Thanks again Chris! She really rips now! Worth every penny! Anyone want to buy my PC5?
@daveyt48023 жыл бұрын
What's next John? Any more mods? I'm a 650 twin guy to.
@tonytone54623 жыл бұрын
Is it still running like it was right after the flash? I also have a 2016 ninja 650 and want to send him my ECU.
@tdichirok3 жыл бұрын
@@tonytone5462 Yup, but this is a 2017 which was a remodel. Chris has another video on the previous gen.
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST3 жыл бұрын
I'm not into the twin-cylinder sound at all, but man, that Ninja's parallel-twin SOUNDS SO GOOD! It's musical and harmonic, and not like the ripped fart V-twin sound that plagues the main street where I live, ha-ha. Congrats on the tune, mate! She sounds so nice and those burbles and pops give it character. God bless!
@jamiedean51063 жыл бұрын
You should make some videos, as this thing sounds insane on decel
@kellyalmanzar6023 Жыл бұрын
Just got my flash back from Chris about a month ago and took it out today for about a 40mi test ride. My bike is a 2017 Ninja 650 with Yoshimura exhaust and no other mods. This is my honest review. Will this be a night and day difference? No. But here are the improvements that are definitely noticeable. 1. Throttle Response: This is the first thing you will notice when you ride. The throttle just feels more free and quick to respond no jerking response that you feel with the stock tune. ( Definite and substantial difference) 2. Backfire: When I installed the Yoshi pipe with no tune I did have a bit of popping on decel. Now almost completely gone. (positive for me, asked for tune with no popping). 3. Temperature: Bike definitely runs cooler now (1-2 bars lower than before) 4. Top End: This is without a doubt the biggest difference. The bike pulls noticeably and significantly harder at high rpm (about 8K) and just keeps pulling unlike before. ( for me this was the biggest difference and the dyno chart tells the same story). Low rpm and midrange difference are marginal at best other than the better throttle response. Would I do it again at $300 all in? Probably not. Would I do at $200 all in? Probably yes. Chris was great to deal with, fast service and responsiveness. Hope this helps. Update: Done about 300 miles on this flash now, and gotta say it's great. It just makes the bike more enjoyable in every way. The only downside I would say is that there is a significant drop in fuel economy, about 10-15% in my case. Some of it is the tune and some of it is probably me because i' ve been riding it harder because it feels better now. Not a deal breaker for me but if you're using this particular bike for commuting it's worth thinking about.
@GMdieselman7 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your in-depth analysis of this flash. It gives me an idea of how good this flash is. What MPG’s are you getting with this flash?
@Mike-ow5tz3 ай бұрын
I'm going to tack onto this review, since I just got the ECU on my brand new 2024 Ninja 650 ABS flashed and I couldn't be happier! Only mods I have done on the bike are the full Yoshi Alpha exhaust and K&N Air filter / Oil Filter. After plugging in the ECU the first thing I noticed was how much more responsive the throttle was, shifting also seems smoother and there isn't nearly as much jerking when accelerating or stopping (as mentioned above). Overall I think it's the best investment I've made so far for the bike, I'd pay the $300 just for how much more enjoyable & responsive the bike is to ride, even without the performance upgrades because I'm not concerned with increasing my top speed. Highly recommend a flash from Moore Mafia, I'll be back in the future when I purchase more motorcycles!!!!
@scottieray3 жыл бұрын
The gains may seems small but proper fueling always makes for a 'faster' motorcycle. It's hard to explain, but it just makes a very noticeable difference on the street.
@TeamMooreMafia3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@Baleur3 жыл бұрын
Yet another reason why this is a perfect starter bike. You learn on it taking it slow and responsibly, you grow with it for a year or two as you learn every intricate detail of just this particular bikes handling, and then when you're ready, no need to buy a new bike, you just flash the ECU to unleash it. Wow. What a brilliant piece of engineering.
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын
Unleash all 1.5 extra horsepower you mean? Yeah or just lose like 15 pounds of your own bodyweight. Will probably have the same effect.
@rocknraptor3195 Жыл бұрын
@@HypeRapEnjoyer you obviously didn't pay attention or have never ridden a fuel injected bike!🤦
@HypeRapEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@rocknraptor3195 I've had both carbed and EFI bikes bruh 🤣🤣
@13Recon19D4 ай бұрын
Agree. It’s also very torquey for a starter bike and teaches you some throttle control.
@tysoncott74023 жыл бұрын
Thats cool see’ing these ninja 650’s on the dyno. My wife rode a 2003 ninja 636 from 04-08 & traded it in on a new 08 gsxr 750 & rode the gsxr until 2017 & we sold it & she purchased a new 17 ninja 650. The ninja is far more comfortable for the riding we do & is over all a kick a$$ bike!
@leonvanheerden80543 жыл бұрын
The pops on that deceleration sounds so good
@Cam-jl2if Жыл бұрын
is the popping in any way bad for the bike?
@waiatm Жыл бұрын
@@Cam-jl2if nah
@petes3023 Жыл бұрын
Just got a 2023 ninja 650 tuned for full system delkevic exhaust and K&n filter! the difference is unreal it’s a totally different bike now, great job Moore mafia!
@MXMafia13 Жыл бұрын
Whats different? I also have a 23 with the delkevic exhaust.
@AP-wu1rv2 жыл бұрын
Jesus those pops 👍🏽 I want my 650 to sound like that I’m getting a 2020 Ninja 650 soon and I’ll definitely get a tune and everything
@Two_Wheel_Therapy2 жыл бұрын
It's a great bike but my exhaust is stoll currently and the sound is so low it has gotten me ran off the road before (I was new to riding then). Can't wait to change it, I can't decide between a Two Brothers or Akrapovic full system or just a slip on.
@gixxermanlt3 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming man. I really enjoy every single one.
@TeamMooreMafia3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@2017Toy3 жыл бұрын
The Kawasaki Ninja 650 is such a good looking motorcycle but it needs about 30 more horsepower
@hopey18092 жыл бұрын
yep! it lacks around 15 - 30 hp
@NoDayz0ff3 жыл бұрын
awesome video, would've loved to see a performance difference between stock, adding the power commander, then the ecu tune
@mattsloop27363 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the 650. Not to crazy about all the popping. It's cool but I think it would get old idk. Definitely gonna notice a difference when he rides it tho
@billharbertserrano86023 жыл бұрын
Just sent my ECU! Can’t wait to see the results!!!! Keep it up man!
@TeamMooreMafia3 жыл бұрын
💪👍
@dextermusiyandaka35343 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Quick update please? Loving the tune?
@RussSchampers2 жыл бұрын
Was yours stock before? Curious what the experience is?
@colbyd.50442 жыл бұрын
I know this was a year ago but how much better did your 650 run after getting the flash? ?
@Baleur3 жыл бұрын
7:15 why is this non-yoshimura titled video by far the best yoshimura demonstration on youtube? Holy cow, they should use this in their promotional material. It seems to do way more pops and flameouts than un-tuned, is that correct? Loving it.
@lNickHD2 жыл бұрын
Literally just sent my 2020 650's ECU out to Moore Mafia this weekend. Similar mods to this bike and super excited to get it back and installed!
@stanggang768 Жыл бұрын
How’s it go?
@lNickHD Жыл бұрын
@@stanggang768 Night and day difference. It felt smoother and as if it had more power all throughout the RPMs. I recently sold the 650 and picked up a Z900. I will absolutely be sending my ecu to Moore Mafia for a flash on it.
@TheDargg Жыл бұрын
Did you go with the pops and bangs ?
@stanggang768 Жыл бұрын
@@lNickHD z900 are sweet I kinda want a Zx6r 😅
@lNickHD Жыл бұрын
@@TheDargg When my 650 was flashed it no longer did the decel pop which I really missed. My Z900 has some very sweet popping around 3k decel and it sounds amazing so I plan to keep it when it's flashed.
@jonathanhager39303 жыл бұрын
That should be illegal for them to be able to sell you a "perfect" tune and it not be even close to good. If that was me I would demand my $$$ back.
@alexventrov68263 жыл бұрын
Honestly like what the hell are Dynojet doing? Ridiculous.
@jmcaes321123 жыл бұрын
It’s prob from the new exhaust
@raynic11733 жыл бұрын
@@jmcaes32112 it suppose to take that into account.
@Micah_23152 күн бұрын
Those pops sounds so daaaarrrnnnn gooodddd!! Just got a 2008 ninja 650r with a yoshimura.. Really hadda get this done!
@juanhuttoe45172 жыл бұрын
I think for every day these bikes rock. Very underestimated.
@Audxacity Жыл бұрын
Pops and bangs on the ninja 650 doesn't apply anymore? found this and wanted it on my 23'
@alifeexperiment24793 жыл бұрын
*Baseline pull coming up to you guys in 3. 2. 1. Ad* your balls are under attack!! Me: thanks KZfaq
@jaesoulvybezАй бұрын
This video right here just might’ve sold me on getting a 650
@mattm18413 жыл бұрын
My friend just got the 06 650 and I feel like he would love these gains. Are the 06's reflashable or just power commander band aided
@24james3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Chris!👌🏾💯🏍 Simply put, by removing all of the BS EPA restrictions, you are doing the Lords work🙏🏽
@ravenwood11353 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris. Congratulations on the two new records.
@RickyJr463 жыл бұрын
Flat tracker Bryan Smith used to kick ass on the Miles with his Ninja 650-powered bike. I loved watching that thing!
@justincastillo6765 Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if it’s all countries but doesn’t the 650 have a screw that stops the throttle from opening up all the way? If so wondering if it was removed for the tune.
@BlackAxeDayTrading11 ай бұрын
US bikes do not have the screw
@elibeinke27093 жыл бұрын
How much does it cost to get your ecu flashed with the exhaust popping?
@stephen4thewin174 Жыл бұрын
Like $365, $265 without the pops, and add on another $17 for shipping
@jjenningsoh10 ай бұрын
Would this work with a 2023 z650rs??
@Supratt0013 жыл бұрын
You know how to wake the bikes up great Job. Chris
@AKUMARIDER3 жыл бұрын
you are definitely a teacher with a masters in the subject, motorcycle that goes through the moore treatment, motorcycle that comes out like a scalpel, just amazing
@rodrigog14933 жыл бұрын
Power commanders are nothing but a waste of money and time. Another great video Chris Moore 👍
@chicblair3 жыл бұрын
💯% agree Rod 👍
@spartanrides13543 жыл бұрын
Thats hot as hell, I love the back fire is that at all bad for the bike really long term
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
Yes it is bad. This is a terrible tune job. He knows it's half-assed. Blow-back can destroy am engine, blow pistons, fuck up your valves, blow piston rings. Sounds good till the engine seizes up.
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Ninja 650 KRT ABS and I weigh 180. Got it up to maybe a bit past 120. Problem here is that this is my daily ride so sending in the ECU for a flash tune is kinda tough. I always wondered why people bother with Power Commanders when all you need is the chip flash. Mine has a Hindle exhaust with a megaphone can and silencer. It has the best sound I've ever heard. Without the suppressor it is a match for any straight pipe Harley,I kid you not. With the suppressor it still sounds way more badass than your Yoshi. Do you have a flash for a Hindle exhaust?
@waiatm Жыл бұрын
Did you ever get an answer on this I was considering the hindle
@ravindecavalier29122 жыл бұрын
Have you guys done anything to the seats on your 650s cuz I sat on one once n it was like sitting on a wedge lmfaoo
@mattisdecat78763 жыл бұрын
Please tune a Mt07 in the future, would like to see the results 👍
@504BigStud3 жыл бұрын
Best sounding bike!!!
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
2Wheeldynoworks MT-07: 72.52 hp 51.35 ft-lb Correction Factor: STD Full Yoshimura Db-killer removed, full ECU flash
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket - Did you block off your PAIRS system and remove your 02 sensor? I did that on mine. You should have.
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
@@Wabbit1961 I personally do not own the MT-07, but I've done similar to other bikes. Depends on what you're after. Sometimes it takes a lot of disassembly and messing around to access the PAIR system, engine valve cover area, tubing and wiring and remove all that stuff. It's got a bit of weight to it, but honestly unless you're competing at a high level in some racing club, it probably doesn't matter that much. If you have a servo operating an exhaust valve, those have some bulk to them. Similar to a lead-acid battery, it's easy to remove some bulk in some cases. PAIR systems are designed to do nothing except put O2 into the exhaust between the engine ports and the cat. That's all they are there for. If you remove the cat, the PAIR literally serves zero purpose.
@limitsedgemachineworks1433 Жыл бұрын
Looks great, I just take the throttle plates off the shafts to delete the second throttle and open up even more airflow.
@devinsass14253 жыл бұрын
You might have convinced me to keep my 650 instead of getting something bigger.
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын
If you want more power, it's probably best to buy something bigger. The cost per HP of tuning is a lot more than the cost of trading bikes.
@mikewolf394 Жыл бұрын
@@HypeRapEnjoyer insurance will smack though
@chasetimmer24302 жыл бұрын
That is the best sounding kawi 650 on youtube
@gsbarz52135 ай бұрын
Still doing the ecu flash i have a 24 ninja 650 would love to have that tune
@everss027 ай бұрын
I found some velocity stacks from KSPP, I think the top end is killed by the soft rubber ones that flex and close up at higher revs.
@xorbe22 жыл бұрын
After adding 10% more revs with more power, what you do is switch to +1/-1 sprockets (from 15/46 to 16/45) for 9% longer legs, but you'll need to trim just a little bit off the chain guard at the front sprocket for 16T clearance, and also jumper/bypass the clutch switch to avoid CEL from the sprocket change. Even without tuning, the sprocket change makes the bike better imho, it's got the torque to push the taller setup. I wish I could mail you my 2017 from CA to SC for you to work on.
@thomasdaley69932 жыл бұрын
Talk about gearing?? Living in a flat field rice growing area top speed is not No'1 acceleration is. So I went from 15-46 to 14-47, fast take offs the front lifts putting the shits up you. Drop one/two gears to overtake, in seconds hitting the rev limiter a tourer has now become a wild bike that needs a steering damper. Very versatile bike.
@xorbe22 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdaley6993 Longer legs for commuting 90 miles (lower rpms) ... not top speed, this was never a top speed machine. Lower rpms, 65 mpg.
@thomasdaley69932 жыл бұрын
@@xorbe2 Thanks for reply. This bike with my gearing made for a fast short circuit bike, but, ruined it's original nature. Now back to 15-46 and have gear positio back and no alarms. Excelent bike.
@xorbe22 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdaley6993 you can jumper the clutch switch to avoid false CEL
@thomasdaley69932 жыл бұрын
@@xorbe2 Correct about clearing the alarm. But the gear indication still shows as - - - - original sprokets put back, disconnected the battery for 20-25 seconds and powered back up. Gear indication display back to normal.
@syedsyclone68273 жыл бұрын
I just love the new intro so much that I'd always play it again. hahaha
@kylem78842 жыл бұрын
Do you have a good mail in tune for a 2022 650 nonka with a black widow full cat delete exhaust and air filter?
@RichieD4053 жыл бұрын
love the vids man. keep them coming.
@maxx_life6 ай бұрын
I wish we could see a dynamic chart like this for a 650 that is stock, I wonder what the difference would be
@RichieD4053 жыл бұрын
funny thing is I have no desire to ride this bike but its still nice to see it on the dyno
@boostedrama17803 жыл бұрын
Just sent my ECU!! Love the pops! Requested them on my letter I sent with the ECU!! Can’t wait!
@zombiedeathkill6663 жыл бұрын
did you get it back and how was the pops?
@boostedrama17803 жыл бұрын
@@zombiedeathkill666 I got it back! The pops aren’t like the video but they are a little louder. Bike is definitely faster
@zombiedeathkill6663 жыл бұрын
@@boostedrama1780 Thanks. Have you got the stock exhaust or aftermarket?
@boostedrama17803 жыл бұрын
@@zombiedeathkill666 aftermarket!
@yourmomma29952 жыл бұрын
thats a joke about wanting back firing right? would you really want your bike to be back firing and sounding like shit... like miss-tuned harleys i hear leaving the bars?
@KuntreKatering3 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to get some more money so I can bring my bike to you. I look forward to ur vids.
@hitituprohb3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely gonna call you and schedule an appointment for next time I'm in SC and bring the bike in. I've got a 2020 Ninja 650 with the full Akrapovic and I've got an air filter on the way.
@TeamMooreMafia3 жыл бұрын
Anytime!
@ryanbarrimore97033 жыл бұрын
have you done anything like a suzuki sv650s or a honda nc700? would like to see lower powered bikes get tuned to see how they react. keep up the good work
@Thelonius_Magee3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see what you can do to an mt09
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
Go-to 2WheelDynoTune.com Look up your year and exhaust. Best money I ever spent. This guy doesn't do a proper tune. You need to block the PAIRS system and remove your O2 sensor. There are kits for that readily available online. I got mine back in 5 days.
@bluefox12factsbeforefeelin583 жыл бұрын
Can u do a video on ECU removal for 2018 zxninja636r? I didn't see one on your website.
@killfase013 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a 2020 Vulcan s with a 16 tooth front sprocket intake and exhaust. I'm sure the ecu should be the same, u think this same flash would work for it
@TeamMooreMafia3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@suher16162 жыл бұрын
I saw this video just now. I'm hooked. I have a 2017 ninja 650 and I live in Lyman, not far from you, about a 20 min drive. I've never even heard of this tune before but now I want it. Would you be willing to do this tune on my bike if I drop off the ECU for you instead of mailing it in?
@LoscoeLad2 жыл бұрын
what about the back firing though? would you stop that ?
@ethanb73883 жыл бұрын
thinking about sending my ecu for a er6n with the same engine i wouldnt want the popping tho.
@Sol_knows2 жыл бұрын
Those pops sound so good 🤤
@djoliva14382 жыл бұрын
U deserve more subscriber bro...thanks for the vlogs...
@B1SQ1T Жыл бұрын
Do you tune the pops and bangs in intentionally or is it just a byproduct of the increased performance? All ik is backfiring comes mostly from antilag or a specialized pop tune for cars but idk how it is on bikes
@StormAutoAdventures Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm only about 100 miles away from you guys in Georgia. That would be a nice ride to your shop to have my bike modified sometime this summer. I'll subscribe after this comment, and I'll be in touch. -Chris
@JT-sr3cv7 ай бұрын
How can I get ahold of you to flash my 650? It’s a 2024, hopefully it doesn’t change much
@RazRemiiX3 жыл бұрын
Any chance on seeing a CBR650F tuned?
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
Go-to 2WheelDynoWorks.com and look up your bike and your exhaust system. Email is best. Talk to Nils. Read my most recent comment, if he didn't delete it. My flash cost $235. It came back fast. If you're not mechanically inclined take it to a shop because you'll need to remove the PAIRS system and install the block off plates and air box plug. Also remove your O2 sensors. This guy's tune is crap. There shouldn't be anywhere NEAR that amount of back pop. But that's because the tune didn't include the removal of the items above. Good luck. Let me know what you did. Nice bike!
@raynic11733 жыл бұрын
@@Wabbit1961 yo, dick weed, he said he can tune it with or without the decel pop and weeze, ffs.
@antoniobaak14610 ай бұрын
mine does 70hp and 63 torque after dyno tune i did somewhere :)
@NoDayz0ff3 жыл бұрын
So basically the power commander that I was told is needed for tuning, is not needed and a waste of money????
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they suck. ECU tune is almost half what the new power commanders go for.
@rocknraptor3195 Жыл бұрын
ECU flash is better.
@b-kingmotovlog28183 жыл бұрын
Good times baby. Will be bringing the 08 bking to you. Fort mill sc
@ashleyrobison2843 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got a 2017 in a trade an I made a shorty m1 muffler an k&n filter an it’s a ok bike for around town has good low end torque an I know this one will only do 133 mph an that is on flat ground no wind if there is a factor in there we’ll that speed won’t get there. I rather be on my 08 zx6r cause she is my baby so idk if power commander or even a tune would be worth the money or time ? Plus I really didn’t want it I just did to help a friend out but is a great starter bike for sure .
@atomcypher89423 жыл бұрын
I have a fully stock 2021 Kawasaki ninja 650 (non-abs). I’ve taken it to 132mph multiple times for 3-4 sec holds at a time (due to redlining). Does a flash in this bike boost it by 13mph all around (meaning all the same results)?
@Mr.Battle72 жыл бұрын
Find out 👀
@td37482 жыл бұрын
How'd you get it to 132? Have the abs version and 122 was all I got
@atomcypher89422 жыл бұрын
@@td3748 how much do you weigh??? Also, you’ll need no uphills. Flat surface, downhill I hit 134mph. Heaven & Earth as my witness. I need this same bike to get to 160mph or I get a something different. 2nd season.
@td37482 жыл бұрын
@@atomcypher8942 220. I saw a vid said it was a 21 650 and he was hitting 180...trying to find more info, slightly disappointed my car goes faster than my bike
@atomcypher89422 жыл бұрын
@@td3748 no way… I would have to see that myself. If that’s possible, I’d keep this bike.
@simcruz63113 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 ninja 650 with 2 brother exhaust and it’s amazing but I still wanna get her tuned
@jasonmendonca60613 жыл бұрын
Do you have a tune for the Vulcan S 650 with full exhaust?
@APEX_aDONis7 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, is ecu flash for ninja 650 the same for z650. I have a 2017 z650 with full yoshimura exhaust which I would like flashed. Thanks
@wildboy95572 жыл бұрын
Does it matter what kind of exhaust I have to get the same results or close? I ordered a mivv mk3 full system exhaust and planning on sending my ecu over
@theozman383 жыл бұрын
Braap braap braaap braaaaaaap!!!! If the owner is bragging about how it feels now he’s feeling phantoms playing with his ass.
@KuntreKatering3 жыл бұрын
Good morning Chris. How are you. I have a friend with a harley I told about you and he want to know do you dyno and tune harleys
@everss022 жыл бұрын
sent mine in, I do lots of trackdays, street is BORING
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
Bummer. Was hoping to see the torque curve.
@972CHENZO3 жыл бұрын
I have the same bike, so just take out the ecu and ship it to you? What's the turn around normally?
@kuron2522 жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 ninja 650 are you able to unlock the ECU on those what airnox and exhaust do you prefer to get the most oit of the bike
@quinones3252 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 ninja 650 with a K&N air filter. I’m planning on getting a yoshimura exhaust. Not sure if I should get a power commander or have the ecu flashed. Any suggestions?
@chris-dn2cl Жыл бұрын
Hey just sent my ECU for same bike and year but can't get the pops like here in the video 😭
@antoineaaron37542 жыл бұрын
Did I see some FLAMES??? 🔥🔥😍
@stephaniedoyle51153 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it popping pop corn Shake and bake it baby
@kierandansey64762 жыл бұрын
So by doing this I'm guessing it would no longer pass emissions test and such
@shaunketterman29852 жыл бұрын
What year is this bike? And what exhaust? Bro I have a 2015 and it doesnt sound ANYTHING like this. Mine sounds like a sowing machine.
@oscarg314773 жыл бұрын
Can you flash the ecu for a 2020 ninja 650?
@Wabbit19613 жыл бұрын
Yes. The ECU is just under the gas tank. See my other posts please. This guy's tune is incomplete. Used car salesman mentality. That popping is NOT a good thing. Doesn't reply to people's questions on here. That should tell you something.
@BPxGarage3 жыл бұрын
Damn!! So this is a great video. Very informative and well put together. With that said, my concern is the the minimal gains. I love that the fuel to air mixture it more true, but only a 1.5hp gain is disappointing. I have a 2020 Kawasaki Z650 and i just purchased the HP1 Full exhaust from Dominator. I'm toying with the idea of getting the bike dyno tuned with ECU flash even though the manufacture of the exhaust says its not required or really even recommended. My local shop wants $489 and that's not terrible since they are doing everything. However, it does seem high if I'm only gaining that minimal amount of power. If i was getting more like 5hp gains then I'd be happier. I'd love to see these engines push closer to 70hp. I saw another of one your videos doing a Ninja 650 that got up to 68hp and THAT is awesome. I'm new to this in a way and i do kinda understand that getting the full mixture correct and in line is SO much better for the bike. My question is... is it worth $489 at my local shop if i'm only gaining 2hp at max.
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын
Right, and if you correct the AFR from 16 to 13, how much more fuel burnt is that? Like 23% but the power gain is like 3%. Seems like most of the benefit of these mappings is disabling the O2 sensor and injector shut-off to make the bike smoother when going off the throttle. I bought my ER6 (Ninja 650) with a PCV already installed. All it did was lower my gas mileage. Took it off and sold it pretty quick.
@Jrod_4K2 жыл бұрын
@@HypeRapEnjoyer so you wouldn’t recomend getting a better ecu for the ninja 650? I dunno if I should get it tuned as is with just a yoshi exhaust or if I should get a upgraded ecu and then flash tune it
@HypeRapEnjoyer2 жыл бұрын
@@Jrod_4K not sure what you mean about upgraded ecu. Can the stock ecu be flashed? Then I might go for that. But Power Commander and that type of piggyback ecu I would not spend money on.
@sephkateno10372 жыл бұрын
Besides the full exhaust and air filter you should research modding the airbox with velocity stacks and maybe cutting a hole or two definitely will make the bike louder but you should see the power you're looking for after the tune. My ninja 400 from 43 at the wheel jumped to 50 and that's not even considered a huge gain some other guys went to 60-62 at the wheel.
@rocknraptor3195 Жыл бұрын
@@HypeRapEnjoyer stock ECU is flashed. To anyone pondering, this is well worth the money! HP is not cheap, besides a performance air filter nothing else will give you the benefits & performance for the money!! Not to mention derestricting, changing fan temps, fuel cut when decelerating (throttle closed), opening secondary throttles, fuel & timing maps. The bike will run better, faster & stronger thru all RPMs, run cooler & be a safer tune, & more HP & TQ which Chris never mentioned that. It is worth the money!
@ericcrawford2530 Жыл бұрын
Any experience on doing this tune in a 15’ 650e?
@MrSplupa3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, how does this effect fuel mileage? I know a lot of people don’t care about that when tuning but I’m just curious about how when running richer than stock how it’ll effect it
@xorbe23 жыл бұрын
Well if it runs richer then it's using more gas, so mpg goes down ...
@bassel.m29883 жыл бұрын
In Sydney Australia here. Daily riding my 650 for long distances it consumes worth of $15 AUD every 4 days.
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын
I had a PCV on mine when I bought it, so I've tried every combination of maps, O2 sensor on or off, stock exhaust or TwoBros. I also logged the mileage. Worst was stock exhaust and PCV. 13.5 KM/litre. Best was PCV off and either a stock exhaust or a different one. About 17-18 KM/litre. I also weigh a bit so you should get more mileage.
@JDeezle213 жыл бұрын
I have an 05 R1 but i want one of these
@michaelj.kastner51653 жыл бұрын
Fireblade RR-R-SP ?????
@postmortemspasm3 жыл бұрын
RR-R-RRRR?
@GoodBalak Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I'm in India and would like to get an ECU flash. How do I make it possible?
@1MaximusDecimusMeridius13 жыл бұрын
What’s your vacuum pump connected to? Nice video! Thanks for sharing
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын
I can't answer for him but I think some people use them to suck the exhaust gasses past their external wide-band sensors.
@user-gt3xx6lc1o5 ай бұрын
Wish I did this on my.versys
@ADVShadow Жыл бұрын
I just saw a 13 min video for a tune that is going to give you… 1HP and take away $300 and your warranty… 😳😂
@jacoblloyd88512 жыл бұрын
Can u tune a CBR 650R? I plan on buying one real soon
@mberky8612 жыл бұрын
What's the turn around time on an ecu and can you tune a 2022
@KB-yj5xp Жыл бұрын
what could you expect from a flash with a stock exhaust?
@tomanycooks3 жыл бұрын
thats about exactly that same results i got on my z. (same bike) but we tuned my power commander
@Mrbooboo19722 жыл бұрын
That's Awesome. Lol... I was thinking of picking up a 2015 with low low mileage. He price to.
@xy48593 жыл бұрын
I got a 2020 ninja 650, and would like to get this tune. However, I live in Europe :)... I was told to get the power commander and get it tuned by a professional. I have the akra full exhaust that came on the sporty version of the bike and then added a sportsfilter. It seems like it is running somewhat lean. Could you please helpme out? Do you know if there are suitable maps to download for my set-up, etc? This would be greatly appreciated! Thanks