Hey man, perhaps someday you can be a great photographer as well! (jk ofc haha)
@JBproductions.3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete!!
@ohmyMoha3 жыл бұрын
HAHA 🤣
@King-zo4vv3 жыл бұрын
The perfect Canadian collab doesn't ex-
@thechrishau3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could pin more than one comment.
@King-zo4vv3 жыл бұрын
@@thechrishau ahahaha
@gabeq2243 жыл бұрын
This is Gerald Undone erasure
@hisgurkness43383 жыл бұрын
Only matti is missing :(
@Luke..luke..luke..3 жыл бұрын
A comment. ♥️
@shrenikchoudhary3 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: Chris got confused and marked them all wrong. xD
@SuperLol3 жыл бұрын
he never knew once the shots are taken ahahah
@javiazar3 жыл бұрын
The proper way of doing this was 12mp vs 61mp using the A7S and the A7RIV both with the same exact lens. Most of the differences and the way they were trying to tell them apart was due to differences in how the lens behaves with the sensor, not the sensor resolution, which was the purpose of the challenge.
@mrwashur19912 жыл бұрын
The first one was obvious due to the wider fov, the rest weren’t noticeable. But you’re right, this is a FF vs MF test
@Valkarons2 жыл бұрын
This was a sad video from people that supposedly know a ton about cameras. That comparison would have made much more sense as the quality between the two lenses also could have varied. Lastly, they should demonstrate substantial cropping on high vs low mp as even a four year old could make out that difference.
@Matwiej19 Жыл бұрын
Spot on comment:)
@mastroitek Жыл бұрын
I still wonder how one could tell the difference between 12Mp and 102MP when the pictures are displayed on an 8MP (~ 4K) screen. On top of that the Mac screen has a really high pixel density, at the distance they are at details (single pixels) are so small that our eyes can't make them out
@exposenetworklimited44979 ай бұрын
@@Valkaronswhat’s sad is you think ppl care what you have to say… take your negativity elsewhere
@thechrishau3 жыл бұрын
Who played along? Put your scores below for each round. Genuinely curious :) For clarification on the process: Both cameras were shot in the highest quality .JPEG (for each camera) on a neutral camera setting with very little adjustments to exposure, temperature and colour so they both matched. Overall I had to de-sharpen the Sony and sharpen the Fuji. Remember that this test was to look purely at MegaPixels when viewed on very common platforms and see if you can notice. Also who made it to the country song? P.S - There is no biased to Sony. I love all cameras. Canon, Nikon, Fuji. This was a fun experiment to look purely at megapixels when viewed on the most common platforms for distribution and viewing.
@ohmyMoha3 жыл бұрын
That glare made it good ! LOL
@foreveryone1123 жыл бұрын
Got 1 right and it was pure luck cause I chose randomly tbh 😅✌️🇲🇽
@dimitrijetodorovic4583 жыл бұрын
1 right. Hollyyyy! I can't believe it. It's so crazy how we have got ourselves into thinking beter specs make better stuff. Wow! I'm amazed!
@mrworldwide6663 жыл бұрын
Duuuuude! that was cool and the Outro is one of a kind 😂😂
@mrworldwide6663 жыл бұрын
@@DatDNguyen I don't think he did, because that would interfere with the purpose of the video as a whole
@TedwardDrives3 жыл бұрын
I shoot soooooo many photos on my A7Siii and they look incredible. I can't believe I was so nervous when i bought it lol
@LifeOfAB3 жыл бұрын
they are actually fucking mint!
@kartikupadhyay41563 жыл бұрын
Is it look alike a7r4 click?
@KLM_ZA3 жыл бұрын
Same, so impressed with the SonyA7Siii photos. Think the only advantage with the A7R4 is you can crop in more.
@L1NKHVH3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you should buy an S series just for photos, even though it can do both
@KLM_ZA3 жыл бұрын
@@L1NKHVH For sure,I got the S as I mainly do video work but just a bonus the pics are really great. If you only taking pics for social media,all you need. With a combination of great lenses,pics will be great.
@nathantw3 жыл бұрын
I was laughing because if it was so hard to even tell the difference, then the winner, right away, was the 12MP camera.
@xyzooR3 жыл бұрын
2 weeks later: The printer service: "Hey Chris, sorry we just made a joke with you, we mixed up the prints for you."
@c73w5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@evan3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been so pleasantly surprised with my shots on the a7siii. I’ve been shooting with it a lot more because its floppy screen is so useful and my a7iii only for the extra MP
@markshirley013 жыл бұрын
Do you see a difference with your A73 picture quality wise - color dr etc
@umiumi26382 жыл бұрын
Ive been taking photo with my fx3 and its great
@TheLAexplorer3 жыл бұрын
This is comforting. I've been a videographer for my whole career but recently I started getting more opportunities to shoot stills and I've been using my Sony A7S III. But since I'm new to the photography world, I've been a little insecure about shooting stills with such a low Mega Pixel count. This makes me put those worries to rest. Thanks!
@TMSProductions3 жыл бұрын
This is CRAZY! I have to admit that I got every single one wrong 😂 This was really interesting to see!
@tobiasyoder3 жыл бұрын
don't feel bad, the video is in 4k which is only about 8 megapixels so its completely impossible to see the difference in resolution without zooming in :)
@kevinbouley10753 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasyoder Not to mention the light glare on The big boy
@Erowens983 жыл бұрын
To be fair. KZfaq compression algorithm is brutal. You really can't compare resolutions via KZfaq. Because KZfaq will crush fine detail. Even if the video was posted in 8k
@Xenodine813 жыл бұрын
Look at low-light detail. Bigger sensors with fewer pixels seem to do that well.
@vg67613 жыл бұрын
@@Erowens98 bs youtube supports 8k
@neogod293 жыл бұрын
I think the thing to remember is he edited the pictures to look the same, not edited them to take advantage of the megapixels and color. That's a huge factor in this contest.
@menteasoqquadro3 жыл бұрын
At the beginning he states that he edited sharpness to match the photos, I feel that somehow distorts the test. It's like judging the colour reproduction of a camera after applying personal profiles to each photo. We also must remember that Fujifilm is "medium format", not true Medium Format. :-)
@neogod293 жыл бұрын
@@menteasoqquadro yeah I feel it's disingenuous because it creates the false pretense that a 12MP camera can be as good as a 102MP camera, but what it's really doing is saying the 102MP camera can come down to a s 12MP level. Yes we understand that in a lot of different scenarios, 102MP is not needed and it won't matter which camera you use, but we all know this, but specialized cameras are made for specialized reasons.
@Durio_zibethinus3 жыл бұрын
@@neogod29 professionals would know it at the first place, that medium format has its own place. This video maybe made for beginner who loves watching photography content on KZfaq and feels inferior due to their gears..
@ZakiQutteineh3 жыл бұрын
@@menteasoqquadro Wouldn't you sharpen images before printing / publishing too? Have you ever heard of someone who prints (SOOC)? :)
@kevinbouley10753 жыл бұрын
@@ZakiQutteineh Printing for an experiment is quite different Zaki
@MrBratius3 жыл бұрын
being a landscape photographer, I love that waterfall picture. Great video and I shoot landscape with 24.6mp, which someone told me was not enough. I am sending them to this video.
@TomHofmann3 жыл бұрын
Big difference looking at a print vs looking at your images on a 27 or 32 inch 5K screen. The 12 Mpixel image falls apart on those devices. But then again who displays their images as 27inch screens on a wall. For wall prints resolution is less important than getting the perfect exposure, light and framing.
@nogerboher52663 жыл бұрын
Whoever told you it's not enough, probably owns a printing studio. They are killing it with overpriced huge prints right now... Scaming innocent people into thinking that they need to print on XXXXXXXXXXXXXXL paper for their 40/60/100 MP images. That's how they earn money now. Let me tell you, the golden standard for prints is 12-24 MP and the sweet spot is either 16 or 18 MP depending on the size of the print. The SEPTILLION megapixel sensors is just a marketing scheme to attract casual consumers, because they are the majority and they are the ones who believe in this "higher MP = better" crap. My old 1DX and 1DXll took better images than most new cameras to this date. Sadly I fell for the mirrorless hype crap too and "upgraded" to the a7RIV - There's not a single day that passes, where I don't regret selling my 1DXll... I'm THIS close to buying a used 1DXll.
@e.g.12183 жыл бұрын
I just bought a sony a7rii used thinking I needed the megapixels for landscape prints, but really like the nikon z's. May return and go with the z6. It's just resizing I will have to figure out when making prints.
@burritobrosvideos80603 жыл бұрын
@@nogerboher5266 its all about how much you crop and how large you print
@nogerboher52663 жыл бұрын
@@burritobrosvideos8060 That as well, yeah. With a 12MP sensor you don't really have much room for cropping, at most you can crop out of the image is approx. 20%, maybe not even that much.
@SatishKumar-lw3cl3 жыл бұрын
"I'm questioning all my life choices" I cried 😂😂😭
@WillCarterTech3 жыл бұрын
There are applications where the high-resolution cameras are necessary. Such as architectural documentation. If you take a wide shot of The sistine chapel, to store that history digitally; for the purpose of people going to virtually visit the chapel and zoom in to look at the minute details. However an argument could be made that the way they store these architectural history pieces is By taking many photos and stitching them together. So in this case it would be unnecessary to have a high resolution camera because the image you will end up with will be high resolution enough; plenty for someone to zoom in.
@PremiereGal3 жыл бұрын
Loving the video game/vhs title aesthetic for this. 🕹📼
@daddymoesby_82393 жыл бұрын
This is very encouraging for people with entry level cameras.
@nikhilchhabria3 жыл бұрын
The animations between each of the rounds, Amazing! Music selection, even more Amazing!
@thechrishau3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! W'ere really having fun these days.
@dillonvado3 жыл бұрын
I feel like most of what this says is that you’re really good at editing photos to be blown up large for printing (which is awesome by the way!) But maybe a possible topic for a future video I personally would love to learn more about the editing for print process and what you were looking for in making those images match so closely. Thanks for your videos!
@linjicakonikon76663 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go buy another Nikon D300. My favorite DSLR and at 12 mp I always felt it was enough for large prints. This video was an outstanding affirmation of more modest gear. Shoot what you love!
@MadsDreierPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Did you take in account that f/2.8 on FF is not f/2.8 on the Fuji (if you want equal DOF?)🤔🙈
@Saleto3 жыл бұрын
F2.8 is F2.8 everywhere
@MadsDreierPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Saleto Filmmaking absolutely not true🤷🏼♂️ Google it😉
@Saleto3 жыл бұрын
@@MadsDreierPhoto um i have 5 years experience with cameras. A7ii -> a7r3, 6d2 -> eos r. I know what i’m talking about ;)
@MadsDreierPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Saleto Filmmaking I have 25 years😂 Just google “Equivalence Also Includes Aperture and ISO” and read it....
@Saleto3 жыл бұрын
@@MadsDreierPhoto lets make this clear, Aperture depend on lens, changing happen on lens with ff standard F stop. How could sensor size affect this. Simple logic ;)
@daranaseri3 жыл бұрын
Gerald Undone would‘ve guessed all right, because he‘s simply Gerald Undone, and Gerald Undone knows everything.
@beachbeachidena3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😅🤣🤣
@eggsrsweet3 жыл бұрын
He's crazy...
@_shotbyjones3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you have to pixel peep to even get close to telling the difference is impressive.
@rhetoricalrobot83593 жыл бұрын
They never pixel-peeped in the video. They never even got to 100%.
@williamsjbradley3 жыл бұрын
What is the dpi on those large prints? I always see people say 300 dpi is “print quality.” If there was no upscaling, those prints have to be like 100-150 dpi from the Sony. Is the 300 dpi rule B.S. or are those prints up scaled?
@EricLS3 жыл бұрын
The 300dpi rule is BS. 300dpi is too small to make out the dots at under a foot to the human eye. You can’t look at a 2x3 foot print from 12 inches away.
@Cheehingpoh2 жыл бұрын
300 DPI is more a guideline rather used as a rule. This is starting point and you may go up or down from here, depends on your size of your print. Majority of all print lab will say 300 DPI on their file requirements. Is not a must-have, they just need a standard measurements.
@VegasGuy1975Ай бұрын
The 300 dpi rule is not BS, but it is highly misunderstood. 300 dpi came from the Print Production world before the idea of printing with personal printers existed. Printing presses at the time work on what’s called Line Screens and measured in Lines Per Inch (called LPI). And these screens can be anything from a corse 85lpi (News print presses) to 400 LPI (High end commercial Printing presses). The general rule is that the image dpi should be 50% greater than the LPI because you’ll have quality loss when producing the printing plates at their more coarse LPI, so it’s better to have more information up front so that the quality loss is less impactful. If your resolution is lower, then the quality loss becomes more apparent (especially true at lower line screens). This rule holds true right up to the 300 dpi limit. This is because even with the quality loss at 240 LPI at 300 dpi, the human eye can no longer discern the individual ink spots for each of the Process Ink Colors (CMYK) colors without a loupe (like a magnifying glass for printing). This changes with two factors in play; stochastic printing, and variable dot density. Many of today’s large format printers use both these newer printing methods, which significantly change the way the eye perceives the image both at a close up view and more distant view. And as a result, images can be much lower dpi. Most images can get away with as little as 224dpi if they will not be viewed up close like a coffee table book. If it’s on a wall, I’ve produced some as low as 180dpi. What I’ve advised anyone who wants to produce their images, is to keep them saved at the highest resolution they can because there’s no way to know if later down the road, that image may have a need to be produced larger than you did the first time. And it happens more often than you think. Hope this info is helpful.
@WoodcraftBySuman3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I didn't even inspect those images in real life and this still offends my heart. lol
@thechrishau3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry - not sorry.
@RavenwolfPictures203 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, one of my biggest pet peeves are people who claim to be more than just a beginner but then choose their cameras for the megapixel size alone 😂😂
@webinatic2163 жыл бұрын
Imagine that people claim they can see a difference between 4k and 8k. You can't. People can barely see the difference between fullhd and 4K. All movies we watch in cinemas has been 2K resolution. No one was complaining.
@RavenwolfPictures203 жыл бұрын
@@webinatic216 Exactly! All people try and justify better resolution when all they should be focusing on is the story they're telling through the photo or video!
@rhetoricalrobot83593 жыл бұрын
@@webinatic216 Vacuous truth. There's no such thing as seeing a difference because those aren't resolutions, but pixel-dimensions.
@rhetoricalrobot83593 жыл бұрын
But this video didn't show anything. They edited everything to bottleneck to the lower mp images in the first place. "claim to be more than just a beginner" r/agedlikemilk
@bryanmiller43663 жыл бұрын
@@webinatic216 it's all a factor of distance and pixel density. Notice how he said at the start that it's unfair if they zoom b/c that would give it away? Full hd is 2.1 megapixels, 4k is a jump up to 12 and 8k is 33. You can blow up a 4k image pretty large before it starts to lose quality, you can make an 8k image even bigger and maintain clarity, the issue in this video is they didn't hit those sizes. The point he should be making is that unless you are making 6ft prints that 12mp camera is pretty great, most consumer screens still rnt even 4k yet so anything in the digital world is fine
@georgemalczynski3 жыл бұрын
I have an A7s and A7r4 I can definitely tell a difference. I can only assume the 102mp was down sampled to 12mp before printing.
@EricLS3 жыл бұрын
This is HUGE. Printing almost always means resampling to a specific size. But really here, the Sony has a lens with way better “microcontrast”.
@DerVagabundli3 жыл бұрын
@@EricLS if it's almost always done, that just means there is actually no benefit to having more pixels, if you shoot close to the angle of view you want to print in the end. High megapixel cameras are very specific tools for a much smaller range of use than people make out to be.
@EricLS3 жыл бұрын
@@DerVagabundli it’s the classic diminishing returns. You can hit R40 insulation in your roof and save a ton vs R13. But then boosting to R150? Not really gonna see a return on investment. Unless there is a hyper-specific reason, like a -50 freezer or something. Like you said, specific tools. At this level of detail lens and diffraction become the deciding factor. I had a LOT of complaints about lenses when the D800 came out and cameras started out resolving all but the absolute sharpest glass.
@DerVagabundli3 жыл бұрын
@@EricLS exactly. And 99% of the time people will see a much greater benefit of buying better glass than better bodies. Too many stories of people spending thousands on new gear only to notice absolutely no improvement in their images...
@tallAldiProduction3 жыл бұрын
I saw an Interview with a camera developer from canon or red, i don't know the exact brand anymore, where he discussed the effect of higher resolution. What he basically said is that we can't compare sharpness to high resolution. These are are two different things. In fact sharp edges get softer with a higher resolution because they contain more detail. It will look more natural but not as sharp because it's closer to humian sight. It's basically the best and simplest Antialiasing filter. It's a common misconception to think higher resolution results in sharper images, because it was this way in the beginning of digital video when the resolution of our screens was less than the resolution of our eye, but since a couple of years we surpassed this so higher resolution just means finer details which in return results in combination with our sight in "softer" images.
@phucmapvlog3 жыл бұрын
Eye-opening
@Saleto3 жыл бұрын
And you again
@phucmapvlog3 жыл бұрын
@@Saleto sao em đang theo dõi anh hả?
@Saleto3 жыл бұрын
@@phucmapvlog ~~ em dân làm film thì theo chân channel dân làm film là phải rồi
@phucmapvlog3 жыл бұрын
@@Saleto tụi mình có giống đam mê
@dangnguyenhai68503 жыл бұрын
hi anh
@DavidMota3 жыл бұрын
sony killing the game rn 🔥
@blakemartin17003 жыл бұрын
Right now? It’s a 7 year old camera don’t forget..
@mauibuilder12393 жыл бұрын
@@blakemartin1700 It was a Sony A7siii according to the title, not A7S...still only 12 MP....mind blowing!
@ganker243 жыл бұрын
I have a nikon D3(13yrs old) with 12mp and people think it's a Sony.
@menteasoqquadro3 жыл бұрын
Not just Sony. Sony + editing software to increase sharpness.
@chrisvig1233 жыл бұрын
Too bad the reliability is so bad 😯
@sauravus3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! Great idea and a great example of how overrated megapixels are. Would love to collaborate someday 🔥
@possiblyanonymousguy19043 жыл бұрын
Megapixels are overrated
@MohammedVerda3 жыл бұрын
yes true i thought 102 mega pixel would be very nice but... no
@pete31983 жыл бұрын
Depends on the use case. In most modest-to-moderate sized images viewed 1:1 sure, picking the difference will be difficult. But if you are zooming in / cropping into small areas of an image then resolution becomes hugely important. I have a 4K 32" monitor and even just taking photos on my lowly phoen camera (Note 20+) there is a huge difference when I shoot in 108MP mode vs when I don't when viewing on this screen, especially when zooming or cropping.
@ezpz26243 жыл бұрын
if you only do instagram pics of course.
@petedraper51853 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is with camera manufacturers deliberately marketing high mega pixels as being the way to go for greater detail. The reason I purchased a Sony 61MP A7R4, was due to the fact that I photograph wildlife and have to crop most of my images. The 61MP is a real advantage over my Sony A9 in that area. In fact, Chris Hau actually suggests in the video that he would use a camera with a greater number of MP's if he cropped a lot of his images.
@barneyarthur46153 жыл бұрын
Im not a fuji fan boy but you shot the fuji lens wide open where its going to be at its softest compared to the sony that was stopped down from 1.4 to 2.8.
@EvanNakagawa3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly shocked that the A7Siii held up with that bigger print. Also, love that waterfall photo!!
@yycdrones3 жыл бұрын
My favourite creators all in one video! All Canadian! All Amazing!
@thechrishau3 жыл бұрын
All at once for a fun time! Enjoy :)
@yycdrones3 жыл бұрын
@@thechrishau Great stuff man - your content has seriously increased so much since I started watching a while ago. Always love your work, keep it up!
@walkerjones57563 жыл бұрын
Same... same
@hauxon3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but flawed. One lens is wide open (weakest part of the lens) while the other is stopped down 2 stops. Are the prints 2:3 format or 3:4, the which was cropped to match? My suggestion would be doing another test having both lenses stopped down to eliminate the lens.
@Durio_zibethinus3 жыл бұрын
He said in the bigger print sony is 10mp because he cropped it. Looking at them getting it wrong, I believe we got the message which him want to convey, that beginner shouldn't worry about resolution.
@jabezhane3 жыл бұрын
Yeah are the Fuji pics just a 12MP crop to match the Sony? If so...waste of time really.
@realhiphop033 жыл бұрын
@@jabezhane no. Only the sony 12 was cropped down to 10. So it was 102 vs 10
@mikechisholm3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm not suprised the Sony looked sharper since the Fuji was wide open.
@DerVagabundli3 жыл бұрын
@@getzoutdoor what do you need more mp for if you literally can't tell a difference? It might be much more cost efficient for a photographer to get a lower MP count camera, so FF instead of MF and get a sharper lens to go with it. If you don't print 3m side prints to be viewed from 30cm away, the extra resolution will mainly cause extra hassle and unnecessarily increase cost.
@oohms883 жыл бұрын
It's a difference in focus ability and lens quality - that's why the sony was picked every time, instead of it being a 50/50 split (which is expected if it was a random guess) Stop down the lenses to at least f5.6 to start, and shoot objects with less depth I also found this when I had a 1080p projector setup, you could easily see on a large screen what shots in a TV show were in focus, and which weren't
@franciscomones-cazon44323 жыл бұрын
Lucas is killing these edits!! I was literally searching things about this and then you posted LOL!!
@thechrishau3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying this! I'll let him know. :)
@seanhansen86373 жыл бұрын
"Gear doesn't matter.... But gear matters" - Matti Haapoja. Haha - this is a great example of that!
@WillCarterTech3 жыл бұрын
You have to take into account that 4K resolution is around 8 megapixels. And a 4K screen that is 75 inches looks great until you get too close to the screen to be able to see the entire image. When they talked about viewing angle that was an important point. For you to see the entire image, you have to be far enough back that the pixel density doesn’t matter past 8mp. 🤷🏻♂️
@PsychonautTV2 жыл бұрын
... which is the whole point of this video. For almost 90% of imaging work, 12mp is definitely enough. The REASON why MP count is important is for those heavily cropping in on images a lot, such as wildlife photography, sport, or even architecture, when PERFECT composition is required, and cropping/straightening/distortion corrections are much more frequent. image quality > resolution, always cinemas are still only 2k-4k resolution, which is crazy because a cinema feels and looks extremely sharp and detailed, when in reality it's not. It's the cinema camera that produces good images, not the pixel count.
@bentaylor39842 жыл бұрын
I've been an amateur starting with film back in the 60s. I bought my first serious camera during that time based on the advice of a professional photographer. The one thing that stuck in my mind from his freely given advice was this, "buy good glass first, then use quality film." I got the same advice when purchasing my fist digital camera. "Concerning megapixels, the glass is way more important." As a result I have images shot with 4MP that rival anything shot with a MP count 2 to 3 times that. So, great video guys, you just reinforced advice I was given 50+ years ago. Thanks so much.
@sawyerhartman3 жыл бұрын
loved this video man!! hahaha I refuse to go over 25mp for video personally!
@ploopy87803 жыл бұрын
If you went over even 8mp for video that'd be crazy haha. 8mp is 4k so 25 would be higher than anything weve ever seen or are maybe even capable of.
@realhiphop033 жыл бұрын
Um, yea bro, video resolution is much lower than still photography. For video, pixels are skipped or image is cropped to achive lower vid resolution.
@marcomarcon58028 ай бұрын
Your camera, whatever it is, is not shooting at 25mp but a much, much lower resolution
@syedzohair3 жыл бұрын
“I got both wrong.....COOL”. ~Peter😂
@fernandomendez93903 жыл бұрын
If you shoot at a distance (e.g. a landscape) you'll definitely find the difference in resolution. The higher MP sensor will be able to resolve smaller details much better than the lower MP one.
@zarate1om3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! The collabs in this was crazy! Less megapixels definitely isn’t bad, but I am a cropping maniac so I don’t have a choice💀
@babourzainullah3 жыл бұрын
Here I was thinking Sona A1 will be a game-changer in my photography lol
@RiceCubeTech3 жыл бұрын
It will be. They literally weren’t zooming in, you’ll notice it when cropping. Even the difference between my 12mp a7siii and my 24mp a7iii is a huge difference. The 50mp will help a lot if you do more editing and work in post.
@camjonny3 жыл бұрын
@@RiceCubeTech use Adobes new enhance function to up the resolution 4 times, problem solved in post :) Takes 12mp up to 48mp.
@henri.witteveen3 жыл бұрын
@Aries Yes you can
@ytuberization3 жыл бұрын
@@camjonny It increases the pixel number of an image by inventing new structures. It does not increase the resolution. That´s the difference between resolution and illusion... ;- )
@pmanserprophoto3 жыл бұрын
What would be an interesting follow up film from this conclusion is your process enlarging both images to print from each camera to look the same :)
@Mars-un5gp3 жыл бұрын
"im looking for depth..... They look identical" 😂
@noamiller60733 жыл бұрын
Wtf I had no idea Chris was there until he gave them the prints 😂😂
@adamvollelv26323 жыл бұрын
it would be super cool to see the process of how you edited the photos ( mainly seeing if you added sharpness or not a all ! ) either way, Thats the type of video i didn't know I needed but happy i got to see ! !
@djdavidbraz3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Would love to see that video as well.
@VinDieselS703 жыл бұрын
The author did mention in the comments he had to de-sharpen the Sony while sharpening the Fuji
@barrygoyette3 жыл бұрын
Ran a test here trying to validate your results on the large print test. Couldn’t do it. 24x30 enlargements.. very visible difference between 12 and 102mp, certainly would never have trouble picking out the GFX. Initially I thought you had reverse engineered the test (picked a print size to support your preformed conclusion). After conducting the same test with largely the same parameters.. I’m left either questioning your eyesight or your integrity. (And I’m not questioning your integrity here, I’m just don’t know how to explain the results you’ve published as the don’t align with what I’m seeing in my re-test).
@Meelenko3 жыл бұрын
The essence of youtubers is the same as politicians: they need to say what the followers want to hear. There have to be huge differences in max achievable image quality, and average shot image quality. But even a smartphone can produce a workable image of a close, well lit scene/subject. In the end, all of them will be the same in a youtube video, probably watched on a phone or tablet :-) I remain firm on not questioning anyone's eyesight :-)
@ThamdrupWildlife3 жыл бұрын
Im thinking this test is all about the lenses. The mention the Sony has a Zeiss lens which is super sharp. They don’t mention the make of the lens on the medium format camera. If they put a crappy lens on the 102mp camera the Sony with the Zeiss will win every challenge. 🤷🏼♂️
@careibou13 жыл бұрын
I think they are legit tests but the testing methodnology is flawed, they did note one thing at the start that they adjusted the photos for color crop and SHARPNESS so they massively sharpened the sony. Take a look at the once of the bird on the lake, you can see the sharpening halo on the 12mp one. Plus as they shoot different ratios one is cropped. Still a cool comparison that shows that post processing may have a large effect on end image quality.
@blujeans94623 жыл бұрын
Totally are with you on this. As a photographer judge I knew the screen images might be a bit tough to discern - but knew there was no way there would have been any doubt for the enlargement (especially at that size) - as I have seen first hand in my competitions. I suspect there is a lot more going on behind the scenes in post to make it so difficult to tell the difference. Found it hard to believe, honestly. I have an older Nikon (12mp) and a new (46mp) - same lens, since they are interchangeable with both cameras - no difficulty telling which image came from which camera, ever.
@ZakiQutteineh3 жыл бұрын
@@blujeans9462 Here there are two modern sensors (obviously an aged low res sensor would be too obvious to tell from a new high res one) ... and he did mention he sharpened & color corrected to make the differences less obvious. Before you question someone's integrity or methodology, pick up two new cameras and test for yourself.
@MarkusGjengaar2 жыл бұрын
Cool test. It proves that when you look at two photos at 100% resolution you really can't tell the difference. However there are still a lot of use for more MP. Editing a photo in Photoshop to remove objects is the first thing that comes to my mind. Obisoubly if you also need to crop or like to recomp a shot the higher MP count will help. I liked this test tho, made me want a Sony A7S iii cause I know I can use it professionally.
@koolkutz73 жыл бұрын
Yes! I got every one right. Feelin' smug right now. That Sony 12MP though! Not surprised in some ways though as I was looking at one of my own images taken on a Nikon D70s which has a 6MP CCD sensor; I have it on a 16" x 12" canvas on my wall and it still looks great.
@JusttJC3 жыл бұрын
Damnn, A7Siii really punching in every weightclass!
@nick_a_pagan3 жыл бұрын
I definitely need to print more of my stuff
@adomgemie65693 жыл бұрын
I think it's the lens that held the Fuji back, not the body itself. But as you said, there are other benefits to higher pixel count than just quality alone, so people buying the GFX 100S must know what they're doing. Fuji should need to up their medium format lens game then the market would stir up a lot. Don't get me wrong, I'm an A7S3 user, I love the camera, and for hybrid use it's crazy good. Just sharing my thoughts about how the results were not what people were expecting.
@youreperfectstudio47893 жыл бұрын
It all depends on what you are doing. I photograph artworks and there is for sure a difference in 12 and 102 MP in that field. I also photograph live bands and 12 MP is plenty for that.
@CheqkoO953 жыл бұрын
So... the best pictures came out of a video camera? Ok thank you guys for saving us some money 🙏🏼👌🏼
@burritobrosvideos80603 жыл бұрын
i pwn both and the fuji is much better in real life. Much better
@decoytv75803 жыл бұрын
@@burritobrosvideos8060 This wasn't "real life"? LOL.
@burritobrosvideos80603 жыл бұрын
@@decoytv7580 you wouldn't know, you're too broke to use a medium format
@jessejayphotography3 жыл бұрын
So basically 12MP, finally image, cropped or not, is more than "good enough" even when scrutinized by expert eyes. I would still take a 40-50MP camera over just a 12MP in the real world knowing I can crop all the way down to 12MP. Thats a lot of headroom to rescue a badly, or hastily taken photo.
@RiceCubeTech3 жыл бұрын
Idk man I’m a pretty decent photographer, I mean I get paid money, and my a7siii shots look noticeably softer than my a7iii when cropped in. At like normal non cropped it’s not too bad, but it’s so bad at like 100 or 200 percent crop in. I think the issue with this test is not allowing them to zoom. Plus only viewing it on a MacBook display makes it so hard because it has less than a 4o resolution and any high res photo is gonna not look that different from another given that even 12mp is higher.
@RiceCubeTech3 жыл бұрын
But yeah I agree having the option is way better than only having the 12mp raw
@BeatPoet673 жыл бұрын
You only get the cropping advantage if the glass is great to begin with.
@RiceCubeTech3 жыл бұрын
@@BeatPoet67 most of the Sony glass I shoot with can resolve 40mp so 24 isn’t an issue. Most of the gmaster, tamron, and sigma art glass is enough to resolve the a7riii
@RiceCubeTech3 жыл бұрын
@@BeatPoet67 most modern glass, even cheap glass is like 19mp or more
@scottca97803 жыл бұрын
The older I get the more megapixels cameras have but the fewer megapixels my eyes have. It's actually quite cost effective.
@muhameddelic18193 жыл бұрын
Thank you dude! this gave me so much confidence using my a7siii for photos... i felt so bad about it because everyone was trashing it (even tho i think it looks amazing compared to my a7iii). Love the vid!
@ezzeldeenmalek3 жыл бұрын
This should’ve been the hunger games but with pictures, everyone starts out with a burger and if they lose they have to give it to the winner 😂
@prvanram3 жыл бұрын
I found it very interesting that 3 highly professional photographers couldn't tell the difference. That will definitely help me pick my future cameras.
@aczelsantana15043 жыл бұрын
No but the other 3 are... also all 4 definitely have their experience with looking for detail I’m sure
@Krekkertje3 жыл бұрын
They're more videographer than photographer honestly. The highest resolution they can see is probably 4k 😂
@maisonmallninja3 жыл бұрын
@@Krekkertje look back @ the large print. It's a clear difference which camera (medium format) has more shadow detail and controlled contrast. The Sony A7s3 looks "crushed" by comparison. It's videographers looking at prints.
@Aturixios3 жыл бұрын
First round, first pic, what no one noticed (or knows; perhaps?) is that DoF (depth of field) is also affected by crop factor, so even if both lenses says they're f/2.8, the Fuji lens' DoF is actually f/2.2 or so in full-frame equivalent, so the shallower DoF in pic B gave it away. This isn't always easy to see, especially as shown in later pics, but knowing that all pics were taken at "f/2.8" makes this a whole lot easier sometimes.
@silvere363 жыл бұрын
Something most people overlook is tonality. Medium format and higher resolution does help capture the more subtle tones. Also, people often confused sharpness with resolution. A picture can be over sharpened and to the untrained eyes, it has more resolution. We're looking at a KZfaq video so its impossible to accurately judge. This is more a reaction video.
@aharshephotography3 жыл бұрын
I see the point, but fundamentally this is comparing the two lenses here!. Resolving power is a property of the lens and not the sensor. It might be just that Sony's 50mm lens is better than Fuji 63!
@JordiVandenBroeck3 жыл бұрын
I love the retro gaming style. 🎮 This really opened my eyes on MegaPixels and it's awesome to see my favorite creators come together. MORE OF THIS PLEASE! 😃 BTW those prints look dope!
@kevindiossi3 жыл бұрын
I’ve said this for years to friends and colleagues, but there is still a great deal of value in shooting with high megapixel cameras. Primarily pixel level editing...something that is in demand for a lot of commercial work I do. When you have to start cloning out, air brushing, and removing any imperfections in images a 12mp image is just simply not going to cut it. You said you worked with Toyota and delivered 12mp images to them but you didn’t say what they were used for...because if it’s a campaign for social media then I understand. The majority of content we produce now is being used for social media because that’s where these companies are getting their primary engagement. What’s more, with the really excellent quality we’re seeing from Adobe Sensei and “Super Resolution” it’s going to make it easier to provide clients extremely high resolution images when they need them. I’ve already put that feature to good use and am extremely happy with the results.
@maisonmallninja3 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone either patronized or dismissed the CLEAR dynamic range difference in the large print. Look at the rock. In every single shot in this video, that shows the large print - the rocks on the fuji image (the one people never chose), clearly shows more/smoother shadow detail on the gradient in the rocks. Overall, the Sony is significantly more contrasty in this image. To me, the others are indistinguishable when watching the video.
@getexposed89123 жыл бұрын
This is the definition of meaningful content
@imSpixel3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Now I might actually buy the A7S3
@benjohnsoncreative3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! So interesting, love the transparency and the honesty of seeing you guys do this haha
@richardsteinbergmakingknives3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I have the A7siii and wanted to do some photography for my own home. Need some big prints and thought 12mp wasn't enough. Well now I feel really good about my camera and look forward to taking some nice shots along with my video.
@Maxime-ho9iv3 жыл бұрын
This is such a flawed test. You probably never print that’s why. 1) the “big” print is small by today’s standard, there is absolutely no need for this many megapixels if you print that small 2) more megapixels means you can push more, if you did the same work on both images it’s normal the difference at the end is thin (working with sharpness for a print is a whole world in itself, you probably ended up with an image that is not sharp in both prints) 3) Lenses do not resolve the same way, you can see the lens resolution just as megapixels for lenses (what aperture did you use for both lenses by the way? As everybody knows lenses resolve more when they are stopped down) 4) the cameras sensor tech and lenses are different, you should have used a Sony a7sIII and a Sony a7rIV with the exact same lens It is absolutely obvious to anyone doing prints that you will end up with something similar if you make a straight comparison. But if you can’t manage to get more out of the higher megapixel image there is an issue somewhere.
@CrazyWeeMonkey3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think a better example would be to compare an old DSLR from the 2000s with a 4MP/6MP sensor to a slightly newer 12MP one with the same mount+lens. Like a Nikon D100 vs D300. You really don't need high resolution for most photos, and the biggest advantage of higher resolutions is the added crop ability. The added detail for architecture/landscape photos is also useful from a higher resolution, but not to the degree that most people may realize. This test failed when they used different lenses across different formats. Hell, an A7Riv would've been a significantly better comparison, as it shares the same sensor size, lens mount, and color science as the A7Siii.
@MrRes9993 жыл бұрын
you should do a follow up and get the Angry Photographer to guess
@jaredmestas3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious of the process of enlarging the large print from the 12mp file
@pault1513 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There are either obvious or hidden interpolation steps depending on your processing flow and printer driver. And what was the final output device? Chris Hau, comments?
@CHALADEITALIA3 жыл бұрын
Great video! But quick side note, what tripped everyone up was that they were expecting the 102 MP photo to be sharper, which is not a feature of higher MPs, but rather the image processing of the camera. I'm just speculating but Sony probably knows it's working with lesser MPs therefore they have to compensate with a little more sharpness. It would be interesting to see the 102 MPs after a sharpen filter is applied. How much sharpening can it take before the image deforms and how much more detail can be gained from this. At the end of the day, 102 MPs vs 12 MPs isn't about getting a better image when matched, it's about getting a lot more forgiveness in the edit. This video shows that really well!
@coffeepotdad6283 жыл бұрын
Curious, how big were the "big prints?" I've actually asked photographers before why they need a 102mp camera and their answer was for "art prints" but how big do you think people are going to actually buy prints? Lol unless someone has a wall the size of a basketball court, you probably will never need it.
@Vinterloft3 жыл бұрын
This is literally a lens test. The 63mm is one of the weakest G mount lenses, and just as expected, they could tell in microcontrast. Buuuuut I also agree megapixels are worth little for 95% of shooters. I still use the Fujifilm X-T1 which is a 16MP sensor (without AA filter so kind of equivalent to 24MP in detail rendition) and also because I like APS-C for concert photography.
@MarcAufdemKamp3 жыл бұрын
Love it. Would love to see it as a serious. like 12 vs 102 "Street edition" , or 12 vs 102 "landscape edition", or 12 vs 102 "Portrait edition" . I know I dont have the chance to put these high end bodies into the test against each other.
@Iagle8888 ай бұрын
A fundamental misunderstanding of the use of megapixels. More megapixels allows you to either magnify or crop into an image that in turn magnify the display of that image offering smoother edges or and details. Also a sharper image at 12mp in focus will look clearer than a 105mp out of focus.
@TerrifyingBird3 жыл бұрын
Tl; dr: Lens sharpness > sensor sharpness. As with many camera things, lens >> camera.
@thestefsterbun18203 жыл бұрын
Joseph Ellis's take on this is WAY more accurate and informative. Do yourself a favor if you are seriously interested in this topic.
@christophesorenti3 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys ! The Problem here to me is that you put a Zeiss 1,4 optic closed down to 2,8 against a Fuji 2,8 wide open. This is not a fair comparison even with the huge “resolution” difference. The one bringst a lot more details which are way better interpolated for the needed prints resolution . On top of that , you know that the RaW converter / processing workflow of the image and the printing process is going to make a HUUUGE difference on the final results . Basically , more pixels are always better for printing but they have to be the “same” . People tend to confuse the amount of pixels of an image with the quality of the digital information. A bad image will always be bad, a good small image will “break “ at some point through interpolation. AND a very big point when getting the most out of your sensor is FOCUS accuracy………… I’ve been using Nikon DSLRs for years and Fuji Mirroless. It’s been my experience. Thank you Chris for the great Channel , always a pleasure :-)) cheers from Hamburg, Germany.
@RandyFinch3 жыл бұрын
My first digital camera was a Kodak DC-4800 with 3 MP. I still remember printing an 11x14 image for a photo competition at a nearby museum. I won first place in the color division for that print. People would ask me what camera I used, thinking it had to be a high end one. They were amazed when I revealed to them it was taken with a $490 3 MP point-and-shoot camera.
@SpencerStanley3 жыл бұрын
I was keeping my A7Riii for photos and waiting to buy the FX6 but I might just sell my A7Riii and buy an A7Siii to go along with it...
@guiruch3 жыл бұрын
Bon bah voila, je n’achète plus d’Alpha One 😂
@AdamHansen953 жыл бұрын
I think the issue that the Fuji might’ve suffered from was lens sharpness. I would love to see this test done with the same lens, but cropped on the Fuji to get the same fov because the Fuji might actually produce a sharper image if paired with a sharper lens
@ruzzim3 жыл бұрын
I always knew that Megapixels weren't has significant as is said, but this one between 12 and 102 blew my mind.
@granitfog3 жыл бұрын
By far, the main advantage of greater mp and medium format is crop-ability and making very large enlargements. Small prints, computer / phone screens are unable to put those advantages to use because of the limited information present on those formats. Regarding the enlargements: there is something fishy there: a 12 PM sensor is 3000 x 4000 pixels. If we reduce the pixel to just 1 dot, at 200 dpi (instead of the 300 for finer art) that becomes a print 15 in x 20 in, beyond which resolutions falls. The choice of image for the large print negated the advantages of greater MP and image: The large print should have been the fern where edges are important. Instead the large print had dark rocks and flowing water, both of which hide deteriorated resolution.
@AmaraARW3 жыл бұрын
And this is why I'll probably never switch from an APSC lol
@visualtrigger24693 жыл бұрын
I actually use GFX50s as my primary stills. I used an A7S3 earlier this year for a few weeks and was absolutely blown away. When I mounted the Leica R glass it was just as pretty as the Phase One back I used on my Contax 645's. What a great comparison!
@ReepaMedia3 жыл бұрын
jeeze, canva is taking over, every video in the last week have been sponsored by them but i do love them so much, i recently started an entire rebrand using them
@dale.wakefield3 жыл бұрын
So many people I love all together and being annoyed. Amazing.
@fepatton Жыл бұрын
The lens makes a lot more difference than the megapixels, I think, all other things being equal. I get tack sharp photos out of my Nikon D700 at 12MP. You have to pixel-peep to see that it’s not higher res. What you _do_ get out of a newer camera is features. How much is eye-tracking or live histograms and exposure preview in the viewfinder worth if it makes photography more enjoyable or productive?
@shadowgolem91583 жыл бұрын
Processing for 12 mp is not the same as processing for 104 mp. You are also printing DPI which does not = mp. So, as usual, killer lens and the right printer tweaked for your sensor resolution and color set is no small difference. But, yeah, still shooting a D700 and still no issues with any size prints. Going to wear out the shutter before I feel the need to switch out. Color depth is a thing too. If your printer has the color range ( multiple cartridges for each color and all that jazz ) the bigger, newer sensors have some amazing color depth.
@saarin0tsorry3 жыл бұрын
I must say I was expecting some misses, but watching all of them was great! I have a Nikon D850 (45MP) and a Z6 (24MP) and my last few shots with the Z6 have really made me love 24MP again! I am not dropping my D850, but seriously must think about the final usage of the images. Great video!
@clkinder13 жыл бұрын
So I'm coming at this from a more technical, electrical engineering position. That being said, the reason that the lower resolution photo is sharper is due to the larger pixel size. A very common misconception (one I even once fretted so much about) is that more pixels automatically means a better photo, but a good analogy to this is the comparison between a "real" camera (DSLR or Mirrorless camera) and, say, a webcam. They both might shoot in 4k, but because the camera can pull in more light per pixel per frame, you will automatically get sharper images. Our printers can only print so many DPI (Dots Per Inch) and our monitors can only display so many DPI. Eventually, everything just becomes blurred due to scaling and cropping. If you scaled the 102MP sensor up in physical size, you would see a definite difference, and the photo would be sharper.
@encapsulated_nomad13593 жыл бұрын
I got 4 of 5 that waterfall big print was hard mainly cuz of the giant glare on the print. It was actually quite easy to tell the difference. I took a print class where we analyze how prints look based on different looks of matte and glossy plus what kind of paper it’s printed on. Plus one of my professors shoots with Fuji BECAUSE it has a more “matted” look to its photos similar to film.
@zatzuphotography6123 жыл бұрын
Wow CRAZY Only got the first round correct on the computer, I think when you edited it you made it brighter which actually covered up the fact that it was less. That was my thought until the next round I realised it really is CRAZY THEY LOOK THE SAME!! Love your Work Chris!
@83Goodyear2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man… I’ve been going round in circles about upgrading my 5DMK III to either the R5 or R6. The R6 is right on the money for me but the megapixel count was stressing me out. The R5 sounds delicious but it’s a chunk more cash.