Bad Linear Rail - Linear Rail Maintenance - 2022 - Chris's Basement

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Chris Riley

Chris Riley

Күн бұрын

We got a bad rail. Our SKGO was acting up and we narrowed it down to a bad linear rail. We show you how to remove and repair the rail. We also touch on a little linear rail maintenance.
00:00 Introduction
01:24 Identifying the problem
03:45 Repairing the rail
14:21 Rail Maintenance
20:49 Test Print
21:34 Conclusion
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@toddzino58
@toddzino58 9 ай бұрын
So, I realize this video is a year and a half old. A beginner in the 3D hobby may be a bit confused by some of the comments here. Chris' video is spot on. There are comments here about precision of balls, every other ball should be a slightly different size, etc. This kind of stuff for home 3d printers is nonsense. For consumer grade 3D printers, the duty of the linear rail is super super light. Clean the rail, lube it (superlube or really any NLGI 1 or 2 lube. PTFE is fine also, for this level of use) and you're good to go. You can even use a light machine oil, just will have to do it more often. Nero said on his video many many times, just lube it and you will be fine. Superlube, Mobilux EP1, white lithium grease (yes, even the spray stuff) will be fine. We're not on the International Space Station trying to make a part to get us home........you're good. Really.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comment. I 100% agree with you. We don't work at NASA, plus live and learn right?
@Extrabitz
@Extrabitz 13 күн бұрын
Thanks. I keep telling myself, "keep it simple...
@Extrabitz
@Extrabitz 13 күн бұрын
Rebuilding my zeroG Merc. Thanks for simplifying the process. I over think things.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 12 күн бұрын
We all do, my friend. Thanks for watching!
@woodwaker1
@woodwaker1 2 жыл бұрын
Good information. I learned the hard way about loosing the ball bearings and how hard it is to replace them. I started buying extra sliders, they are not very expensive and are handy to have if you have a failure.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Those little bearings go everywhere! It's defiantly a good idea to keep a few extra parts in your arsenal.
@jezclark4882
@jezclark4882 2 жыл бұрын
A note on lube: Hiwin recommend lube with "no solid particles" in it - PTFE is solid particles. Graphite, copper, MOS2, and whiteners [Titanium Dioxide, Zinc Oxide] etc should all also be avoided. PTFE can also cause the balls to slide, rather than roll, which may actually increase wear. They also say that grease should be Lithium Soap-based and NLGI2 consistency. All of that said, the Hiwin specs are for much more heavy duty machines than printers, so the effect on wear will probably be less pronounced. It should also be noted that grease consistency also affects speed if you're doing speed benchies - thinner is faster. Grease manufacturers usually recommend NLGI 00 for 3D printer rails.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Right on, great info.
@turupardo3543
@turupardo3543 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this exact information after my printer started making some noice in the Y carriage! And I had those Z lines in some of my prints, I’ve never thought that could be a lubricant problem! Time to disarm the 3d printer! Thanks a lot Chris, very informative as always
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck and watch those bearings!
@JohnOCFII
@JohnOCFII 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish I had known this (or heeded similar advice) in early 2018 when building my Railcore. I bought THIRTEEN crappy linear rails and carriages to get SIX that I needed that were "good enough." I also didn't clean off the shipping oil, but instead just lathered on some Superlube grease. Next time I get up the courage, I should replace them all... **shudder**
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Don't rush into anything. ;)
@BenEBrady
@BenEBrady 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for your very illustrative video. I have a Coreception 300 with these linear rails and now I'm much more likely to take them apart and correct some issues.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
It's a fairly easy fix and would really improve your prints. :)
@choschiba
@choschiba 2 жыл бұрын
I did that kind of maintenance when I bought my first printer (delta kit). Thank you so much for sharing the links. When I slid off the rail I noticed that some balls where missing, but I didn't know which type of balls I should buy. I will definitively do some maintenance on the rails of the printers I have once I have bought the balls.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I use any excuse to tinker with my printers. Be careful, those little bearings go everywhere!
@whatif8741
@whatif8741 2 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative on faulty linear rails and how to fix them, and how to prep/maintain linear rails. I am doing a build with some rails good to know all of this before I dive in.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful. Good luck with your projects!
@eriklindqvist9923
@eriklindqvist9923 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky I found this video! Got new rails in and 2 of them where not moving smootly. Loosening the wipers and moving around a bit solved it! Thanks a lot!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@genegreiner7766
@genegreiner7766 2 жыл бұрын
I build a RatRig with all linear rails and before assembling it, I changed out the steel bearings for ceramic bearings. It make a huge difference, and improves the low cost HIWIN clones quite a bit.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
oooo, ceramic, nice idea.
@HiIarityBribo
@HiIarityBribo Жыл бұрын
yeah thats a nice idea, notice how the bearings on the hiwin clones arent even round ornthe same size? i've seen up to 0.022mm deviation on the clones...the carrages are fine for the pr8ce, but the bearings, yuk
@enteranon3342
@enteranon3342 3 ай бұрын
Are they already broken or have they lasted for 2 years?
@genegreiner7766
@genegreiner7766 3 ай бұрын
@@enteranon3342 they are still running like new
@Robothut
@Robothut 2 жыл бұрын
I moded my Prusa Mk3 so many years ago to linear rails. I bought the cheap China ones and had to rebuild them to get them working smoothly. So, I did all things to you talk about but also took all the balls out and cleaned them. Those got things working quite smoothly. I have found over the years of using linear rails on my Prusa both my Delta printers that the light grade lube works best. You can buy online or in Craft stores needle tip applicator bottles cheap that you can then fill with your favorite light lube and put it right where you want it to go. Good job Chris on the video that should help many that want to use linear rails or maintain their rails.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's amazing what a little TLC can do!
@PatrikTheDev
@PatrikTheDev Жыл бұрын
This was seriously helpful for a beginner to linear rails, I bought some cheaper ones and was wondering about the bearing replacement. Thanks a lot!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@rouuuk
@rouuuk 2 жыл бұрын
Bro u really made me solve the layer shifting mystery I've been dealing with for years now. I own a self made 3d printer with linear ball bearing. The Y axis has always been loud and noisy and shifts layers. Thinking its the glass/motor resonance even with brand new steppers. But after i watched ur video i saw that my Y rods do indeed have grooves caused by the bad bearings. Keep it up ✌
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I could help out!
@dannylinders6157
@dannylinders6157 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I had watched Alex's video as well and it was very good except you had the part about adjusting the wipers. I was going crazy after I serviced my linear rails and also put new high quality balls in and it didn't slide smoothly. I always thought it was too tight or the balls were too big. I just readjusted the wipers and now it slides very smoothly.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's great news! I'm glad I could help
@deathcube2006
@deathcube2006 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, great video. I made maintenance on a rail and it was really tight after. I bought a replacement block, but now after learning how to untighten it, I have a spare one, tyvm. So far fron you Ive learned how to install a tft35, how to install an esp32, something that isnt very helpful since it doesnt have much options, but came free with the tft, a lot of marlin options I didnt know, how to install an ups and a auto power off module.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad the channel has been so helpful. Stay tuned, more to come!
@3DMusketeers
@3DMusketeers 2 жыл бұрын
Great video on fixing linear rails! Loved the up close shots of putting the balls back in. It definitely lost a bunch! We normally use Sewing Machine oil, seems to be fine for our use cases! Definitely a grease is better though!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely takes a steady hand, which I do not have, to get those little guys in there. :) Sewing machine oil would work just fine. I used to do leather work so I'm familiar with the stuff.
@3DMusketeers
@3DMusketeers 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Frankly the pick with a bit of magnetism may actually help, no?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
@@3DMusketeers Yes, that should do the trick.
@demowulf1486
@demowulf1486 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your great stuff you are providing in every single video !
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Many thanks. Never seen a video covering this before
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, I'm glad I could help?
@antronk
@antronk 2 жыл бұрын
Alex Kenis even recommended to replace the bearings checking the size to see if they can fit a slightly bigger bearings for tighter tolerance
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
They are all over the place as far as tolerance, so having a few different sizes on hand would be helpful for sure.
@gorgonbert
@gorgonbert 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, thanks for another great video!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope it's helpful
@Serpreme
@Serpreme 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you lube and work though ball bearings, good smooth back and forth motion.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
There is something very satisfying about that.
@jon9947
@jon9947 2 жыл бұрын
A perfect video as always!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@jrmathguy252
@jrmathguy252 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video Chris!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dondec
@dondec Жыл бұрын
That was really excellent... Thank You !!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bruceyoung1343
@bruceyoung1343 2 жыл бұрын
Chris. Thank you for another informative helpful video. I’ve been “toying” around in my head about linear rails for my printer. Now I know what to look for when making a purchase
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful. Good luck with your projects
@bruceyoung1343
@bruceyoung1343 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley Thank you oh wise my 3D print Guru 👊
@bruceyoung1343
@bruceyoung1343 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley oh one other thing. Can you tell me where you bought yours ?
@anthonygalati7568
@anthonygalati7568 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely had the same problem. Thanks for the video
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! Watch out, those little bearings go all over!
@gdfish3532
@gdfish3532 Жыл бұрын
that tip on loosening the wipers did the trick, thanks!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@KevinGroninga3D
@KevinGroninga3D 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve also used a small syringe with a narrow tip to force lube or grease into small areas. Squeeze a bit in, move the bearings, squeeze a bit more, and so on. Doing it this way can get a bit more lube in there than what you might be able to do with a toothpick or the small brush you used in the video.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, that's a great tip!
@avejst
@avejst 2 жыл бұрын
great video, good tips👍 Love that you point to Alex Kenis way. Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍🙂
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Alex is extremely knowledgeable, and really good at deep dives.
@DhruvinShah03
@DhruvinShah03 6 ай бұрын
This was a really super helpful video. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lv_woodturner3899
@lv_woodturner3899 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Very useful. I am looking at linear rails. I had wondered about removing the block for maintenance. I like to use a spray dry PTFE lube. Easy to apply and not likely to collect dust. Dave.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's a great idea!
@suivzmoi
@suivzmoi 3 күн бұрын
11:00 PSA regarding 21030. that's just a part number. the viscosity or hardness of the grease is the NLGI grade, in this case "2" or "smooth peanut butter consistency". all the superlubes with part numbers 21xxx are the same super lube NLGI-2, just in different packaging (half oz, 3oz, tube, cartridge, packet etc).
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@klschofield71
@klschofield71 2 жыл бұрын
The AISI designation of 52100 is the composition/treatment of the ball bearings. After the proper heat treatment and annealing process that particular stainless steel is very hard. Not surprised it dented your pliers. Definitely right about staying away from the chrome plated; they're like chicken eggs compared to the 52100.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin for coming with the numbers. I just remembered running into some that were absolutely crap. 😀
@jonathanraypollard
@jonathanraypollard Ай бұрын
Very informative. Well done!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you
@yathani
@yathani 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content .. Thank you
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, those little bearings go all over.
@kraemrz
@kraemrz 2 жыл бұрын
great video Chris :)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LampDoesVideogame
@LampDoesVideogame Жыл бұрын
Cheers for the video. I have 3 Tenlog printers and have suspected they've cheapened out several places. They've had a noticeable and audible, when moving the hotend back and forth, amount of friction. Never took them off to clean them and relube.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ottersdangerden
@ottersdangerden 2 жыл бұрын
Alex's videos are pretty damn good!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
They're amazing, he always does a great job at deep dives.
@legion2k988
@legion2k988 Жыл бұрын
These are on many things.. I have a laser that needs some replaced. Good info here. Thanks.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 2 жыл бұрын
If you have to take the rail bearing etc out a big magnet next to it is really helpful! Specially under a container
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea, I love magnets!
@therealmakmillion
@therealmakmillion 2 жыл бұрын
Super Lube 51004 is what I use on all of my printers, with MGN12H rails. It’s worked perfect for years, but it does need a single drop on each side of the rails twice a month.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip, thank you!
@ivandax23
@ivandax23 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for information Good Job always top!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davethetaswegian
@davethetaswegian 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, a timely video. I just purchased a cheap second hand Twotrees Sapphire Pro on eBay. I expect I will be putting this info to good use when it arrives.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful. Good luck with your project and enjoy fixing up your new printer. Half the fun is all the tinkering you get to do!
@arminth
@arminth 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the intro! Spot on! Lol!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@owencrawford8416
@owencrawford8416 2 жыл бұрын
recent subscriber. loving the videos thanks chris
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Owen, welcome!
@crazytexasgypsy
@crazytexasgypsy 2 жыл бұрын
Ball bearings for these rails are chosen per side by a technician at the factory. they actually have ball bearings of multiple sizes at the factory, all ever so slightly bigger/smaller than each other and they choose the best fit for each channel of the block based on the customers specifications. the balls on one side of a block actually may not be the same size as the balls on the other side. Replacing all of them with 3/32 balls will most likely either introduce slop or increase the preload of the block. This really isn't worth doing, and certainly won't make them better. just buy new ones, they are cheap anyways.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@justblairthompson
@justblairthompson 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to make a wild stab in the dark here... but I reckon the cheap Chinese rails are made with no such care. But as it happens, I changed the bearings over on a linear slide just a few days ago. The slides had had been used, though not a huge amount. Here are 10 random measurements: 2.38 2.38 2.38 2.39 2.38 2.38 2.38 2.38 2.38 Reading 5 from the packet of chrome steel I am getting 2.39 from all of them All measured on a cheapo electronic digital caliper. The new slides are definitely are smoother, with the slide having less slop. But bear in mind I had lost some bearings on at least one of the slides
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
@@justblairthompson thanks for all the info.
@Chrissi33004
@Chrissi33004 2 жыл бұрын
@@justblairthompson I did the same for cheap carriages and I've found multiple bbs that were significantly smaller or larger than others. Im talking like 2.35-2.40. I replaced all of the bbs with quality ones and got much better results, although I've got a higher pretension now
@justblairthompson
@justblairthompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chrissi33004 for the cost of it, definately worth doing.
@WayneWenthin
@WayneWenthin 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct in assuming the H rails are 33. I've repopulated to many of these.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, thank you! I new 33 sounded familiar.
@sticky_ricebowl
@sticky_ricebowl 2 жыл бұрын
my rails look exactly as your thumbnail.... thank you for teaching me how to tame the thing
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! I can hear it yelling at me right now. Thanks for the visual, you made my day.
@TheMarbo74
@TheMarbo74 2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not.... I actually look forward to your quick and to the point intros with the drums. Patapatapata pa tsss.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! We like it too
@sannyassi73
@sannyassi73 7 ай бұрын
One tiny tip- any time the slider is off the rail always keep a paper towel or some kind of soft surface under it so that if the bearings pop out they can't bounce away or bounce at all- they'll settle where they first drop. Also, never try to save something you drop, watch it until it settles/stops moving- too easy to miss the save and lose it even worse by slapping it across the room ;)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 7 ай бұрын
Those are great idea's, thank you!
@velvia7880
@velvia7880 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on putting an orbiter extruder and a carbon fiber square tube for the extruder rail? Think the lower weight would give a noticeable difference? On the SecKIt I mean.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Not really sure, I like you am always hesitant to add weight like that to carbon fiber parts. With the way the obitor mounts, I might not do it.
@Felix.Garcia
@Felix.Garcia 2 жыл бұрын
I like working with this cars on a big micro fiber cloth to ensure if any balls come out and move, it wont be going everywhere. Thanks for great video
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea!
@Mett-wt3xj
@Mett-wt3xj 8 ай бұрын
The more ya know! Ty.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 8 ай бұрын
🙂Thanks!
@sergiosouza8230
@sergiosouza8230 3 ай бұрын
Otimo video, obrigado
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 ай бұрын
Obrigado por assistir!
@gryzman
@gryzman 2 жыл бұрын
Best video image :-)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We worked really hard on this one. ;)
@jdcamc
@jdcamc 2 жыл бұрын
Last year I bought some linear rails for my hypercube to upgrade the X and Y axis. The carriages were sealed separately from each other and the rails where shipped in bubble wrap. I just now got to the point of wanting to install them, however, the rails now have rust on them - just sporadicly but rust nonetheless and it's just surface rust and the rails are still very solid. Are they still usable and/or is there a way to remove the rust?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, they should still be useable, I would start with WD-40 and see if that will get rid of it.
@HelgeKeck
@HelgeKeck 2 жыл бұрын
best thumbnail ever
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha, thanks Helge!
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 2 жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail :D
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we like it too.
@powersv2
@powersv2 2 жыл бұрын
Thats happening to me right meow. I assumed it was racking. I have an extra backup rail though. My voron v0.1 is doin thangs badly after 1month.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could help. Good luck with your project!
@PulsefiredGaming
@PulsefiredGaming Жыл бұрын
Hi, Im doing maintance on some linear rails on my resin printer and theres like gummy rust on it, how would you deal with that?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Like rust mixed with resin I guess? If it's not cured, rubbing alcohol should do the trick.
@pekonipilvi116
@pekonipilvi116 7 ай бұрын
chinesium rail sliders run on g500 or worse presission bearings so they can make lot of noise and be less smooth even if lubed well...getting g5 ceramic ones can make it way smoother and more quiet ...also ceramic ones are around 2.5-5 times harder than steel balls so they can also smooth bad rails too ..(especially Nitride composite bearings...similiar to tool heads used to cut hardened steel)
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@randywetzler5976
@randywetzler5976 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thanks for sharing. At 17:15 looks like some balls are missing on the side by your thumbs (look at both the left and right ends there are gaps). Are they typically not full from the factory for a reason or was this misassembled from new?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
On the lower end ones, it's very common to see them have a gap where one ball is missing. It usually doesn't cause any issues.
@gripkustoms4207
@gripkustoms4207 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have particular favorite linears chris...as in the moment im building 3d printer and like to have some good quality linear in it as im targeting to print some hot temp stuff with it. thanks for great videos as always
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Hiwin rails are really good but kind of pricy. LDO also makes a nice rail too.
@gripkustoms4207
@gripkustoms4207 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley thanks a lot!!!
@joelevi9823
@joelevi9823 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.. just noting that hiwin recommend lithuim soap grease with their rails.. ptfe actually sound logical to use cause its repal dirt..
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely worth noting. Thanks!
@rosiewitherspoon8070
@rosiewitherspoon8070 Жыл бұрын
I have a question. When you add a load to these type of bearings should you need to torque them?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
You should not, the load on these smaller rails is lower enough, it shouldn't make much of a difference.
@benjaminnevins5211
@benjaminnevins5211 2 жыл бұрын
lol I love that picture
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we worked really hard on that one. ;)
@rexxx927
@rexxx927 2 жыл бұрын
i use pen type w ptfe it is great the grease on the z pen on the x and y SUPER LUBE you can eat it!!
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@pacnsave1
@pacnsave1 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about picking rails for the type of printers, which size, cart type, is it worth it... Etc. Why does no one use mgn9 on cartesian type printers? Isn't this enough for the z and x axis?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Umm, sounds expensive. Depending on the carriage MGN 9 should work just fine.
@pacnsave1
@pacnsave1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRileyfair enough I got the answer I needed✌️. Thanks for the tip, loving ur stuff man
@iamborg3of9
@iamborg3of9 2 жыл бұрын
surprised I didn't see it in the comments. It was all the rage a while back to replace your ball bearings with Si3N4 Silicon Nitride Ceramic ball bearings.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, thanks for your comment.
@MrDanielsahne
@MrDanielsahne Жыл бұрын
Guys, when you buy those cheap linear rails: disassemble them completely, clean everything with WD-40, buy a pack of good steel balls with a decent grade, lubricate them with some oil or grease, maybe something with teflon in it.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂👍
@xdevs23
@xdevs23 3 ай бұрын
16:15 many cheap rails have a hole there but it's just in the plastic - it doesn't actually go anywhere.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 3 ай бұрын
🙂👍
@tek9058
@tek9058 Жыл бұрын
i upgraded to linear on XY axis. Y moved smoothly, i thought but gave me massive ghosting. like 6-9 repetitions. turned out it was not smooth enough when i printed witih 4000 accel, alot of Y skips i had not with wheelsl. ordered new balls (kugel winnie / germany). now they slide across the whole 40cm rail on their own, like on ice. your rails are still bad. for x axis maybe ok, not on Y where you have 3-4 of them.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I still need to go through the rest of them and check.
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 Жыл бұрын
I bought some expensive ones just the carriage block coast 123 usd they have this plastic like guide the holes the balls
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂👍
@AlyssaNguyen
@AlyssaNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
11:27 I wonder if disposable mascara wands, like the ones stores like Sephora use for testers/classes/etc., would work
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That might work. Let us know
@tzsetzse
@tzsetzse 8 ай бұрын
I have a question. At the price on Amazon for carriages, why not save the hassles of all this repair and simply purchase new carriages?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 8 ай бұрын
Fair point, I'm not sure how universal the rails are carts are, but might be worth a try and save some hassle.
@tarcisiobatista5595
@tarcisiobatista5595 Жыл бұрын
What exactly is super lub?, for someone that lives outside the US.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
It's just grease/thin oil that contains PTFE.
@victorlawver6957
@victorlawver6957 Жыл бұрын
wish I would've seen this before I installed my rail kits
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching anyway! 🙂
@victorlawver6957
@victorlawver6957 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley very useful information, waiting for the bearings to come in so I can clean and re-adjust the bearings.
@xConundrumx
@xConundrumx Жыл бұрын
Next step... grading you bearing balls. Sizes on the cheaper ones are not always identical.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@crc-error-7968
@crc-error-7968 2 жыл бұрын
I use mtb fork oil and works great, better than superlube 😁
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, good to know. Now I just need a mountain bike!
@crc-error-7968
@crc-error-7968 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley 😅
@justblairthompson
@justblairthompson 2 жыл бұрын
If you have bought the cheap rails, instead of buying 100 ball bearings. Buy 1000 chrome steel ones. The way the pricing works it is usually a marginal price difference. The cheap ones I bought had crappy ball bearings, don't know what they were made of, but all of them, rather than just adding more changed the bearing's smoothness substantially.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
I love buying in bulk! Thanks for your insight
@justblairthompson
@justblairthompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley I bought a thousand from Amazon in the week before Christmas. I got sent two packets in error, so I will have enough to last me the rest of my life. I would try and send them back, but Amazon makes this just about impossible. The last time it happened, I sent the extra item back only to be refunded.
@jackieriley9657
@jackieriley9657 2 жыл бұрын
@@justblairthompson Lol, you're swimming in bearings!
@toddzino58
@toddzino58 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to get an stl for an MGN7 railkeeper? Can't seem to find one.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I would just use one of these printed rails for the keeper. www.printables.com/en/model/115538-3d-printable-mgn-rails/files
@toddzino58
@toddzino58 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley thanks Chris!
@felix_972
@felix_972 8 ай бұрын
Have C carriages benefits compared to H carriages?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 8 ай бұрын
Basically, one cart is a little longer than the other. Gives you a little more area on the rail.
@IDCrish
@IDCrish Жыл бұрын
what if i have play on my rails?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
It depends how much, you might have some missing ball bearings.
@AlyssaNguyen
@AlyssaNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I cringed and made some noises when I saw the 3/32". I've been calling US measurements "barbarian units" ever since I saw the Cura plug-in with that name. 😂
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@MG-kt1ck
@MG-kt1ck Жыл бұрын
Allright, that thubnail got me to click this
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂👍
@Thomllama
@Thomllama 2 жыл бұрын
why am I picturing hundreds of little balls rolling around on the floor of the basement with all the nuts and bolts...... LOL
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what happened! I'm only sorry I didn't get it on camera. :)
@bsandy88
@bsandy88 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your linear bearings are missing some ball bearings. Or they are just really worn.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
👍🙂
@Trex450S
@Trex450S 2 жыл бұрын
For your pick I'd use a plastic phone tool
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alanloosley3262
@alanloosley3262 2 жыл бұрын
Linear rail form Banggood The ball bearing two mil in size not 5/32
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you getting 5/32? Because I've been getting a lot of comments. I'm pretty sure I said 3/32.
@gamerghost123
@gamerghost123 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s the h type that has 33
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JFML1974
@JFML1974 Жыл бұрын
25 , 24 ?? Balls?
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I can't even remember at this point.
@JFML1974
@JFML1974 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley I answer you, there are 24 on each side, 25 does not leave enough space and they do not move smoothly
@girrisgod
@girrisgod 2 жыл бұрын
should see if super lube would super sponser you
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, that would be sweet!
@phpnotasp
@phpnotasp Жыл бұрын
I see a mic on your shirt, but your voice still sounds far away, like the camera mic is the active one.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I had some trouble with this video. It's been resolved
@alanloosley3262
@alanloosley3262 2 жыл бұрын
Linear rail from banggood R 2mm not 5/32
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
It's really hard to tell the difference between 2mm and 3/32. Most of them are probably 2mm.
@horuswasright
@horuswasright Жыл бұрын
you can actually use the balls of v-wheels bearings, they're the same size
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@rouuuk
@rouuuk 2 жыл бұрын
3/32 " i swear the Mericans x#
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! Freedom Units!
@flaviobr1576
@flaviobr1576 Жыл бұрын
This is washed with , benzin, querosene or other petroleum solvent, not alcohol.
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
We always wash them with alcohol, it works pretty good for us.
@mrdamianopl
@mrdamianopl 2 жыл бұрын
I lube my rails with wd40 PTFE😉
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
There you go!
@barenekid9695
@barenekid9695 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap is the issue.. Chinese Bearings are world renowned as being various degrees of Junk. There is genuine Reason First world bearings are significantly more $$$. Old story.. Buy Cheap = Buy twice and if truly Dim.. Repeatedly
@ChrisRiley
@ChrisRiley 2 жыл бұрын
That's true, you get what you pay for. But, a little TLC goes a long way.
@justblairthompson
@justblairthompson 2 жыл бұрын
They are good enough for 3D printing. Just service them before you use them. If you really want to improve them, buy 1000 chrome steel bearings and replace the low quality ones in the linear slide.
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