Kawasaki ZX10R vs Suzuki GSXR 1000 Dyno Shootout

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Kawasaki ZX10R vs Suzuki GSXR 1000 Dyno Shootout - Moore Mafia

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Moore Mafia headquarters was lucky enough to get a Kawasaki ZX10 and a Suzuki GSXR1000 booked for the dyno on the same day. So you know we had to see which motorcycle made the most horsepower and torque before and after an ECU Flash.
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@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 2 жыл бұрын

Magic Mike got that fuel curve on point 💪💯🔥

@x1boomer 2 жыл бұрын

i think its good you point out details plus you add what you know can be done with aftermarket support. cant wait for more 2022 busa testing.

@cmorlok 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!!! I enjoy seeing the computer analysis just as much as the pulls.

@chrizver 2 жыл бұрын

Showing how specific bolt on parts influence power curves is very helpful in deciding which parts to buy. I also love the race videos with footage in the pits showing all the extra tools, parts, and knowledge it takes to win, but those are more entertainment only.

@MRR-qv3bw 2 жыл бұрын

@Chris I like the racing vid too🔥

@chrizver 2 жыл бұрын

@M1000 RR is there even 1 subscriber that can afford Melania, let alone engine replacements and staff tuning?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

@MRR-qv3bw 2 жыл бұрын

@Chris I can't imagine how much it cost to literally make a single pass on that bike. I'm positive the sky is the limit when it comes to budget running these world class bikes!

@yungtaeskii8258 2 жыл бұрын

@@MRR-qv3bw m

@StayFreshAF 2 жыл бұрын

I love seeing all the facts and information being explained!!! Keep it up 👍🏾 thank you!!!

@RedMoonRising24 2 жыл бұрын

I loved the shootout this was awesome 👏 both amazing bikes for sure. Great content as always. - Amy

@jonasrueda4195 2 жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with either one of them. Love the videos you do.

@TeamMooreMafia 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@MONEYMITCHSHOWTV 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely cant both are a beastly machines

@troylambert5140 2 жыл бұрын

Great video man the GSXR has always been known for its mid-range advantage, and the Kawasaki for the most part always has top end horsepower advantage from the factory it has been this way since the early 1980s

@carlmayer691 2 жыл бұрын

Ninja could make more with a 'longer' system....that M4 along with that CAT box just kills HP.....however as is sounds 20X better than the GSXR..big bore .Ninjas always have this very distinctive deep roar..especially the ZX10 ! The Ninja will make more everywhere w/ a better exhaust system ..heck that M4 slip could be a Chinese knock-off...they are everywhere.

@troylambert5140 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlmayer691 exactly

@SinisaStjepanovic 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlmayer691 more grunt in gsxr. Have ninja would take gsxr anyday

@alli1thebest 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlmayer691 ninja is much fat, gsx r is light and nimble

@HITMAN-xu1nn 2 жыл бұрын

These videos are absolutely the best!!! So informative!

@MonsterTVchannel Жыл бұрын

Awesome 👌 I don't even skip the ads I like this channel so much I watch the whole thing twice, ads n all 🤓❤️

@ericyost7488 2 жыл бұрын

Love all the fine tuning info. Thanks

@screennamenottaken2 2 жыл бұрын

The ECU for my 2021 GSXR1000R is en route to your shop as of typing this. Just received my Brock’s Alien Head 2 exhaust. Can’t wait to have it all installed 😀

@cristanhince5402 2 жыл бұрын

This was one of the best Dyno videos in a long time, awesome work Mooremafia family

@rmahi17 2 жыл бұрын

Chris great comparison between the two Manufacturers. Liter bikes make crazy horsepower even stock. Need to do a R1 next to a BMW 1000rr.

@stevekirk6399 2 жыл бұрын

really well explained. I try to tell people in forums when you replace the exhaust the bike needs to be remapped because it will be running lean for the cat and euro5, but some don't get it. photos of dyno runs, fuel and air is just easier.

@TeamMooreMafia 2 жыл бұрын

💪

@moneymitch585 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Chris and Mike bike feels so much stronger ! 💪 definitely gonna come back for a stage 2

@MONEYMITCHSHOWTV 2 жыл бұрын

You gonna have to change that MONEYMITCH , or lets race ????

@moneymitch585 2 жыл бұрын

@@MONEYMITCHSHOWTV lol wyaa?

@MONEYMITCHSHOWTV 2 жыл бұрын

Rite rite sir , wassup

@hemanR-one 2 жыл бұрын

i had M4 on my 05 R1, unreal exhaust sound. would highly recommend M4 .

@RadDadisRad 2 жыл бұрын

Love this channel

@MrSmurfnanne 2 жыл бұрын

Now I see why I can't keep from mouse-trapping my 2021 GSXR1000R when I reach WOT in low gear. Second gear is not quite as violent, it only rises fast when on cam around 9k rpm. Have to short shift or let off a little there, too. Only 500 miles on mine. Oh, and the Brock's CT Meg and Moore Mafia flash. Thanks for the video, Chris!

@ryannafe9252 Жыл бұрын

I’d take the Suzuki just because I’m a Suzuki loyalist, both my first and current second motorcycle are/were Suzuki. A 2021 DR-Z400SM and a 2020 Katana. The DR-Z400SM is great fun to rip around on, and the Katana is simply a monster of a street bike. Bigtime power from 3,500 up to the 10,000 peak power spot.

@304Hollywood 2 жыл бұрын

Love this dudes videos

@erickouniakis5722 2 жыл бұрын

Thank's Excellent video guys!!!

@biodome2807 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!!

@JonHunter80 2 жыл бұрын

nicely done, say if you had to pick one bike which one would it be and why? I'm considering a GSXR

@quincyfry6569 2 жыл бұрын

That 'busa update was a pleasant surprise!

@MRR-qv3bw 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking that gsxr with that beautiful Brocks CT Mega. is going to give the ZX10 a run for its money! The zx10's have always had pretty good stock headers that makes a slip on upgrade hard to pass up on over a full system! Love both bikes IMO and both have awesome potential to go Stupid Fast!

@kenyoncomp4064 3 ай бұрын

Great comparison!!

@Wolverine249 2 жыл бұрын

I love the details

@jeremybly 2 жыл бұрын

The zx has amazing stock header's. I'm thinking Ninja for hp and gsxr for tq.

@2wheelsonly614 2 жыл бұрын

Not just the headers....the engine is more powerful just like the gsxr has the best mid range cuz the VVT

@craig_sez8534 2 жыл бұрын

Brocks did something like this and suzuki made better power earlier on so it was quicker than the 10 but the 10 made better top end..

@2wheelsonly614 2 жыл бұрын

@@craig_sez8534 gsxr is definitely quicker..but once the kawi hits its power band its over..

@droceretik 2 жыл бұрын

@@2wheelsonly614 What situations can you use the Kawasaki's power?

@connor1982 2 жыл бұрын

@@droceretik idk why is it a championship winning bike for a few years now

@ecc5119 2 жыл бұрын

I believe your showing dyno inertia between the bikes . That would imo indicate rotational weights of the crank / rods if there wasn’t tire slip on the pulls. Given the presented info , I’ll take the Kawa and a couple of sprocket teeth. Great video👍 The dimpled throats should help keep the fuel in suspension and aid in chamber swirl. How did your guy determine height on the stacks?

@mitzamitza5374 2 жыл бұрын

Much better sound wiyh M4😬👌👌 hope they will make an full one for the new busa

@aguyfromparalleluniverse 2 жыл бұрын

i love this channel

@j.w.presents9552 2 жыл бұрын

GSXR for digs. ZX for roll ons. Thanks Chris! Would love to see the ZX14R in comparison on the dyno aswell. 😃

@JesusIsLord7773 Жыл бұрын

sorry im new. what is digs and roll ons? thanks

@j.w.presents9552 Жыл бұрын

@@JesusIsLord7773 A dig race is simply starting at 0mph. A roll-on race is anything while already moving. The most popular races from a roll on is say from 40mph, or 60mph. Both cars line up at set speed and hit it on go. Roll racing is more so to get rid of the variables to see what both cars are capable of without driver error.

@angelcelis9090 Жыл бұрын

@@j.w.presents9552 gsxr still takes zx10s on rolls.

@michealortiz3350 Жыл бұрын

@@angelcelis9090 nahh zx10r always been the best.

@angelcelis9090 Жыл бұрын

@@michealortiz3350 not according to Dave Moore.

@theeverydayworker2237 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I like the specs and layout maps

@hphillips7425 2 жыл бұрын

Good video. I would love to have a tuned mt-10

@Jmeez69 2 жыл бұрын

I loveee the look of the 100th anniversary Gsxr's!

@fishnmaster421 2 жыл бұрын

Does chasing the header make much difference?? The stock gixxer header looks bad ass anyway

@buckem85mr 2 жыл бұрын

Big big fan Moore mafia FTW

@chriswade3986 2 жыл бұрын

Do you do the break in before you start riding the bike like you would after the suggested break in? Or do you just rip it apart, flash it , change the exhaust and race it ? I’m not talking about a track/drag bike .

@lozadazx14 2 жыл бұрын

Both machines are good and really powerfuls mafia 🔥🔥💪💪🙋‍♂️🤝

@755hp 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 Kawasaki ZX10R and sent my ECU in for a flash tune by Moore Mafia! I’m rooting for the ZX10R to win this Hp battle.

@sophonchan4402 2 жыл бұрын

Let’s get an Aprilia on there Chris and Mike ! 💪🏼😅

@Rjames1989 2 жыл бұрын

You should get magic mike to stand on the other side of the bike just Incase a chain flys off just to be on the safe side the zx10 sounds better 🤙🏻

@cokeslam 2 жыл бұрын

Come on, Chris. If you wanna speak inside the dyno room, might as well put a subtitle for us man. Just kidding brother. God bless you!

@theman200831 2 жыл бұрын

Do they make velocity stacks for 2012 Yamaha R1? Not seeing it on their website.

@topshotta9429 2 жыл бұрын

Im a brocks type of guy,but the kawasaki sounds pretty good 👍

@muhammadsteinberg 2 жыл бұрын

The information I was able to dig up on stock euro tuned vs stock American tune is based on the fuel. From what found it appears euro gas is different so the bikes are tuned differently from the factory. The bikes aren't any better just tuned differently.

@SquidOnGixxer 2 жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell me which litre class produces most power in stock form regardless of any year,and also which litre class produces most with a fullsystem and an airfilter?

@natiuspretorius9360 2 жыл бұрын

The Suzuki just love the Suzuki's but i won't throw away the zx10 they are bad ass it's always a battle here in South Africa Suzuki vs Kawasaki and noth of the bike's amazing your channel have help me learn so much more from motorcycle's and where i want go with my old 2009 suzuki gsx 650 F maybe one day i will have enough money for a gsx 1000 R 🤣

@MarkMiller-nl6ud 2 жыл бұрын

Just asking couldn't dyno numbers be a little better with rider on it for traction?

@steelcitycaprice.899 2 жыл бұрын

They both rock!!! 👍🏼🎶🎶

@cali8221 Жыл бұрын

What's the difference in getting them flashed and a power commander

@Motolympics 2 жыл бұрын

I love the 100th anniversary paint

@vincentgaines1268 2 жыл бұрын

love the statistics

@mike216ism 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to setup a time to bring my 18 gsxr 1000R in for the full suite of goodness. Exhaust, flash and servo device for the exhaust replacement. I'm in Ohio. Hopefully we can make it happen. Take care MM

@leadsled8961 2 жыл бұрын

Do you up the fuel pressure or do you run stock numbers ?

@dute007 7 ай бұрын

How many inches lowered does this gixxer have on front and back?

@fl2696 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with the comment on the restriction put on motorcycles, cars today keep getting faster and more HP, but they’re still restricting sport bike

@box1u Жыл бұрын

I'm curious if the street bikes have the "same restrictions" in Canada?

@timbourque5095 2 жыл бұрын

That's America sized up in a ECU flash 😁👍 good luck you need it ..

@adrianbrown3894 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like the dynos video

@claudebaron9525 2 жыл бұрын

In 2012 had a full titanium Akrapovic on my ZX-14R the price for the pipe was 3,200$ Canadian, sure it’s the best for performance, the lightest of course, the sounds the looks, everything but also the price because it’s not to many peoples with the will to throw that much just for an exhaust !!!

@wallycunningham5090 Жыл бұрын

Never knew getting to Mexico to ride from Greenville SC was so easy!

@MarkThe_Shark 2 жыл бұрын

You should race Egr’s busa with your zx14r and 2021 busa

@residentialremodelers7413 2 ай бұрын

Seems like their are a ton more gsxr bikes on the road especially here in Cincinnati. I have a zx6r I want to get a liter bike instead and really like the zx10r

@sujithgv7093 2 жыл бұрын

Both great machines but chose to pick gsxr1000r its h2 slayer when flashed

@yiannishayabusaofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Wooooooow Magic Amazing Fantastic Exelent Magical The Best Ever

@jeremybly 2 жыл бұрын

Fast bikes and live life!

@lewisdeclouette6342 2 жыл бұрын

Always GSXR Brock's performance

@shadowred1980 2 жыл бұрын

The bikes are still restricted over here (uk) the same as yours are. My 959 made good gains from a Woolich racing map.

@jimmyboimazarti1234 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know anywhere good for mapping/tuning in south west uk mate ?

@stayinyourlane6432 2 жыл бұрын

My 2021 Gixxer 100th Anniversary did 193hp. Thanks Chris and Magic Mike.

@silversoozookee2839 2 жыл бұрын

Well That just makes me want to upgrade 😂

@stayinyourlane6432 2 жыл бұрын

@@silversoozookee2839 might as well.

@troylambert5140 2 жыл бұрын

By far both of the best 1,000 CC sport bikes in the world in my opinion the Kawasaki or the Suzuki pick your flavor based on your riding style and preference.

@jonty4664 2 жыл бұрын

All day 👊🏻✊🏻👍🏻

@irondiet6831 2 жыл бұрын

A full system for the ZX would have been better for an accurate comparison

@neverendingmods 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen bikes on the dyno get blown up by not pulling in the clutch quick enough at redline. The dyno is still spinning up faster even though bike is at redline, which over revs the motor and grenades it. Same thing happens with cars if clutch or next year isn't selected quick enough. Gotta be on point or that new bike will have destroyed top end.

@nnlniclb 2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow I had never thought about such a thing but it makes so much sense.

@vphathom 2 жыл бұрын

i know people that had a porch's in Germany to bring in home it had to be de-tuned to bring it to the usa

@LaneSplitAnt 2 жыл бұрын

Yooo jus talked to u today, so cool

@muhammadsteinberg 2 жыл бұрын

So overall if everything was equal the zx10 edges out on the dyno. So close that it comes down to rider.

@gixxer750cc 2 жыл бұрын

12:08 Usually other countries have tiers/classes for a motorcycle license - for example 16 years old - 50cc 18 years old - 125cc 20 years old - 250cc 22 years old - 600cc 24 years old - 1000cc & up

@ryanmeloche4370 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see an R1

@jamiemichels7248 2 жыл бұрын

Don't all kawis come with ported heads where as the gsxrs don't? Couldn't that be major reason in less HP?

@Hawaii-xh3dw 2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Moore what about my ECU that i sent you, my gsxr 750 2019 any additional horsepower?

@connor1982 2 жыл бұрын

Bare minimum having the restrictions removed should increase mid range and top end significantly

@patricklawrence9784 2 жыл бұрын

Zuki.. All day, everyday!

@prelude12341 Жыл бұрын

Can you put an RSV4 on your dyno?

@jpslayermayor9293 2 жыл бұрын

I'll never understand how someone hearing a v4 or v twin and says it sounds amazing can do that in comparing to inline 4s They just sound so much more like a racing machine and just aggressive (instead of a tractor like Vs)

@nnlniclb 2 жыл бұрын

Have you really heard a Ducati LTwin engine or a Aprilia or Ducati V4 with a good exhaust in person? It sounds absolutely monstrous. Inline fours sound good to me only when it's near the rev limiter whereas a V4 or Twin sounds amazing right from starting up.

@Naptownstreetsquid 2 жыл бұрын

Go tell Lamborghini or Ferrari

@billybulet1363 2 жыл бұрын

Who is fastest gsxr1000 or zx10r?

@Patriot-fl3ch 2 жыл бұрын

We can thank California and C.A.R.B. for that. All motorcycle's come through the shipping port's in California. Plus the hp wars of the early 2000's bringing about the gentleman's agreement.

@0wninguplz 2 жыл бұрын

where are the bikes not restricted?

@Zuki14x 2 жыл бұрын

Same bore & stroke just the difference of bigger cams vs big cams. Always a compromise,, add a few up top & they magically disappear from the mid

@rhanelchua9632 2 жыл бұрын

So the ninja have a bigger cam than the gsxr?.

@redline4184 2 жыл бұрын

Gsxr has vvt

@taelew 2 жыл бұрын

GSXR!!!

@kgsxr7s085 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta change ur intro to worlds quicks and fastest no bar motorcycle!!

@jimkim23 2 жыл бұрын

They come just as restricted here i Norway, i believe it's the same for the rest of Europe 😪😪

@timbourque5095 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I've t asking around in case you need a butt whooping 😂👍 , do anything you on the Dino ! Four wheelers everything you can definitely fun to watch .

@emir10r Жыл бұрын

the sound and appeal of the zx10r .

@Baltimoreborn 2 жыл бұрын

That sneeze 😂😂😂

@craigwelcometochaos8462 2 жыл бұрын

Zx10 for me

@1kdelta404 2 жыл бұрын

all your shop info is on that banner at you back there

@TeamMooreMafia 2 жыл бұрын

If only everyone paid as good attention as you!

@46REAVIS 2 жыл бұрын

ZX 10

@1kdelta404 2 жыл бұрын

@@TeamMooreMafia you rock ive just seen a ton of your content and you have the best energy on here good work brother!

@Gaming.Labs_GL Ай бұрын

I liked the Kawi ZX10R, but legs couldn't reach. LOL

@haithamhawsawi9892 2 жыл бұрын

if i had to choose between two bikes. ( gsxs750 or mt-07 ) witch one i go with ?

@Up4Review 2 жыл бұрын

Depends what you're looking for.... stunt riding mt-07 easy.. but for daily, rides and knee drags.. 750!

@Up4Review 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a gsxr guy and the new mt-07 and 09 are sick.. and have a good price range.. even the 2019s are around 6k-9k depending on the dealer/seller.. which would be 3k-8k cheaper then the gixxee

@haithamhawsawi9892 2 жыл бұрын

@@Up4Review well i need a bike that power for highway .. mt97 or gaxs 750 .. look like mt07 so far

@SVSecondChance 2 жыл бұрын

I have always been a GSXR fan there is ather stuff that can be done. I had a 93 GSXR that was crazy fast we took the slowest GSXR ever made and ran midd 7's with it in the quarter mile And I road it as a daily driver. It's best was 7.42 at 179 mph it would have been much better than that if it had a way I could have ran full throttle in 1st 2end and 3rd gear I could not use full throttle till 4th gear so it would have been much faster with a set of bars and swing arm. It had a 1549cc kit and a lot more work. So putting a pip on one is cool but less see one with a kit that makes it crazy fast.