Crashcourse-N-Crypto Жыл бұрын
Everyone has alwways been expendable even the rich.. the difference is the poor are brainwashed to believe they have to except what the rich push on them and at the moment they arent scared so they keep pushing more on the poor
@russellforster5843
@russellforster5843 Жыл бұрын
Since Onset 1980`s thats is what they tried to forcibly indoctrinate into Young People that only the controllers of capital are important others are expendable.
@poguemahone5476
@poguemahone5476 Жыл бұрын
Our grandchildren will fight for the same rights that our grandparents fought for, and we're giving away.😢
@kerrydevlin
@kerrydevlin Жыл бұрын
Me neither Chris! I'm fortunate enough to have a chance of leaving England,sorry the union. People of England need to wake up,,stand up all together,they can't stop you all. Get up off your knees ❤
@gary1642
@gary1642 Жыл бұрын
How brilliantly put.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@gary1642
@gary1642 Жыл бұрын
@@Uncanny_Mountain as Alexander Boris de Feffel Johnson winning by landslide and Brexit proves the fewer times the electorate are asked to vote the better. Your presumption that Joe Bloggs knows best would be a complete disaster.
@jamieashton3835
@jamieashton3835 Жыл бұрын
Totaly agree chris we qre living in a tory fascist state!!!! Revolution needed
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@rossdavison6526
@rossdavison6526 Жыл бұрын
We have to push back against the Tories
@stephenlawley8776
@stephenlawley8776 Жыл бұрын
Keir starmer backed it
@rossdavison6526
@rossdavison6526 Жыл бұрын
👍
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@Dylan-co2cl
@Dylan-co2cl Жыл бұрын
Against all of them,because Starmer's Labour isn't any different.
@whatsthatnow308
@whatsthatnow308 Жыл бұрын
You are dreaming if you think Starmer will be any better. He'll be worse than Thatcher.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L Жыл бұрын
What about the people who are fed up of protests like JUST STOP OIL who are stopping ordinary people from going about their business and trying to make ends meet, including ambulance drivers?
@NoThatRyan
@NoThatRyan Жыл бұрын
In your country and America we only have what rights they let us have. People in the US recently were talking about permits for protest. Permits!?!? For a constitutionally protected act.
@helenbenjafield7351
@helenbenjafield7351 Жыл бұрын
we have to have permits in the UK too.
@ThomBoecker
@ThomBoecker Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but those permits are common practice in all "Western democracies," read: G7/NATO/EU member states. If everything works as expected, that's not really a problem -- you can get permits by the dozen. The problem starts when politicians and/or authorities shift towards authoritarianism, as nowadays they seem to do.
@deborahtemple5727
@deborahtemple5727 Жыл бұрын
But they are not just wearing T-shirts, they're blocking traffic, causing a nuisance. If they just wore the shirt it's not a problem.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
It was during the Coronation of Epstein's best friend Underneath their raincoats they were wearing Just Stop Oil T-shirts, and they carried small orange flags emblazoned with the logo and slogan ...
@alanbbrady8196
@alanbbrady8196 Жыл бұрын
Chris...... Its already happened.
@jonaldous3446
@jonaldous3446 Жыл бұрын
What frightens me more is labour under Keir Starmer is not going to repeal the anti protest laws... meaning Labour are no longer the choice of the common person.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
It's always been that way, just look at America, it's all controlled opposition. They're also all Catholics. This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@DuncanAtkinson
@DuncanAtkinson Жыл бұрын
When is the documentary out? Pretty sure chris is filming a documentary on this stuff.
@fergusdangerfield156
@fergusdangerfield156 Жыл бұрын
You are bang on Chris!
@janewright2800
@janewright2800 Жыл бұрын
It's not the sort of country I want to live in either Chris but under this government that's how I have felt for over a decade now!
@Trylobyte
@Trylobyte 2 ай бұрын
We are on the road to fascism.
@gary1642
@gary1642 Жыл бұрын
Well said that man.
@bfunirfeyh5822
@bfunirfeyh5822 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately these people are all too sensible and we’re all in the clutches of a culture war. Solidarity
@Lee_303
@Lee_303 Жыл бұрын
Protest is one thing, protesting against the right people is another.
@jamsheadaziz3999
@jamsheadaziz3999 Жыл бұрын
This is how fascism starts.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
Today's fascism was BUILT on islamaphobia and the fake war of terror, which btw never concluded, just disappeared during COVID. No terrorist attacks under Trump, but that's just coincidence _"If you're not with us, you're with the Terrorists"_ George Bush Jr 2001 It was all predictable, I know cos I predicted it, over 20 years ago
@brigeen1
@brigeen1 Жыл бұрын
I never thought I would see the day that this would happen in the UK
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
Today's fascism was BUILT on islamaphobia and the fake war of terror, which btw never concluded, just disappeared during COVID. No terrorist attacks under Trump, but that's just coincidence _"If you're not with us, you're with the Terrorists"_ George Bush Jr 2001 It was all predictable, I know cos I predicted it, over 20 years ago
@guysingleton9611
@guysingleton9611 2 күн бұрын
Start packing Packham
@travelwell6049
@travelwell6049 Жыл бұрын
What if I wore a Just Stop Foil t-shirt? ☹️
@barlowetube
@barlowetube Жыл бұрын
There isn't much hope of peacefully initiating change. People need to rise up.
@frankduffy2413
@frankduffy2413 Жыл бұрын
Well said Chris
@andrewcrookes5775
@andrewcrookes5775 Жыл бұрын
Perfect 👍
@patriciacollier128
@patriciacollier128 Жыл бұрын
Get the Tories out!!!
@if6was985
@if6was985 Жыл бұрын
I need a T shirt stating Just Stop the Monachy.
@saoirsehaslonglegs2313
@saoirsehaslonglegs2313 Жыл бұрын
Me too.&" Just stop the torys..VOTE THEM OUT."
@carlosonliones202
@carlosonliones202 Жыл бұрын
Just stop the Idiocracy.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L Жыл бұрын
You need a T shirt stating Just Stop Illiteracy!
@russellforster5843
@russellforster5843 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@mrflaxtv81
@mrflaxtv81 Жыл бұрын
I ❤ Chris Packham
@tonyschiavone950
@tonyschiavone950 Жыл бұрын
It will STOP when these tee shirt wearers get off the bloody road!!
@sandman8920
@sandman8920 Жыл бұрын
Go away Chris
@rabburns1382
@rabburns1382 Жыл бұрын
Chris for world king❤
@IndieGems2
@IndieGems2 Жыл бұрын
There's no other way of putting it. Our rights to protest and our rights to strike have severely been hampered and that is Fascism.
@lizcollinson2692
@lizcollinson2692 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris
@grrr.9998
@grrr.9998 Жыл бұрын
Just when these citizens needed their rights the most, their government took them away, and rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges. That's all we've ever had in this country is a bill of temporary privileges. George Carlin
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@bookie5667
@bookie5667 Жыл бұрын
​@@Uncanny_Mountainyour idea is ludicrous. Most people would vote for low taxes AND maximum services, ie fairytale economics that are totally unworkable. We would also end up with some of the most bigotted legislation that penalises trans people, Muslims, immigrants etc. The majority shouldn't get to determine the rights of any minority. We should all have equal rights under the law.
@archany585
@archany585 Жыл бұрын
Democratically and peacefully disrupting the average person trying to earn a living.
@jimduffy1967
@jimduffy1967 Жыл бұрын
Well said Chris bravo my man.
@susanhonegger9987
@susanhonegger9987 Жыл бұрын
A government gone mad & for the birds really. Maybe even becoming dangerous?
@colinriches1519
@colinriches1519 Жыл бұрын
Chris is one of a tiny minority working in television that I can respect and not be suspicious of.
@StevenJoz
@StevenJoz 23 сағат бұрын
Stànd strong foŕ freedom of speech. Forced speech police patrols
@Mandy-dy7nj
@Mandy-dy7nj Жыл бұрын
As our right to protest is eroded, we need to think of other ways. One way that occurs to me is fundraising so that, like big businesses, we can offer money to MPs in return for personal engagement and possibly influence.
@Anabsurdsuggestion
@Anabsurdsuggestion Жыл бұрын
Packham for President!
@lizcollinson2692
@lizcollinson2692 Жыл бұрын
of what or where?
@grapentine739
@grapentine739 Жыл бұрын
​@@lizcollinson2692huh
@lizcollinson2692
@lizcollinson2692 Жыл бұрын
@@grapentine739 ha corrected, President? We don't have one. Prime Minister
@stephenguckel9329
@stephenguckel9329 Жыл бұрын
People are protesting for the sake of protesting, an anti-establishment state of mind and do anything to upset it, just because.... That is scary.
@Dazbo76
@Dazbo76 Жыл бұрын
Revolution
@cweatherfella547
@cweatherfella547 Жыл бұрын
Right wing fascism
@bryanthomas2598
@bryanthomas2598 Жыл бұрын
They were arrested for blocking the highways not for wearing a tee shirt,get it right if you want to get on your high horse
@kenthebean6619
@kenthebean6619 Жыл бұрын
See ya ! Start packing Packham!
@stephenlawley8776
@stephenlawley8776 Жыл бұрын
Yes but to late .I left.orwellan
@shehzadzamurad9188
@shehzadzamurad9188 Жыл бұрын
And the government says the Chinese leader and people like sadam Hussain etc etc are dictators 😂😂bloody 😂
@tonyjackson7322
@tonyjackson7322 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Chris we are all with you..
@lightworkerviolet
@lightworkerviolet Жыл бұрын
The UK presently leaning and going towards a fascist state with these new bills. It could lead to what occurs in China and Russia. The passive nature of people these days, who don’t believe protests accomplish anything or they are too busy with basic needs to support or vocalise their concerns.
@andrewruddy962
@andrewruddy962 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that striking workers will be next on the list. Junior doctors, watch out.
@johnburnett3942
@johnburnett3942 Жыл бұрын
All people need to write to your mp. I mean the mp, should be getting thousands of letters ever week. They will know how the people think and want. They are at Westminster to represent the people.
@sjs9698
@sjs9698 Жыл бұрын
while it's true that writing to your MP is one of the only ways (aside from massive protests, like the poll-tax ones) to get stuff done... most mps are not there to represent most people: they are there to represent their tiny minority of eton graduates & millionaires, to protect the power of the rich.
@johnburnett3942
@johnburnett3942 Жыл бұрын
@@sjs9698 I don't think Oliver Cromwell would agree with you. After letter writing, comes a vote of no confidence. Then a bielection.
@anshubhandari1670
@anshubhandari1670 Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the T- shirt?
@arghjayem
@arghjayem Жыл бұрын
Well in defence of the police arresting someone for wearing a t shirt…..cotton production isn’t exactly environmentally friendly. Look at the harm being done to the Aral Sea due to the diversion of water courses to supply cotton fields! It’s half the size it was 40 years ago. 😂
@stephenroche5107
@stephenroche5107 Жыл бұрын
Chris Packham one sound dude.
@carlthompson9925
@carlthompson9925 9 ай бұрын
If you don't want to live in this country you're quite welcome to leave.
@AlexMcDougallPhotography
@AlexMcDougallPhotography Жыл бұрын
Well said Chris.
@DarrenJones042
@DarrenJones042 Жыл бұрын
I don't always agree with this fella, especially when it comes to net zero... but here he's 💯 percent spot on
@tysay8170
@tysay8170 Жыл бұрын
Start a sentence like that, sound like a knob...
@richardvitty1745
@richardvitty1745 Жыл бұрын
you didn't need to qualify the point you were making.
@DarrenJones042
@DarrenJones042 Жыл бұрын
@richardvitty1745 neither did you need to point it out.... but like me, you were drawn to do so
@Dazbo76
@Dazbo76 Жыл бұрын
Civil unrest
@paula622
@paula622 Жыл бұрын
Just stop complying
@sparkyjackson8479
@sparkyjackson8479 Жыл бұрын
it don't stop its on going
@pauladams1829
@pauladams1829 Жыл бұрын
@silversurfermusicco5263
@silversurfermusicco5263 Жыл бұрын
All people in uk needs to see the writing on the wall. This law is one stop from police state
@debbiehaha1300
@debbiehaha1300 5 ай бұрын
That’s a laugh police don’t want to get involved with protesters, see it all the time with the London protesters. They have literally got away with racism, intimidation and bullying.
@derekwhite2929
@derekwhite2929 Жыл бұрын
That's already the country you live in Chris, so where're you going?
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Жыл бұрын
Dudes confusing public order and the right to protest.
@jasmine24477
@jasmine24477 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong in protests ,just don’t interfere with people going to work or appointments etc.
@lilacbookshelf1909
@lilacbookshelf1909 Жыл бұрын
Realistically it's Labour we have to put pressure on about this, since they're the only people who might repeal it.
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e Жыл бұрын
Sir Liar Starmer has already said Labour won't
@crashwangdoodle
@crashwangdoodle Жыл бұрын
Are the people wearing a t-shirt in the middle of the road?
@brianwaite6139
@brianwaite6139 Жыл бұрын
People can protest up to the point that they inconvenience others.
@mspacific1550
@mspacific1550 Жыл бұрын
You clearly don't know what a protest is then.
@aliceb6847
@aliceb6847 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you’re lot is finally catching on. The government, (and the billionaires that own them), are not your friend or your daddy. Too bad you didn’t know that in 2020
@jamrep7190
@jamrep7190 Жыл бұрын
It's to stop naive idiots blocking ordinary people getting to work and hospital appointments. Protest in an adult way and there wouldn't have been an issue.
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
The term Lügenpresse, 'lying press', was used by the German National Socialist Party before and during the Third Reich to discredit the news media ...
@dianerogers8805
@dianerogers8805 Жыл бұрын
People can still protest, but don't stop hard working people getting to work, parents trying to get their children to school, people trying to get to hospital or a gp appointment. Come to think about it stopping anyone getting around full stop.
@royloveday4350
@royloveday4350 Жыл бұрын
Lets all get that t shirt. Where do i buy one?
@jeffy3964
@jeffy3964 2 ай бұрын
It’s ok having free speech but when idiots start to break into airports to damage planes and damage Stone Henge is ridiculous and if you think that’s going to help people with there freedom of speech then think again. If you agree with what they have done then perhaps you should be in court
@Anygodwilldo
@Anygodwilldo Жыл бұрын
who got arrested for wearing a t shirt? please be specific
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
Google
@Gazbrom
@Gazbrom Жыл бұрын
Free speech is fine but don’t disrupt the rights of others wishing to go about their daily lives
@paulwilliams8725
@paulwilliams8725 8 ай бұрын
I will tell you what's sceary the fact that working class people will have to walk to work when they can't afford an EV chris , it's OK for the middle class , and don't you realise they will be coming for you lot next .
@derekbuxton8728
@derekbuxton8728 Жыл бұрын
Yes but u tell people wot to do go a a way
@Anygodwilldo
@Anygodwilldo Жыл бұрын
just Stop Oil break the law. if people break the law it should be dealt with by police this is how society works
@Uncanny_Mountain
@Uncanny_Mountain Жыл бұрын
Unless they're a right wing politician or influencer right? No white privilege herr 😂
@hughbasham4389
@hughbasham4389 Жыл бұрын
If Packham does not want to live in this country then I suggest he leaves tomorrow.
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin Жыл бұрын
Well done for making THE MOST OBVIOUS comment all you right wing trolls love. Well if you don’t like it , leave You say it about brexit you say it about fascistic legislation, you do know it’s not a reasoned argument right?
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin Жыл бұрын
@@hughbasham4389 well if you want to follow that road Davidson and Collins also promised to f o. And didn’t
@hughbasham4389
@hughbasham4389 Жыл бұрын
@@highdownmartin They are as stupid as the two I quoted. It is a remarkably petulant thing to say said by a host of attention seeking tossers and they can all feck off. What I do not accept is your point that I don't have the right to call Packham (and others) out for being so dim.
@davidhalliday748
@davidhalliday748 Жыл бұрын
When you make statements that people are being arrested for wearing a t-shirt you need to add the context and show evidence that it was just the t-shirt and some other idiotic thing they were doing or intending to do like stop the Grand National perhaps?
@rightfuljohnny
@rightfuljohnny Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong in protesting, its just the way they inconvenience others that's wrong. Stopping people who just want to go about their business? Yes arrest them and jail them.
@Sam-yy6yw
@Sam-yy6yw Жыл бұрын
do you think it should be illegal to inconvenience people?
@robertwinslade3104
@robertwinslade3104 Жыл бұрын
Protest is inherently disruptive
@if6was985
@if6was985 Жыл бұрын
Let's all protest in an empty field miles from anywhere...said no one apart from complete morons and tory voters...which are one and the same.
@hazelnut975
@hazelnut975 Жыл бұрын
@@Sam-yy6yw yes if their only goal is to intimidate not to highlight a point of view. Chris is right though where is the public debate on this dangerous loss of freedom?
@priscillaroberts7945
@priscillaroberts7945 Жыл бұрын
And what business is it they want to do? Poison the planet for big bucks? That'll be shell and esso then. The tax dodging royals can shut the roads and inconvenience people for whatever reason they choose. Walking slowly in the road is not intimidating.
@mikefish8226
@mikefish8226 Жыл бұрын
And if it was the EDL protesting?
@Cyclone718
@Cyclone718 Жыл бұрын
What do they have to protest? They're getting what they what which is a fascist state.
@mikefish8226
@mikefish8226 Жыл бұрын
@@Cyclone718 That's not the point, if we need to protect the right to protest that includes the EDL. Also, if you think this is a fascist state, are you in for a suprise if we get a rightwing government.
@kimreid7975
@kimreid7975 Жыл бұрын
No one said you can not protest, but if your protest causes issues for others. Standing in a busy road putting yourself and other road users at risk is not protesting. It is causing a problem. Go and protest outside parliament or any public official’s residence or business. You may get noticed then in a positive way
@charlottebowes7666
@charlottebowes7666 Жыл бұрын
Nah, if I’m going down I’m taking everyone with me… 😎
@jamesbunyard23
@jamesbunyard23 Жыл бұрын
Agree with the right to protest. But what I don't agree with is these stop oil protests. Stopping people from going about their daily lives. Destroying products and property. Protest is a right that should not be abused. Protest your views but not at the expense of others. Respect all views and know that not everyone agrees with you. People listen more when someone speaks, not shouts.
@louisd100
@louisd100 Жыл бұрын
Peacefully protest, then. Don't sit in the middle of the roads and ruin priceless pieces of art.
@anniew4105
@anniew4105 Жыл бұрын
Did he cry when they started arresting peoole for fb posts because they mentioned invaders?
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