DANGEROUS, Abandoned, Ugly and Hopeless

DANGEROUS, Abandoned, Ugly and Hopeless | Harvey, Illinois

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Harvey today is a city that's full of blight, vacant lots and abandonment. It's has had a rough go of it over the years to put it nicely. The city saw a peak population of 35,000 back in 1980 but today that number is down below 20,000. It's hard to see this community being able to turn it around anytime soon... or... possibly... ever.
0:00 - 8:04 Halsted St/What Harvey is like today
8:04 - 19:09 Industrial History
19:09 - 26:55 Downtown area and gang activity
26:55 - 29:43 Corruption
29:43 - 35:14 The High School & Chris's Livability Score
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@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

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@chrystallee5528 2 ай бұрын

You didn't go down their street or mention the Indian population in downtown Harvey that have been buying up the old homes and have rehabbed their little neighborhood. They even have a Mosque there. I hope they eventually buy up the whole city. At least they take care of their neighborhood and look out for each other.

@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 2 ай бұрын

Man it's so terrible I don't think I WANT to see more! I'm not racist but I wouldn't go anywhere near Harvey while driving my BMW 7 Series! (BTW, not to brag but I went to Harvard... fyi)

@markgolden6265 26 күн бұрын

@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549It’s not even like those cars and more expensive cars are not driven through and around Harvey. 😂 It’s still a major transportation area. Plus, plenty of Doctors and medical professionals work at the U of Chicago in Harvey and drive nice cars.

@BILDEMRICH 3 күн бұрын

Can you do a review of Sauk Village?

@bbrucet3 2 ай бұрын

I lived in Harvey from 1989 until 2005. I grew up there. Playing in the abandoned mall, riding all over the city in my bike with friends, getting chased by crack heads, renting games from blockbuster video, getting shot at, getting my first job at the police station at 13, friends getting murdered over drugs, finding out my grade school girlfriend was having sex with her brother and a bunch of other dude (not me for some bogus reason), my 5th grade gym teacher became the mayor... a lot of memories in that town. Harvey is truly the toilet of the South Suburbs. I salute you Harvey.

@allmightygreat1892 2 ай бұрын

Stay strong.

@302Mustang13 2 ай бұрын

Damn that's rough. Hope all is better now.

@bbrucet3 2 ай бұрын

@@302Mustang13 I don't live there anymore. That city is worse than ever.

@DylanDoes490 2 ай бұрын

is harvey toilet or joilet toliet of the south

@Ebbie0613 2 ай бұрын

🥴🥴🥴🥴

@mnoliberal7335 2 ай бұрын

I was born there in 1955 and Harvey was a great place to live and work, with good schools and plenty of good jobs. My dad was the Union Shop Steward and President of the Harvey Improvement Association around 1960. My sister and I went to Washington School, and there was no abandoned mall behind our house--that site was a golf course. There was a real downtown with businesses lining Main St and 154th (I think) and Mom shopped at the Jewel Tea Store. They were still building new residential housing in Harvey and there was some friction between white/non whites at times relating to unofficial segregation. Our folks sold to the first black family on that stretch of Washington and Mom had to walk us to school due to mailed threats. We walked to the Baptist Church and there were some black people who went there. Never thought to count the races. The Pastor was Brother LaSalle.

@9chilidog 2 ай бұрын

Wow, that's crazy the people thought blacks would bring crime, drugs, foreclosures, and overall decline to Harvey. Thank you for selling that house to the first of thousands of black people to enrich Harvey.

@msully76 2 ай бұрын

I can't fathom it being s nice town

@williamhermann6635 21 күн бұрын

@@msully76 My parents went on their first date together at Dixie mall back in like 1970.

@michaelplanchunas3693 2 ай бұрын

Several observations about Harvey. The Mall scene in "Blues Brothers" was filmed at the Dixie Square Mall, as well as scenes at the Harvey Holiday Inn. Here is a little-known fact: According to the Pinkerton Detective Agency which investigated the robbery, around 1926 the last recorded train robbery in the US, took place on an Illinois Central Train in Harvey. Several men boarded the train in Harvey and proceeded to rob the passengers and I believe the mail car. The thieves were tracked to St. Louis where a deadly gun fight broke out, killing both robbers and cops. The Dixie Highway was a heavily travelled route from Chicago to Florida up until the early 1970s when several Interstates were completed down to Florida.

@jonathonpellegrini5725 2 ай бұрын

Aye that’s really cool information Thanks for the great history lesson Stay up!

@ronnieitaquab1008 2 ай бұрын

Wasn't it Jessie and Frank James and gang that did that heist?

@michaelplanchunas3693 2 ай бұрын

@@ronnieitaquab1008 Jesse died in the 1880s this took place 40 years later.

@swannoir7949 Ай бұрын

Wasn't Dixie HWY a part of historic Route 66?

@kendalson7100 Ай бұрын

@swannoir7949 no Dixie Hwy. runs north and south to connect Chicago and Florida. Route 66 runs east and west and connects both coasts. I think Lincoln Hwy. was part of Route 66.

@dirkwyse1609 2 ай бұрын

Your research, reporting, and production are first-rate. Thank you.

@Lincoln_Vail 2 ай бұрын

grifting on others hard times

@chitownkidd33 2 ай бұрын

@@Lincoln_Vailboohoo sad story

@robertlee6781 2 ай бұрын

The south suburbs were a great place 60 years ago. I lived in Chicago Heights back then. Harvey and Hazel Crest were starting their descent in the 70s.

@rutiliotorres9228 2 ай бұрын

Always enjoy your content! Especially in my area of Chicago suburbs.

@beavis_loves_you 2 ай бұрын

Those Chicago area Walmarts were never profitable to begin with 😂

@davehawash2255 2 ай бұрын

I remember when across the street from Best Buy, was a shopping mall called. Washington Square Mall. I watched Boyz n da Hood there

@edmondlau511 2 ай бұрын

I bought a Sony Walkman from the Service Merchandise in Washington Square Mall. It was fancy because it had auto reverse so I didn’t even need to pop the tape out 😂

@kendalson7100 Ай бұрын

I remember that mall and movie theater. I saw "The Lonely Lady" there. It was close to the old Washington Park racetrack.

@meganstevens3318 2 ай бұрын

My grandparents came to America from Germany and built a house in Harvey. It was a nice place in the 40/50’s from what I understand. People tried to convince gma to get out of the neighborhood at one point, but she ignored them. By the time she sold the house in the 80’s she lost money on it.

@chrystallee5528 2 ай бұрын

If she bought the house in the 40s, how could she loose money by selling in the 80s? Even with lowered property values compared to Chicago she had to have made some profit.

@markgolden6265 26 күн бұрын

@@chrystallee5528She did! Houses are selling for 100,000 dollars still in Harvey

@fnihp30 Күн бұрын

@@chrystallee5528Because by the time the 80s came, Harvey was bad (and home values started to decline).

@coppingtonfarnham7731 2 ай бұрын

My former boss' parents used to live in Harvey. They sold their home for 27k in the 1980's. They waited too long to sell and prices continued to slide. They bought a mobile home (even farther south suburbs, can't remember where). Couldn't afford anything else with that kind of equity.

@ocotillo8291 2 ай бұрын

I have been waiting for this one! Nice content

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@laurice8056 2 ай бұрын

There’s no mention of healthcare in Harvey. Ingall’s Memorial Hospital was founded in 1923 by a wealthy industrialist named Frederick Ingalls. It is now owned by the University of Chicago Health System.

@kendalson7100 Ай бұрын

I think Ingalls closed and moved out to Olympia Fields.

@markgolden6265 26 күн бұрын

@@kendalson7100 No it didn’t close and move. Its there open and Wood street is going through a major transition to the U of Chicago Ingalls

@williamhermann6635 21 күн бұрын

@@kendalson7100 I can assure you its still open and operating. Im a paramedic and just picked up a patient from there a couple weeks back. I was born there too. Both St. James in Chicago Heights and Metro South in Blue Island closed in recent years tho. Olympia Fields has had its own St. James hospital for at least a couple decades. I go there somewhat regularly too.

@ttaylor758 2 ай бұрын

Back in 1989-90 Harvey was a small part of my sales territory. I never went there unless a potential customer called us, per my bosses instructions

@kendalson7100 Ай бұрын

Downtown Harvey went downhill after River Oaks Mall in Calumet City opened in the 1960s. That mall destroyed retail in Harvey and Hammond Indiana.

@harborside10 26 күн бұрын

No Harvey, had much bigger issues. Don't kid yourself.

@kagreen2k 24 күн бұрын

@@harborside10What issues specifically?

@truckerkevthepaidtourist 5 күн бұрын

@@kagreen2klots and lots of factories closing.

@kagreen2k 4 күн бұрын

@@truckerkevthepaidtourist Agreed. That happened to the whole south side and south suburbs.

@shelbyz1974 2 ай бұрын

Harvey has some interesting history. I doubt anything productive will happen there in the next 30 years except more people leaving and more blight.

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Same unfortunately so

@DDFreeman Ай бұрын

WOW Chris !!!! Thank you so much for making this video. I am including a link to it in an important article that I am currently writing and that is how I just found it. I was born in 1959 in Harvey and raised in its at that time all-White Eastern section. Lots more to say ... but just want to thank you here !!!! God bless you !!!! ❤

@jonnydanger7181 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for doing these well narrated and very informative 👍

@maureencora1 2 ай бұрын

As a 1970s Teen I Used to Go to Dixie Square Mall in Harvey, IL.

@rainmant5724 2 ай бұрын

I have very deep DNA to the Harvey area. I was born there and grew up in Markham in the early 70's. My grandparents came to the area from the far south because of the ease of getting a job in Harvey. Harvey has and had many great companies like Whiting (made cranes), Bliss &Laughlin Steel, Perfection Gear, Allied Tube, and many others. I remember in 1986 when a Photon (laser tag) opened and it was a hot place for teens. One thing I blame unions for..They cause the labor pool to become over-priced with demands and dues, that the members end up getting nothing as the company moves somewhere else. The only people that seem to do well is the union representatives. The one great thing about Harvey you should have mentioned..Ingalls Hospital..One of the very best in the state if not the country!

@sirchan1576 2 ай бұрын

I agree about Ingalls hospital!

@KTZed 2 ай бұрын

I very much enjoyed this video. Your immense research and subtleties are appreciated! Going to check out your video about the super mayor next. I've been following that story closely and am looking forward to having a look around her town. I might even cover her on my channel soon. *hoping for a federal indictment*

@Sammydx1 2 ай бұрын

I enjoyed my time in Harvey as a sheriff police officer. Great people. Few bad apples

@ericthered1140 2 ай бұрын

a Few bad apples🤣🤣🤣

@willgrellosbelts8695 2 ай бұрын

Being from this area, I love these Calumet region/Thorton Township videos of the south suburbs. For an area with a lot of people, this area doesn't get talked about much unless its crime related or you have a Super Mayor. Maybe do Hammond, IN sometime, or another suburb that managed to stay in decent shape for awhile until recently Lansing.

@preston3750 2 ай бұрын

Lansing is really shifting towards becoming another Bellwood where it was nice but now everything is just starting to decline 😒

@allmightygreat1892 2 ай бұрын

So impressed by this video. Your playlist looks interesting. New sub. Look forward to your research. Thank you.

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@kenkaczmarz288 Ай бұрын

A Major League Baseball record that will NEVER EVER be broken has roots in Harvey, Illinois. Detroit Tigers Pitcher, Denny McClain, who went to Mt. Carmel High school on the South Side of Chicago, won 31 games in 1968. Denny was from Harvey Illinois. Unfortunately, just like Harvey, Denny fell into some rough times of his own

@davidparsons4625 2 ай бұрын

Very nice video. You really gave me a feel for the place.

@craignovy2090 2 ай бұрын

Brilliant narrative evaluation tied in with excellent video and awesome (and heartbreaking) drone footage. This is much much more than evaluation of a community that has seen better days. Instead this is a carefully researched and assembled demonstration of what can and does work or not work essentially anywhere! This is not about talking points instead it is or should be a wake up call for everyone. There is so much wisdom here like the importance of good government, schools, public safety, planning etc. Being an old timer I am amazed how well he recaps the history that I remember going through. Chris should be given an honorary PHD in humanities, urban planning or history for his hard and heartfelt illuminating work.

@Bonzi_Buddy 2 ай бұрын

Turlington had at least one grandchild that got to see his grandfather's dream turn into a nightmare but several others certainly witnessed the decline.

@PeterGreter 2 ай бұрын

Chris, such a great story. You are a true historian and I thank you for all your knowledge and taking us places we would never visit. Cheers!

@tuco86x 2 ай бұрын

Another interesting and informative video with still so many towns to do. University Park, Richton Park, Sauk Village, Flossmoor, Thornton, Robbins, Hazel Crest, Posen, Blue Island, Crestwood, Markham, Phoenix, Park Forrest, South Holland

@edmondlau511 2 ай бұрын

Park Forest would be a very interesting town to cover as it boomed after WWII and had so much retail there with the Centre.

@truckerkevthepaidtourist 5 күн бұрын

Don't forget the little Hamlet of Phoenix right next to harvey

@phillipmarlowe0525 2 ай бұрын

The casino parking garage is on a site that used to be a Sheraton Inn. But closed because of crime.

@michaelwoods9381 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video❤

@beaniemac 2 ай бұрын

And these south suburbs have the nerve to charge triple the property taxes as Chicago for subpar schools😤

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

I know right? Lol

@Decoy0527 2 ай бұрын

Property values go down, property tax rates go up. And once that cycle begins it takes really good governance to reverse it. Unfortunately, the problem likely began precisely due to bad governance.

@markhayden1 2 ай бұрын

Love the research that you do!

@ckgrace6303 2 ай бұрын

TTHS Class of 1986 here! 86' is in the mix! Good times. :))

@MsDurant12 2 ай бұрын

Willie Clark is my brother

@diamondhumphrey9383 2 ай бұрын

Class of 2010

@malnorfleet4925 2 ай бұрын

1996! 👍🏽

@williamhermann6635 21 күн бұрын

My mother was the class of '72. Dad graduated from Thornridge that same year.

@williamdavidson3143 2 ай бұрын

Harvey has been like this for many decades now

@lawrenceraibon88 2 ай бұрын

I did enjoyed this video and learned a lot of things from the video.

@allmightygreat1892 2 ай бұрын

First video viewed. Impressed by your research and street views.

@terrymank5586 2 ай бұрын

They dumped cabriny green in Harvey. That caused the White flight

@thomasclark3348 2 ай бұрын

You are a true sociologist. Brilliant comment

@chrystallee5528 2 ай бұрын

It's true. After the projects in Chicago were demolished, those residents were given section 8 vouchers and spread out all around in the south suburbs bringing all their "Project Mentality" and behaviors with them. Harvey was already on the skids when they arrived and that dump on the community just added more momentum to the complete destruction of Harvey and neighboring communities. I lived in Harvey for 10 years. I watched my neighbors moving away and the Working class culture turn into a Welfare culture. It was another failed government social experiment. Harvey is the Armpit of the South Suburbs.

@KeanWolcott 2 ай бұрын

😂 besides the fact that you misspelled Cabrini 😂 your comment is historically inaccurate

@swannoir7949 Ай бұрын

@@KeanWolcottHe's being facetious, but he does have a point.

@paulbrower 2 ай бұрын

Harvey had the infamous Dixie Square Mall shown in the movie The Blues Brothers in which the Blues Brothers drive through the dead mall. That mall "died" early.

@peterdee2761 2 ай бұрын

Good show as always. Gutted that your competitor HoodTime has disappeared. Enjoyed them too

@thejewbehindthecurtain310 2 ай бұрын

I grew up in Harvey way back in the day and it used to be a nice town until welllll, you know......Need I say more ? 😳

@ccsd0601 2 ай бұрын

Yes. Please say more.

@rafaelgarcia4747 2 ай бұрын

Please elaborate

@jay-vd6rt 2 ай бұрын

All the Jobs and industry left Harvey and so did the hard working men and women who actually mowed lawns and pulled weeds and washed windows and said hello to people and weren’t on drugs. Harvey was destroyed by politicians along with Lyndon b. Johnson. The corruption is unbelievable and the ridiculous property taxes are insane so nobody pays them and the town can’t afford to fix roads or clean up anything or purchase anything . It was so bad the town stole money from the firefighters pension and they were afraid the folks wouldn’t get paid . The crooked mayors along with pritz contribute to the decline .They promise everything but deliver nothing and idiots still vote for them because they promise free stuff that never arrives . You can’t put lipstick on a pig ,Harvey is beyond repair sad because there are some really decent people with good hearts there who have to deal with this nonsense.

@makandalpayne3091 Күн бұрын

Your a white Jew of course you’ll say some racist shit

@thehappyhermit01 2 ай бұрын

Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle.

@lloyddavies5587 2 ай бұрын

A lower score than East St Louis? Did'nt think that was possible... Are you planning on covering Sauk Villiage IL? I used to visit freinds there in the mid 90s..

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Yeah one day I’ll do Sauk Village

@bojo2770 Ай бұрын

Both of my parents were from Harvey. It was much different when they were growing up! The area near 159th & Halsted used to be an old Polish neighborhood. That definitely wasn't the case when my grandpa passed in 2002 and we had to fix and sell his house. I was born at Ingalls Memorial in Harvey also but when I was 3 my parents got us outta there and moved us to DuPage county. I guess things were starting to get bad then! I do remember visiting Dixie Square Mall when I was younger while visiting my grandparents to see the skid marks left in the parking lot from when they were filmed The Blues Brothers. That was pretty cool to a 7 year old like me! I live in Michigan now...We drove through Harvey about 2 yrs ago and it's not a place I really want to visit (or even drive through) again! But it was once beautiful!

@IOMMIFAN6565 Ай бұрын

My mom was born in Harvey and lived just off of 159th & Halsted, it's so different now but I can remember what it looked like in the 70's like it was yesterday. It was indeed a Polish neighborhood and they had some of the best restaurants in that area.

@mnoliberal7335 2 ай бұрын

Used to have a nice park over by Ingalls Hospital.

@EluciveArtist 2 ай бұрын

I hate that that is the popular trend for Chicago factories. Factory is doing great and enhancing the neighborhood around it. Then when some of the people the already work at the factory want to move into the neighborhood and experience that economy they suddenly need to shut it down?

@EluciveArtist 2 ай бұрын

maybe I need to do a deep dive into how close together and related those things are

@santo-rr4uv 2 ай бұрын

Why does it seem that not just 1 or 2 towns but the entire area south of Chicago is a dump. I’ll include the area of northwest Indiana that borders it also.

@thomasclark3348 2 ай бұрын

Because most of the South suburbs were home to factory workers, who worked at plants like the US Steel South Works. Then came the 70s recession and the "Reagan Revolution." The factories closed, the jobs disappeared and "they ain't never comin' back" to quote Bruce Springsteen.

@chrystallee5528 2 ай бұрын

@@thomasclark3348true. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) I believe during the Clinton Administration, took all the middle class blue collars jobs out of America. Sent them overseas to China, Mexico and South America. Jobs went everywhere except America. Leaving a destructive trail in small suburbs across America behind.

@PeterGazis-iz9fe 2 ай бұрын

There are some nice suburbs down there mostly on the Southwest side (eg. Palos Heights; Orland Park, Olympia fields, Homewood/ Flosmore/County Club hills)

@aps125 2 ай бұрын

@@PeterGazis-iz9feplaces like Orland Park and Palos Hill do not belong to the traditional definition of south suburban Chicagoland. I consider I57 being the dividing line. Towns lie west of the highway are mostly decent

@thomasclark3348 2 ай бұрын

@@PeterGazis-iz9fe Obviously, you have never been to Country Club Hills. And it's Flossmoor

@billwilson-es5yn 2 ай бұрын

I grew up in Hammond where I tuned in an AM Jazz station WBEE that broadcasted from Harvey. Moved to Texas in 1977 since there wasn't any future by staying in the Region once the industries began closing down.

@myklallen7184 2 ай бұрын

I can't believe that the Walmart in Homewood is closed down.. Use to shop there each week until i left in spring of 2018..

@tomriekse 2 ай бұрын

Impressive Work and research

@xxxhyundai 2 ай бұрын

Calumet was a good video. Now I’ll watch this one. Side note, I grew up not too far from either of these places in Tinley Park. Very nice peaceful quiet there and it’s rundown and ragged like some of these burbs are getting

@unclestinky6388 2 ай бұрын

MLB HOF player/manager/broadcaster Lou Boudreau was from Harvey and Thornton HS

@donwilliams5685 2 ай бұрын

The Blues Brothers was filmed in Dixie Square Mall. They fixed it up just to film the movie, because it had already closed.

@mrw4724 2 ай бұрын

Very good video. You are one the best KZfaqrs out there!

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@kennixox262 2 ай бұрын

What was the industry of that town? Why did the industry leave? Who moved the industry out of the town? That sums up your video with three questions. When you take jobs away what does one think willl happen to a town?

@truckerkevthepaidtourist 5 күн бұрын

Steel The big one allied tube & conduit Allis Charmels tractors They were powered by what was known as the Harvey engine

@ardonnarichardson5631 2 ай бұрын

Dixie Square was used in the filming of the Blue Brothers. The scene totally destroyed the mall, and it was never repaired/rebuilt.

@johng5710 2 ай бұрын

I believe the mall had already been abandoned/closed by the time they filmed the scene, that's why they were allowed to totally destroy it

@ajax7ox729 2 ай бұрын

Too many black people. Doesn't happen to white towns change my mind

@MsDurant12 2 ай бұрын

Dixie Square was already closed before filming began. My uncle was an extra. After filming, it was reclosed. Now torn down with new senior housing development

@diamondhumphrey9383 2 ай бұрын

The mall closed one year prior to the filming of The Blues Brothers but Universal Studios and director John Landis agreed to repair the damage done in the mall during filming. He didn't repair the damages and Harvey actually sued Universal Studios for damages @johng5710

@a-trainbeastmode5300 Ай бұрын

I was born on the south side and raised in Harvey. I’m considering buying property in Harvey to give back to my old stomping grounds

@bobwalker2293 2 ай бұрын

If Walmart left because of theft, the thieves are still there! The thieves will just move to Kohls, Home Depot or Best Buy! Those stores will eventually leave unless crime is addressed!!

@tpz7618 2 ай бұрын

All I can remember about Harvey was that they had the Photon arena at the expo center which also housed some really good rave parties back in the late 90's early 2000's.

@swannoir7949 Ай бұрын

I remember Photon. Went there in high school in the 80s when Deep House Music was the thing then.

@swannoir7949 Ай бұрын

Naw, man. Harvey had a thriving Black middle-class after the Whites left. Section-8 was an issue, but the 'low-income people' theory you used is not the reason Harvey is fiscally messed up. T was a secession of corrupt mayors that ultimately saw Harvey's demise, and that could be said about most of these towns where you see this type of decline. My uncled lived in Harvey and as a kid in the 70s, it was still nice, but certain areas had that element, like most.

@SteveandSusiesHomestead 2 ай бұрын

Great history lesson .

@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul 2 ай бұрын

Wow, the entire civilization is unraveling.

@joannunemaker6332 2 ай бұрын

I enjoyed this video. Sad town.😢❤

@johnnyonthespot4375 Ай бұрын

I had this momentary thought of getting control of the old Dixie Mall property for redevelopment. Thank you - I no longer have that thought.

@megashawnx4427 2 ай бұрын

May you do Robbins, IL next? It's two towns away from Harvey.

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Robbins coming soon

@megashawnx4427 2 ай бұрын

@@ChrisHarden Alright! That's my old hometown!

@allmightygreat1892 2 ай бұрын

Be safe bunker down. Thats an old civil war town. @@ChrisHarden

@demetriusrousseau7919 2 ай бұрын

I grew up out there.

@john56801 2 ай бұрын

Yeah the place really fell apart after Arnie's Idle Hour shut down. Thank God there's still drive-through liquor stores.

@edmondlau511 2 ай бұрын

Is Skybox still there?

@allmightygreat1892 2 ай бұрын

May all the viewers of this great video enjoy a blessed happy successful day . I too am from the area. To all my neighbors. MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.

@chapellehooks968 Ай бұрын

Why doesn't anyone talk about the very first settler and homeowner in South Lawn in 1874... John Gay... he purchased 2 lots of land and lived neighborless for about 3 years...

@karpfl9237 2 ай бұрын

I work in the downtown train station that serves Harvey. The people going there are nice, hardworking people…obviously they have jobs so it’s just weird to me how bleak it is…

@michelleferguson9104 2 ай бұрын

Glad my family left back in the early 70’s.

@stuartbluefield769 19 күн бұрын

I remember going to Dixie Square Mall as a very young child with my mom and sisters, one of whom appeared as an extra in various scenes in The Blues Brothers. Dixie Square was used for the mall scenes in that movie.

@Mikebuddy2229 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, can you do Steger, IL?

@jimmtech 2 ай бұрын

I live in a small town which used to be great 60 years ago. I often wonder how much investment money it would take to regenerate an area. Is there any formula? How many new businesses employing 100, 1000 people, etc. would it take to get the ball rolling into prosperity?

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

It depends. With it being Cook County it’ll cost more to rebuild than say a portion of Gary, Indiana because of the taxes and regulations imposed by Illinois. California being the extreme example of how expense such a thing would be. Not sure what state would have the lowest cost. Ohio maybe?

@Murmuringbirds 22 күн бұрын

There was a huge thrift store on 159th St where I shopped at in the 80s. I had an awesome collection of bowling shirts from that place and the Amvets in Chicago Heights

@HighSpeedNoDrag 17 күн бұрын

Harvey's Architecture in general beholds this 1960s feel.

@peteheyde7999 2 ай бұрын

Chris, I've been with you for awhile and I appreciate your assessments and comments about the places you evaluate. I've always had a huge fascination for greater Detroit since I was 12 years old. It was 1968 and my parents flew me by myself from Syracuse, NY to either Chicago or Milwaukee with a 2 hour layover in Willow Run. I remember wandering around the airport checking out all the ads and promo things of everything Detroit. There was a lot of race rioting in '68 and that only added to the mystique to everything. Not only Detroit, but all the major rust belt cities as well as cities all over. Anyhow, I was raised to believe that no one should be treated any differently due to race, religion, ethnicity or any other of the federally outlawed "buzz words". Which brings me to the reason why I authored this comment. I was also taught to believe that it's impossible to fix something when the actual root cause is not to be mentioned. In your own inimitable way, you have the rare ability to say what should be said and have just the right inflection in your voice that tells me that you think all this is destructive and could be somewhat corrected if people were able to focus on actual problems rather than problems of intentionally misleading proxy. Thanks and carry on. There's no place that's all bad or all good. But evil survives by obfuscation, innuendo, coercion and outright lies. They don't want things corrected. In fact, evil is attempting to spread this destruction anywhere people are too cowardly to stand up for truth! Be safe and carry on.

@andrewplantagenet5811 2 ай бұрын

You didn’t mention that the Mall Chase Scene in the Blues Brothers movie was the Dixie Square Mall!

@Paramount531 2 ай бұрын

That's where I first learned about Harvey.

@GG-bl9xt 2 ай бұрын

please do Sauk Village IL

@paimei1651 2 ай бұрын

A long time ago I briefly lived in a house here that had a lot of strange goings on, I never knew the history of the town.

@r3dyskunkteam904 2 ай бұрын

He forgot to mention hells angels as he was turning down 155th lol

@IOMMIFAN6565 Ай бұрын

Are they still there, the place looked pretty much vacant and abondon ?

@r3dyskunkteam904 Ай бұрын

@@IOMMIFAN6565 it always looks like that even the hella angels spot in las vegas

@williamhermann6635 20 күн бұрын

@@IOMMIFAN6565 I think theres still a biker bar there but they didnt show much presence. Worked on an ambulance in harvey for a few years and never saw a single white biker.

@hanorokpony420 2 ай бұрын

I used to go to rave parties in Harvey at an abandoned banquet hall in the 90s. It was called Cavalini's

@belindamohar 2 ай бұрын

My daughter was born in Harvey Illinois in 1980 at Ingall’s Memorial hospital .

@taiwanarnold5927 2 ай бұрын

Can you do Markham IL

@MrJoshuaValentinebaby Ай бұрын

So what I gathered from all this is Chicago is headed right in the same direction as Harvey and for the exact same reasons

@bufordmaddogtannen5164 2 ай бұрын

Trendsetters is still open. Thats something. 🤷‍♂️

@ChrisHarden 2 ай бұрын

Haha maybe so

@johnnyj9587 2 ай бұрын

old man Lenny God bless.

@beevirgil7901 2 ай бұрын

Our state attorney in cook county will not charge them unless it is over 1,000 dollars. There is also the safe t act, arrest and let go only never for them to come to court.

@jay-vd6rt 2 ай бұрын

Harvey looks like something out of nightmare on elm street,it’s so bad the mice moved to markham.

@michaelcase8574 2 ай бұрын

I had a cousin who was a Dentist in Harvey in thè 40s to 60s. He took a lot of money out of that city.

@fjacks1189 2 ай бұрын

How is Target 🎯 able to survive and Wal-Mart had to pull up roots and move? Wal-Mart never gets ran outta business, its usually the other way around. They destroyed Kmart and Sears just to name a few. But if the shoplifting out weighs the tax breaks, yep, there gone!

@jaysmith6013 24 күн бұрын

I grew up in neighboring Riverdale and my parents owned a convenience store in Harvey. Sadly they didn’t keep that business too long, the previous owner got rich through fraud. It was a poor community in the late 80s early 90s, most residents on food stamps. The previous owner would give $70 cash for $100 of food stamps (unknown to my parents who bought the store from him). Not wanting to break the law my parents refused that to their customers, they took so much heat from the residents, not to mention shoplifting and other challenges, they ultimately gave the business up.

@tanyacooper6252 7 күн бұрын

70 cents on the dollar that was more than the going rate of 50 cents

@GetDieselNutrition 2 ай бұрын

Harvey wasn’t raggedy or going down hill until crack hit in the 80s. In 87-88 tho it still wasn’t a bad place to live.

@swannoir7949 Ай бұрын

This is so true.

@hallenebrooks5630 Ай бұрын

The building in the 1st picture used to be Don’s Auto Body-I remember having gone there with my late mother….Memories.

@anthonyrivera4735 2 ай бұрын

My favorite videos here are anything to do with Chicago suburbs.

@stude1965 2 ай бұрын

I was asked by Walmart security to leave the store. Said I looked like I was going to steal something. I refused. A couple months later they closed.

@waycool1969 2 ай бұрын

I grew up in the next town Markham. Left in the 90's. My Dad went to high school in Harvey in the late 1940's. And Harvey is in Crook county!

@chapellehooks968 Ай бұрын

Can you send me copies of those maps...

@jetsons101 2 ай бұрын

Chris, you really, someday, need to do some vids on san francisco starting with the Tenderloin district and also showing how so many businesses have left the once great Market Street shopping area. But watch out for all the human poop on the streets and sidewalks. Again, a great watch.

@davehawash2255 2 ай бұрын

Mayor Johnson called and threatened me when he found out I was dating his oldest daughter lol. I can go on about Harvey for days!!!